Nature Preserve Commission
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · November 16, 2016
Minutes
REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 16, 2016
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
Chairperson Gretchen Sabel at 6:06 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Anna Dirkswager, Joy Faherty, Aaron Jarson, Kim Kovich, and
Suzanne Van Hecke
Commissioner absent: Jim Olson
Also present: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
RESIDENT FORUM
No one wished to address the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES – September 14, 2016
Motion by Commissioner Dirkswager, Second by Commissioner Van Hecke, to approve the
minutes of September 14, 2016. Motion passed 4-0.
ACCEPT DALSKE WOODLANDS ECOLOGICAL FIELD ASSESSMENT AND
VEGETATION SURVEY PREPARED BY CRITICAL CONNECTIONS ECOLOGICAL
SERVICES, INC.
Chairperson Sabel stated that through previous discussion with Mr. Kytonen, that it was at least
important to acknowledge the receipt of the plan.
Mr. Kytonen opened the plan on the smartboard. He indicated that this is pretty much the same
plan that was submitted at the September meeting, but with a little more detail.
FINAL MANAGEMENT PLAN DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL
a. Martin’s Meadows
Mr. Kytonen opened up the plan on the smartboard. The Commission reviewed the plan.
Commissioner Dirkswager suggested that on the Management Tasks Summary table that a
column be added for “status”, so it would be clear which tasks were completed or still needed to
be completed.
Chairperson Sabel suggested the prairie areas need to be differentiated by east and west areas. It
was further suggested a column be added for “funding source”. The Commission felt that the
boardwalk item should be deleted as well.
Commissioner Kovich asked how much money was left in the grant for management of Martin’s
Meadows. Mr. Kytonen indicated the original grant was $117K and that around $40K was left.
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Commissioner Kovich commented on the Floodplain task, and that it’s difficult to manage a
floodplain because of the nature of how they fluctuate. Mr. Kytonen agreed and indicated that
the $20K slated for management in that area could be used for other activities.
Commissioner Jarson arrived to the meeting.
b. Northwoods Preserve
Mr. Kytonen opened up the plan on the smartboard. Commissioner Kovich indicated that poison
ivy is a problem in this site and in Martin’s Meadows. Commissioner Faherty recommended
putting a brochure in the kiosks at both sites.
The commission reviewed the Management Tasks Summary table.
Commissioner Dirkswager thought that the pine trees should be added into the table and that a
management task should be called Timber Stand Improvement of the pine stand. Chairperson
Sabel recommended more detail for the description column under the manage native species
task.
Commissioner Kovich indicated the park is already in pretty good shape and felt it didn’t need
any immediate management. Commissioner Jarson stated he’s seen debris that needs to be
picked up out there, including old fencing. Commissioner Dirkswager added that to the
comprehensive spreadsheet she was assembling.
Commissioner Van Hecke arrived to the meeting.
Discussion on whether management to the prairie area was needed. Mr. Kytonen indicated a
prescribed burn and over-seeding could benefit the prairie, especially for pollinators.
Chairperson Sabel asked if the endangered species, including the sea-beach needlegrass would
be compromised. Mr. Kytonen said that it wouldn’t be.
Commissioner Van Hecke suggested leaving the prairie alone and that it’s a good example of a
prairie after human activity. She indicated that it’s okay for a few non-natives to be in there as
long as they’re not invasive.
c. Maple View
Mr. Kytonen opened up the plan on the smartboard. Mr. Kytonen stated this plan had a lot less
detail in the site history portion compared to Martin’s Meadows and Northwoods Preserve. As
more information is attained, that can be added in later.
The Commission reviewed the Management Tasks Summary table. The group agreed that the
trail system is the highest priority. Mr. Kytonen indicated he’d be getting quotes on clearing a
trail in the open space with a forestry mower. A GPS system was utilized in the summer to mark
off the approximate location of the trail.
Commissioner Faherty asked whether or not a kiosk was in the works. Mr. Kytonen indicated
that he hadn’t heard from any Eagle Scouts looking for projects. Commissioner Faherty
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mentioned she’d do some checking on this. Commissioner Dirkswager suggested putting a teaser
on our Facebook page about the group looking for volunteers to do a kiosk.
Chairperson Sabel asked about the invasive species on the site. Commissioner Jarson opened the
Ecological Assessement and indicated Critical Connections stated buckthorn and prickly ash
were present in the site. Commissioner Kovich asked about oak wilt. Mr. Kytonen stated he
wasn’t aware of any active oak wilt.
Commissioner Jarson asked about the description portion of the manage native species task, and
whether or not there was a central wetland and adjacent wetlands. Commissioner Kovich
indicated there was a central wetland. Mr. Kytonen mentioned that some of those items were
inadvertently left in there as a “placeholder” from the Northwoods Preserve Plan and it needed a
little tweaking. For example, there were no adjacent wetlands in Maple View and no prairie to
speak of. The last two items should have been maintain open upland areas and remove old
wildlife food plot in the north central part of the open space.
