City Council
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · July 31, 2023
Minutes
REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING – JULY 31, 2023
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Acting
Mayor Jamie Barthel, July 31, 2023, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Jamie Barthel, Ted Butler, Rick Engelhardt, and Randy Nelson
Councilmember absent: Mayor Sheri Bukkila
Also present: City Administrator, Jim Dickinson
Community Development Director, Joe Janish
Director of Public Works/City Engineer, David Berkowitz
City Attorney, Scott Baumgartner
Associate Planner, Jake Griffiths
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
RESIDENT FORUM
Merl Prochniak, 2941 141st Avenue NW, came forward and shared that he heard there is a
contaminated well off Crooked Lake Boulevard. He added there are scheduled meetings for Red
Oaks and Crooked Lake and noted he is concerned with what is going on with testing of water in
Andover. He suggested looking at this sooner rather than later as residents are drinking this
contaminated water. He stated the City needs to do better to protect the residents and this needs to
be addressed. He added the priorities in the City may need to be reevaluated and he would give up
his road repair to ensure other residents have safe drinking water.
Mr. Dickinson explained a meeting is being coordinated with the Red Oaks neighborhood. He
noted the mitigation area will be getting improvements in the extension of city water. He stated
the meeting will be to discuss this process and next steps. He shared that in the neighborhood off
Crooked Lake, East Brook Terrace, contaminants were found in private wells. He stated MPCA,
Department of Health, and the EPA are doing a systematic testing of wells in this area and a
targeted mailing will be going out to the area being tested. He added they are also pushing the
MPCA and the EPA to do further testing throughout the community.
Councilmember Nelson added there is also testing being done west of Crooked Lake Boulevard.
Mr. Dickinson noted they are testing and starting to expand beyond the original area. He stated
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this information is rather fluid and the meeting concerns the area east of Crooked Lake Boulevard.
Councilmember Nelson asked if all of the residents in this area were notified by a letter. Mr.
Dickinson said yes and stated there is also information online. He added these meetings will be at
City Hall and also on Zoom.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Motion by Butler, Seconded by Nelson, to approve the Agenda as presented. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
July 18, 2023, Regular Meeting
July 18, 2023, Workshop Meeting
Motion by Nelson, Seconded by Engelhardt, to approve the July 18, 2023, Regular meeting and
Workshop meeting minutes as presented. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT ITEMS
Item 2 Approve Payment of Claims
Item 3 Approve JPA with Anoka County/22-37/Round Lake Blvd. NW Reconstruction
Item 4 Approve Amended Fee Schedule (See Ordinance 555)
Motion by Nelson, Seconded by Butler, to approve of the Consent Agenda as read. Motion carried
unanimously.
CONSIDER INTERIM USE PERMIT (IUP) AMENDMENT - 16045 NIGHTINGALE ST.
NW; PID# 15-32-24-42-0006 - ANDOVER CHRISTIAN CHURCH (APPLICANTS)
Andover Christian Church is requesting an extension of the timeframe to 18 months to remove
subordinate classroom structures on their property. The current permit expires on August 31, 2023.
Mr. Griffiths reviewed the staff report and request from Andover Christian Church to delay the
removal of their temporary classrooms. He noted the applicant is working with their congregation
to secure financing to move plans forward for these improvements. He noted the Planning and
Zoning Commission recommended approval of this IUP.
Councilmember Nelson stated he is excited that they could be finishing this process in 18 months
as this process originally started in 1998.
Acting Mayor Barthel asked if they just have one of these units on their property. Mr. Griffiths
stated it is just one large structure.
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Acting Mayor Barthel asked if the applicant would like to come forward to speak.
Bill Barber, a representative from Andover Christian Church, came forward and shared that the
church has received the bids for the project and financing has been secured. He noted they will
have a contract with Kinghorn Construction and the plans will be presented to the City for permits
to get the project started. He added they are hopeful that this will not take the whole 18 months.
Councilmember Engelhardt asked if this is a mobile structure and if it will be demolished or just
moved elsewhere. Mr. Barber stated this is a mobile unit and he is not sure if it will be reused.
