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ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETING – AUGUST 27, 2024 MINUTES The Workshop Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Bukkila, August 27, 2024, 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Councilmembers present: Jamie Barthel, Ted Butler, Rick Engelhardt, and Randy Nelson Councilmember absent: None Also present: City Administrator, Jim Dickinson Community Development Director, Joe Janish Director of Public Works/City Engineer, David Berkowitz Natural Resources Technician, Kameron Kytonen Nature Preserve Commissioner, Jonathan Gwinn Finance Manager, Lee Brezinka Human Resources Manager, Dana Makinen Associate Planner, Jake Griffiths Others DISCUSS FENCE PROPOSAL Community Development Director Janish reviewed the staff report in regard to a fence application that was received. He shared that staff was not able to make a determination on whether or not proposed materials, including welded wire, are allowed under City Code. Councilmember Nelson asked if they have received permit applications using this kind of material in the rural area. Mr. Janish said he is not aware of any. Mr. Janish explained this property would allow farm animals, and if they had farm animals on the property then they would be able to build this fence as it would be considered agricultural. Mayor Bukkila asked how the proposed style of fencing is different from a chain link fence. Mr. Janish explained chain link is movable and not rigid. Councilmember Nelson asked if the welded wire is galvanized. Mr. Janish said he believes that it is. Councilmember Barthel asked why panels wider than 12 inches are not allowed under City Code. Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 2 Mr. Janish said he is not sure and noted that it goes back to the original Code that was adopted by the Council. Councilmember Nelson asked if this fence would meet the height requirements. Mr. Janish said yes. Councilmember Nelson said he sees no reason to not allow this. Councilmember Butler asked what this issue is with panels that are larger than 12 inches. Mr. Janish explained the welded wire comes in a roll, so technically the panels would be larger than 12 inches. Councilmember Barthel asked if City Code has a requirement on how large the holes can be in fences. Mr. Janish said no. Mayor Bukkila said the one issue she has with this is that the fence could be climbable, and residents could think that this style fencing would satisfy the pool ordinance. Mr. Janish added there are other styles of fence that would satisfy the pool ordinance but would also be climbable. Councilmember Butler said he does not have a problem with the welded wire and does not think it goes against the fence ordinance. Councilmember Barthel stated he wants to be careful with how they would word this amendment as he would not want people to now be able to put up galvanized panels or other not visually appealing materials. He said this welded wire fencing looks better than chain link in his opinion. Councilmember Butler suggested adding language about exposed hardware in the amendment for this kind of fencing. He noted under the current ordinance, he sees that this material would be allowed; however, he believes they should take a look at the ordinance as a whole. Mayor Bukkila explained that over time, she anticipates children will try to climb this fence and it will cause the welded wire to bend and not look as good. Mr. Janish added there are fence maintenance requirements in City Code. Councilmember Nelson asked if they approved this material, what they would have to amend. Director of Public Works/City Engineer Berkowitz said there would likely have to be a Code amendment to allow this as staff has to be able to tell residents what is allowable. Councilmember Barthel noted if they do amend the Code, he would like them to also address how large the holes in the fence can be. Mayor Bukkila stated other than fencing for pools, people are allowed to have different types of Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 3 fencing materials. Councilmember Barthel asked if they have a different Code for pool fencing. Mr. Janish said this is included in the Building Code. Mr. Janish said he is hearing that the Council is interested in allowing this kind of fencing. He noted staff can work on language that will allow this kind of fencing while still restricting others. Councilmember Butler added the attachment of the hardware for these fences is also important. Mr. Berkowitz said they can bring this back to the next Workshop meeting with updated language. TREE PRESERVATION POLICY PROPOSAL Natural Resources Technician Kytonen reviewed the staff report requesting the Nature Preserve Commissioner Jonathan Gwinn’s proposal on tree preservation. He shared he and Mr. Gwinn have been working on this proposal since May of 2023. Mr. Gwinn reviewed his proposal with the Council. Mr. Kytonen gave the Council an example of what the new proposal would look like in an actual development, Oakview Acres. Mayor Bukkila stated this seems to be something that they could do per lot rather than per acre. Mr. Gwinn explained the overall requirement comes from how many trees were cut down and need to be replaced. Mr. Kytonen explained the Code currently requires at least two trees in the front yard of any newly constructed home and Mr. Gwinn is suggesting that they add one additional tree to the front yards. Mayor Bukkila said she is having trouble visualizing this for the Oakview Acres development as it is not a traditional development. Mr. Berkowitz stated this proposal would on average require a minimum of 6 trees per lot. Mayor Bukkila noted once driveways and decks have been placed on properties, there does not leave much additional space for trees. Mr. Kytonen explained in some of the newer developments, like Fields at Winslow Coves, buffer trees were required with the plat approval which also satisfies this requirement. Mayor Bukkila asked if this was a part of the Fields at Winslow Cove PUD. Mr. Janish said yes; however, the Code requires buffers in R-4 developments. Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 4 Mr. Berkowitz stated that with Oakview Acres, the developer planted the minimum of two trees in the front yard. Mr. Kytonen shared he went out to this development and counted around 25 trees that have been planted in the backyards for these homes by the homeowners themselves. He stated the current proposal would require around 70 trees. Councilmember Butler said he likes the concept of this tree preservation policy; however, he thinks the implementation will be more difficult as every development is a lot different. Mayor Bukkila noted they need to come up with a ratio for this. Councilmember Butler added there have been studies that show that people are healthier when there are more trees in their neighborhood. Councilmember Nelson shared he likes this proposal and thinks it is coming at a very good time. He said when he drives through the community, there are so many dead trees that he sees. He noted this proposal would help bring back a certain percentage of the dead trees that have to be removed. Councilmember Butler asked who would be doing the inventory for this when new developments come to the City. He asked if the developers would have to hire a licensed arborist. Mr. Kytonen said the developer, or their engineer would be responsible for this. Mayor Bukkila asked if they are currently required to do this. Mr. Kytonen said no. Mayor Bukkila noted this would be an additional cost to the developer. Mr. Berkowitz asked about the average cost of a tree inventory. Mr. Kytonen said it would be around $4,000 to $5,000 depending on the overall size of the development. Councilmember Butler said if they are going to consider this, then they also have to think about the situations when someone is splitting their lot. He asked if they would require a planting plan for these developments that would address some of the diseased tree issues. Mr. Kytonen said staff will be doing regular planning reviews to address any issues. Mayor Bukkila noted the option of six trees per acre seems to be the closest to current requirements. Mr. Kytonen explained with this option, the maximum per acre would go down. Mayor Bukkila asked if there are three properties, each one third of an acre and they all have the required two front yard trees if those trees would fulfill the six trees per acre requirement. Mr. Kytonen said the front yard trees do not apply to this. Councilmember Butler stated this would incentivize developers to pursue low-impact Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 5 development. Mayor Bukkila said she does not see an application of this that she can visualize for the variety of developments they have in the City. Mr. Kytonen explained if the developers know the requirements up front, they could then adjust their development type. Mayor Bukkila gave an example of a development where the developer was struggling to even get the homes to fit on the lots. Mr. Kytonen asked if they had to remove a lot of trees with this development. Mayor Bukkila said she does not remember specifically; however, she does remember that they were concerned with the fire hazard of having the homes so close together. Mr. Kytonen said if trees are preserved and not removed, then the developer does not need to worry about replanting. Mayor Bukkila said she does not think that is fair or consistent. Councilmember Butler noted they will occasionally push back on developers for proposing something that is too dense. He explained if the developers want more density, they will have to pay into the tree fund if they are not able to replace all of the trees they are removing. Councilmember Nelson stated this is almost like park dedication fees. Mr. Kytonen added in the rural reserve, landscaping requirements will come into play. Mr. Berkowitz asked if there is a way to simplify this and say that the Council gets to determine how many trees are to be planted through the PUD review. Councilmember Barthel said he likes this plan; however, he does not want the requirement to be per lot. He suggested requiring a certain number of trees per acre to be replaced and include the required front yard trees in this number. He stated he would not want the developers to have to send extra money on an arborist to do a tree inventory. Mayor Bukkila asked why they would not want to put trees where there currently are not any. She said if there is a development that does not have any trees to begin with, she would like to see a tree canopy put into place. Mr. Kytonen noted there will be landscaping requirements in PUDs. Mr. Berkowitz asked if the Council would support charging a fee for every required tree that the developer does not plant per acre. Councilmember Barthel said yes. Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 6 Councilmember Butler said it seems as though the Council is supportive of this idea; however, they are getting caught up on the implementation of the plan. He added he thinks they need to look at this on a per acre basis rather than a per lot basis. He shared his appreciation for Mr. Kytonen and Mr. Gwinn working on this plan and bringing it back to the Council. Mr. Berkowitz asked if they should go by gross acres for the entire development. Mayor Bukkila said she does not think it is fair to require trees in areas where driveways, decks, or easements may be and thinks they need to consider the development as a whole. Councilmember Barthel shared he likes the idea of putting this in the hands of the developer for them to decide where to put the trees in the entire development, and if they decide not to plant all of the required trees, then they would pay into the tree fund. Mr. Berkowitz asked how they would handle the tree replacement in the rural areas. Mr. Dickinson asked if they are worried about tree replacement in the rural areas. Mayor Bukkila said she thinks it needs to be considered. Mr. Berkowitz asked if they would require this plan to be followed for lot splits. Mayor Bukkila said yes. Councilmember Butler said no. Councilmember Barthel suggested they could have something in the policy that if someone splits their lot and only cuts down a small fraction of their total trees then they do not need to replace those. Mr. Janish said they could have limitations if they go through the platting process with a lot split. Mayor Bukkila said she would like to see examples of developments in the City that currently have the type of tree coverage that this plan would create. Councilmember Butler said he would like to maintain the requirement of two trees in every front yard and have a total minimum for the whole development per acre. He noted the two in the front yard would be included in the total number. Councilmember Engelhardt asked if the canopy coverage includes deciduous trees and evergreens or if it is more decorative trees. Mr. Kytonen said it would be total canopy coverage with shade trees and mature evergreens. Councilmember Engelhardt asked about continuing work for development where trees are removed. He asked if the property owners would have to replace these trees. Mr. Kytonen said this plan has to do with the development and anything removed after the fact would not be required to be replaced. Council consensus was reached to direct staff to work on strategies and ideas for how they would implement this plan for different developments and to bring back different versions of this plan Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 7 with a different number of trees per acre required. They requested examples of what this plan could look like in multiple different developments in the City. DISCUSS POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT - VERBAL Mr. Janish reviewed the staff report on a potential development of the unaddressed property on Ward Lake Drive NW. He shared the updated proposal which includes 15 lots. Mayor Bukkila asked why they cannot go to 13 lots for this development. Mr. Dickinson shared the developer is saying it is due to costs. Mr. Janish explained as they reduce the lots, having a roadway access and a cul-de-sac for two homes is not cost-beneficial. He added this would also be more work for street maintenance. Councilmember Barthel asked what the average lot size would be for this development. Mr. Janish said it would be around 2.2 acres. Councilmember Barthel said he would be happier with this proposal if they took out one home and made it 14, which would bring it closer to the two-and-a-half acre lot requirement. Mayor Bukkila said she does not support this. Council consensus was reached to move forward with the 15 lot proposal. Mr. Janish reviewed the staff report in regard to the Silvercrest development. He shared the DNR came out and did their inventory looking for rare species and none were found on the site. He added they are working on getting their plan together to submit back to the City. He shared the developer would like to go back to the PUD resolution and amend the section concerning the “cooperation” for the roundabout at Bluebird Street. He noted what has been negotiated at this point is a contribution of up to $750,000 for the roundabout, not to exceed 50% of the total cost to be paid at the time of the development agreement either as cash or part of a letter of credit. Councilmember Barthel asked about the estimated cost of the roundabout. Mr. Dickinson said it will be between $1,500,000 and $2,000,000. Councilmember Butler said this amendment gives them certainty that the development will give significant contributions to the roundabout, and he believes this is the right thing for them to do at this time. Mr. Berkowitz added all of the internal streets for this development will be private streets and the City will not have snowplow or maintenance responsibility for these internal streets. Council consensus was reached to direct staff to share with the developer that the Council is agreeable to this amendment. Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 8 2025-2029 DRAFT CIP DISTRIBUTION/DISCUSSION Mr. Dickinson reviewed the staff report in regard to the 2025-2029 proposed CIP. He noted streets are a major focus of 2025. Finance Manager Brezinka noted the roof for the Community Center has been broken out over two years as the YMCA is in agreement with pushing this out in the CIP. Councilmember Nelson asked if the roof of the Community Center is currently leaking. Mr. Brezinka said the roof of the field house is leaking and they cannot find the source of the leaks. Councilmember Butler asked if the YMCA is committed to doing their portion in 2026. Mr. Dickinson said they would be contractually obligated to be committed as part of their lease agreement. Councilmember Nelson asked if the fire truck is still on order. Mr. Brezinka shared the Fire Department has a fire truck that has been ordered and will likely be coming in next year. He added there are also two plow trucks that have been ordered that should be in by December. Mr. Brezinka shared they are planning on issuing bonds in the fall for equipment. He asked if they want to include the 2025 road improvement bond in the upcoming sale. Councilmember Nelson asked if they will be able to reuse any of the equipment on the current fire truck and move it to the new one. Mr. Brezinka said they will reuse some of the miscellaneous equipment. Mr. Dickinson explained this fire truck will move into the reserve, and they could sell the truck currently in reserve. Councilmember Nelson asked if the amount set aside for the Red Oaks Neighborhood coverage of the whole project. Mr. Dickinson said yes. Mr. Dickinson stated the Red Oaks funding helped the street fund as these were roads that they would have had to replace and now these roads are able to be put way back in the cycle. Mr. Dickinson shared they would put the CIP out for public hearing in September. He added if the CIP gets approved then they can start pre orders of certain items. Mr. Brezinka added they would like to take advantage of interest rates that are starting to drop. He noted they would like to get the field house roof replaced in April so they would need to initiate this process as soon as the CIP is approved. Mr. Dickinson noted if road bonds are issued this fall, they will have to assume that the levy will Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 9 be approved in December. He said if they issue the road bonds with the equipment bonds then they would have to approve the debt service levy. Mayor Bukkila asked about the Anoka County dog park improvements for 2029. She said she did not know that $30,000 for a well at the dog park was included in the CIP. She noted during their last update on this project the County was not interested in doing water and she did not expect to see anything in the CIP relating to this project for water. Mr. Berkowitz shared after talking with the County, they had discussed putting this in the CIP in case it comes up in the future. He noted this project is dead for now; however, that does not mean it is dead forever. Mayor Bukkila shared her concerns with having a $30,000 project in the CIP. Mr. Berkowtiz shared the reason it is a higher amount than they previously discussed is because it is five years out in the plan, and they anticipate costs rising by then. He added they could push this to 2030 which would remove it from the current plan. Mayor Bukkila suggested bringing this back forward to the Council to even consider if they want to pursue it. Councilmember Butler stated the Council shared their interest in this project as long as there was a partnership with Coon Rapids and the County. He said he would like to keep this in the plan in some capacity. Mayor Bukkila noted putting $30,000 towards a water fountain is too high of an amount. She suggested they keep this project in mind as something they would like to move forward with if the opportunity presents itself and the price is right; however, she thinks they could be more conservative on the cost. Mr. Dickinson suggested changing the language to reflect future improvements to the dog park and not specify that it would be for water. He said this way they can keep it in the plan as something on the horizon they want to accomplish. Councilmember Barthel said he would like to see it moved to 2030 or taken out of the CIP completely until it makes sense to add it back. Councilmember Engelhardt agreed. Council directed staff to remove the $30,000 from the plan. Mayor Bukkila noted there is a skate park in the CIP with a total cost of $125,000 and this is the first time she is seeing it. She said she does not like seeing items like this for the first time while approving the CIP. She added she realizes this will be coming from park dedication funds; however, she would like to see the Council discuss these kinds of items before they are added to the CIP when they have such a high total cost. Mr. Berkowitz explained this project would be to expand the skate park. He said they could bring this item back and specifically talk about it as a part of the public hearing. He noted this dollar amount is what Parks and Streets Operations Manager Jason Baumunk, and the Park and Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 10 Recreation Commission came up with and was discussed at the joint workshop. Mayor Bukkila said the Park and Recreation Commission should be proposing these kinds of things to the Council rather than just having them added to the CIP. Councilmember Barthel noted they did discuss the skate park at a past workshop meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission; however, he does not remember there being a