Park & Recreation
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · March 19, 2015
Minutes
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 19, 2015
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chair Stenzel on March 19, 2015 at 7:00 p.m. at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Vice Chair Jim Lindahl, Commissioners Ted Butler, Sarah
Elstrom, Angela Marinello, and Mark Miskowiec
Commissioners Absent: Commissioner Alisa Lewnau
Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
No one appeared to address the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Butler, seconded by Commissioner Lindahl, to approve the
minutes of the February 5, 2015 on a 6-ayes, 0-nays, 1 absent (Lewnau), 0-present vote.
CONSIDER 2015 APPLICATION FOR SCHEDULED USE RECREATIONAL
FACILITIES/ANDOVER HIGH SCHOOL FAST PITCH BOOSTER CLUB
The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to consider the application for
scheduled use of recreation facilities as requested by the Andover High School Girls Fast
Pitch Booster Club. The application submitted by the Booster Club (9A/9B/B-
Squad/JV/Varsity) requests to play fast pitch softball games at Sunshine Park on fields 1-
4 on Friday, May 8th from 1:00 p.m. – 10:00 p.m. This request does not conflict with any
of the youth tournaments, as none are scheduled for that weekend. Since this is a one-day
request, it is recommended to waive the guideline requirements to use this facility.
Mr. Wayne McPhillips, representing the Andover Fast Pitch Booster Club, stated every
year when applying for the fields for games they have also promoted the games in
conjunction with youth night. Commissioner Lindahl stated the City may wish to make
an allowance in writing for the waiving of the fees for applications such as this. This
should be discussed at a future Commission meeting.
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Motion by Commissioner Lindahl, seconded by Commissioner Marinello, to approve the
2015 application for scheduled use of recreational facilities as requested by the Andover
High School Fast Pitch Booster Club. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-nays, 1-absent
(Lewnau) vote.
CONSIDER 2015 SPRING/SUMMER SOFTBALL/BASEBALL SCHEDULE
Mr. Haas reviewed this item and the Park Commission is to consider approval of the
2015 spring/summer softball/baseball schedule. The City has received two applications
for use of the fields for the upcoming season from the Andover Athletic Association
(AAA) and the Andover Baseball Association (ABA). AAA has indicated that they
would like to maintain the same arrangement with ABA regarding the use of Sunshine
Park Fields 5 and 6 on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This means ABA would only use these
fields on Tuesdays and Thursdays when they have games scheduled. AAA has also
requested to use Sunshine Park Fields 5 and 6 on Friday nights.
Motion by Commissioner Butler, seconded by Commissioner Miskowiec, to approve the
2015 softball/baseball schedule. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-nays, 1-absent (Lewnau)
vote.
CONSIDER 2015 SPRING/SUMMER SOCCER/LACROSSE SCHEDULE
Mr. Haas reviewed this item and the Park Commission is to consider approval of the
2015 spring/summer soccer/lacrosse schedule. The City has received applications for use
of the fields from North Metro Soccer Association (NMSA) and Andover Area Lacrosse
Association (AALA). NMSA and AALA have met and have agreed on the spring-
summer schedule as proposed. Oak Bluff Park is now open for use but staff recommends
only games (no practices) to be played through the end of June. Having only games
played at this park will help in establishing turf as the field was reseeded last summer.
Motion by Commissioner Marinello, seconded by Commissioner Miskowiec, to approve
the 2015 spring/summer soccer/lacrosse schedule. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-nays, 1-
absent (Lewnau) vote.
REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS
Mr. Haas reviewed the outstanding items providing updates on completed projects,
on-going projects, Task Force updates and other items of interest.
CHAIR’S REPORT
Commissioner Lindahl noted the fields are not open yet so no use is recommended.
Commissioner Butler reminded residents to drive carefully as children and adults are out
riding bikes.
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ADJOURNMENT OF REGULAR MEETING
Motion by Commissioner Lindahl seconded by Commissioner Butler, to adjourn the
regular meeting at 7:10 p.m. Motion carried on 6-ayes, 0-nays, 1-absent (Lewnau) vote.