Mr. Dickinson noted the contractor that the Church is working with has worked within the City
and is familiar with the City requirements.
Councilmember Butler added he is pleased to see this being brought back as an 18-month extension
rather than another 5 years.
Acting Mayor Barthel explained he is not a fan of these types of structures as they do not have the
best safety measures and they can be an eyesore. He noted he does not normally support extensions
of these types of structures; however, with it being 18 months he can support it. He shared his
appreciation for the 18 month timeline.
Motion by Nelson, Seconded by Engelhardt, to approve Resolution No. R053-23 granting an
Interim Use Permit for extending the time for the removal of a subordinate classroom structure on
the property located at 16045 Nightingale Street NW. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER VARIANCE REQUEST - 14358 BUTTERNUT ST NW; PID# 25-32-24-41-0073
- JOSEPH & KAITLIN SULLIVAN (APPLICANTS)
The applicants are requesting a variance from the rear yard setback requirements established within
City Code for an addition to their home. The addition would be for a screened in porch.
Mr. Griffiths reviewed the staff report concerning a variance request for a home add-on. He noted
the applicant is requesting a 27-foot setback. He added this home was constructed farther back
than a normal front yard setback. He stated the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends
denial of the application, based on variance criteria #2, stating that the applicant would have the
ability to redesign the project in a way that would meet the City Code and would not require a
variance.
Councilmember Nelson asked if the Planning and Zoning Commission denied this because it can
be reconfigured to fall within the City Code. Mr. Griffiths said yes and that the variance would be
for 3 feet. He added there are other options that would meet City Code. He explained the house is
39 feet from the rear property line and the rear yard setback in 30 feet.
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Acting Mayor Barthel asked the applicants to come forward.
Joseph Sullivan, 14385 Butternut Street NW, the applicant, came forward and shared that criteria
#2 was heavily discussed at the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. He stated this criteria
is vague as the circumstance was not created by the applicant. He noted when the house was built,
it was setback farther than usual because of the grading of the driveway. He shared that he
understands that they could reconfigure the porch but it is a 10% difference and they are hoping to
have the variance granted. He added the contractor also recommends this for the structural
integrity.
Councilmember Butler noted he understands that the 3 extra feet makes a significant difference
for the use of the structure. He asked for more information on what the extra 3 feet does for the
structural integrity. Mr. Sullivan stated the contractor was unable to attend the meeting this
evening. He stated from a 9-foot perspective, making the structure more rectangular it ties into the
house in a different manner than the 12-foot structure would. He noted there would also be options
with the 9-foot deck to have a freestanding structure on top of the deck that would not be tied into
the house and would not be as structurally sound. He stated they are looking into a 9-foot porch
rather than the requested 12 foot, but it would change the use of their porch and how it ties into
their home.
Mr. Sullivan explained they have spoken to their neighbors and none of the neighbors are opposed
to this structure, and they have received signatures and email support for the approval.
Councilmember Butler asked if they wanted to build a free standing structure, like a gazebo,
beyond the setback they would be able to do so. Mr. Griffiths stated if the property owner wants
to build an accessory structure rather than an addition, there is a different setback requirement.
Councilmember Butler asked about criteria #2 that the Planning and Zoning Commission focused
on as their reason for recommending denial. He noted it is hard to understand how the
circumstances were created by the landowner, not the developer. Mr. Griffiths explained the
Planning and Zoning Commission’s discussion hinged on the latter part of the criteria that the
circumstance is unique to the property and was not created by the landowner. He stated in this
situation, the property owner can currently meet the City Code if they modify the design of their
project. He added the argument was that the applicant is creating the need for the variance by
wanting to build the porch in a way that does not meet City Code.
Councilmember Nelson shared that situations like this are very difficult and the reason for the
Planning and Zoning Commission is to look at these types of items and make recommendations
for the Council. He noted the Council has to take the Planning and Zoning Commission
recommendation into account.
Councilmember Engelhardt asked if the difference in the setback is due to flooding and water
control. Mr. Griffiths stated this is a standard rear yard setback for this zoning district.
