City Council
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · September 1, 2020
Minutes
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING – SEPTEMBER 1, 2020
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor
Julie Trude, September 1, 2020, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Sheri Bukkila, Valerie Holthus, Jamie Barthel, and Ted Butler
Councilmember absent: None
Also present: City Administrator, Jim Dickinson
Assistant City Engineer, Jason Law
Community Development Director, Joe Janish
City Attorney, Scott Baumgartner
Others
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
PROCLAMATION – DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH
Mayor Trude declared October Domestic Violence Awareness Month and read the
Proclamation.
RESIDENT FORUM
No one appeared before the Council.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Motion by Barthel, Seconded by Bukkila, to approve the Agenda as presented. Motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
August 18, 2020 Regular Meeting:
Motion by Butler, Seconded by Butler, to approve the August 18, 2020 Regular meeting
minutes as presented. Motion carried 4 ayes and 1 present (Bukkila).
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CONSENT ITEMS
Item 2 Approve Payment of Claims
Item 3 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-14, 2020 Mill & Overlay - Jay Street NW (See
Resolution R059-20)
Item 4 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-15, 2020 Mill & Overlay - Martin Street NW
(See Resolution R060-20)
Item 5 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-16, 2020 Mill & Overlay - Woodland Estates
1st & 2nd Additions (See Resolution R061-20)
Item 6 Award Bid/20-17/Public Works Pavement Reconstruction (See Resolution R062-20)
Item 7 Approve Amendment/l6-39B/2018 Comp Plan Update/Transportation
Item 8 Accept Contribution/CenterPoint Energy Fire Dept. Equipment (See Resolution R063-
20)
Item 9 Adopt Resolution Accepting CARES Act Grant Funding for Elections (See Resolution
R064-20)
Item 10 Rescind Resolution R056-20 and Approve Resolution for Vacation of Drainage and
Utility Easements and Acceptance of New Drainage and Utility Easements - 16523
Orchid Street NW/3290 165th Lane NW (See Resolution R065-20)
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Barthel, to approve the Consent Agenda as read. Motion
carried unanimously.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT RENAMING A STREET
IN SHADOWBROOK NORTH
The City Council is asked to approve Ordinance 212-I renaming certain streets in
Shadowbrook North in the City of Andover. Community Development Director Janish stated
staff is recommending changing the street known as Alder Street NW to be renamed Butternut
Street NW for the north-south segment and 143rd Avenue Northwest for the east-west
segment. Mr. Janish stated once approved, the Building Official will notify the changes to the
authorities stated in the staff report.
Motion by Butler, Seconded by Bukkila, to adopt Ordinance 212I changing/renaming Alder
Street NW to Butternut Street NW/143rd Avenue NW. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (CUP)/PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
(PUD) AMENDMENT - "THE PRESERVE AT PETERSEN FARMS" PHASE 2 - PIDS
07-32-24-42-0002, 07-32-24-43-0003, 07-32-24-34-0002, 07-32-24-34-0003, 07-32-24-33-
0001, 07-32-24-31-0001, 07-32-24-32-0001, 07-32-24-23-0002, 07-32-24-24-0001 - JD
ANDOVER HOLDINGS
Community Development Director Janish stated the City Council is asked to consider a
Conditional Use Permit (CUP)/Planned Unit Development (PUD) Amendment for the
Preserve at Petersen Farms. This request will modify the original PUD and the PUD
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Amendment that occurred on December 18, 2018.
Mr. Janish reviewed the purpose of a PUD which is to encourage more efficient allocation of
density and intensity of land; allows for greater flexibility in environmental design; and
demonstrates, to the satisfaction of the City Council that a higher quality development will
result due to the use of a PUD.
Mr. Janish stated the property is not in the MUSA and the applicant removed the property
from the Agricultural Preserve eight years ago to plan for a development. Mr. Janish
explained the developer is seeking to modify the PUD to add Phase 2, deviate from the length
of cul-de-sacs, utilize private septic systems instead of shared, permit 5 lots to be under 1 acre
of usable net land area, remove the east/west connector roadway, and make adjustments to the
Master Plan. Mr. Janish provided additional details for each of the applicant’s requests as
provided in the staff report.
Mr. Janish stated the Planning and Zoning Commission held a public hearing on August 25,
2020 where they received a presentation from the developer and feedback from residents. Mr.
Janish summarized the concerns residents addressed: the project is too dense; deviations of the
lot sizes; need more time to review and take public comments; loss of a rural feel; too many
trees being cut own; taxes keep going up even while Andover is growing; is it a benefit to
Andover; the speed of Inca Street since it is an MSA route; why isn’t the City requiring the
access to Phase 1 if it’s requiring an access to the south; and why are the number of lots
increasing around the lake.
Mr. Janish presented the comments and questions brought forth by the Planning and Zoning
Commissioners. He said they asked the following:
1. What is the contingency plan if the south connection in Phase 1 does not materialize?
2. Is there any other possible connection besides east/west connector or south option?
3. How many phases are expected?
4. How are septic system locations determined?
5. If individuals have issues with their wells, what do they do?
6. When was the flood mapping completed for this area, and when will it be updated?
7. How did Martins Meadows come to be?
8. Can the approval process be contingent upon the applicant securing a secondary access
through property to the south that the applicant does not own?
