Plan Commission

PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES August 25, 2009 MEMBERS PRESENT: BUSINESS: Deborah Nelson, President PETITION # 14-09 SUBMITTED BY Greg Spencer, Vice President LINDA DILLARD AND LARRY GRAVES Mike Spyers, Member FOR A PRIMARY PLAT TO BE KNOWN Gene Yates, Member AS GRAVES FARM SUBDIVISION Mark Lamey, Member LOCATED IN THE 5300 THROUGH 6000 Joseph Newman, Member BLOCKS OF SOUTH RANGELINE ROAD Mike Dauss, Member ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THE 3100 Darin Foltz, Member BLOCK OF EAST 53RD STREET ON THE Willie Rayford, Member SOUTH SIDE MEMBERS ABSENT: Mr. Stires stated this property is located in the 5300 through 6000 blocks of South OTHERS PRESENT: Rangeline Road on the west side and the 3100 Michael Widing, Development Director block of East 53rd Street on the south side. Tim Stires, Assistant Development Director This property contains 34 acres and is Dave Wilbur, Senior Zoning Administrator presently zoned R-2 Residential, that permits Stephanie George, Zoning Administrator single family homes only. Mr. Stires added William Kreegar, Assistant City Attorney; and there is presently a single family home and a Anna Allman, Plan Commission Secretary barn. This is currently one large farm area. Mr. Stires stated the purpose of this primary ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF A plat is to create a two lot plat, the idea is to QUORUM: sell off the house with five acres and then the remainder would be the second lot. Lot #2 is Mrs. Nelson called the meeting to order at the farmhouse with five acres and Lot #1 is 4:31 p.m. Mrs. Allman took roll call and about 27 acres. declared a quorum with seven (7) members in attendance. Mr. Stires stated the submitted primary plat shows both lots with a 40 ft. front building Mr. Rayford performed the invocation and the setback line as the lots front South Rangeline Pledge of Allegiance was recited. Road, Interstate 69 and East 53rd Street. The plat also shows the required 15 ft. drainage, Mr. Foltz arrived after roll call at 4:33 pm. utility and communication easement around the perimeter of both lots. A 5 ft. non-access Mr. Lamey arrived after roll call at 4:34 pm. easement, measuring 209 ft. in length, is located in the northeast corner of proposed Lot MINUTES: #2. This non-access easement is to prevent any additional driveway cuts closer than the Mr. Spyers made a motion to approve the July existing driveway accessing the residence. 28, 2009 minutes as submitted. Mr. Rayford Staff notes the submitted primary plat shows seconded. Motion passed, 7 yes, 0 no. an existing Madison County storm water drainage ditch slicing through the primary plat from the northeast corner of Lot #2 through the center of Lot #1. The drainage ditch, known as the Amos F. Hoppes Tile 1 Drain, is approximately 190 ft. wide. Mr. Mr. Spyers asked where Mr. Gray lived in the Stires stated that any development on Lot #1 Patterson Addition. would most likely be significantly impacted by the fact that the drain is there, so they will Mr. Gray stated he was off Rangeline Road, have to take that into consideration as any the last house that Patterson built, on the east construction should happen. Mr. Stires stated side of Rangeline. at this point staff knows nothing as of right now that is planning to go on Lot #1. Mr. Spyers stated that was all controlled by the County Drainage Board. Mr. Stires stated the primary plat also indicates there is a 2.837 acre dedication of Mr. Widing stated all we were doing today is right-of-way along the west side of South platting the property, we’re not doing any Rangeline Road, and a .083 of an acre development. dedication of right-of-way along the south side of East 53rd Street. Ms. Juanita Wilson, 5504 Patterson Lane, Anderson, Indiana, stated she’s against any Mr. Stires added this plat was reviewed by the building over there because of the water Plat Review Committee on August 6, 2009. situation in her neighborhood. Ms. Wilson Some minor revisions were suggested and stated the drainage is bad because it causes completed. floods. Mr. Stires stated staff notes the City Mrs. Nelson stated the only thing this Comprehensive Plan classifies this property Commission is doing tonight is making an as Medium Density Residential; therefore, imaginary line through the property so they there is no plan to change the zoning of this can sell off the house. property. Mr. Stires stated this plat should not be considered in conflict with the City’s Ms. Wilson stated again that she didn’t want Comprehensive Plan. any building out there, because of the water situation. Ms. Wilson added a subdivision Mr. Stires stated staff is recommending the would mean sewers, city water, annexation, Plan Commission approve the primary plat for all that stuff. the Graves Farm Addition, because it meets the requirements of the Subdivision Control Mr. Widing stated all their platting is only for Ordinance. Mr. Stires added if the Plan single family homes. There will be no Commission should chose to approve this, this commercial development. plat should not be forwarded on to any other governmental unit. Mr. Spyers made a motion to approve Petition #14-09 for the primary plat for a two lot Mr. Richard Ward, 920 Main Street, subdivision to be known as Graves Farm Anderson, Indiana, stated he would answer Subdivision. Mr. Spyers added this plat, if any questions the Commission had. approved, is not to be forwarded to any other governmental units. Mr. Newman seconded. Mr. Newman asked Mr. Ward what was the Motion passed, 9 yes, 0 no. intent of doing this? MISCELLANEOUS Mr. Ward stated it was in the estate and the children were wanting to sell the house, which Mr. Widing stated staff has done extensive is the primary reason to order the survey so research on different cities throughout the they can sell the house. state on billboards. Mr. Gray, 3180 South 200 East, Anderson, Mr. Widing stated he gave the Commission a Indiana, asked if this plat was going to help copy of the City’s existing Sign Ordinance and the water trouble. 2 the changes that were discussed at the last Mr. Widing stated staff was trying to address Plan Commission meeting. some of the cap and trade. Mr. Widing stated what was lacking in the Mrs. Nelson thanked staff for all the work City’s Sign Ordinance were the definitions of they did on the research of billboards. Off-Premise Signs and Outdoor Advertising Structure signs. Mr. Widing asked if a committee wanted to meet before next meeting. Mr. Widing went over some of the important suggested changes in the Ordinance. Mr. Mrs. Nelson stated the committee will meet at Widing suggested the Plan Commission study 4:30 pm on September 8th in Conference Room the paperwork and discuss it further next One. month. Mr. Spencer asked when Mr. Widing wanted Mr. Spencer asked in Section #7 the to submit the new Ordinance proposal to the possibility of changing the process from a first City Council? come first serve basis. Mr. Widing stated within the next sixty days. Mr. Widing stated staff has not had a problem in the department where we felt that was a valid issue. ADJOURMENT Mr. Spencer asked if the department has not Mrs. Nelson adjourned the meeting at had companies wanting to get a permit and 5:14 pm. not able to due to the first come first serve basis. Mr. Widing stated staff has not had an issue BY: ______________________________ where someone has been complaining about Deborah Nelson, President the issue. ATTEST: ___________________________ Mr. Yates asked what the substitution clause Anna Lise Allman, Board Secretary was. Mr. Newman stated he would like to see the limit of two billboards stretched to eight permits. Mr. Foltz asked why some of the communities that were researched do not permit billboards? Mr. Widing stated they believe it creates sign clutter. Mr. Spencer asked if staff issued four permits a year or eight permits a year, would they all be issued every year? Mr. Widing stated probably not. Mr. Yates stated he found that substitution clause at the bottom of the article on “The Billboard Shakedown Scheme.” 3