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Acting Mayor Barthel shared that he watched the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. He
stated the discussion at the meeting was great and he feels horrible for the property owners that
their driveway was moved by the builder. He explained because of this decision, the property now
has constraints. He reiterated something that a Planning and Zoning Commissioner said during the
meeting, that just because the current neighbors do not have a problem with it, that does not mean
that the next neighbors will feel the same way. He explained this could create a domino effect of
requests if the City allows this. He noted since the design can be modified to fit within the easement
it is hard for the Council to approve their request. He stated he is not in support of the variance.
Councilmember Butler concurred with a lot of what Acting Mayor Barthel shared. He noted the
variance process exists for a reason, to allow for reasonable uses under certain criteria. He
reviewed the criteria and shared that he sees this as a reasonable request for a variance and meets
the criteria. He noted that he supports the variance.
Acting Mayor Barthel reviewed criteria #2 and shared that the Planning and Zoning Commission
had issues because of the driveway and the driveway being approved by the homeowners. He noted
because the homeowners approved of the driveway, the circumstance was created by them.
Mr. Baumgartner stated the Council should talk this out to see if any one member would be able
to be swayed one way or another. He noted this cannot be approved or denied based on a tied vote.
He noted if they cannot reach a decision, they would need to postpone this matter until there is a
five-person Council to break the tie. Mr. Dickinson added they could also choose to table this to a
future meeting.
Councilmember Butler shared that part of what he looks at is that these restrictions are in place for
the benefit of the community and they are to guide reasonable use of property that somewhat
restrict property rights for the people that own the property. He noted the variance process is in
place to determine what are reasonable exceptions to these rules. He stated he does not view this
as setting a precedent, rather just a situation for a variance due to the unique situation of the
property. He said he sees this as allowing the property owner to make a reasonable enhancement
to their property. He added that denying this seems as though the Council is being more rule bound
than they are required to be in these situations.
Councilmember Nelson emphasized the property owner could modify their design to be within
the variance, which he believes was the main reason for the Planning and Zoning Commission’s
recommendation. Acting Mayor Barthel agreed.
Councilmember Engelhardt shared that the reason he is supporting the variance is because they
have the process in place to make reasonable accommodations for projects like this. He noted the
driveway is a non-issue for anything moving forward. He added the applicant is making reasonable
accommodations to try to make this right and it is not a catastrophic effect to the property. He
stated the applicants have taken aesthetics and their neighbors into account.
Acting Mayor Barthel shared that he understands the opinions of Councilmembers Butler and
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Engelhardt. He stated after listening to the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, since this
can be modified to fit, they have to hold steadfast to the variance. He noted this will need to be
tabled to the next meeting since it is a split vote.
Motion by Butler, Seconded by Nelson, to lay this item on the table for future consideration.
Motion carried unanimously.
CONSIDER ORDINANCE - PROHIBIT USE OF CANNABIS IN PUBLIC
During the 2023 legislative session, a new law was passed that legalized adult-use cannabis in
Minnesota beginning August 1, 2023.
Mr. Dickinson reviewed the staff report concerning prohibiting the use of cannabis in public
places.
Councilmember Butler stated there was a lot of confusing discussion in the past around
intoxicating and non-intoxicating THC when it was previously discussed. He asked if they will
run into similar issues and confusion with the language in this ordinance. Mr. Baumgartner
explained that the new law for the State is 155 pages long and this is all addressed in the law. He
noted some modifications and clarifications were made to the THC law to clear it up. He stated
the City has to make modifications to their own ordinance because of the law change. He added
they will not have the same issue with this language as with the THC language as they have done
a better job of identifying and describing low potency edibles. He stated the primary reason for
this ordinance is to address smoking in public. He noted this will likely be educational for the first
few months.
Councilmember Butler stated he supports the ordinance; however, he is aware that there can be
unintended consequences to the definitions that are put into these ordinances. Mr. Baumgartner
stated there are going to be some unintended consequences in a 155-page document that was
passed. He noted this should be figured out as situations arise. He stated this allows those who
want to partake in adult-use cannabis to do so and allow those who choose not to partake to be
forced into a situation of having to be around someone who chooses to partake.
