Board of Public Safety
Regular MeetingAnderson, IN · December 12, 2016
Minutes
BOARD OF PUBLIC SAFETY MINUTES
DECEMBER 12, 2016
PUBLIC HEARING
400 PM
Common Council Chambers
City of Anderson, IN
120 East Eighth Street
MEMBERS PRESENT
Mike Meld/thy, Chairperson Total claims in the amount of $255,010.50
Nicale Rector, Member
Sam Dixon, Member Mr. Mckinley said, the Fire Department claims
total $138,398.38
OTHERS PRESENT
•see attached sign in sheet Ms. Rector made a motion to accept and approve
Tim Lanane, City Attorney the claims in the amount of $138,398.38. Mr.
Wendy Anderson, Board Secretary Dixon seconded. Motion passed.
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Mcicinley said, the police department claims
Mr. Mckinley called the meeting to order at 4:00 total $116,598.62.
p.m. Mr. Dixon performed the invocation. Mr.
Mcicinley led the Pledge of Allegiance. Ms. Rector made a motion to accept and approve
the police department claims in the amount of
MINUTES $116,598.62. Mr. Dixon seconded. Motion
passed.
Mr. Mckinley asked the board members if they
had a chance to go over the minutes from the Mr. Mckinley said Emergency Management
November 28, 2016 meeting. claims total $13.50.
Ms. Rector and Mr. Dixon both said they have.
Ms. Rector made a motion to accept and approve
Ms. Rector said there is a typo, it is on the last the claims in the amount of $13.50 for
page. The paragraph starts with Mr. Fisher says Emergency Management. Mr. Dixon seconded.
he wanted to it should say reach and you have Motion passed.
react so if you will fix that error.
Ms. Rector made a motion to approve the NEW BUSINESS
minutes from the November 28th meeting. Mr.
Dixon seconded. Motion passed. Mr. Mcicinley said Anderson police department
is seeking approval to transfer funds for the
Mr. Mckinley said, ok what about the November purchase of police vehicles.
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Major Sandefur said, the police department is
Ms. Rector made a motion to approve the seeking permission to transfer funds to purchase
minutes. Mr. Dixon seconded. Motion passed. police cars in the amount of $400,000 from
salaries and insurance to the light vehicle funds
for the purchase of new police vehicles.
CLAIMS TO BE PAID
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Ms. Rector asked if these cars were from Ed Major Sandefur said, they were really reasonable
Martin. She wanted to know if they were talking and he did not think they would have a problem.
ahnut a Ford Fusion and a Chrysler 200.
Major Sandefur said they are talking about two
different transfers. MINICIPAL DEVELOPMENT
Ms. Rector said ok she was confused then.
Mr. Fisher said he was here for five properties
Major Sandefur said this is for a transfer of actually, six properties on the demolition order.
funds, not the actual purchase of the vehicles. He said he believed the board wanted him to
resend the certified mail.
Ms. Rector asked how much money they were
needing transferred. Attorney Mr. Lanane asked if they had received
any return notices.
Major Sandefur said $400,000.
Mr. Mckinley asked about the sixth property.
Ms. Rector made a motion to transfer the funds
in the amount of $400,000. Mr. Dixon seconded. Mr. Fisher said the sixth property was one that
Motion passed. the board had upheld on his previous order. The
people bought this on the tax sale. They showed
Mr. Mckinley asked if Major Sandefur had up when they were there to do the demolition
anything else he wanted to bring before the and they wanted to save it.
board
Mr. Fisher asked them about their income to see
Major Sandefur said the police department was if they have the resources to pay for the work
asking the board to approve the contract with and to bring it totally up to code. Which means
Preferred Vending for Coke, Pepsi, and snack certifying the electric, plumbing, and the heating
products. He explained there was not going to be to make sure the building is safe. He said, there
a profit sharing in this. They are going to provide will be quite a few repairs but the people are
this stuff at the lowest and best price available. willing to do it. The address is 2305 W 26 th
They are going to bring in their machines and stret.Theyarehereandarewilingtospeak.
hook them up.