The Workshop Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to
order by Chair Stenzel on March 19, 2015 at 7:10 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Vice Chair Jim Lindahl, Commissioners Ted Butler, Sarah
Elstrom, Angela Marinello, and Mark Miskowiec
Commissioners Absent: Commissioner Alisa Lewnau
Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas
Others
MEET WITH ASSOCIATIONS REGARDING FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
PLAN
The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to meet with the associations
regarding the future Capital Improvement Plan (CIP). Staff notified the associations on
February 6, 2015 regarding this upcoming workshop so they would have enough time to
meet with their individual association boards to discuss the improvements that are
necessary, such as new fields, upgrades to existing parks/facilities and other park
improvements that may be needed.
Mr. Haas noted some of the improvements that are being requested may need to be
considered as part of the Park Comprehensive Plan if it is determined by the Commission
not to include the improvements in the 2016-2020 CIP.
In attendance at the meeting were:
David Tarleton, North Metro Soccer Association
Twila Hauck, Andover Football Association & Andover Area Lacrosse Association
Jason Strasser, Andover Athletic Association
Jason Saulsbury, Andover Baseball Association
Mark Chevalier, Andover Huskies Youth Hockey Association
Chair Stenzel thanked the association representatives for coming to the meeting this
evening. He stated the input received tonight will be considered by the Commission when
looking at the CIP.
Ms. Twila Hauck, representing Andover Football Association (AFA) and Andover Area
Lacrosse Association (AALA), stated they are in need of more space for storage for
football and the soccer association is in need of their own building for their storage. The
football association storage is currently in one of garages at Prairie Knoll Park and the
soccer association uses the other garage at Prairie Knoll Park. AALA stores equipment at
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Sunshine Park building on the 2nd floor and the storage for them is sufficient. As far as
the POD at Prairie Knoll Park this is rented by AFA from summer through fall. Mr. Haas
stated that POD at Sunshine Park is used by the various associations from spring through
fall and is stored at Public Works during winter months.
Mr. Jason Saulsbury, Andover Baseball Association, stated they are fine with their
storage at the Andover Station North (ASN) building.
Mr. Jason Strasser, Andover Athletic Association, stated space is needed for their large
equipment. They would like to see a large gazebo/shelter attached with garage closer to
the main concession building. AAA has been looking at doing some fundraisers for this
building. They would like to have room for picnic tables in the gazebo/shelter area. That
would eliminate the need for a POD for storage.
Ms. Twila Hauck stated the football association is currently renting a POD in addition to
having space in the garage they lease from the City at Prairie Knoll Park and they are
running out of space to store their equipment once the POD has been removed after the
season is over.
Mr. David Tarleton, North Metro Soccer Association President, stated they have $10,000
set aside for storage in the future. They would be willing to discuss raising some more
funds.
Commissioner Butler asked if storage for soccer was constructed at Pine Hills North
would that be enough space for football at Prairie Knoll Park by taking over the soccer
garage. Ms. Twila Hauck stated that would be closer to having enough space.
Mr. Scott Skrypek, North Metro Soccer Association, stated they would need storage for a
large field painting machine that would need to have a large garage door.
Commissioner Miskowiec asked if storage is a bigger need than additional fields at Fox
Meadows Park. Mr. Scott Skrypch stated field space is always a need. He rents 10-15
fields from school districts and paying close to $10,000 a year for field rentals.
Ms. Twila Hauck stated they are renting fields for lacrosse and football in other cities.
Mr. Jason Saulsbury stated for baseball the first thing would be safety netting as ASN.
They have received estimates and would like to partner with the City on purchasing and
installing nets. They also rent fields from the school districts and would like to see a new
pinwheel type ball field facility be constructed somewhere here in Andover.
Mr. David Tarleton stated the immediate need for soccer is for storage. They also need
fields but they can be found elsewhere. The association is growing.
Chair Stenzel asked how much each association is growing and projected growth for the
next five years.
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Jason Strasser indicated slowpitch softball is falling off a little and fastpitch is becoming
more popular. Some of the fields will need to be transitioned from slowpitch to fastpitch.
Fastpitch uses a baseball size field. Minnesota Youth Athletic Services (MYAS) requires
fencing for the fields that are being used for games.
David Tarleton stated soccer is drawing from more than Andover. The numbers continue
to increase with large growth in competitive soccer. The solid soccer programs draw the
players from wherever they live. There are 50 competitive teams currently. The
competitive players play 3-4 days a week where the recreation players play 1-2 days a
week.
