Lakes and Waterways Commission
Regular MeetingAmesbury, MA · September 17, 2020
Minutes
City of Amesbury
Lakes and Waterways Commission
Meeting Minutes for 9-17-2020 6:45 PM
This meeting will be conducted under the ‘Executive Order Suspending Certain Provisions of the Open
Meeting Law G.L. c.30A, §20’, signed on March 12, 2020.
Location: Virtual Zoom Meeting
Attendees: Tom Murphy, Cindy Roberts, Matt Chapin, Meghan O’Neill, Peter Manor, Amesbury City
Engineer and Caitlin Thayer, Amesbury Communications Director.
Minutes Completed by: Meghan O’Neill, Secretary
I. Administrative Business
Tom murphy read the following to the committee in regards to meetings held in person:
“Pursuant to Governor Baker’s March 12, 2020 Order Suspending Certain Provisions of the
Open Meeting Law, G.L. c. 30A, §18, and the Governor’s March 15, 2020 Order imposing strict
limitations on the number of people that may gather in one place, this meeting of the Lakes &
Waterways Committee on 9/17/20 is being conducted via remote participation. No in-person
attendance of members of the public will be permitted, but every effort is being made to ensure that
the public can adequately access the proceedings as provided for in the Order.”
A. Call to Order
Completed by Tom Murphy, acting chair.
B. Provide for Minutes
Review of August minutes, completed by Alex Poole. A few additions provided by Cindy to add detail
around invasive species cleanup and professional divers at Lake Attitash. Meghan will adjust minutes
accordingly and email Caitlin to upload to the website. The minutes only need to be approved by the
L&W committee members, not City Clerk, as previously understood. Minutes approved by all.
C. Review of Past Minutes (February, August) D. Mode of future meetings
Group discussed keeping the meetings remote moving forward. All are in favor of this. Caitlin shared
that there has been no pressure from the city to move meetings to in-person. The state of emergency
is still in effect and once lifted this may change. Cindy suggested we re-visit if starting a new project.
Questions about location of in-person meetings, as previously the DPW has been used instead of city
hall, like all other committees. DPW can continue to be used and has been renovated to include new
conference space.
II. Introduction of New Member: Bernadette Lucas (Lake Gardner)
Tom shared that he connected with Bernadette and she will be joining the committee in the next few
months- date TBD. Discussion about the need for more members. Bernadette will make 5. May need to
look for others, especially someone interested in taking on the chair position, who has the appropriate
background.
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III. Engineer’s Update
A. Engineer’s Report
Peter updated the group that water is still being used from the treatment plant. The draw down will
still be occurring but later in the season due to already low levels. This is typically scheduled for
September 15th but is being pushed to November 1st due to being ½ foot lower than past years and
what is considered normal. We have had a few rainstorms that have provided very small increases in
levels. (2/10”) If we drop another 6” this will put us at a concerning level. There has been no flow
coming from NH since mid-July.
B. Recent Correspondence
IV. Current Business
A. Membership Status
i. Alex’s resignation: Alex has resigned his position and will be moving out of Amesbury.
ii. Meghan as full member: Paul or someone from city hall will be reaching out about full
member status and any action items necessary.
iii. Contact Jim Babbion: Pete asked if he contacted Jim B., a member of Conservation
Committee that may be interested in joining L&W. He has not contacted him yet but will reach out.
iv. Status of Chair: Tom is OK to hold acting chair for time being but does not want to hold that
position permanently. Tom posed the question to the group about finding people to join and take on a
leadership role. Caitlin recommended speaking to Lake Gardner and Lake Attitash Associations to
inquire about interest in L&W.
B. Review Bylaws
- The bylaws state that there should be at least 5 full members; both the harbormaster and a
member of ConComm should also be members as well. This is not the case currently. Questions about
who the harbormaster currently is and that this is a part time position currently in Amesbury. Should
also inquire about interest from any member of ConComm, although concerns about level of
involvement for people to be involved in both. Tom stated that there is a lot in the bylaws that the
group does not currently do- i.e. harbor management plan. Is this the responsibility of the
harbormaster? Does the current plan meet state requirements? If not, need to address with city. This
position currently reports into police.
