City Council
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · May 23, 2023
Minutes
ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING – MAY 23, 2023
MINUTES
The Workshop Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Bukkila, May
23, 2023, 6:00 p.m., at the Andover Community Center Sports Complex, Conference Room A.
Councilmembers present: Jamie Barthel, Ted Butler, Rick Engelhardt, and Randy Nelson
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Administrator Jim Dickinson
Recreational Facilities Manager, Erick Sutherland
Others
TOUR OF ANDOVER COMMUNITY CENTER
The City Council will tour the Andover Community Center at the end of the meeting.
APRIL 2023 COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE
Mr. Sutherland reviewed items concerning the Andover Community Center. He discussed items
that are currently being replaced, including the dehumidification unit for the original ice arena, as
well as the original heating. He added that they are also working on the hot water system which is
a shared cost with the YMCA. He highlighted the other projects they are working on.
Mr. Dickinson explained they are looking at different cost-saving options for some of these items.
Councilmember Nelson asked the cost for the new air conditioning units in the concession area.
Mr. Sutherland explained if they were to just replace the compressors it would cost $40,000-
$50,000 and if they were to replace the whole unit it would be about $150,000.
Councilmember Nelson asked how many air conditioning units are on top. Mr. Sutherland stated
there are 6 units that are the City’s responsibility, and the others are the responsibility of the
YMCA.
Councilmember Barthel asked if there is an opportunity for some solar panels on the roof to help
reduce energy costs. Mr. Dickinson stated this is being looked at with the roof replacement, which
is the logical time to look at something like this. He noted they would default to the Council if this
was something they wanted to pursue. Councilmember Barthel stated it is worth looking at if there
is a return on investment for energy savings. Councilmember Nelson questioned if the roof may
not be able to handle the weight.
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Councilmember Nelson asked when they are looking at putting in a new roof. Mr. Sutherland
stated lots of roof maintenance, caulking and repatching was done last summer to extend the roof
life. He added it is identified in the CIP for 2028.
Mr. Sutherland noted the east parking lot is a shared project with the YMCA.
2024-2028 CIP DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION - COMMUNITY CENTER
Mr. Dickinson stated they are reviewing the CIP so when they are on the tour of the facility the
Council will see what they are proposing.
Mr. Sutherland explained the roof has been dripping and they had to call maintenance about the
drips throughout the winter which can shut down the fieldhouse courts and facilities. He noted
they are trying to get the most time out of the roof as they can before it needs to be replaced.
Councilmember Nelson asked how many years the roof was given when the roof was first built.
Mr. Sutherland stated it was around 20-25 years.
Mr. Sutherland shared another large budgetary item which is staffing. He noted he is amazed by
the amount of people using the facility after the expansion. He shared in 2022 the facility checked
in more than 14,000 to the track, which is only during the week. Councilmember Nelson asked if
all of those people using the track are Andover residents. Mr Sutherland stated anyone who comes
that is not an Andover resident is charged. He added nights and weekends are free.
Mr. Sutherland explained that salaries have gone up and they gave raises to all of the part-time
staff to get applicants to apply and stay in their role.
Councilmember Barthel asked if they are now at a point of optimization of staffing the facility.
Mr. Sutherland stated they are in good shape as far as staffing goes, as the whole crew is great. He
noted at this time of the year they are looking to cut hours for the summer. He stated there is always
someone at the front desk.
Mr. Sutherland mentioned they have moved to an online staffing scheduling system that helps to
visualize the schedule. He noted that $50,000 was added to the part-time budget this year from last
year. He stated that the facility is so busy that they need all of these staff members.
Councilmember Barthel asked how the pro shop is doing since moving into the new space. Mr.
Sutherland explained it has done great since moving over. He added they have increased all of the
prices in the shop and has been very strong.
Mr. Sutherland stated the concession lease has been $850 a month and with the revenue sharing
they were bringing in approximately $2,500 monthly check from the concessions over the winter
months.
Councilmember Barthel asked if there has been an attitude adjustment since Subway has left and
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there is now something that is more geared towards kids in its place. Mr. Sutherland stated it has
been really great and they have gotten amazing feedback on this. Subway did great, but a change
was good.
Mr. Sutherland stated as part of the staffing expenses they will be coming to the Council with new
facility rates. He noted the Minnesota Ice Arena Managers Association did an annual survey and
traditionally the ice rates are raised by $3-$5 a month. He proposed that they raise the rate by
$10.00 an hour on prime and non-prime times for the ice rink, $5.00 an hour for the gym, and
raising all of the rates for open play for things like pickleball and skating.
Councilmember Barthel stated these rinks are so much nicer than other facilities in the surrounding
areas. He noted a premium can be charged at this facility because it is a premium product.
Mr. Sutherland stated at Crosstown Boulevard and Tower Drive there are lots of different signs
and he would love to see better signage that looks cleaner and more grand. Mr. Dickinson stated
with the roundabout they may be able to change the signage and everything that is on Crosstown
Boulevard is what is allowed by the County.
OTHER TOPICS
Mr. Dickinson noted Juneteenth will be a State holiday in 2023 once the bill receives the
Governor's signature that no public business should be done; however, they already have rentals
for that day. He also noted they will need to change their ordinances based on the cannabis
legislation. He stated this will have to be set up as a zoning process. He noted they have 500-foot
buffers identified for parks. He stated there are lots of questions that will go along with this, and
they are waiting to receive definitions for a number of things in this legislation.
Councilmember Barthel asked if they could stay at around three licenses for the City. Mr.
Dickinson said yes and they will likely never get high enough in population to justify a fourth
license.
Mr. Dickinson stated a developer is looking to put 18 rental townhomes on the Sloth property that
is 2.54 acres. He stated he told the applicant that the Council would likely not be interested in this,
the Council concurred.
Mr. Sutherland noted the Mayor came in and spent some time at the facility and they had to make
some decisions for the after-school timeframe of 3-5 p.m. He noted the YMCA is supposed to
oversee and staff this program, which has been a challenge. He added they have worked hard to
coordinate this with the YMCA; however, there still needs to be a discussion on funding and
staffing of this. Mayor Bukkila stated she has no tolerance for there being an expectation for the
City Staff to take whatever level of volume, profanity, or disrespect. She stated that customer
service only goes so far and if people are going to act out in the facility, they can leave the facility.
Mr. Sutherland stated it is an issue with the age group of middle school aged kids. Mr. Dickinson
stated this is a problem anywhere these kids go. Mr. Sutherland stated they run across quite a bit
of vandalism in the restrooms.
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Mr. Sutherland stated he is hopeful that this will improve over the summer. Mr. Dickinson added
they want to make sure that they are welcoming to the kids who want to be here who are being
respectful and following the rules. He suggested adding signage with some rules to reinforce these
things. Mr. Sutherland stated most of the kids who come through are very respectful. He noted
there were a few kids who were removed for the rest of the school after issues with the YMCA
and the Community Center. Mr. Dickinson stated they can utilize the afterschool programming
money to help with this.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Barthel, Seconded by Butler, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The workshop
meeting adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ava Rokosz, Recording Secretary
Agenda
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City Council Workshop
Tuesday, May 23, 2023
Andover Community Center Sports Complex, Conference Room A.
1. Call to Order – 6:00 p.m.
2. Tour of Andover Community Center - Community Center
3. April 2023 Community Center Update – Administration
4. 2024-2028 CIP Development Discussion - Community Center – Administration
5. Other Topics
6. Adjournment
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