City Council
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · January 25, 2022
Minutes
ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING – JANUARY 25, 2022
MINUTES
The Workshop Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Sheri
Bukkila, January 25, 2022 at 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd NW,
Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present remotely: Valerie Holthus, Jamie Barthel, Ted Butler, and Randy
Nelson
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Administrator Jim Dickinson
City Engineer/Public Works Director David Berkowitz
City Planner Joe Janish
Others
DISCUSS MULTI-FAMILY PROPOSAL AT CROSSTOWN BLVD AND HANSON
The City Council is requested to consider a potential senior multi-housing development at
Crosstown Boulevard and Hanson. Mr. Janish reviewed the concerns of the Council at the
previous meeting: the height of four stories and the loss of commercial space. Mr. Janish
explained the developer has incorporated commercial into their building.
Jack Collins, Executive Vice President of SilverCrest, came forward and thanked the Council for
hearing their updated proposal.
Michael F. Gould, President of SilverCrest, came forward and explained the mission of their
business. He noted he would like to build a residence in Andover and become part of the
community.
Rich Lee, Premier Commercial Real Estate, a commercial broker stated the market cannot
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support a chain business. He noted there is interest from smaller businesses but doesn’t believe
they could afford the rent. He explained a restaurant could take up most of the square footage
and if they couldn’t get a restaurant, it could accommodate 4-5 smaller businesses focusing on
professional services.
Mr. Gould stated the property is planned to have a right-in, right-out access which limits
commercial properties. Mr. Dickinson displayed a drawing of the proposal and identified access
points and parking.
Mr. Gould stated a restaurant will work, but it just needs to be the right kind of restaurant that
would close around 9 p.m.
Councilmember Butler stated his concern was the complete shift from commercial to residential.
He stated he likes the commercial aspect presented but does not want to regret giving up on
commercial at this location.
Mr. Lee stated the land has been developable for quite a while and hasn’t received much interest.
He noted that it could be sitting vacant for several more years. Mayor Bukkila stated the cost of
the parcel was higher than market rate. Mr. Lee stated the City has the opportunity to have both
commercial and residential.
Mr. Collins stated the wellness center is open to the public and includes a pool, fitness area,
classes, locker rooms, and therapy space. He stated the bistro is open to the public as well. Mr.
Collins stated they will employ around 70 full-time employees.
Councilmember Holthus asked for an explanation of the difference between the wellness center
and what the YMCA can offer. Mr. Collins stated the two facilities are very different. He
pointed out their facility in Maple Grove that is near the community center and a Lifetime
Fitness. He stated seniors couldn’t wait to use the new facility because they are with people their
own age and feel more comfortable. Mr. Gould stated the pool temperature is significantly
warmer. Mr. Collins stated staff are available to help acclimate seniors to the wellness center.
Councilmember Nelson stated Andover is going to need more commercial as it grows. He also
has a concern with the height of the building. He stated there can be more commercial in the
area. Councilmember Nelson stated it will get a lot of activity from the Community Center and
schools.
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Mr. Collins stated Andover is also in demand for senior living. He understands there is a need for
commercial and their company is trying to solve both demands.
Mr. Lee stated he agrees it is a good corner, but the density is not high enough in the area. He
stated most commercial properties want to be further south by Bunker Lake Blvd.
Mr. Dickinson noted poor access makes it difficult for commercial properties. He stated
integrating commercial into the building rather than as a standalone helps with flow and access.
Councilmember Barthel stated he understands it is not feasible for a commercial development at
this time. He stated the property does not need to be developed in 2022. He stated it is the
City’s long-range goal to make it commercial. Councilmember Barthel stated the community is
asking for commercial. He does not believe the neighborhood would approve of a four-story
building and he would receive phone calls from them.
Mr. Lee stated the land is not too expensive, but in his professional opinion, it is suited for a
combination of residential and commercial.
Mr. Collins noted that SilverCrest works with the community when developing a project. Mr.
Gould stated they would make a presentation to the community and share their vision. Mr. Lee
stated they would look at a restaurant first and if that didn’t work, they would search for smaller
commercial businesses.