dollar amount involved in the discussion. Mr. Berkowitz said he can gather more information on this to provide it to the Council. He reiterated they could make this a specific part of the public hearing. Mayor Bukkila stated she does not want the skate park to be a highlight of the public hearing as they have bigger issues in front of them. Council consensus was reached to direct staff to keep the skate park improvement in the CIP and move forward with the CIP with the discussed changes. DISCUSS 2025 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT Mr. Dickinson reviewed the staff report concerning the 2025 budget development. He highlighted staffing, succession planning, personnel implications, contractual agreements, and the capital project and debt services levies. Mayor Bukkila asked if taxable market values did not move. Mr. Dickinson said there were some values that went down this year. Mr. Dickinson explained the change in market value exclusions causes an impact on taxable market values. Councilmember Nelson asked what the median home price is for the City. Mr. Dickinson said it is around $398,000 this year and it was around $404,000 last year. Mayor Bukkila asked what the funding is looking like for the donations and contributions. Mr. Brezinka said there is over $100,000 in cash in the charitable gambling fund. Mayor Bukkila noted some of the charitable organizations they contribute to have been receiving the same amount from the City for the last several years while costs have been going up. She said she would like to consider increasing the contributions to some of the local community organizations. Councilmember Nelson asked where the money in the charitable gambling fund comes from. Mr. Dickinson said it comes from pull tabs. Mr. Dickinson discussed Youth First programming utilizing the Community Center and the Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 11 YMCA will also be taking a club based approach utilizing the field house for youth programming. He added the Youth First program would be compliant with and be able to use opioid settlement dollars to fund it. Councilmember Nelson asked if the focus of this programming would be drug prevention. Mr. Dickinson shared part of it would include drug prevention; however, it does not have to be completely drug prevention focused to utilize the opioid dollars. Mr. Dickinson shared the County is now anticipating being able to get these opioid dollars for 18 years. He explained the County will be putting together a Council for this to discuss goals and focuses. Councilmember Nelson asked if the opioid dollars can be used by the Sheriff’s Department and EMS. Mr. Dickinson said yes and explained it can be used for naloxone for the Fire Department or the Sheriff’s Office; however, public safety already has multiple different revenue streams and education on drug prevention does not. Mr. Brezinka explained compensated absences are a new part of the budget, and this is to cover the accrued sick and vacation time that they have to pay out to an employee when they leave the City. Mr. Dickinson shared they are currently looking at a tax levy increase of 12.75%. He explained they were projecting a 12.5% increase; however, they were also expecting a taxable market value increase of around 3% and it only ended up being 0.4%. He noted this is the worst case scenario amount and they could always try to reduce it. Councilmember Nelson asked how much they would need to cut to get the increase down to 12.5%. Mr. Dickinson said it would be around $50,000. Council consensus was reached to direct staff to move forward with the budget development. a. Discuss City of Andover Employee 2025 Compensation Human Resources Manager Makinen reviewed the staff report in regard to staff compensation for 2025. She shared she would like to focus on department heads' salaries this year. Mr. Dickinson explained the City Administrator's salary is lower than a lot of the surrounding cities; however, since Andover contracts out a lot of their services, he as the City Administrator does not have to deal with public safety in his position where other City Administrators in the area may have to since their public safety is handled by their city and not contracted. He stated Andover’s City Administrator position is not necessarily comparable to some other cities. Ms. Makinen added the City Administrator's salary is the highest salary for staff. She explained department heads’ salaries cannot go above the City Administrator’s salaries. She noted they are Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 12 going to have to increase the salaries of department heads to stay competitive. Councilmember Butler asked which positions are behind the market. Ms. Makinen said the City Administrator, the Finance Manager, Public Works Director and City Engineer, Fire Chief, Community Development Director, Human Resources Manager, Information’s System Support, City Planner and the Recreation Facility Manager. Councilmember Butler said he would like to look at the median salaries for all of the comparable cities. Ms. Makinen said she can do this calculation. Mayor Bukkila asked Ms. Makinen if she is looking for a 2025 budget request. Ms. Makinen said yes. Mr. Dickinson added they put a placeholder in the budget that can help with some of these requested increases. Mayor Bukkila noted the last time they had big disparities in salaries they implemented additional steps