Nature Preserve Commission
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · November 13, 2019
Minutes
REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 13, 2019
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
Acting Chairperson Kim Kovich at 6:10 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Anna Dirkswager (arrived at 6:37 p.m.), Joy Faherty, Ryan
Ingebritson, Jim Olson, and Gretchen Sabel (arrived at 6:29 p.m.)
Commissioners absent: Brian Perra
Also present: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
RESIDENT FORUM
No one wished to address the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES – September 4, 2019
Motion by Commissioner Faherty, Second by Commissioner Olson, to approve the minutes of
September 4, 2019. Motion passed 4-0.
DISCUSS MAPLE VIEW GRANT (PARTNERSHIP WITH GREAT RIVER GREENING)
Mr. Kytonen stated that Great River Greening completed some spraying of the understory
recently in attempt to remove unwanted invasive vegetation. He stated that they will go back in
the spring to remove some additional invasive vegetation and enhance the applicable areas with
native vegetation. He noted that the grant runs for a two-year period and therefore there will be
continued treatments and activities.
DISCUSS STATUS OF DALSKE WOODLANDS BOARDWALK
Mr. Kytonen reported that the City Engineer stands behind the need for a boardwalk design
similar to the boardwalk on Crosstown Boulevard for safety and maintenance needs. He
provided an estimated cost of $100,000.
Commissioner Olson commented that cost is more than what was paid for the land.
Mr. Kytonen stated that there could be a discussion between the Commission and Council to
determine if there would be support from the Council for a lower grade boardwalk.
Acting Chairperson Kovich commented that the boardwalk would not receive a large amount of
foot traffic.
Commissioner Faherty stated that it appears that if there was a bridge to access that southern
portion that would add about one third more area to the preserve.
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Commissioner Olson asked if the City has reviewed the possibility of purchasing another
property to provide access as that most likely would have a lesser cost.
Acting Chairperson Kovich commented that attempting to purchase the property to the south has
been previously mentioned by the Commission. He noted that would most likely be a better
option as it would provide additional land as well.
Commissioner Olson commented that the boardwalk would provide zero value to open space.
He stated that perhaps the City could approach the property owner to determine if there would be
interest.
Acting Chairperson Kovich agreed that is something that should be discussed with the Council as
that would provide additional land and an access from 177th at a portion of the cost that a
boardwalk would have. He confirmed the consensus of the Commission to discuss that option
with the City Council at a joint meeting. He noted that the City also has wetland credits
therefore perhaps a little filling could be done to make the crossing much easier.
Commissioner Olson agreed that there are a lot of ideas that have perhaps not been discussed
with the Council.
It was confirmed that the Commission would like to discuss the following options with the
Council: a less expensive boardwalk; purchasing land to the south to provide access and
additional area in the preserve; and potentially using City owned wetland credits to fill portions
of the wetland to reduce the size of the crossing.
Chairperson Sabel arrived.
DISCUSS LOGISTICS FOR NATURE PRESERVE TOUR WITH QCTV
Mr. Kytonen stated that he spoke with QCTV staff and they would be open to participating in a
spring tour.
Chairperson Sabel stated that she would be willing to go skiing or snowshoeing on one of the
tours. She noted that QCTV would also like someone from the Commission to participate in the
Live and Local program on December 11th at 11 a.m. She volunteered to attend.
Mr. Kytonen confirmed that he could provide Chairperson Sabel with talking points for the Live
and Local program. He noted that planning for the spring tours can wait.
Commissioner Kovich noted that he would be interested in doing Martin’s Meadows again for
the spring tours.
Commissioner Dirkswager arrived.
It was the consensus of the Commission to participate in spring tours with QCTV. Chairperson
Sabel noted that she would also be willing to do a winter tour.