Councilmember Butler stated he is warmer to this proposal than the one first one. He is pleased
to hear a restaurant is a priority. He understands bringing in rooftops with commercial helps
make it more successful. Councilmember Butler would like to hear input from the public and
asked how SilverCrest would go about gathering public input. Mr. Collins stated they would
hold a public meeting and make a presentation promoting their facility. Mr. Gould stated they
would attend a public hearing to hear and address concerns. Councilmember Butler would like to
cast a wider net than the required 350 feet of the development.
Councilmember Holthus stated she likes the addition of commercial and she has seen the for-sale
sign on the lot for almost 30 years. She stated she is ready for something to happen on that
corner. She would like to have a neighborhood meeting to hear input from the residents.
Councilmember Nelson doesn’t think 8,000 to 13,000 square feet of commercial is enough. He
knows that residents aren’t in favor of a four-story building. He would like to wait for a proposal
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with more commercial.
Mayor Bukkila stated she likes the concept and seniors like a walkable community. She thinks
the proposal adds a lot to the residents in the community. Mayor Bukkila stated the Council is
pressured to do high density residential and the 55+ is a preferred age group to target. She stated
she likes the commercial aspect but doesn’t know if the community will support four stories.
Mayor Bukkila would like to see the transition from residential to high-density residential. Mr.
Gould stated they can scale things down if needed and will involve the neighborhood.
Councilmember Holthus asked if Arbor Oaks is fully occupied. Mr. Dickinson stated the
assisted living is full, market rate is full, and Grey Oaks does not appear to have any rentals
available. Mr. Collins stated Andover has a high demand for senior living.
Councilmember Butler stated he has concerns about the building height, but understands it gets
more units with better amenities. He asked if they could show a depiction of what residents
would see out of their backyards. Mr. Gould stated he would like to take them on a tour of their
Maple Grove site.
Mr. Berkowitz requested they look at an outdoor pickleball facility. Mr. Berkowitz asked if they
could ghost out additional commercial on the property so if the demand were there, they could
expand. Mr. Gould stated it would be difficult to build additional commercial on the site.
Mayor Bukkila polled the Council on who was an absolutely against and for the project.
Councilmember Barthel was against the project. Councilmember Holthus is for the project, and
the rest are undecided but not a definite no.
Mr. Dickinson stated the next step is for the developer to conduct a neighborhood meeting.
DISCUSS PINE HILLS NORTH AND PINE HILLS SOUTH PARKING LOT PAVING/22-
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The City Council is requested to discuss the design of the Pine Hills North and Pine Hills South
parking lots and provide direction to staff on the concrete ribbon curb. Mr. Berkowitz noted the
Pine Hills parking lot will encroach into the right-of-way. Mr. Berkowitz stated they typically
setback park parking lots 20 feet based on the City’s commercial standards. Mr. Janish stated
there is an exception in the Code that allows Council to encroach into the right of way through a
Consent Agenda item. The Council reached consensus to allow the encroachment.
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Mr. Berkowitz stated parks have varied from concrete ribbon curb and does not see a need for
ribbon curb at these parks. He stated the concrete curb will cost around $120,000 and the total
project cost is $467,000.
Councilmember Nelson asked if it is easier to plow with a curb. Mr. Berkowitz stated they don’t
plow this lot in the winter, but the curb does help.
Mayor Bukkila stated the road leading into the parking lot may break down prematurely due to
people driving on the grass. Mr. Berkowitz suggested installing concrete curb on the driveway
and not in the parking lot. Councilmember Barthel stated he supports concrete curb for the drive.
The Council reached consensus to install concrete curb in the road leading to the parking lot and
in the drive aisles.
DISCUSS VETERANS MEMORIAL CEREMONY
The City Council is requested discuss a dedication ceremony for the Veterans Memorial. Mr.
Berkowitz stated the planning committee has been working out the details of the ceremony and
has selected Saturday, May 21 or Saturday, June 18. The Council reached consensus to hold the
ceremony on Saturday, May 21 on Armed Forces Day.
Mr. Berkowitz stated the committee would like the ceremony at the Memorial and to close down
Veterans Memorial Boulevard. They would like to have food trucks and a social hour afterwards
in the vehicle maintenance facility with City funds or donations.