Mr. Janish informed the Council they have the most recent and updated information in their
packet. Mr. Janish explained the City Council is asked to take a look at this request, taking
into account the Planning and Zoning Commission recommendation and concerns from the
neighbors. He stated the Planning and Zoning Commission, on a 5-2 vote, approved moving
this item forward contingent on access to Phase 1 and adding the term “to the satisfaction of
staff” on conditions 13 and 14 of the Resolution.
Mayor Trude asked if the Council can require an applicant to address issues on land outside of
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plat requirements and on land they don’t own.
Mr. Baumgartner said the concept of going off-plat, when you don’t have the authority to be
there, is difficult. He said he looked at the City Code for direction and found that any
conditions placed on the applicant, it must be within the boundary of the plat. Mr.
Baumgartner read portions from the City Code that supports his opinion and stated basing
approval of a plat on issues outside its own boundaries can leave developments undeveloped.
He advised Council to base their decision on issues pertaining to whether the plan functions,
is desirable on its own, and meets requirements acceptable to the City Council.
Mayor Trude stated she could see someone stopping a landowner from developing hundreds
of acres of their land by creating an obstacle which is not fair to the landowner.
Mayor Trude stated the City is being asked to consider an amendment to the PUD amended in
order to proceed with Phase 2. She said the Council discussed the east/west road at a
workshop and discussed the soils, the width of road, and the environmental impact. Mayor
Trude stated the developer had things come up that were not anticipated.
Mr. Janish suggested the Council could move between Agenda Items 12 & 13 as needed to
ensure all were discussed before the Council voted.
Mayor Trude stated she had a list of questions for discussion and would like to see where the
Council stands on each item. Mayor Trude asked the Council to comment on the east-west
connector road and if it was a reasonable request to remove it.
Councilmember Bukkila stated she is really disappointed they are not getting the road and
understands it is impossible. She said the alternative of going south is putting them in the
same predicament as the east-west route: that it is not viable. She said there is no guarantee,
no matter which direction they go, that there will be a secondary access.
Mayor Trude said there will be continued efforts to connect the development to the south but
they can’t require it as part of the plat.
Councilmember Bukkila stated even when you own the property, there is no guarantee the
soils will support a road.
Mayor Trude explained the development is limited to providing access in other directions
because of geography.
Councilmember Bukkila said the developers did have land with the intent of creating a road,
however, they did not do the work prior to the proposal to ensure its viability. She said it hurt
the developer’s credibility.
Councilmember Holthus asked if there can be a footnote or clause for future consideration of
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the road going south.
Mayor Trude stated the Council will encourage discussions about road access to the south and
asked if Council can make it a condition and not a requirement. She said it would show the
City made an effort to make the connection.
Mr. Baumgartner said you can make discussion of a southern access a condition, but the City
has no authority to enforce it.
Councilmember Holthus asked how the Council can prevent the secondary access to the south
from being forgotten.
Mr. Baumgartner replied the City can add a notation to encourage the developer to continue
negotiations, and it may not be enforceable, but it would create a record.
Council consensus was to a condition stating the developer is encouraged to continue the
pursuit of a connection to the south.
Councilmember Barthel stated he watched the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting and
thanked the Commissioners for their work because it was a long meeting. He said he is
disappointed the road isn’t going through and understands the Council can’t make the
developer liable for property they don’t own. He said he would like to require some sort of
secondary access and state the rest of the development is contingent on access to Phase 1. He
said if there is not a secondary access by the time Phase 2 is complete, the City should make
them build a road through the swamp.
Mayor Trude said building a road through the wetland was not feasible from an engineering
standpoint. She said it would be a denial based on not having an access and effects the people
in Phase 1 more than the people in Phase 2.
Councilmember Barthel said the people in Phase 1 deserve another access and the City can’t
expect everyone to go through 168th Avenue.
Mayor Trude said the City always encourages two accesses to neighborhoods but the
topography of the land is making it difficult.
Councilmember Butler agrees with the disappointment of not having the road and also agrees
with not being able to control something out of the development. He said he would like to see
a secondary access road however he cannot prohibit moving forward with phase 2.
Mayor Trude called on Assistant City Engineer Jason Law and asked him to go into greater
detail about soil borings and this road. Mr. Law said there was quite a few soil borings taken
in the area prior to the study of building the road, however, none were taken in the wetland
area where the crossing needed to be. Mr. Law stated the City is now requiring the developer
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to take additional soil borings to ensure the feasibility of a road prior to approval. Mr. Law
said there are fewer wetland areas as they move to the west, which consists of clay soils which
are much more viable.
Mayor Trude said the City is being more aggressive in requiring soil borings and in this case,
there was a significant depth of peat. Mr. Law said she is correct and the developer would
have to excavate all the peat and bring in clean fill. He said it is a complicated process and
would impact the wetlands tremendously.
Councilmember Barthel said it is feasible. Mr. Law said from an engineering standpoint, it is
feasible, but the consequences outweigh the benefits.
Councilmember Holthus said the wetlands could be forever changed. Mr. Law agreed it
could.
Councilmember Barthel asked if a bridge could be built. Mr. Law replied it would be millions
of dollars to build a bridge and the City would own it.
