Public Market Advisory Commission
Regular MeetingAnn Arbor, MI · August 15, 2019
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City of Ann Arbor 301 E. Huron St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
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Public Market Advisory Commission
Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:30 PM Larcom City Hall, 301 E Huron St, Second
floor, City Council Chambers
A CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Cacciari callled the meeting to order at 5:32 pm
B ROLL CALL
Present: 4- Alexandra Cacciari, Holly Parker, Lisa Young, and Jeff
Nemeth
Absent: 1- Peter Woolf
C APPROVAL OF AGENDA
D FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTARY (AGENDA ITEMS ONLY) - (3 Minutes per Speaker)
Debi Marx, artisan vendor, requested artisans be allowed 2
permanent stalls. Ann shephard, artisan vendor, thanked PMAC for
addresing artisan issue and likes proposal #4. Christine Schopieray,
artisan vendor, hopes the commission can remaine impartial and
represent all vendors.
E APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
July 18, 2019 PMAC Meeting Minutes
Approved by the Commission and forwarded to the City Council
due back on 9/16/2019
F PRESENTATIONS
G REGULAR BUSINESS (AGENDA ITEMS)
Operating Rule Changes
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Commissioner Nemeth recommended revisiting the wording in the
future to add temporary, or time limits that must be renewed on
decisions made through this provision.
Summary of proposals dealing with artisan stalls
Proposal to add a temporary 13th stall for artisans
After considering all proposals thus far, PMAC passed the following
resolution: RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING
EXCEPTION TO THE FARMERS MARKET OPERATING RULES,
SECTION 5. STALLS, IN ACCORDANCE WITH 5.G.:
[This resolution is subject to City Council’s adoption of the current
proposed change to the Farmers Market Operating Rules, section
5.G., regarding Stalls. If the rule change is not adopted, this
recommendation is null and void.]
Proposal to add a thirteenth stall for artisans that remains in place
on a TEMPORARY basis, until the top 3 artisans leftover after 2019
stall Move Up that have been attending 20+ years receive an annual
stall, after which the total stall number for artisans revert back to 12.
Whereas, the limit of 12 annual stalls for artisan vendors has
resulted in a high discrepancy between the number of years an
artisan remains on the Daily list, vs the number of years a producer
remains on the Daily list before moving up to annual status and
receiving a permanent stall.
Whereas, the number of years the top artisan vendor has been on
the Daily list is more than twice the number of years the top
producer has been on the daily list (23 years vs 10 years). And, once
Stall Move Up is complete for this 2019 year, will be 23 years vs 6
years.
Whereas, there proposed change will take a step toward benefiting
the artisans that are all in the similar situation of having attended
market 20+ years, rather than a temporary change that affects just
one person.
RESOLVED, that the Public Market Advisory Commission
recommends awarding a 13th annual stall to artisan vendors on a
TEMPORARY basis, effective immediately.
RESOLVED, that the addition of the 13th stall for artisans will revert
back to 12 after the top 3 artisans leftover after 2019 stall Move Up
that have been attending 20+ years receive an annual stall.
RESOLVED, that the Public Market Advisory Commission regularly
review vendor makeup and set guidelines for a percentage of each
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type of product represented at the market, at least once every three
years.
Proposal to set percentage guidelines for artisan makeup
RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND SETTING PERCENTAGE
GUIDELINES FOR CONTROLLING THE RATIO OF ARTISAN TO
PRODUCER AT THE TIME OF ACCEPTANCE INTO THE MARKET.
Whereas, the current way of controlling the ratio of artisan to
producer vendors is at the time of moveup to annual stalls, with 12
permanent stalls for artisan vendors and 132 for producer vendors.
Whereas, the market seeks to establish a long term balance
between produce and artisan products that remains consistent over
time.
Whereas, controlling the ratio ONLY with annual stall numbers does
nothing to establish a balance on the daily vendor list, and thus
does not reflect what the market looks like in vendor makeup on any
given day.
Whereas, limiting annual stall numbers for artisans while ignoring
the daily list creates an unfair environment and may result in
unequal treatment of vendors.
Whereas, the goal is to create a fairer and more equal market
environment for all vendors while maintaining an ideal product
balance, which is best done at time of admittance.
RESOLVED, that the Public Market Advisory Commission
recommends controlling the ratio of artisan to producer at the time
of acceptance into the market.
RESOLVED, that the market manager strive for an 8% - 10% cap of
artisans when admitting new vendors, to match the percentage of
annul stalls allocated to artisans and producers (12 out of 144). This
should be calculated not by individual vendor type (1:1 ratio), but by
an average of how many stalls each vendor (annual and daily)
selects on a regular basis.