Mr. Dickinson shared that they have been waiting on guidance from the State and the League of
Minnesota Cities on this and they have not yet received it. He noted this item is of imminent
importance and there will be other similar items that will be coming forward.
Mr. Baumgartner shared that something that stuck out to him in the law is that every city must
have a minimum of one licensed retailer per population of 12,500 residents. He noted there is also
a criteria in the law that states that cities may prohibit the retailer within a certain distance from
different places. He stated it is possible that the prohibited areas could not leave a single area in a
city where a retailer could be, which was not addressed in the law. He added there is also no penalty
provision in the law for anyone who uses cannabis under the age of 21.
Councilmember Butler asked if this will be coming back to the Council. Mr. Baumgartner said yes
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and explained that the Council will have to discuss zoning, locations, and other items. He added
that licenses will not be issued until January 1, 2025. He noted the State is still putting together a
cannabis oversight commission which will govern all licensing provisions.
Mr. Dickinson noted the first discussion of these changes will need to go through the Planning and
Zoning Commission and will take time.
Acting Mayor Barthel stated he has heard people say that alcohol is allowed in public but not
cannabis. He asked if alcohol is allowed in public places in Andover. Mr. Dickinson said no.
Acting Mayor Barthel stated this matches the City’s alcohol policy.
Mr. Baumgartner added the League of Minnesota Cities has encouraged people to look at cannabis
like it is alcohol as the restrictions are very similar.
Mr. Dickinson noted the statute allows for temporary provisions just as it does for alcohol.
Councilmember Engelhardt asked about the controls and compliance between having this
ordinance in place and the legalization of August 1st. Mr. Baumgartner stated it will go into effect
seven days after publication. He stated if this passed, he would reach out to the Sheriff's Office
and give them a copy of the ordinance and also get the ordinance added to the Code Enforcement.
He noted he would ask the Sheriff's Office to use the first few weeks and months of this as an
educational component.
Motion by Nelson, Seconded by Butler, to adopt Ordinance No. 556, adopting Title 5, Chapter 12
use of cannabis in public. Motion carried unanimously.
ADMINISTRATOR’S REPORT
City Staff updated the Council on the administration and city department activities, legislative
updates, updates on development/CIP projects, and meeting reminders/community events.
(Administrative Staff Report) Mr. Dickinson reviewed the Administrative Staff report,
highlighting that the City is working with the MPCA, EPA, and the Minnesota Department of
Health to coordinate meetings for the water issues that were discussed earlier in the evening. He
noted many different departments have been helping work on this. He stated the budget and CIP
planning are in full force. He added they are working on some land negotiations. He shared that he
participated in the Metro Cities’ policy development and participated in policy development for
metro agencies as well as revenue and taxation. He noted he has also sat on the Regional Planning
Advisory Committee with the Met Council and hopes to get some other surrounding cities to
participate in this in the future. He added he has also been spending lots of time on the new
cannabis laws. He noted there are 39 new homes in the City. He shared that building has slowed
residentially but commercial is still going strong.
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(Public Works/Engineering Department Report) Mr. Berkowitz reviewed the Public Works and
Engineering report highlighting construction updates in regard to 16.5 miles of roads being done
this year. He shared that they are nearly 80% complete with this road work. He noted the
reclamation project was started in mid-May and every road is now paved with at least the base
course of bituminous. He reviewed the mill and overlay projects and noted they have all been
milled and paved. He noted Oak Bluff is in progress. He stated the engineering technicians have
been working long days six days a week to get all of this done. He thanked these individuals for
putting in the long hours to get the work done. He added they are currently redoing the parking lot
at Sunshine Park. He stated they have not yet started the parking lot at Fire Station #2. He gave
updates on the developments including the Fields at Winslow Cove, highlighting there will be a
roundabout on Prairie Road and there will be a full closure, tentatively starting August 14th and
will last 8-10 weeks. He stated more information will be on the City’s website and it will be
updated weekly.