Mayor Trude said the revised plan is to have a public woodchip trail where the farm road was
maintained by the HOA. Mr. Janish said if the HOA does not maintain the trail, the City
would follow up with the HOA and if all else fails, the City would take over the maintenance
of the trail.
Councilmember Barthel stated he is agreeable to Phase 2 moving forward, however his
approval of future phases is in question if there is nothing done about the access to Phase 1.
Mayor Trude spoke about the remaining issues: the cul-de-sac length, the width of the lot on
the cul-de-sac at 100 feet, and a change to the self-imposed 1.5 acres of upland on each lot.
She asked if Council was acceptable to these changes.
Councilmember Bukkila asked Mr. Janish to display the slide comparing the original PUD
map with the revised PUD map. Councilmember Bukkila said there were a whole bunch of
issues with Phase 1 because of the land. She stated she made a lot of concessions so the
project could move forward. Councilmember Bukkila said she was looking forward to bigger
lots in Phase 2 and aims for the high bar. She stated she is not seeing what was envisioned 2
years ago. Councilmember Bukkila said the minimums are being met but she is disappointed
there is not a road, the lots are smaller, and the development does not look like what she was
hoping.
Mayor Trude stated the development does not have rectangular lots over most developments,
protects the lake, and has big backyards with the house closer to the road, encouraging
neighbors to get to know each other.
Councilmember Bukkila said she would have liked to see lot sizes closer to 2 acres than 1.5
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acres. Her expectation was that they were going to be larger lots. Councilmember Bukkila
said this development borders neighborhoods with large lots and she would have liked to see
the larger lots on the perimeter and the smaller lots in the interior. Mayor Trude said these are
items discussed during the sketch phase and the City can’t ask them to go back and redraw it.
Mr. Janish said if you reduce the length of the cul-de-sacs, the developer will lose lots.
Mayor Trude said the density is the same, the lake is protected, and natural resources are
preserved. She said it’s a give and take.
Councilmember Barthel said he is fine with the cul-de-sac length. He agrees the lots are
smaller than what he would like to see.
Council reached consensus to accept the amendments to the PUD.
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Butler to table the vote until after addressing the Preliminary
Plat item. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT - THE MEADOWS AT PETERSEN FARMS (46 -
SINGLE FAMILY RURAL LOTS) - PIDS: 07-32-24-42-0002, 07-32-24-43-0003, 07-32-24-
31-0001, 07-32-24-34-0002 - JD ANDOVER HOLDINGS
Community Development Director Janish said the City Council is asked to review a
Preliminary Plat for The Meadows at Petersen Farms. Mr. Janish explained staff would like to
discuss the street access. He stated a new street would be constructed in alignment with Inca
Street so there would be a four-way intersection. He said the County would make
improvements on 7th Avenue and plans on installing roundabouts instead of realigning the
road.
Mr. Janish stated the Planning and Zoning Commission took testimony regarding the Jivaro-
Inca Street realignment. He said Council direction was for the parties (the developer and
landowners to the north) to resolve the issue. He said staff are aware of several meetings
between the two parties and indicated there is not a resolution at this point.
Mr. Janish informed the Council that the number of lots have increased on the shoreline. He
said Phase 2 takes down more trees than the developer wanted to take down, but 8 of 34 acres
of trees needed to be cleared to accommodate streets. Mr. Janish explained the plat has been
reviewed for stormwater drainage.
Mr. Janish stated the Planning and Zoning Commission passed a recommendation of denial in
a 5-2 vote with the reason for the denial being the lack of a resolution of access to the north.
Mr. Janish reviewed the comments received from residents during the public hearing as
written in the staff report. Mr. Janish highlighted the Planning and Zoning Commission
comments that all three parties (the City, applicant, and the landowners to the north) must be
acceptable of the resolution of access to the north. He said the Planning and Zoning
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Commission stated the application was not ready to come to the Planning and Zoning
Commission because all the issues had not been worked out.
Diane Park, 1524 – 155th Lane NW, came forward and introduced herself as a member of the
Petersen family. She stated she is present on behalf of her family and said people are pitting
against each other and against the developer on social media. Ms. Park said her grandfather
bought 400 acres in the 1950s and raised turkeys. She said all her grandfather wanted was to
be a successful business owner. Ms. Park explained there have been three generations of her
family farming the land. In addition to farming, she said her father, Fred, wanted to give back
to the community. Ms. Park stated the family farm was pushed out by large corporate farms.
She said she helped her parents through the change of giving up the farm and is now ensuring
their future by developing their land. Ms. Park said her family are stewards of this land and
extremely conscientious of how are they going to develop it. She said they interviewed many
developers with the goal of preserving the natural land and sharing the beauty with other
families. Ms. Park said the family did not have a choice to keep the farm because it was time
to develop. She said the priority was to retain the natural beauty, honor the past, and create
the future. Ms. Park said the family hired JD Andover Holdings for Phase 1 only and did not
commit to Phase 2. Ms. Park stated the family was so pleased with Phase 1 that they hired JD
Andover Holdings for Phase 2.
Darren Lazan, JD Andover Holdings, came forward and presented the vision for the
development of the Petersen Farm. He said his business has developed a specialty helping
farmers with their succession planning. Mr. Lazan said they involve families in the process of
developing their property and fulfilling their vision for their land. He said he has been
impressed with the Petersen family and said Diane is driven to take care of her family.
