City Council
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · November 26, 2019
Minutes
ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING – NOVEMBER 26, 2019
MINUTES
The Workshop Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Julie Trude,
November 26, 2019 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Sheri Bukkila, Mike Knight, Valerie Holthus, and Jamie Barthel
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Administrator, Jim Dickinson
Community Development Director, Joe Janish
Director of Public Works/City Engineer, Dave Berkowitz
Others
PRESERVE AT PETERSEN FARMS PHASE 2
Mr. Janish reviewed the history of the Planned Unit Development (PUD) at the Preserve at
Petersen Farms. Mr. Janish explained the issue of the long cul-de-sac, access points to Phase 1,
and emergency response access. The developer investigated options for an access point and took
additional soil borings. The developer found that there would be a significant amount of material
needing to be removed, putting financial burden on the developer and creating an environmental
impact on the adjacent wetland. Mr. Janish stated the developer would like to discuss
alternatives with the City Council. Mr. Janish explained staff cannot deviate from the approved
plan without Council approval.
Darren Lazan, Landform, came forward and further explained the initial soil borings did not give
a full picture of the soil where the road is planned to go. The additional borings showed 20 feet
of unsuitable material, requiring a massive amount of digging and fill creating a tremendous cost
and impacting the surrounding wetland. Mr. Lazan stated he has been in discussions with Anoka
County to realign 7th Avenue to remove the dangerous curves. He indicated the County is
receptive to a redesign, installing a roundabout and eliminating several dangerous access points.
Mr. Lazan stated Phase 2 of the development will be redesigned to fit into the realignment of 7th
Avenue. Mr. Lazan explained the impacts to existing and proposed neighborhoods. Mr. Lazan
would like Council feedback regarding 7th Avenue and a secondary access point so they can
move forward with revising Phase 2 and begin construction in the spring.
Councilmember Knight asked if the developer would demolish the farm buildings to create the
connections. Mr. Lazan responded that the barns would cost half a million to demolish and if the
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road would go through these structures, the County may share in the cost of removing the barns.
Mr. Lazan stated the large barn buildings would ultimately come down for the development, and
under the current plan the small ones would remain.
Mayor Trude addressed previous neighborhood concerns about access points to 7th Avenue and
explained the revised plan would reduce access points and alleviate concerns.
Mr. Lazan explained the cost and impact the original road plan to connect the phases would have
on the area and on the developer. Mr. Lazan showed a drone video of the land to the Council.
Mr. Lazan described the walking trail and open space that would be added amenities if the plan
were changed.
Councilmember Holthus asked if pilings were an option through the wetland. Mr. Lazan stated
pilings are not an option due to the soil composition and long-term maintenance issues.
Mr. Berkowitz stated the need for two access points to neighborhoods. Mr. Berkowitz is
concerned the future connection will never be constructed. Fire Chief Streich stated the primary
reasons for a secondary access is emergency response and diverting traffic during these
incidents. Mr. Berkowitz stated long stretches of road without a secondary access point are rare
in Andover.
Councilmember Holthus asked about the likelihood the developer would be able to purchase the
property to the south to build the second access point. Mr. Dickinson went through the ideal
situation that would release the property for the project. Mr. Lazan stated it was a complicated
process yet possible and the developer has already begun the process.
Mr. Lazan asked what the standards were for a secondary access point in new City
developments. He stated past standards were one access point with a designated future access.
Mayor Trude responded the City would like as many as possible without shutting down
developments. Mr. Berkowitz stated it is staff’s concern that there would be many more
developments without a secondary access point and determined staff would like more evidence
that the second access point is feasible.
Mr. Dickinson asked Mr. Lazan for a best case/worst case scenario on cost. Mr. Lazan
responded $500,000 to construct the access point in the PUD and stated he cannot recover the
cost in all of Phase 2. Councilmember Holthus asked about a land bridge and Mr. Lazan stated
the land bridge option is even more expensive.
Mayor Trude stated she is comfortable with a future south access point.
Councilmember Knight asked about the impact on the existing homes if 7th Avenue was
realigned. Mr. Lazan explained some would have their access to 7th Avenue diverted but it
would give them safer access.
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Mayor Trude asked Mr. Dickinson to clarify what staff was looking for from Council. Mr.