The Commission recommended deleting these sections and letting the food plot grow back
naturally.
d. Dalske Woodlands
Mr. Kytonen opened up the plan on the smartboard. Commissioner Dirkswager acknowledged
that the Management Tasks Summary had been broken down into high priority and low priority
tasks. The Commission reviewed the table.
Chairperson Sabel suggested the signage needs to be updated and positioned correctly. She also
stated that a larger sign needs to be placed off of the main road (Palm Street), so folks know
exactly where the open space is.
The group discussed where a kiosk could be placed in the future. Mr. Kytonen said right east of
the wetland, a landing could be created so folks would know where to enter the open space. The
thought would be to create a trail to the “open” woodland areas. Signage would be needed to
direct users to an area hoped to be the boardwalk over the ditch.
The boardwalk was discussed in detail. Commissioner Kovich suggested it be moved from a low
priority to a high priority task. Chairperson Sabel asked if $25K would be enough to fund it. Mr.
Kytonen indicated it’s about right for a 30-40 foot boardwalk over a ditch. Commissioner
Kovich asked about a bridge instead of a boardwalk. Mr. Kytonen stated something has to be
done to allow users to access the entire open space. Chairperson Sabel thought this could be put
in the 2018 CIP plan. Mr. Kytonen indicated the City could potentially apply for a grant to help
fund the improvement over the ditch. Commissioner Van Hecke asked about approval from
watershed for this. Mr. Kytonen stated the Lower Rum River Management Organization would
have to approve the proposal.
Commissioner Faherty asked about the deadfall/hazardous trees, and if that was part of routine
maintenance and how it could be funded. Mr. Kytonen indicated staff could at least cut some of
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the dead trees down and remove the hazard. Perhaps a logger could be found and could cover the
entire area if enough product was there to make it feasible.
KIOSK SIGNAGE UPDATE
This item was moved up and discussion began, as Commissioner Dirkswager and Mr. Kytonen
worked to upload and show on the smartboard the comprehensive list for all the open spaces.
Commissioner Faherty summarized the draft map she created that Mr. Kytonen printed out and
dispersed to the group. She thought that on the third side of the kiosk, pictures of some of the
rare and unique features could be posted. The group commended her for her efforts.
Commissioner Faherty noted that the kiosks were in need of some maintenance, as the needed to
be sanded and stained. Commissioner Van Hecke once again reference graffiti concerns at
Martin’s Meadows. Mr. Kytonen indicated he’d work closely with Parks staff to ensure
adequate, routine maintenance is performed.
BEGIN TO DEVELOP OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PRIORITY LIST FOR ALL OPEN
SPACES
Chairperson Sabel indicated she met with City Administrator Jim Dickinson to discuss funding
high priority activities in the open spaces. She summarized the meeting and explained that the
Commission would need to propose select activities and request they be included in Capital
Improvement Plans (CIPs) for each given year.
Based on the discussion of the four open spaces’ management plans, Commissioner Dirkswager
had taken notes and compiled a spreadsheet during the meeting. She separated a dozen or so
activities that were high priority and reliant on supplemental funding of some sort (and not
necessarily routine activities that could be done in-house). These were activities that could be
proposed to be in CIP’s.
Commissioner Faherty noted that highest priority activities are those creating access for users
and those that promote public safety. The Commission went thru the list and rated the proposed
activities. There were a total of 7 activities rated (5 were removed from the list); one was the
highest and 7 was the lowest priority. The highest priority task was to install the
boardwalk/bridge over the ditch in Dalske Woodlands and the second was to remove the
hazardous trees in Dalske Woodlands.
Chairperson Sabel requested the group table the rest of the agenda and continue discussion at the
next meeting in January 2017.
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Kovich, Second by Commissioner Dirkswager to adjourn the meeting
at 8:27 p.m. Motion passed 6-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Kameron Kytonen
Natural Resources Technician
Drafted by:
Kameron Kytonen
Agenda
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Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
Meeting Agenda
November 16, 2016
Andover City Hall
Conference Room A&B
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Approval of Minutes: September 14, 2016 Regular Meeting
4. Accept Dalske Woodlands Ecological Field Assessment and Vegetation Survey Prepared
by Critical Connections Ecological Services, Inc.
5. Final Management Plan Discussion and Approval
a. Martins Meadows
b. Northwoods Preserve
c. Maple View
d. Dalske Woodlands
6. Begin to develop overall comprehensive priority list for all Open Spaces
7. Discussion of grant opportunities
8. Website discussion: What do we want on there?
a. Management Plans?
b. Pictures?
c. Other?
9. Kiosk Signage Update
10. Other Business
a. Next meeting: January 11, 2017 at 6:00 pm
11. Adjournment
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