Mr. Lazan displayed a map showing the original PUD and the proposed amended PUD. He
said the lot sizes of Phase 1 were 2.5 units per acre and the average lot size in Phase 2 is 2
acres with density of .46 units per acre. Mr. Lazan said their design shifts density to preserve
the natural features of the land. He stated the project’s density is .32 units per acre which is in
line with the original PUD. Mr. Lazan explained that developers put a lot of research and
detail into the current phase and projects as best they can for the future. He stated as
developers begin to work on additional phases, they get more information which leads to
changes and amendments to the PUD.
Mr. Lazan summarized the success of Phase 1. Mr. Lazan commented on the density of the
development and said the smallest lot in Phase 1 would fit 6 urban lots. Mr. Lazan stated
Phase 2, the Meadows, has 46 lots on 100 acres with lot sizes ranging in size from 1.5 to 5
acres.
Mr. Lazan summarized the requests in the amendment including the elimination of the east-
west road. He stated they are also disappointed they could not make the road work as it would
lend to the accessibility of their development. Mr. Lazan described the reasons why the east-
west road was eliminated. He said the City asked them to find an alternate access point which
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left only the south because they are bordered by Martins Meadows to the north and wetlands
to the east. Mr. Lazan spoke about the alternative access to the south and said they are
planning a temporary cul-de-sac that will eventually connect when the properties to the south
are developed. He said they are remaining engaged in acquiring the land because the property
is going through foreclosure but they are having difficulty contacting the bank.
Mr. Lazan spoke about Jivaro Street and said it is the most contentious item in the
development. Mr. Lazan stated Jivaro Street must relocate due to the shoreland setback and
MSA standards. He said the solution is to extend Inca Street. Mr. Lazan stated there is a
disagreement on property rights between the applicant and the landowners to the north.
Mr. Lazan gave background information on Jivaro Street, the easement, and the trail of
documents leading the property owners and the City to their current situation. Mr. Lazan
showed excerpts from the private easement agreement between the Luedtkes and the
Petersens. Mr. Lazan stated the Petersens and JD Andover Holdings have met the obligation
to provide “Equal or Better” access to the Luedtke property and asked the Council to approve
the preliminary plat as proposed. Mr. Lazan stated there are alternatives if the City believes
an easement is needed across the Petersen property and the applicant can provide an easement
of equal terms to the original easement agreement. Mr. Lazan stated if the City believes it is
the Petersen’s responsibility to provide a public easement, they can do so through one of the
two options. Mr. Lazan presented two options to provide public easement access to the
Luedtke and McDonald property.
Mr. Lazan showed a timeline of the efforts the developer has made with the property owners
to the north to resolve the Jivaro Street access beginning in July of 2019. He shared the
options they presented to the Luedtkes and McDonalds at no cost to the property owners, all
of which were turned down.
Mr. Lazan summarized the applicant’s request for the preliminary plat approval. He said the
applicant cannot lose a construction season over the lack of an agreement with the property
owners to the north. He stated they would like the plat approved with the understanding they
will work out an agreement with the property owners to the north and if they don’t, then the
Council will provide direction on how they would like this to be resolved.
Mayor Trude recessed the meeting at 9:02 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 9:10 p.m.
Councilmember Butler asked if all the previous options were on the table for resolution. Mr.
Lazan stated all options are on the table. Mr. Lazan stated the two options he presented
tonight are new proposals contained on the Petersen’s land which gives the McDonalds and
Luedtkes the same access as they have now.
Jason Osberg, JD Andover Holdings, came forward and said all the options are still on the
table. He said the Luedtkes and the McDonalds have been in communication several times a
week over the last few months. He said the dialog has increased and they are moving in the
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right direction. Mr. Osberg is confident they can come to an agreement.
Hope Luedtke, 16932 Jivaro St NW, she said 6 generations of her family have lived on this
land and they are trying to hang on to their property. She said the conversations between them
and the developer did not have “meat” until recently. She did not think the developers
thought she and her family had a leg to stand on. She said the documentation the family had
was not respected. She strongly believes that if the entire PUD would have been started with
giving access to the properties to the north, they wouldn’t be in this position and it’s still a hot
mess.
Mayor Trude said the property owners will not be landlocked and the question is where they
will have access. She thanked Ms. Luedtke for her family’s contribution to the community.
Jeff Luedtke, 16932 Jivaro Street, came forward and said it is pretty emotional for him. He is
not just a property owner wanting his wishes accommodated. He said this property has been
in the family since 1933. He said he is trying to replace what they have which is access to his
property.
Mayor Trude replied that he will have access to his property, the question is where: the same
location it is now or somewhere new. Mr. Luedtke said Option A is new to him, but he is
familiar with all the other options. Mr. Luedtke stated he is interested in the land swap, but
they have not had time to communicate with their legal counsel.
Mayor Trude said the Council is in a predicament because they have to act within a certain
amount of time to approve the development. The City wants the developer to move forward
with the project without putting the property owners to the north in a difficult position. She
said the Council needs to pick something that is a fall back if negotiations do not work out.