- Tom discussed that L&W committee is strictly an advisory board and not an authoritative body
like ConComm. Much confusion about the origins of the current bylaws, are they appropriate? Previous
leaders were also members of Lake Associations that may have driven the content here. Cindy
expressed concerns about extent of responsibilities and the body of work and associated time
commitments.
- Should we ask the DPW and/or Mayor to help define the role of the committee? What do they
expect of our group? Tom posed the question about deciding what we want to do. Meghan asked
about how information flows to L&W currently. It comes only from members, not the general public.
Information is heard in other forums or committees and passed along. This is how the committee was
made aware of lower Powwow kayak ramp that was stopped until water quality testing completed.
- Cindy added that there is some accurate language in bylaws- the group truly should be
keeping track of, observing and recommending changes to appropriate authoritative bodies. Important
to reflect on past projects and respond to requests from external parities. Writing letters in support of
grant proposals are also part of the L&W committees’ role. Additionally, Meghan added that L&W
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should be a forum for community members to express concerns and questions. Tom added that the
role is not to “fix anything” but provide guidance and pull others in where necessary.
C. Awareness of Conservation Commission Activity
Discussion about communities’ awareness of what you should and should not do if you live on or
around water. Are people aware they should not fertilize? Should the committee work at better
communication and initiatives to educate? Currently DPW and Lake Attitash Association are working to
implement barriers to Sargent Farm run off of fertilizer adding too much phosphorus to water and
increasing invasive weed growth. Questions about engaging other groups and associations to spread
the word.
V. Website update efforts
A. Website Content
Questions about what information should be on the L&W website page. City requires agendas and
minutes for past 3 years. Only the agendas go to the clerk at this time for approval, the minutes do not
need to. Meghan and Caitlin can both post minutes on the website at this time. Caitlin shared her
screen and walked the group through the current L&W page. We need to update the meeting location
to ensure it shows “virtual” and points public to agenda with login details. The group would like to
clean up the entire left side, which has a lot of older information and verbiage confusing to a
layperson. This can be organized into a parent-child format so documents can exist under the main
heading document. Caitlin is currently working to reorganize other pages on the Amesbury website and
can help with consistency. Recommendations to list top 3 items community may utilize the committee
for and make those most prevalent on page. Additionally, want to ensure the page is mobile friendly
based on layout and organization of material. Ideally, we answer the following: who we are, what we
help with and why, and when to reach out to us. The group would like the information to be more user
friendly. Some back and forth about removing old documents. Cindy feels the waterway surveys and e-
coli data could be important to some so it should still be accessible. Meghan and Caitlin to work
together separately to adjust website based on committees’ feedback.
B. Waterways descriptions–status of posting revision
C. Bylaws—Draft Revisions
Tom offered to start making revisions to the current bylaws based on discussions during meeting. This
will be sent out to group to review prior to next meeting. Cindy is available to help.
VI. Goals/Mission Discussion Follow-up
A. Lawn Care Companies and Fertilizers & herbicides Near Water Bodies
Group briefly touched upon reaching out to local companies to ensure they are doing their due
diligence and following guidelines. TruGreen was referenced as a popular company in the area.
B. With ConComm—Homeowners’ Guidelines
Tom spoke with John Lopez from ConComm and asked about more involvement from that group. John
wants to better understand what L&W is looking for. Would it be helpful to have a liaison join L&W and
should a L&W member be a liaison as well to ensure pertinent information is shared and be in the
know about what is discussed. Concerns from group about being involved in too much and where L&W
purview begins and ends. Cindy expressed concerns about her own conflict of interest. The group is not
currently apprised of all-important information but it’s not clear how to filter the flow, as everything
goes through ConComm. Tom is going to think on this and will not get back to John Lopez just yet.