Mr. Fisher said this house was upheld on the
Upon their agreement they are going to bring in demo order.
their machines and hook them up. On the day
they are installed they will be in the police Ms. Andrea Wilson came before the board and
department for one year. Either party can request introduced herself. She purchased this property
that the machines be removed. If that is the case in the tax sale, she did not know this house was
from either party it will be done in writing. up for demolition however, after talking to Mr.
Fisher he said he could go through the property
Attorney Mr. Lanane said the only issue he has with them and tell them everything that has to be
with the contract is the way it reads, is says this done. Mr. Cooper is actually going to be the one
agreement shall continue in perpetuity unless purchasing this property. They are in the process
both parties agree to terminate they will have to of getting it quit claimed over into his name.
consent We need to change that. They hired attorney Scott Norrick. They are
waiting to get the tax deed through the mail but
Attorney Mr. Lanane suggested the board table with the hack it is taking much longer to get
the contract them.
Ms. Rector made a motion to table the contract Terry has the income to fix this property. He is a
with Preferred Vending until they come back union electrician. Mr. Fisher took copies of his
with a new agreement. Mr. Dixon seconded. income. She said she would like to turn this over
Motion passe4 to him to discuss the finalities of all this.
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Ms. Rector asked Ms. Wilson when she did not miss any steps because this is her first
purchased this property on the tax sale. time ever doing this.
Ms. Wilson said in April when the tax sale took Mr. Lan ane asked Ms. Wilson if she has
place. petitioned the court for the deed.
Ms. Rector asked if it was this year. Ms. Wilson said yes she had.
Ms. Wilson said yes this year 2016. Mr. Lanane said the period for redemption is up.
Mr. Terry Cooper said there is not much to say. Ms. Rector said it hasn't if she bought it in April
They bought this at the auction. The county told of this year.
them to not go on the property until he got the
deed and so did his lawyer. He works as an Mrs. Simmons said if she bought it in April then
electrician, he was raised in this neighborhood. it was a commissioner's sale which is a shorter
He fixed up a house on 30th street. His plan is for period than a tax sale. So yes the time period
his daughter in law and two grandson's to live in would be up.
this house. He bought the garage next door, he
was trying to find out who owned this house but Mr. Mckinley said if the city thought it was in
the guy put a for sale sign in the window with no bad enough condition to tear it down so when is
contact information on it. your work going to start so it is not in that
condition any more.
Mr. Cooper went over to Ms. Wilson's house
and she was bidding on this property. This never Ms. Wilson said Todd was explaining to her that
showed a demo order. He would not have bid on he would have to pull permits tomorrow. They
it. He did not realize he needed to go to the city were hoping to wait until after the first of the
to check year or until the weather broke to start the
process. They will be able to have it done in the
Mr. Cooper is a union electrician he also had a time they are allowed.
business in Indianapolis as a general contractor.
He did work for CAP doing work on homes in Mr. Cooper said the outside of the house is not
Indianapolis. He does not know what else he can that bad. The floors are solid, it needs new doors,
say. He works every day and brings home a windows, and some foundation work. This is just
decent wage, He also retired due to medical a one bedroom home. Todd said he would go
reasons. He went back to work, He is retired through it with us to show us exactly what has to
through IBEW. He draws a pension and he be done to get it up to code and done right.
makes $33.45 an hour on his check and that is
not his total package. About 50 % of the people Mr. Mckinley asked Todd if he would like to
in this neighborhood he is related to. His mom address this
and dad still live there. He has cousins, sisters,
and a brother that live out there in that Mr. Fisher said he was letting it come back to the
neighborhood. board. This property was condemned and the
order was upheld. It is in bad shape. He has no
Mr. Mckinley said it was purchased in April. He problem if someone wants to fix it up but they
does not have a real understanding how the tax need to understand it has to be brought up to
sale works but the people have until next April to code and it cannot be patched up.
pay the taxes was this correct?