Mr. Luedtke said he understands it. He stated he would like to have a legal lot so he will not
have trouble selling it in the future. Mayor Trude stated Options A puts him in the same
position he is in today. She said the Council dilemma is how do we get things moving while
negotiations happen. Mr. Luedtke said the project will continue if Council makes it
contingent on a resolution satisfactory to the developer, the Luedtkes and the McDonalds.
Mayor Trude said the City needs a fall back in case they cannot come up with a resolution.
She said the resolution would be on Petersen’s land, and the two owners would have the same
connection as they did before.
Mr. Dickinson said the fall back Option A gets the property owners access to their property.
He stated the City does not like the plan, but it gives them access and allows snowplows and
firetrucks to get through. Mr. Dickinson said the lot will still be a legal non-conforming lot
and the City would like them to have a conforming lot.
Councilmember Bukkila said she is not interested in Option A if Lot 1 becomes a lot with an
occupied dwelling. She said the City has a lot similar to this and she gets calls weekly
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because of the problems it creates. Councilmember Bukkila said Option A would be an
easement on someone’s property not giving them full access to their own property with the
intention that a road will be built in the future but if it doesn’t, then the individual is stuck
with the easement.
Mayor Trude replied that if the Council went with Option A, the purchasers of Lot 1 would
buy the lot knowing that it is permanent. Mr. Dickinson said the big difference between the
two situations is this is a public easement and the other property referenced is a private
easement. He said the road will be paved to the property line.
Councilmember Bukkila said the reasonable thing to do is delay the decision for 2 weeks until
the Council’s next meeting. Mayor Trude stated she thinks a fall back option is appropriate
because the 60-day deadline is the end of the week. Mr. Dickinson said the City would have
to put in for an extension if the Council does not approve tonight.
Mayor Trude said the parties are going to make a good faith effort to come to a resolution.
Mr. Luedtke thought they did everything right in 1995 and the McDonald’s built their house
in 2017 with access to Jivaro Street. He said they just want everything to be legal so they can
eventually sell their land and the City continues to maintain the road like they did before.
Mayor Trude asked if Mr. Luedtke was acceptable to Option A. Mr. Luedtke replied that he
wants legal counsel to look at it. Mayor Trude asked if he could come to a decision within 2
months before the final plat. Mr. Luedtke replied he thought they could.
Darren McDonald, 16927 Jivaro Street, came forward and said there is deep family history in
this land and wants it to stay in the family. He said they are standing here because of an
easement and he wants Council to fix it so it is not an issue in the future for them or the City.
Mayor Trude said Option A is a fall back option and they have up to 2 months to resolve the
issue to their satisfaction. She stated it gives everyone a deadline and allows the development
to go forward.
Mr. McDonald says he wants to make sure the developer still pursues negotiations. His
concern is that the negotiations will be one sided as they have been so far. Mr. McDonald
asked what compels the developer to work with him in good faith if they get the preliminary
plat approved?
Mayor Trude stated the developer does not like the resolution either and would prefer to reach
a different resolution.
Mr. Dickinson said if they get approval of the preliminary plat and approval of the grading
plan, then the developer can begin grading. He stated during this time and during all
construction phases, the developer is required to provide access to the Luedtke and McDonald
properties.
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Mr. Dickinson stated Lot 1 is not desirable with the easement along the side. He said the
price will be less and the style of house not in par with the rest of the development. He stated
this is not a desirable solution, but it gets everyone the same access they have now. Mr.
Dickinson said he believes there is a better solution and is willing to help the parties resolve it.
Mr. Law said from a grading perspective, choosing an Option has minimal grading impact.
He said the City would look for Option A to be on the plan and if they come to another
solution, the developer can submit a revised plan approved through a change order. He says
the difference is if the connection occurs on the developer’s land or the McDonalds or
Luedtke’s land.
Mayor Trude asked if the parties would have some other options available if the Council
approved the plat. Mr. Law responded they would but by the time the developer puts curb and
paving in, the issue needs to be resolved. Mr. Law said if the Council approved Option A
tonight, the City would look for a plan that included Option A.
Mr. McDonald said there has to be negotiations with give and take.
Mayor Trude said the McDonalds would be given access to their land. She said the options are
to have the connection exactly where it is at now or take the opportunity to improve their
access and have conforming lots. Mr. McDonald said the fact that there is an easement is a
problem. He does not want his kids to have to deal with this in 25 years. Mr. McDonald said
there are parts of each option that are desirable, but they have not had time to look at them in
detail. Mr. McDonald said there are plans that require him to give up land and he does not
want to. He said he would have to give up .5 acres to have the Luedtke’s have access and he
would acquire 2.5 acres of swampland.
Mayor Trude recommend they consult Mr. Dickinson, as he is a great listener and negotiator.
Mr. McDonald said he tried to reach out to the City and the City took a neutral position. He
said the City did not act as a mediator but told them to work it out.
Mayor Trude said Mr. McDonald is in the driver’s seat on where the access it. She said the
Council cannot pick one of the options outside of the plat. Mr. McDonald said he appreciates
the developer paying for the legal fees and costs of the access; however, he has already spent a
lot. He said two years ago they should have dealt with this access and it wouldn’t be an issue
today. Mr. McDonald said the developer is not even considering phase 3 and 4 without taking
into consideration of what it does to the rest of the area. He said Phase 1 only has one access
point because due diligence was not done, and due diligence is not being done now to give
him access to his property without him giving something up.