(Community Development Department Report) Mr. Griffiths reviewed the Community
Development Report highlighting residential development and the Legacy at Petersen Farms
project which will be coming forward to the Council in the coming months. He noted there is a
backlog of projects that they are trying to get started.
Councilmember Nelson asked about the Woodland Estates project. Mr. Berkowitz explained they
went away from chip seal coating as it prematurely deteriorates. He stated they are trying reclamite
on this project. He noted this product rejuvenates the pavement and prevents the oxidation of it.
He shared that the south metro area has had good luck with this product.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Councilmember Nelson emphasized that the City is implementing plan A for the Red Oaks
neighborhood and now they are going to be implementing plan B for East Brook Terrace. He noted
it is critical to have a strategic plan for the future. He noted they have asked the MPCA, the EPA,
and the Minnesota Department of Health where the contaminants are coming from, and they have
not gotten an answer. He encouraged residents to attend the upcoming meeting virtually to get
involved with this. He stated City Staff is doing all that they can and working as quickly as possible
on this.
Mr. Dickinson noted this is in relation to private wells that are seeing the impacts. He stated this
does not affect the City’s water system, as the City tests regularly and meets all health standards.
Acting Mayor Barthel stated tomorrow night is the Night to Unite in Andover and encouraged
residents to attend a party for the event.
RECESS
Acting Mayor Barthel recessed the regular City Council meeting at 8:18 p.m. to a Closed Session
of the City Council to discuss union negotiations.
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RECONVENE
The City Council reconvened at 8:29 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Butler, Seconded by Nelson, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting
adjourned at 8:29 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Ava Rokosz, Recording Secretary
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
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RESIDENT FORUM ..................................................................................................................1
AGENDA APPROVAL ............................................................................................................. 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES ...................................................................................................... 2
CONSENT ITEMS .....................................................................................................................2
Item 2 Approve Payment of Claims .....................................................................................2
Item 3 Approve JPA with Anoka County/22-37/Round Lake Blvd. NW Reconstruction .. 2
Item 4 Approve Amended Fee Schedule (Ord. 555) ........................................................... 2
CONSIDER INTERIM USE PERMIT (IUP) AMENDMENT - 16045 NIGHTINGALE ST.
NW; PID# 15-32-24-42-0006 - ANDOVER CHRISTIAN CHURCH (APPLICANTS)
(R053-23) ............................................................................................................................2
CONSIDER VARIANCE REQUEST - 14358 BUTTERNUT ST NW; PID# 25-32-24-41-
0073 - JOSEPH & KAITLIN SULLIVAN (APPLICANTS) Motion to lay this item on
the table for future consideration ........................................................................................ 3
CONSIDER ORDINANCE - PROHIBIT USE OF CANNABIS IN PUBLIC (Ord. 556) ........6
ADMINISTRATOR’S REPORT ............................................................................................... 7
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT ......................................................................................................8
RECESS ......................................................................................................................................8
RECONVENE ............................................................................................................................ 9
ADJOURNMENT ...................................................................................................................... 9
Agenda
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Regular City Council Meeting – Monday, July 31, 2023
Call to Order – 7:00 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
1. Approval of Minutes (7/18/23 Workshop; 7/18/23 Regular)
Consent Items
2. Approve Payment of Claims – Finance
3. Approve JPA with Anoka County/22-37/Round Lake Blvd. NW Reconstruction – Engineering
4. Approve Amended Fee Schedule – Community Center & Finance
Discussion Items
5. Consider Interim Use Permit (IUP) Amendment – 16045 Nightingale St NW; PID# 15-32-24-42-
0006 – Andover Christian Church (Applicants) – Planning
6. Consider Variance Request – 14358 Butternut St NW; PID# 25-32-24-41-0073 – Joseph & Kaitlin
Sullivan (Applicants) – Planning
7. Consider Ordinance – Prohibit Use of Cannabis in Public - Administration
Staff Items
8. Administrator’s Report – Administration
Mayor/Council Input
Closed Session - Union Negotiations Update
Adjournment
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