Mr. Fisher wanted to ask Mr. Lanane what was
Mr. Cooper said he published well Mr. Norrick his recourse if they go in and don't really do
did, he is his lawyer and he took care of that. He anything to this property.
said he paid him $385 to publish it in the
newspaper. Mr. Lanane said to bring it back in front of the
board Then they will resend the order.
Ms. Wilson said they went and hired an attorney
to make sum everything was done right and they Mr. Fisher said he would like to do a walk
through with them so they know exactly what
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they are getting themselves into. He knows they board would like to set a review hearing in three
said it is a small house and it does not need much months to see what work has been done on this.
but it does.
Ms. Rector asked Mr. Fisher prior to the meeting
Mr. Cooper said the front half is a newer home to go out to the property to see what work has
and it is two block buildings two 10xI2 block been done and report back to the board. If
buildings. The front of the house if you go in nothing has been done she doesn't want to speak
there but I don't think you should because he for everyone else but she thinks the board will be
thinks it is full of bed bugs. He will not go back ready to tell Todd that he can move forward to
in there until he has a chance to spray and kill do the demolition.
whatever is in it. The front part of that house is
still good. The back side may have to be torn off Ms. Mcicinley asked Ms. Wilson if she thought
and added to it He has not gotten into it yet to 90 days was a reasonable amount of time.
see.
Ms. Wilson said yes that would give them plenty
Mr. Fisher said the house is not habitable. of time to go in there and get started.
Mr. Cooper said he knows and it needs rewired, Mr. Wilson said this is winter time.
new drywall, and the floor in the kitchen has to
be completely replaced. Ms. Rector said we are not asking you to have it
all done. We are asking that you get started.
Mr. Fisher said this is why he was bringing it
back to the board. Ms. Wilson said Mr. Cooper was planning on
getting inside and gutting it. He is not planning
Mr. Mckinley said the board is going to do their on doing any construction until the weather
order in two parts. breaks.
Mr. Dixon said Mr. Lanane do you have a certain Ms. Rector said her thought process is in three
pattern of time a person has for this or to resend months that will show everyone that A. you are
this order. serious about this and B. that progress has
started.
Ms. Rector asked if they could resend the order
then table the order for review in three months to Mr. Cooper said if he was not serious he would
see where things are. not have bought it.
Mr. Lamm said yes. Mr. Mckinley said that said that puts you into the
end of March.
Ms. Rector made a motion to resend the previous
demolition order with icgards to 2305 W 26' Mr. Fisher said he also wanted him to know with
street Mr. Dixon seconded. Motion passed. him not living in the house he has to be a
licensed electrician here. He will have to hire a
Mr. Cooper said he was hoping to get the inside licensed heating and a licensed plumber. These
demoed or gutted that was the goal. are not things he can do himself. All these things
have to be done through licensed contractors.
Mr. Fisher wants to add the stipulation that they
buy all their permits now. They are good for one Mr. Cooper said he was just doing the demo
year then they will review it as they go as long as right now.
they are doing what they say they are. He does
not have a problem helping them. That is one Mr. Fisher said he was just wanting Mr. Cooper
less they will have to tear down because they to understand.
have plenty.
Ms. Wilson asked Mr. Fisher if the contractors
Ms. Rector said ok then that is going to be the had to pull the permits.
second part of the motion. They need to purchase
all their permits before the end of the year that Mr. Fisher said yes. All Ms. Wilson will be
gives them a little bit of time and them as a pulling at this time is the building permit.
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Mr. Mcicinley asked if the board grants
Ms. Wilson said ok. permission when the work will start. Because
there is a reason why the house was on the
Mr. Dixon said the first motion is to resend the demolition list.
original order. Second they are going to check on
this in 90 days and by that time they should have Mr. Sanjuan said he was planning on starting
all the permits. after winter broke. But now since this he will
start as soon as possible.