Mayor Trude replied that is why the developer presented the Options A and B because none
of it is on the McDonald or Luedtke property and it gives him a 25-foot wide road instead of
18 feet. She said everything else on the McDonald property is his decision. Mayor Trude
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stated if he wants to improve his situation, he will need to negotiate with the developer. She
stated the Council cannot choose one of the options involving the Luedtke or McDonald
properties because it is private land off the plat. Mr. McDonald said the Council controls
where the access will be. Mayor Trude responded the connection will be exactly where it is
now with Options A and B and if he chooses a different option, it will need to be a private
agreement.
Mr. McDonald said he does not like any of the options and that is why they want more time to
look at it. He said he does not think the developer can work with him to get him what he
wants because of the density of Phase 2. He said the developer will not give up a lot to give
him what he wants.
Mayor Trude said lot lines can move between preliminary and final plat but to give up a lot is
a big gift. She said the developer is willing to work with the families to give them a better
option.
Mr. Law informed Council that Option A is the only one that does not require land from the
Luedtkes or the McDonalds. He said Option B would need a slight corner of around 500
square feet from McDonald.
Mr. Dickinson summarized the choices the Council could make regarding Items 12 and 13:
approve with selecting Option A or Option B and encourage the parties to come up with
another solution; table and review in 2 weeks; or deny the preliminary plat. He explained the
preliminary plat needs to show a viable access point to the north and allow for a deviation if
another solution is found.
Councilmember Butler asked when the Council reviews the final plat, can they hear if the
developer fulfilled the commitment of keeping options on the table and negotiating another
resolution. Mr. Dickinson replied there would be an expectation of a report card to ensure
they have fulfilled their commitment.
Councilmember Butler said the lot lines can shift between preliminary and final plat. Mr.
Dickinson stated it has to conform closely to the original and there cannot be significant
deviations, but minor ones are acceptable. Councilmember Butler said Council wants to
ensure equal or better access to the properties and ideally lot conformity. He said he is
concerned that Option A and B would not make the lots conforming.
Mr. Lazan stated today there is an 18-foot easement and what is proposed is 66-foot public
right-of-way, paved, with all utilities with a 200-foot public easement which is significantly
better than what the property owners have now. He said Inca Street cannot be shifted.
Mayor Trude asked if the Council tabled, where would it put the developer. Mr. Lazan said it
would put them in a tough spot because there are a number of things they have to do between
preliminary and closing in order to break ground on the 16th.
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Mayor Trude asked if they would still negotiate in good faith. Mr. Lazan said there are two
items: what can occur on the Petersen land and what can occur on the Luedtke and McDonald
land. He said a year ago they talked about a land swap because that was the only way they
could resolve it and the McDonald’s had no interest. Mr. Lazan said he does not like Option
A, but it is the only option they have that does not utilize property from the Luedtkes or
McDonalds. He said they are committed to finding something that works.
Mayor Trude asked if the developer will still continue to negotiate if the Council approves the
preliminary plat. Mr. Lazan said absolutely, without a doubt, or they will be back here for
final plat answering to the City Council.
Councilmember Bukkila stated her preference is to table it for two weeks. She said every
time one of them come up to talk, the other is shaking their head. She said there is an absence
of communication because Option A and B were just presented tonight. She said no one likes
the options but Council is looking for approval. Councilmember Bukkila said a two-week
delay will motivate the parties to negotiate. She said if she had to vote right now, she would
choose a denial.
Mayor Trude said the proposal that would keep things moving, is to choose an option and
allow it to be replaced if another solution is reached.
Councilmember Butler said he understands tabling it to buy more time, but he feels if they
table it, they will be back here in two weeks discussing the same things. He stated they had a
robust discussion and prefers to move forward with Option A and a clear expectation another
access is desired along with achieving conformity of the two lots. Councilmember Butler said
the Council will have a review at the final plat to determine if the expectations have been
fulfilled.
Councilmember Holthus stated she agrees and stressed that access to the northern properties is
to be solved before approving the final plat.
Councilmember Barthel said if Council chooses Option A, the Luedtke’s and McDonald’s
access stays the same. He said Option A is not good for either of them. Councilmember
Barthel said that private property should not hold up development because it could lock it
forever. He said he favors approving the preliminary plat and giving time for the parties to
talk and if they cannot agree, then Option A is the resolution.
Councilmember Bukkila asked if there can be consideration to hold back development on Lot
1 until an agreement is reached. Mr. Janish said a building permit is not issued until the final
plat is approved. Councilmember Bukkila stated she wants to ensure the developer will
negotiate in good faith and wants to hold Lot 1 to make sure it happens. Mayor Trude asked if
it makes sense to add that condition. Mr. Janish replied the Council has the ability to do that.
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Mr. Dickinson said the public easement with Option A will have a more severe setback on Lot
1 due to a paved road. He said there are restrictions to protect the home and keep a distance
from the roadway.
Mr. Lazan said they have about 8 weeks between preliminary and final plat. He said if the
Council wants to hold Lot 1, the developer will agree because they are not going to hold back
their development for one lot. He said the best solution is going to be a land swap between
the developer and the northern landowners, so he is optimistic that Option A will not come to
fruition.