Dickinson replied that staff is looking for direction on how the developer could start Phase 2
with a change of access points. Mr. Dickinson stated he would like to see some sort of right-of-
way established on the property to the south so that if the property does get sold, the City can
build a road through it for public benefit. Mayor Trude requested the proposal be run by the City
Attorney to see if the easement can be added to the transportation plan and Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Dickinson stated the two options are 1) sticking with the original PUD or 2) allowing for a
PUD amendment allocating a future southern access point. Mr. Dickinson stated staff would like
to see criteria for a timeline on the development of the southern access point.
Mayor Trude requested staff take the legal issues regarding right-of-way to the City Attorney.
Mayor Trude asked if it was possible for the Council to amend the PUD to evaluate moving
forward with Phase 2 concurrent with the County redesigning 7th Avenue.
Councilmember Holthus asked if the PUD for Phase 2 must happen for the County to move
forward with redesigning 7th Avenue. Mr. Dickinson replied Phase 3 impacts the roadway more
than Phase 2. Mr. Lazan stated future phases are flexible and can show the realignment in the
design.
Councilmember Holthus asked if the existing road across the wetland can be supported enough
to allow for emergency access. Chief Streich replied if there was an accident that shut down the
road for an accident, there is no place for residents to go. Chief Streich stated the road could be
reinforced, however, at extreme cost and maintenance.
Jason Osberg, JD Landholdings, came forward stated the south connection could be several years
down the road. He stated the south connection is a better option than building a road across the
wetland. Mr. Osberg suggested the developer could construct a temporary access road if the
southern connection is not built at the end of Phase 4. Mr. Osberg stated the conditions are
favorable to move forward with realigning 7th Avenue and doesn’t want to miss out on this
opportunity.
Mayor Trude stated she is happy that there is desire and discussions about improving the safety
of 7th Avenue for current and future residents. Mayor Trude stated she would like to see Phase 2
move along however she does not feel Council has enough information to make a decision.
Councilmember Bukkila stated she would say no to a PUD amendment because of the lack of a
solution to the problem. She stated the problem is being duplicated and not resolved. She
suggested working on 7th Avenue and building off that proposal.
Councilmember Barthel stated he would decide to construct the road in the original PUD because
it provides safe access to the neighborhood. He stated he must think about the future of the City
and residents and planning for safety and emergency situations.
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Mayor Trude stated the remainder of Andover has complicated topography and the traditional
development grid does not fit in those areas. She stated rules have changed with wetlands and
fill making development more complicated. Mayor Trude indicated future neighborhoods would
look more like Phase 2 due to the topography.
Mr. Janish asked if Phase 2 can be reduced in size and if the design can be changed to minimize
cul-de-sacs and long stretches of road. Mr. Lazan replied the land is not conducive to that
design.
Mayor Trude stated Phase 2 didn’t look much different than Country Oaks which has railroad
tracks on the east and wetland on the west.
Mr. Dickinson stated it appeared to be risky for the developer to apply for a PUD amendment at
this time and clarified Council’s desire to get more detailed information about the likelihood of a
southern access point.
Mary VanderLaan, Andover Planning and Zoning Commission came forward and asked if Phase
2 had to happen before Phase 3. She suggested Phase 3 move forward while the southern access
point is being determined.
Mr. Lazan stated there are three issues at play: cost, environmental, and additional traffic
impacting northern neighbors.
Mayor Trude asked if the originally planned road can be built at a different standard just for
safety or if it must be built for year-round traffic. Mr. Berkowitz stated the road in the PUD is
not feasible and the focus should be on the southern access point and determining how much the
City gets involved. Mayor Trude would like to investigate the southern option.
The consensus of the Council is to get more information regarding if the City can gain right-of-
way on that property and the probable timeline for building the south access. Council supports
the realignment of 7th Avenue.
The Council recessed at 7:45 p.m. and reconvened at 7:55 p.m.
DISCUSS 2020 MILL & OVERLAY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ASSESSMENT METHOD
Mr. Berkowitz reviewed the information in the staff report, explaining the Council is requested
to discuss the proposed mill and overlay project for Jay Street NW and Martin Street NW from
Station Parkway NW to Bunker Lake Boulevard NW and the mill and overlay of Jay Street NW
from Bunker Lake Boulevard NW to Hanson Boulevard NW and the assessment method related
to these projects.