Mayor Bukkila stated an indoor reception could include cake, coffee, and lemonade. She stated
the families of the veterans could display a picture and a story.
The Council reached consensus to limit the reception to food trucks, cake, coffee, and lemonade.
Mr. Berkowitz stated the committee will work out the rest of the details.
Mr. Berkowitz stated they have had trouble selling plaques. He asked how hard staff should
pursue donations to expand the memorial with statues. Mayor Bukkila stated the community
event can be a fundraiser for the site. She recommended advertising in the Community Center.
Councilmember Holthus stated it would be nice to have a parking lot. Councilmember Barthel
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agreed. Mr. Berkowitz stated there won’t be parking available. Councilmember Barthel stated it
would be nice to have three or four parking spaces.
Councilmember Barthel stated he plans to write an article for the newsletter about Veterans
Memorial. He asked for additional details about the ceremony and he can include it in the
article.
Mr. Berkowitz asked the Council to commit to a budget. The Council reached consensus to
allocate up to $5000 to the event.
DISCUSS MARTIN STREET NW ACCESS OFF BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD NW
The City Council is requested to discuss the proposed Martin Street NW/Walmart access off
Bunker Lake Boulevard NW. Mr. Berkowitz stated the County has come up with a proposal to
improve the entrance. He stated the County is planning on moving the median two feet and will
do a full mill and overlay of the section of improvement. The cost of the project is estimated at
$200,000 and the County has asked the City to contribute to the project. Mr. Berkowitz stated
staff are recommending 25% of the project cost up to a max of $50,000. Mr. Berkowitz outlined
the improvements the County has planned and displayed a drawing. Mr. Dickinson stated the
Met Council has allocated $119,000 to the City and the contribution can come out of those funds.
The Council reached consensus to pay 25% of the cost up to $50,000.
RECESS & RECONVENE
Mayor Bukkila recessed the meeting at 7:35 p.m. The meeting was reconvened at 7:45 pm.
DISCUSS PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCESS
The City Council is requested to discuss the preliminary plat process and the amount of time it
takes for staff to get plan reviews done in a timely fashion. Mr. Berkowitz explained the
preliminary plat process has evolved over time. He stated staff review it down to the minute
details and the pressure to get reviews done is intense. City staff is asking Council to scale down
the number of required items and have them be conditional during the preliminary plat review.
Mr. Berkowitz stated the large, important items will be completed and staff will make sure the
details are resolved before the plans are stamped approved.
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Mr. Dickinson stated many purchase agreements are tied to the preliminary plat approval. Mr.
Berkowitz stated the City is developer-friendly and move as fast as they can. Mr. Janish stated
staff will continue make sure all the conditions are met, however, the Planning and Zoning
Commission and the City Council will see a longer list of conditions.
Mr. Janish explained the preliminary plat process:
Applicant submits the application
The Andover Review Committee has 14 days to make comments on the application.
Staff compiles the comments and sends back to the applicant. 14 days. City Code states
the list is not completed until all the requirements are met.
The City and the applicant exchange comments and solutions for 60 days and can have 4-
6 rounds before the majority of comments are addressed. The 60 days can be extended to
120 days.
When majority of items are addressed, a public hearing is scheduled with the Planning
Commission and then placed on the next Council meeting.
Once Council acts on the preliminary plat, the timelines are not in effect, and it falls
under an administrative process.
Staff are recommending primary items to be required under the 15-day review and the remainder
as conditional items:
Preliminary plat info
Geological technical report
Stormwater report
Mr. Janish stated if core items are missing, the application goes back to applicant as incomplete.
He explained if all items are present, then the comment review begins giving staff at least two
reviews until a public hearing.
Mr. Berkowitz stated most other cities use this method. He stated Andover’s sketch plan is
similar to other cities’ preliminary plat.
Councilmember Holthus asked what can be done at the sketch plan phase to make it more
expedient. Mr. Berkowitz stated it depends on the scope of the project. Mr. Janish stated a
sketch plan is required for a PUD. The preliminary plat allows the developer to begin grading.
Mr. Dickinson stated the preliminary plat gives the developer a legal right over the property. He
noted that Council will see an increase in staff comments. He stated there are multiple
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developments coming through which are driving this change. Mr. Dickinson stated this method
will protect the City.