Mr. Luedtke said Option A was a surprise to him and he just saw it tonight. He asked when
Jivaro Street will be vacated and who is going to do it. Mr. Law replied the developer’s
intention is to leave Jivaro Street in place until Inca Street is paved and ready to go. He said it
is a requirement to provide access to the northern properties at all times.
Councilmember Bukkila asked if Council was at a reasonable point for the Luedtkes to
continue to negotiate. Mr. Luedtke replied yes, they are.
Mayor Trude stated the final plat will not be considered until November 4th.
Councilmember Butler said he understands the emotions and said the area is beautiful. He
stated the goal is to maintain equal or better access and ensure the property rights of the
Petersens as well. He said he takes holding everyone accountable at the final plat seriously.
Mr. Janish said the applicant would be open to restricting permits on Lots 1-4 until the final
plat and said that can be added as a condition on the PUD and preliminary plat.
Mayor Trude summarized that Council will approve the preliminary plat with Option A and
the expectation that the developer and north property owners will negotiate another option
before the final plat is approved.
Motion by Barthel, Seconded by Bukkila to remove Item #12 from the table. The motion
carried unanimously.
Council reached consensus to add Condition #20: to restrict building permits on Lots 1-4,
Block 3 until after final plat. Council reached consensus to remove Item 4 on Review #1
from the City Engineer’s Comments.
Mayor Trude stated the Council’s intent is to not require access to the south in order to move
forward with the development. She said the City cannot require a condition off the plat.
Motion by Holthus, Seconded by Bukkila to approve Resolution R066-20 approving
Conditional Use Permit (CUP)/Planned Unit Development (PUD) Amendment with the
changes listed above, “The Preserve at Petersen Farms” Phase 2 - PIDs 07-32-24-42-0002, 07-
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32-24-43-0003, 07-32-24-34-0002, 07-32-24-34-0003, 07-32-24-33-0001, 07-32-24-31-0001,
07-32-24-32-0001, 07-32-24-23-0002, 07-32-24-24-0001 – JD Andover Holdings. Motion
carried unanimously.
Mayor Trude asked Mr. Baumgartner to read the condition Council is adding to the
Resolution. Mr. Baumgartner stated Condition #13: The Preliminary Plat is approved with
Option A, providing access to the property immediately to the north with the understanding
that the final plat may be modified with alternative access as to the property north if that
option is agreed upon by the developer, the property owners to the north and the City at the
time of final plat approval.
Council reached consensus to add Condition #13 to the Resolution and remove Item 4 on
Review #1 from the City Engineer’s Comments.
Motion by Bukkila, Seconded by Barthel, to approve Resolution R067-20 approving
Preliminary Plat as typed and amended including condition #20 - The Meadows at Petersen
Farms (46 Single Family Rural Lots) - PIDs: 07-32-24-42-0002, 07-32-24-43-0003, 07-32-24-
31-0001, 07-32-24-34-0002 - JD Andover Holdings. Motion carried unanimously.
COVID 19 UPDATE
City Administrator Dickinson updated the Council on the primary changes to the COVID-19
response since the last meeting. He stated the Governor has extended the Executive Order
until September 11, 2020. Mr. Dickinson stated staff are working on CARES Act dollars and
the EDA has committed $1.8 million for small business grants. He said Round 1 applications
have been reviewed and discussed by the EDA and $990,000 in grant funds have been
approved. Mr. Dickinson stated that Round 2 of grant applications starts September 2nd with
an application deadline of September 16th. He said if all dollars are not used, the City will
have a Round 3. Mr. Dickinson indicated the City is complying with the Governor’s
Executive Order for sports at the Community Center. He said the City has made
modifications to the usage of facilities and will be hosting candidate forums.
ADMINISTRATOR’S REPORT
City Staff updated the Council on the administration and city department activities, legislative
updates, updates on development/CIP projects, and meeting reminders/community events.
(Administrative Staff Activities) – Mr. Dickinson stated Andover has 84 new home permits
this year. Mr. Dickinson updated the Council on the budget, CIP, and insurance negotiations.
He said he is working on staffing needs and enhancing staff training. Mr. Dickinson reminded
Council of the ribbon cutting ceremony at Margie’s Kitchen on Friday, September 4th. Mr.
Dickinson requested the EDA meeting be cancelled on September 15th and a workshop
meeting be added to discuss the budget.
Motion by Barthel, Seconded by Butler to cancel the EDA meeting and schedule a budget
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workshop at 6:00 p.m. on September 15, 2020. The motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Dickinson updated the Council on the progress of the Community Center and Sports
Complex construction and said the grand opening is planned for October.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
(Fish Sunflowers) Mayor Trude stated Fish Sunflowers has a field across from Prairie Knoll
– Park. She said it is on private land, but people can park in the park’s lot and walk carefully
across the street. She said there will be another location in Andover and the location will be
revealed on the Fish Sunflower Facebook page.