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DISCUSS ITEMS FOR JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL
Commissioner Kovich reviewed the list of items discussed at the last meeting as possible topics
for the joint meeting: the Dalske boardwalk, specifically the options discussed earlier tonight;
clarification on the east access for Martins Meadows, the desire would be to formalize that; a set
schedule for the Commission to meet every three months, four times per year; requesting open
space to be included in developments, similar to park dedication; and the mission of the
Commission.
Commissioner Dirkswager stated that it would be helpful to prioritize the list of items to ensure
that the most important items receive sufficient time for discussion. She asked if funding would
be discussed. She stated that she would like to know if the desire of the Council would be to rely
solely on grants for maintenance and other activities.
Mr. Kytonen stated that there are open grant funds being used at this time.
Commissioner Olson stated that perhaps that should be asked, if there could be an annual budget
for open space that would not be used to buy land but would be used to manage the land.
Commissioner Kovich stated that currently the City does a great job of maintaining the open
space areas and he would be hesitant to ask for more. He explained the Commission would need
more concrete information to request general funding. He stated that funding could be a point of
discussion during the Dalske boardwalk discussion. He suggested that the Commission meet in
March, June, September and December continuing to meet the second Wednesday of the month.
Mr. Kytonen reviewed the options for meeting with the City Council at either a workshop or
prior to an EDA meeting. He noted that Council workshops can be a challenge with the number
of agenda items and therefore perhaps meeting prior to an EDA meeting would be the better
choice.
Commissioner Kovich stated that the Commission would meet next in March and could then
meet with the City Council as soon as possible after that meeting. He noted that the proposed
agenda would be finalized at the March Commission meeting.
Mr. Kytonen stated that the grant application for the boardwalk is due at the end of February,
which is prior to the joint Council meeting. He noted that it would be helpful to have
information on the structure of the boardwalk for the grant application.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the grant application should be submit with the
current information known for the proposed boardwalk.
Commissioner Kovich stated that if Mr. Kytonen believes it would be helpful to meet in January,
he could call a Commission meeting prior to that time.
Mayor Trude stopped in and thanked Chairperson Sabel for the excellent work and for her
dedication to the Commission.
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DISCUSS PURPOSE/MISSION OF OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION (OSAC)
Mr. Kytonen provided an update on the process that was used to gather input from the
Commissioners and develop the bullet points created by Commissioner Faherty. Commissioner
Perra started the discussion after the last OSAC meeting and comments followed from there.
The Commission supported the mission as presented. It was confirmed that this would be shared
with City Council and would be posted on the City website.
Chairperson Sabel confirmed that the mission could be shared on the Live and Local program
segment. She noted that she can also announce the openings on the Commission in attempt to
gain additional applicants.
The Commission provided some slight grammatical changes to the mission.
Motion by Commissioner Kovich, Second by Commissioner Dirkswager, to adopt the mission
with the grammatical changes mentioned. Motion passed 6-0.
COMMENTS FROM THE OUTGOING CHAIR
Chairperson Sabel stated that she will be moving on as her term is expiring.
Commissioner Dirkswager echoed the thanks provided by Mayor Trude and thanked
Chairperson Sabel for her contributions to the Commission.
Mr. Kytonen thanked Chairperson Sabel on behalf of City staff.
OTHER BUSINESS
a. Next Meeting: March 11, 2020
Noted.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 7:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kameron Kytonen
Natural Resources Technician
Drafted by:
Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary
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Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
Meeting Agenda
November 13, 2019
Andover City Hall
Conference Room A&B
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Approval of Minutes: September 4, 2019 Regular Meeting
4. Discuss Maple View Grant (Partnership with Great River Greening)
5. Discuss Status of Dalske Woodlands Boardwalk
6. Discuss Logistics for Nature Preserve Tour with QCTV
7. Discuss Items for Joint Meeting with City Council
8. Discuss Purpose/Mission of Open Space Advisory Commission (OSAC)
9. Comments from the Outgoing Chair
10. Other Business
a. Next meeting?
11. Adjournment
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