Jason Saulsbury stated the baseball numbers are leveling off. The trend has been stable
the last 2-3 years.
Chair Stenzel agreed fields are needed but we do not want to have a surplus of fields
down the road.
Scott Skrypek stated the current fields need to be upgraded. There are a number of fields
that if upgraded and irrigated would become more usable.
Twila Hauck stated she is happy to see Andover Lions Park being irrigated. Space is
needed that is usable. The grass is always nice at Sunshine Park in the outfield areas of
the ball fields for the football association to use.
Mr. Haas indicated Fox Meadows Park has a full size soccer field but it cannot be used
due to the poor condition of the field.
Commissioner Butler stated there is money set aside in the Capital Improvement Plan for
irrigation but for the smaller parks.
Chair Stenzel stated the turf consultant that met with the Commission last summer stated
it is best to assign fields to specific sports. Multiple sports use over the years is hard on
the turf of the fields.
Scott Skrypek stated he uses certain fields for only games and others for practices. Goals
are adjusted on the fields to adjust how the fields are laid out to minimize wear and tear
especially near the goals areas.
Mr. Haas stated fields need to be rested and put off-line every once in a while to be
reconditioned or reshaped so having additional available fields helps.
Jason Saulsbury asked about an artificial turf field. Commissioner Lindahl stated the turf
fields are expensive and don’t last forever.
David Tarleton stated they just signed a contract with Adrenaline Sports for $60,000 for
rental space. That money could be used for other things in the future.
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Chair Stenzel stated some associations charge more and some pride themselves on low
cost programs. He wouldn’t like to see the fees increased.
Chair Stenzel asked if there are any other safety issues. David Tarleton stated a meeting
room for the associations would be nice. Commissioner Butler stated the community
center meeting rooms are booked 100% of the time. If the community center was
expanded more meeting space would be included.
Mr. Haas stated there is a meeting room at Sunshine Park that could be used.
Mr. Saulsbury stated dugouts for ASN and roofs of some sort for the benches would be
desired. They are doing some fundraising for this. Commissioner Butler asked what the
cost is for dugouts at ASN.
Chair Stenzel stated costs for these items should be looked at to determine if funding is
available. The Park Commission has another side they are responsible for other than
athletics, which are parks in general. Projects need to be prioritized and he feels safety
issues should have priority. Chair Stenzel noted the hockey association was not
represented at the meeting tonight at the time of this discussion (hockey showed up later
on in the meeting).
Chair Stenzel asked the associations to prepare their wish list and send them to Mr. Haas.
Deric Deuschle, Fastpitch Director stated he instructs the coaches to rake the fields to
maintain the fields and crown when necessary. They would like to have some sort of
storage for rakes, shovels, scoops that can be accessed by the coaches.
Chair Stenzel asked how revenue is generated. Twila Hauck stated they have pulltabs but
football only gets $2,000 a year. Other associations receive funds from the pulltabs.
David Tarleton, North Metro Soccer Association, stated individual teams do fundraising.
Jason Saulsbury stated the baseball association is fee based with some gate fees for
tournaments raise some of the funds.
Chair Stenzel asked if grants are applied for and the consensus was not much. Some
partnerships are with sporting goods companies/stores. Chair Stenzel thanked the
associations for coming in and he stated he would like to see this as an annual event.
After the Park Commission had finished their discussion with the associations, Mark
Chevalier, President of the Andover Huskies Youth Hockey Association (AHYHA),
made an appearance at the meeting late and asked the Commission if they would consider
their wish list.
Mr. Chevalier stated part of their wish list would be more parking capacity at the City
Hall outdoor rinks, lights at Sunshine Park are needed and possibly a street light would
help especially at the driveway at Crosstown Boulevard NW. Crosswalk lights and
pavement markings would be nice but will require approval from the Anoka County
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Highway Department. The association has worked with the Sheriff’s Department to help
with crossing in the past during the jamborees. Mr. Haas stated there is a request for an
underpass for pedestrians and a roundabout at that intersection of Nightingale Street NW
and Crosstown Boulevard NW. There is a request for proposal being prepared for City
Hall/Public Works campus expansion including the Community Center. Mr. Haas will
research to see if a streetlight could be installed on the north side of Crosstown Boulevard
NW.