Mr. Janish stated the preliminary plat checklist is an internal document. If Council has an issue
with seeing longer lists of conditional items, then this isn’t the route to go.
Mayor Bukkila asked if they can move forward with this process and if there are issues, add
items to back to the core. Mr. Berkowitz stated Council can add items to the core if needed.
Councilmember Butler asked if they could add items on a case-by-case basis and Mr. Berkowitz
replied, absolutely. Mr. Berkowitz stated the sketch plan helps the process move along faster.
Councilmember Holthus stated Council can see up to 75 comments. Mr. Berkowitz stated
Council has seen that many comments in the past with a project that needed to be pushed
through.
The Council reached consensus to move forward with the proposed process.
DISCUSS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING
The City Council is requested to discuss how to apply funds from the American Rescue Plan Act
(ARPA) in the amount of $3.6 million. Mr. Dickinson provided a proposal for how to use the
money. He explained the Federal Government proposed a standard allowance for cities getting
less than $10 million. The City completed the lost revenue computation for the City and the
amount is $1.2 million. Mr. Dickinson stated the City will be using their auditor to audit the
funds. He noted the City has more flexibility with accepting the standard allocation and stated
the items where it can be used. He announced road building and maintenance has been added.
The funds must be spent by the end of 2024. Mr. Dickinson noted transparency is possible with
the standard allocation. Mr. Dickinson stated the Met Council is looking at simpler ways to
allocate their funds and they have distributed funds to the City in the amount of $119,000 to go
towards roads.
The Council reached consensus to accept the standard allocation from ARPA.
PRE-AUDIT DECEMBER 2021 COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE
The City Council is requested to review the Andover Community Center (ACC) budget
summary report for 2021. Mr. Dickinson stated the ACC is at 103% of revenue and 80% on
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budgeted expenses. He stated adequate staffing has been a challenge, so they were below in
personnel costs. He noted staff are overworked and cannot maintain this workload. Mr.
Dickinson stated he is looking for 1.0 FTE to be added to the Community Center.
Mayor Bukkila asked if they are replacing part-time position and adding an FTE. Mr. Dickinson
stated that is his plan.
The Council reached consensus to add a 1.0 FTE to the ACC.
PRE-AUDIT DECEMBER 2021 GENERAL FUND BUDGET PROGRESS REPORT
The City Council is requested to review the pre-audit General Fund Progress Report. Mr.
Dickinson stated revenue is at 104% and expenditures is at 93%. He pointed out a few areas that
were under budget and over budget and explained the difference.
OTHER ITEMS
Mayor Bukkila asked when the City is going to start actively planning for Emergency
Management. Mr. Dickinson stated staff is working with Anoka County Emergency
Management to start getting National Incident Management System (NIMS) training set up for
staff and Councilmembers. Mayor Bukkila asked if they were working with the Department of
Homeland Security and risk assessments. Mr. Dickinson stated he wished he had the time.
Mayor Bukkila explained the NIMS training is mostly online and there are courses for elected
officials in addition to staff.
Councilmember Butler stated he would like to discuss the Parks and Open Space Commissions’
roles and names to see if they should be adjusted. Mayor Bukkila stated staff can review the
Commissions’ roles and add it to a workshop meeting. Councilmember Butler would like to
shift how the land was acquired to how does the public use it.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Barthel, seconded by Nelson, to adjourn the meeting at 8:32 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
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City Council Workshop
Tuesday, January 25, 2022
City Hall – Conference Rooms A & B
1. Call to Order – 6:00 p.m.
2. Discuss Multi-Family proposal at Crosstown Blvd. and Hanson – Administration/Planning
3. Discuss Pine Hills North & Pine Hills South Parking Lot Paving/22-18 – Engineering
4. Discuss Veterans Memorial Ceremony – Engineering
5. Discuss Martin Street NW Access off Bunker Lake Boulevard BW - Engineering
6. Discuss Preliminary Plat Process – Planning/Engineering
7. Discuss American Rescue Plan Act Funding – Administration
8. Pre-Audit December 2021 Community Center Update – Administration
9. Pre-Audit December 2021 General Fund Budget Progress Report – Administration
10. Other Topics
11. Adjournment
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