(Mrs. Minnesota) Mayor Trude announced Andover resident, Jessica Koehler was crowned
Mrs. Minnesota and will be in the Mrs. America Pageant, promoting her platform for
Minnesota Adult and Teen Challenge, mentoring women in recovery.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Barthel, Seconded by Butler, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The
meeting adjourned at 10:53 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Shari Kunza, Recording Secretary
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES – SEPTEMBER 1, 2020
TABLE OF CONTENTS
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE..........................................................................................................1
PROCLAMATION – DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH................................... 1
RESIDENT FORUM.......................................................................................................................1
AGENDA APPROVAL.................................................................................................................. 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES........................................................................................................... 1
CONSENT ITEMS..........................................................................................................................2
Item 2 Approve Payment of Claims.............................................................................................2
Item 3 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-14, 2020 Mill & Overlay - Jay Street NW
(R059-20)..........................................................................................................................2
Item 4 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-15, 2020 Mill & Overlay - Martin Street NW
(R060-20)..........................................................................................................................2
Item 5 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-16, 2020 Mill & Overlay - Woodland Estates
1st & 2nd Additions (R061-20).......................................................................................... 2
Item 6 Award Bid/20-17/Public Works Pavement Reconstruction (R062-20)............................2
Item 7 Approve Amendment/l6-39B/2018 Comp Plan Update/Transportation.......................... 2
Item 8 Accept Contribution/CenterPoint Energy Fire Dept. Equipment (R063-20)................... 2
Item 9 Adopt Resolution Accepting CARES Act Grant Funding for Elections (R064-20)........ 2
Item 10 Rescind Resolution R056-20 and Approve Resolution for Vacation of Drainage and
Utility Easements and Acceptance of New Drainage and Utility Easements - 16523
Orchid Street NW/3290 165th Lane NW (R065-20).........................................................2
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT RENAMING A STREET IN
SHADOWBROOK NORTH (Ord. 212I).........................................................................2
CONSIDER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (CUP)/PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
(PUD) AMENDMENT - "THE PRESERVE AT PETERSEN FARMS" PHASE 2 -
PIDS 07-32-24-42-0002, 07-32-24-43-0003, 07-32-24-34-0002, 07-32-24-34-0003, 07-
32-24-33-0001, 07-32-24-31-0001, 07-32-24-32-0001, 07-32-24-23-0002, 07-32-24-
24-0001 - JD ANDOVER HOLDINGS (R066-20)..........................................................2
CONSIDER PRELIMINARY PLAT - THE MEADOWS AT PETERSEN FARMS (46 -
SINGLE FAMILY RURAL LOTS) - PIDS: 07-32-24-42-0002, 07-32-24-43-0003, 07-
32-24-31-0001, 07-32-24-34-0002 - JD ANDOVER HOLDINGS (R067-20)................7
COVID 19 UPDATE.....................................................................................................................16
ADMINISTRATOR’S REPORT.................................................................................................. 16
(Administrative Staff Activities)................................................................................................... 16
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT.........................................................................................................16
(Fish Sunflowers) .......................................................................................................................... 16
(Mrs. Minnesota) .......................................................................................................................... 17
ADJOURNMENT......................................................................................................................... 17
Agenda
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Regular City Council Meeting – Tuesday, September 1, 2020
Call to Order – 7:00 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Proclamation – Domestic Violence Awareness Month
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
1. Approval of Minutes (8/18/20 Regular)
Consent Items
2. Approve Payment of Claims – Finance
3. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-14, 2020 Mill & Overlay-Jay Street NW - Engineering
4. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-15, 2020 Mill & Overlay-Martin Street NW - Engineering
5. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/20-16, 2020 Mill & Overlay-Woodland Estates 1st & 2nd Additions -
Engineering
6. Award Bid/20-17/Public Works Pavement Reconstruction – Engineering
7. Approve Amendment/16-39B/2018 Comp Plan Update/Transportation - Engineering
8. Accept Contribution/CenterPoint Energy Fire Dept. Equipment – Fire
9. Adopt Resolution Accepting CARES Act Grant Funding for Elections – Administration
10. Rescind Resolution R056-20 and Approve Resolution for Vacation of Drainage and Utility Easements and
Acceptance of New Drainage and Utility Easements– 16523 Orchid Street NW / 3290 165th Lane NW –
Planning
Discussion Items
11. Consider Approval of an Ordinance Amendment Renaming a Street in Shadowbrook North - Planning
12. Consider Conditional Use Permit (CUP) / Planned Unit Development (PUD) Amendment – “The Preserve
at Petersen Farms” phase 2 – PIDS 07-32-24-42-0002, 07-32-24-43-0003, 07-32-24-34-0002, 07-32-24-34-
0003, 07-32-24-33-0001, 07-32-24-31-0001, 07-32-24-32-0001, 07-32-24-23-0002, 07-32-24-24-0001 – JD
Andover Holdings - Planning
13. Consider Preliminary Plat – The Meadows at Petersen Farms (46 – single family rural lots) – PIDS: 07-32-
24-42-0002, 07-32-24-43-0003, 07-32-24-31-0001, 07-32-24-34-0002 – JD Andover Holdings - Planning
Staff Items
14. Emergency Response (COVID-19) Update - Administration
15. Administrator Report – Administration
Mayor/Council Input
Adjournment
Note:
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regular meeting place at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, MN 55304.
Members of the public can physically attend, although there is very limited seating in the City Council
Chambers as appropriate social distancing will be done by the Council and visitors.
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