Mr. Chevalier stated there are some storage needs for rink supplies that could be locked
in a cabinet at rinks with warming houses. At Hawk Ridge Park, the portable warming
house is very small and would not hold teams for practices. Prairie Knoll Park warming
house area is also small.
BEGIN DISCUSSIONS ON 2016-2020 PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN
Mr. Haas reviewed the target date for the draft CIP is June 5, 2015. A projected fund
balance sheet was prepared by the Finance Department for Commission use. The
Commission should pay attention to the status of 2015 end of the year balance. There is a
payment of $18,550 that still needs to be paid to the fencing contractor at Rose Park
along with some reseeding that will need to be done in the spring. If the Commission is
interested in outfield fencing of the two ball fields at Rose Park, the estimate is about
$19,000. If the Commission is interested in upgrading or replacing the existing picnic
shelter, the estimate cost will be approximately $15,000 - $30,000 depending on the types
of materials that are selected for the shelter. Otherwise based on last year’s CIP the other
significant improvement planned for 2016 is Pine Hills North for upgrading the parking
lot with pavement, which will be funded by a combination of Capital Equipment
Reserves ($280,000) and Park Dedication Funds ($120,000).
Mr. Haas stated there are a number of parks that do not have security lights. Public
Works has expressed concern in the past that some of the parks used need to be updated
with a paved surface parking lot throughout the parks system. A list of recommended
park improvements by the Public Works Parks Department was presented for the
Commission to consider. If the Commission is interested in knowing the planned
improvements for all the parks, Section F of the Information Packet (2010 Existing and
Future Park Facilities Chart) was referenced for Commission consideration.
Mr. Haas noted depending on what the Commission would like to recommend for
projects the Finance Department has indicated to the Public Works Department that the
ending fund balance for each of the 5 years should have a minimum positive balance of
$50,000 or more.
Chair Stenzel referred to the Parks Maintenance Department list and Commissioner
Butler stated this is provided every year to the Park Commission.
Commissioner Miskowiec asked what the cost for netting at ASN is and Mr. Haas stated
this has been discussed previously.
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Chair Stenzel asked the Commission to review the information provided in addition to
the input from the associations and bring ideas to the next meeting. It is important to have
a good list to work from. There are some glaring needs that we have heard.
Commissioner Miskowiec stated a well is a big-ticket item and is required for an
irrigation system for a larger park. He asked if there are any parks with city water that
could be irrigated for less money without digging of a well.
Chair Stenzel stated trail connections are also needed in the City. He asked the
Commission if there are things they are passionate about do some research and bring it up
at the next meeting.
Commissioner Lindahl stated a bond referendum was attempted twice in the past the last
time was 2002. This might be an option. If the community center were to do a bond,
perhaps the park improvements could piggyback along with that bond as an option. It was
agreed by the Park Commission to schedule a joint meeting with the City Council
sometime in May (after May 7th) to discuss priority projects and discuss funding since
there will not be enough to go around to complete some of the projects that are being
requested.
Commissioner Butler suggested making a list of uncompleted projects in the parks. Chair
Stenzel would like to see the projects finished and everyone would benefit.
ADJOURNMENT OF WORKSHOP MEETING
Motion by Commissioner Stenzel seconded by Commissioner Lindahl, to adjourn the
workshop meeting at 8:40 p.m. Motion carried on 6-ayes, 0-nays, 1-absent (Lewnau)
vote.
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Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
March 19, 2015
6:15 P.M. Meet at Rose Park in Regards to Fencing of Outfields/Upgrade of
Shelter
7:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Approval of Minutes (2/5/15)
4. Consider 2014 Application for Scheduled Use Recreational
Facilities/Andover High School Fast Pitch Booster Club
5. Consider 2015 Spring/Summer Softball/Baseball Schedule
6. Consider 2015 Spring/Summer Soccer/Lacrosse Schedule
7. Outstanding Items
9. Chair’s Report
10. Adjournment
7:15 P.M. Or Shortly Thereafter Workshop Session
A. Meet with Associations Regarding Future Capital Improvement Plan
B. Begin Discussions on 2016-2020 Park Capital Improvement Plan
C. Adjournment
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