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VII. Waterbodies
A. Merrimac River
Matt updated that it is very low, there is minimal flow and weed beds on sand are visible.
i. Sewer Overflow efforts status: This occurred multiple times this summer and hoping
notification will go out within 2-hour window to notify public who may be using the river for
recreational activities.
ii. PFA Tracking (Local, State, National):
B. Powwow River
i. Water Quality Testing Issue:
C. Lake Gardner
i. Status of beach project
ii. Lake Gardner Association updates
iii. Review 2020 E. coli
D. Lake Attitash Association and Lake Status
- Cindy brought up Nickel Farm in NH, as a site that may have runoff into the back river. Rob
and Pete to look into this and travel to farm. Concerns about water quality and the need to notify NH
DHS. DASH boat (diver assisted suction harvesting), completed work in back river. It was a mess of
invasive variable leaf milfoil. There will be a fundraiser to pay for this same effort, or potentially
another treatment which is more expensive- ProcellaCor aquatic herbicide. Cindy is attending
Merrimac ConComm to discuss these efforts with them as well.
- Pete stated that Attitash has a larger voice, more community members involved and more
resources to clean-up. Ideally the concept of a clean waterway is to have the whole system cleaned or
it will keep coming back as each waterbody feeds each other. One large weed treatment for the system
would be the best solution but there are no funds for that currently. All bodies of water in Amesbury
have the same issue
E. Clarks Pond
F. Tuxbury Pond
G. Meadowbrook Pond
Meghan updated that water is very low; pond lilies are widespread. Large root like weeds are prevalent
throughout middle of pond. Very minimal water flow in deeper portions. Pete also mentioned the
beaver damn at the stateline damn that is causing almost daily trips to remove.
H. Patten’s Pond
I. Park Pond
J. Bailey Pond
VIII. Review Action Items
Tom to work on revising bylaws and sending out an initial draft for review.
Tom to look into locating harbormaster plan.
Meghan to work with Caitlin on revising the website based on feedback from group.
Pete to look into Nickel Farm and connect with Jim B. on interest in joining L&W committee.
IX. Next meeting: October 15, 2020
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Agenda
By City Clerk at 10:44 am, Sep 14, 2020
City of Amesbury
Lakes and Waterways Commission
Meeting Agenda for 9-17-2020
6:45 PM
This meeting will be conducted under the ‘Executive Order Suspending Certain Provisions of the Open
Meeting Law G.L. c.30A, §20’, signed on March 12, 2020.
Location: Virtual
Dial in: (571) 317-3122 Access Code: 603-822-749
To submit a public comment, you can email the chair ahead of time tpmpmurphy@gmail.com or dial-in
to the meeting.
I. Administrative Business
A. Call to Order
B. Provide for minutes
C. Review of past minutes (February, August)
D. Mode of future meetings
II. Introduction of new member: Bernadette Lucas (Lake Gardner),
III. Engineer’s update
A. Engineer’s report
B. Recent correspondence
IV. Current Business
A. Membership status—
i. Alex’s resignation,
ii. Meghan as full member
iii. Contact Jim Babbion?
iv. Status of Chair
B. Review Bylaws
C. Awareness of Conservation Commission Activity
V. Website update efforts
A. Website Content
B. Waterways descriptions–status of posting revision
C. By laws—Draft Revisions
VI. Goals/ mission discussion followup
A. Lawn Care Companies and fertilizers and herbicides near water bodies
B. With ConComm—Home owners’ guidelines (pointing to resources)
VII. Waterbodies
A. Merrimac River
i. Sewer Overflow efforts status
ii. PFA Tracking (Local, State, National)
B. Powow River
i. Water Quality Testing issue
C. Lake Gardner
i. Status of beach project
ii. Lake Gardner Association updates
iii. Review 2020 E. coli
D. Lake Attitash Association and lake status
E. Clarks Pond
F. Tuxbury Pond,
G. Meadowbrook Pond
H. Patten’s Pond,
I. Park Pond,
J. Bailey Pond
VIII. Review Action Items
IX. Next meeting: October 15, 2020
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