Ms. Rector said some work should be started on
the house. Mr. Dixon seconded. Motion passed. Mr. Fisher said he will need proof of income,
and all permits will have to be pulled. This house
Mr. Mckinley said to Ms. Wilson and Mr. is in worse shape than the last one they were just
Cooper you are clear that the people that do the talking about. They were cleaning up the house
work have to be licensed by the City of across the street and they are trying to get all
Anderson. four corners done. He wants them to realize they
are very serious about getting these houses
Ms. Wilson and Mr. Cooper both said yes. cleaned up.
Mr. Fisher said this is a property that was tabled Mr. Sanjuan said he is going to start working on
2803 East Lynn street. This house has been this as soon as possible, he understands this
sitting not habitable, the foundation is crumbling, house is not in very good shape.
and there are structural problems. This house has
been in environmental. There is a couple here Mr. Fisher said he will need to see his financials
that would like to save this house. so he can see if he makes enough money to do all
the repairs.
Mr. Fisher has not seen any of their financial
informati on. Mr. Mckinley said Tim with your blessing they
are thinking about giving him 30 days to submit
Ms. Marquita Soriano is Mr. Sanjuan's his income and get all his permits pulled.
interpreter. She said he bought the property in
August. He is going to work on it and he has Mr. Fisher said he wanted them to understand
already got a permit to work on it. He they have to provide proof of his finances to
understands the property is really bad. show he has the finances to fix it. He has to have
his permits, and he wants some actual work
Ms. Rector asked Ms. Soriano when Mr. Sanjuan being done. If not he will come back and move
got his permit forward with the demo order.
Ms. Soriano said September 26th. Mr. Sanjuan said ok he is going to do that.
Ms. Rector said ok he got his permit in Ms. Rector made a motion to table this matter for
September now we are in December what has he 30 days. At that time he has to have gotten with
got done. Todd to make sure Todd has all the financials
and to make sure he has all the permits pulled to
Ms. Soriano said it was covered with tarps, and begin the work.
trash and he has cleaned all that up.
Ms. Rector asked Wendy if she could give an
Mr. Lanane asked who this gentleman is. Can he exact date in about 30 days when he should come
introduce himself? back in here.
Mr. Sanjuan said Gregorio Sanjuan. Mrs. Anderson said January 25' 11.
Ms. Soriano said he works at a company and he Ms. Rector said January 25th would be 30 days
works a lot. He has not been able to go to the and he would need to come back and show that
house yet. He has some pictures of the last time he has all his permits and the work started.
and now the house.
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Ms. Soriano said Mr. Sanjuan was thinking Ms. Rector asked if there was service on this
about starting with the outside then doing the property.
interior.
Mr. Fisher said it came back It has been
Mr. Fisher told the board thank you for their help published twice and sent unclaimed.
on those properties and they have another
property at 315 W 91' street The owners are Mr. Lanane said they have done published it and
here. This is one they asked about the lien on. He attempted certified so he thinks they are good to
is on disability, so there will be no lien. move forward.
Mr. Hutchinson introduced himself and his wife Mr. Fisher said he wanted to present his demo
Lisa Hutchinson. He said they were the owners order for 1716 Fairview Street for demolition.
and they want this house tore down- People are
going in and doing drugs. He was trying to fix it Ms. Rector made a motion to approve the demo
up. He put five thousand in the living room and order for 1716 Fairview Street. Mr. Dixon
people keep going in there and tearing it up. It is seconded. Motion passed.
trash. He needs some help.
Mr. Lanane said he needed to get the bids in
Ms. Rector said so you have met with Mr. Fisher order.
and you understand what your obligation's are.
Mr. Mckinley said they could go ahead and
Mr. Hutchinson said yes. affirm the orders for the other properties then go
back to the bids.
Ms. Rector made a motion to approve the demo
request from Mr. Fisher. Mr. Dixon seconded. Mr. Fisher said the next property is at 2211
Motion passed. Columbus Avenue. This house is an
environmental nightmare. The city has spent
Mr. Hutchinson said thank you very much. thousands of dollars cleaning it up. It has
become a dump sight. They have hoarders that
Mr. Lanane asked if Mr. Fisher wanted to open are not to be in there and they are. It is a bad
the bids for this property now. deal. He has Marty Dullworth from Anderson
Police Department working on it with them.