at around 5% each. Ms. Makinen explained last year they did a market rate increase at $1.75 per hour for certain positions. Councilmember Butler said they do not need to set the market for these positions; however, they do need to be in the market. He shared his concern with being double-digit percentages behind for certain roles. Ms. Makinen stated her two main requests would be to increase the salaries for the City Administrator and the Finance Manager. Mr. Dickinson noted they could be looking at rate increases around $3 to $8 an hour to get some department head wages consistent with the market and in some cases $4 to $5 an hour to just get them to the lower end of the market. Mayor Bukkila asked what salary was posted for the City Administrator position. Ms. Makinen shared it was posted as a range of $142,909 to $175,759. Councilmember Nelson added they will be looking for someone with experience, and with experience generally comes an increase in income. Mayor Bukkila asked if the Finance Manager position is significantly behind their target. Ms. Makinen stated it is at least 10% behind what they should be targeting. Ms. Makinen shared they could do a range modification as most ranges are around 5%. She explained that a range modification would give the position a 5% increase plus a 3% COLA. Mayor Bukkila suggested leaving the COLA separate from this discussion and only address the market rates. Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 13 Councilmember Butler suggested phasing an increase in over a few years and do a few steps each year. Mayor Bukkila said they are falling too far behind, and they need to react. Mr. Dickinson stated there is still time for staff to work on this and bring it back to Council. He said they can figure out what placeholder number to put into the budget to anticipate these increases. Mr. Berkowitz asked if some of these positions could get a one-time adjustment as well as steps. Council consensus was reached to direct staff to come up with a strategy to increase department head wages that are behind the market. DISCUSS 2025 PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY Mr. Dickinson shared they addressed the tax levy during the 2025 budget discussion. OTHER TOPICS Mr. Berkowitz discussed the intersection at Bunker Lake Boulevard and Heather Street. He shared the County has plans to majorly upgrade the signals along Bunker Lake Boulevard from Jay Street through Rose Street. He noted there have been a lot of concerns about the Bunker Lake Boulevard and Heather Street intersection over the years due to the way that traffic currently operates. He explained the north side of this area is a roadway easement that the City was provided when Bunker Lake Boulevard was reconstructed. He said they are responsible for this even though it is on private property. He shared they have discussed with the County that since this leg is used to access the schools, they would like the schools to pay for it; however, both schools said no as they have a deficit in the School District. He reiterated there have been a lot of complaints over the years with how the signal at this intersection operates. He said they want to upgrade this for when people are crossing Bunker Lake Boulevard with the improvements vehicles will not be able to turn left until pedestrians have crossed. He noted the County believes this is a very important improvement and they would be willing to cover $15,000 of the costs associated with this project and has requested the city cover the remaining $15,000. He added a lot of the cost for this project will come from widening the road. Councilmember Nelson asked if the intersection is on the school’s property. Mr. Berkowitz explained the north side of the intersection is on Meadow Creek’s property and the School District will not pay for any improvements that are on private property. Mr. Berkowitz said this could be funded through the road and bridge fund. Councilmember Butler said this is an easy safety issue that they can fix. Councilmember Nelson Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes – August 27, 2024 Page 14 agreed. Council agreed to contribute a maximum of $15,000 to additional improvements at the intersection discussed. Ms. Makinen asked the Council when they would like to do interviews for the City Administrator position and how they would like to conduct these interviews. Councilmember Butler shared if someone meets the minimum qualifications he would like the Council to be able to see their applicants then staff can recommend a pool of applicants to be interviewed. He suggested asking each applicant to come prepared with a five to ten minute presentation to have them discuss their visions. Ms. Makinen said she would like to present the Council with five to six quality candidates but could present more if the Council is interested. She noted with more applicants, the longer it will take to interview them. Mayor Bukkila said she is available September 18th and 19th. The rest of the Council was also available on these dates. Ms. Makinen said she can schedule the interviews between 6:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. on September 18th and 19th. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Barthel, Seconded by Nelson, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The workshop meeting adjourned at 8:44 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Ava Major, Recording Secretary