Mr. Berkowitz explained the current process is to assess 25% of the cost to the property owner.
Mr. Berkowitz stated this process will remain the same for residential property, however, staff is
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requesting direction on how to proceed with the assessment method for commercial properties
that do not have access to Jay Street but still benefit from the project. Mr. Berkowitz provided
staff’s recommendation that properties along Jay Street are assessed on front footage basis. He
stated it is fair to assess them for the improvements on Jay Street because businesses generate
traffic on that road.
Mr. Berkowitz stated this would not affect the residential properties to the west but would affect
the commercial properties. If the properties are assessed for Jay Street, they would not be
assessed for the side streets in the future. Mr. Berkowitz explained if Council chooses to go that
route, there is a chance the businesses will challenge it. Mr. Berkowitz read the City’s
Assessment Policy to the Council and how staff is interpreting it.
Councilmember Bukkila stated since the businesses will not be assessed for 138th Avenue, the
cost would fall on to the City. Mr. Berkowitz replied that is correct, the City would take on more
of the cost of that road. Councilmember Bukkila asked if the City would get more from the
assessment if they were assessed for 138th Avenue versus Jay Street. Mr. Berkowitz replied the
City assesses commercial properties for the street width which results in a higher cost to some
businesses and a no change for others.
Mr. Berkowitz listed the properties and the amounts they would be assessed if Council supported
staff’s recommended assessment method.
Council consensus was to support the assessment process brought forward by staff.
Mr. Berkowitz stated staff is planning a meeting with businesses on December 10th to present the
assessment method. Staff will meet separately with the Association and will discuss a way to
assess that property. When staff has completed the meetings, they will develop a feasibility
report and return to the Council with a proposal.
2020 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT/2020 PROPERTY TAX LEVY DISCUSSION
Mr. Dickinson stated the public hearing is on December 3rd. Mr. Dickinson reviewed
information he will be presenting at the December 3rd public hearing, pointing out the
adjustments to several items.
Councilmember Holthus asked what the median home value is. Mr. Dickinson stated the City
was in the high $260’s for 2019 but does not have the final number from the County for 2020.
Mr. Dickinson stated he has received a few phone calls where property values have gone up
significantly due to property improvements and one where a new homeowner bought a property
that was previously on a disabled veteran exclusion.
OTHER BUSINESS
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PRAIRIE KNOLL PARK
Mr. Berkowitz stated the Andover Football Association presented the Park and Recreation
Commission with a plan to improve Prairie Knoll Park parking. The Park and Recreation
Commission directed staff to prepare a rough cost estimate. Staff estimates the cost to be
$350,000 - $400,000. Mayor Trude asked if the Association would contribute money for the
improvements and Mr. Berkowitz stated he had no idea it they were planning to contribute. Mr.
Dickinson suggested hiring Jason Amberg a landscape architect with WSB to do an analysis of
Prairie Knoll Park to determine the best use of funds and space.
Council consensus was to hire Mr. Amberg with WSB.
SEPTIC SYSTEM COMPLIANCE TEST
Mr. Dickinson was approached by the Anoka Conservation District asked if the City was
interested in having a compliance test for a septic system. Mr. Dickinson stated compliance tests
already happen if a mortgage is involved. Mayor Trude stated she would rather give the
information so the parties are informed and can negotiate if there are problems. Mr. Dickinson
states the City does recommend the test to be done but does not require or enforce it. Mayor
Trude asked for more information to be presented to the Council. Mr. Dickinson stated he would
forward information to the Council for review.
RECESS
Mayor Trude recessed the City Council Workshop 8:45 p.m. to a Closed Session of the City
Council to discuss the City Administrator Performance Review.
RECONVENE
The City Council reconvened at 9:05 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Holthus, Seconded by Bukkila, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Shari Kunza, Recording Secretary
Agenda
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City Council Workshop
Tuesday, November 26, 2019
Conference Rooms A & B
1. Call to Order – 6:00 p.m.
2. Preserve at Petersen Farms Phase 2 – Planning/Engineering
3. Discuss 2020 Mill & Overlay Commercial Property Assessment Method - Engineering
4. 2020 Budget Development/2020 Property Tax Levy Discussion – Administration
5. Other Business
Closed Session
6. City Administrator Performance Appraisal
7. Adjournment
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