Mr. Fisher said yes. He also has three other They have had numerous complaints.
properties and wanted to know if the board
wanted to hear them first. Ms. Rector asked what Mr. Fisher has done for
service on this property.
Mr. Lanane said he would rather deal with them
one at a time. Mr. Fisher said it has been published and the
mail has come back. We sent it again and it came
Mr. Lanane said the bids are as follows. back no forward.
1) APFEL $10,990.00
2) Davis Excavating $14,800.00 Ms. Rector asked Mr. Fisher if he sent it to the
3) Gerry's Construction $12,888.00 Dustin Hulette at 607 Belzer drive.
4) Rhino Trucking $8,875.00
Mr. Fisher said yes.
Ms. Rector made a motion to accept the bid from
Rhino Trucking in the amount of $8,875.00 Mr. Mrs. Simmons said it was sent November 29th
Dixon seconded. Motion passed. and that service has come back.
Mr. Lanane said wait a minute he may have Ms. Rector said they needed to table this motion
found another bid. He did from Gerry Cox on 2211 Columbus Avenue. Mr. Dixon
Recycling in the amount of $13,400.00. seconded. Motion passed.
Mr. Fisher said the next property is at 1716 Mr. Fisher said the next demo order is at 1410
Fairview Street Rev J T Menifee Street. This gentleman is
deceased and they looked for a next of kin and
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could not find any. They have advertised it
twice. This house is in disarray and wide open. Mr. Lanane said going back to 1716 Fairview
He hates to spend the money to board it up. Street he did find the bid. It was for $5,440.00.
There are dead animals in it
Ms. Rector said the lowest bid on that one was
Ms. Rector said you sent a certified letter. Did $3,949.00.
that come back?
Mr. Lanane said yes but he wanted his bid put
Mr. Fisher said yes. into the record.
Ms. Rector made a motion to approve the demo Mr. Mckinley asked if there was any old
for 1410 Rev J T Menifee Street Mr-Dixon business for today.
seconded. Motion pacsed.
Deputy Chief Cawthorn said he wanted to update
Mr. McKinley asked Mr. Lanane if he was ready the board on the trade in vehicles.
to read the bids.
Deputy Chief said you requested the trade in of
Mr. Roane said yes. The house on 1716 the two mini vans. He wanted to update them.
Fairview Street bids are as follows. They were able to trade them both in. With the
1) M J FETZ $3,949.00 high mileage and year on the Dodge Caravan the
2) Rhino Trucking $5,575.00 Kelly Blue Book average trade in value good
3) Cox Recycling $5,575.00 condition is $420. They gave them $500 for each
4) APPEL $5,374.00 van. He just wanted to update the board
5) Shephard Homes $5,900.00 members.
Ms. Rector made a motion to accept the bid from Ms. Rector made a motion to adjourn the
M J FETZ in the amount of $3,949.00. Mr. meeting. Mr. Dixon seconded.
Dixon seconded. Motion passed.
Mr. Mckinley adjourned the meeting at 4:50 pm
Mr. Lanane said the last property at 1410 Rev J
T Menifee Street bids are as follows.
1)M I FETZ $2,470.00
2) Rhino Trucking $4,825.00
3) Cox Recycling $5,780.00
4) Davis $4,500.00
5) Gerry's Construction $3,945.00
6)APFEL $4,574.00
Mr. Mckinley asked Mr. Fisher if he has dealt
with MI FETZ in the past. Mike Mckinley, Chairperson
Mr. Fisher said yes. ATTES :
Mr. Mckinley said they are so much cheaper than
the others. Can they do the work? Wendy Anderson, card Secretary
Mr. Fisher said yes.
Ms. Rector made a motion to accept the bid from
MI FRETZ in the amount of $2,470.00. Mr.
Dixon seconded. Motion passed.
Mr. Fredrick's from Geffy's Construction asked
Mr. Lanane if he would check the bids again
from 1716 Fairview Street. He said he thought
they had bid on all the properties.
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