Emailed public comment
summary of concerns and pros
Summary of concerns:
1. Adding another stall for artisans disadvantages producers, who
we want to encourage. Since we are primarily a food market, that’s
another potentially 2 stalls taken before a producer. Producers need
2-3 stalls together. A greater number of individual annual vendors
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means those stalls get broken up, and producers have more
difficulty getting stalls next to each other. We need to be creating as
many opportunities as possible for new producers on the daily list
to succeed at our market. We have a much smaller number than in
the past and need to build our market up again with vegetables and
plants.
2. The AA Farmers Market is primarily a food market. There is an
artisan market on Sunday, which provides another alternative for
them. Artisans add a great variety, but our primary focus should be
food.
3. A small incremental change, such as that proposed, does more
harm than good. It doesn’t solve the larger problem, and
disproportionately affects only one person. Does this justify a
change to the operating rules? If we make this change, it’s easy to
justify several more changes as well – 2nd stall for artisans, moving
up more to annuals, etc. Why stop here, vs integrating the lists.
Either we should look at making a larger policy change, OR keep the
existing rules in place that have been there for decades.
4. The decision process to arrive at this action was not inclusive or
long enough. Most vendors did not realize it was being considered
until about a month ago, and did not have a chance to weigh in.
That’s ok for small changes to the rules, but something like this
should allow for more input before a decision is made. When the
rules were created, during the mediation, it was with attorneys and
all voices present. Now we are seeking to alter a major decision that
was made through a process that everyone agreed was fair.
5. The decision to change these rules is creating a climate that
rushes us into yet another big decision – 4 stalls for producers.
(how to make that happen is another matter – city code also dictates
# of permanent stalls allowed and not just Market Operating Rules).
There is one voice we haven’t heard from yet – the dailies. They are
the ones who will be negatively affected by any of these changes,
and they also have not been at the table.
6. If we do award artisans another stall and do not find a way to
support producers at the same time, there will be a great deal of
backlash, and we need to consider that effect on the market overall.
7. Although we have heard several (moving) concerns from
artisans, these rules have always been in place and they agreed to
these expectations when deciding to return for the year. We have to
consider the market not just as it is right now, but in the long term
and what it could be 20 years from now. Now the list is moving
quickly, but soon we will get more producers and there will be no
stalls open for moveup until a new group retires. We’ve been at a
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place before where a producer had to wait 20 years before
becoming an annual. The market changes in cycles, and we
shouldn’t leap to change these rules when we are in a down cycle.
Summary of pros
1. This is a TEMPORARY measure that benefits the 3 worst affected
people, and reverts back to the standard rules after that
2. The number of years the top artisan vendor has been on the
Daily list is more than twice the number of years the top producer
has been on the daily list (23 years vs 10 years). And, once Stall
Move Up is complete for this 2019 year, will be 23 years vs 6 years.
3. Adding another annual stall for artisans does not affect the
number of artisans vs producers at market on any given day
4. There are several unassigned stalls and we will not have to deny
a daily producer a permanent stall just because we decide to award
one to an artisan
5. Moving up one more artisan to the annual list does not affect the
current order in which the vendors pick stalls. If we do nothing and
continue as usual, the artisan at the top of the daily list will be
passed over by 9 producers that are currently picking after her
Vendor request for 4 stalls Wed
Proposal to add 4th stall on Wednesdays only
PMAC passed the following resolution:
RESOLUTION TO RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION TO
THE FARMERS MARKET OPERATING RULES, SECTION 5. STALLS,
IN ACCORDANCE WITH 5.G.:
[This resolution is subject to City Council’s adoption of the current
proposed change to the Farmers Market Operating Rules, section
5.G., regarding Stalls. If the rule change is not adopted, this
recommendation is null and void.]
ON WEDNESDAY MARKET ONLY, VENDORS MAY SELECT UP TO
FOUR STALLS DURING THE STALL ASSIGNMENT PROCESS, IN
ORDER OF SENIORITY
Whereas, Wednesdays are never full, and we are seeking ways of
filling out the market and making it look abundant. This is good for
both customers and vendors.
Whereas, the total number of vendors on Wednesdays averages 35
at the busiest time of year, leaving empty stalls even on the main
aisle after stall selection.
Whereas, several regular vendors could use an additional stall to
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display product, which would improve their business, and still leave
plenty of stalls vacant for dailies and those further down on the
seniority list.
Whereas, this is a TEMPORARY adjustment in effect for ONE YEAR,
and must be renewed by a vote from PMAC along with agreement
by the market manager and Community Services Administrator,
because we do not know what Wednesday Market attendance will
be like in the future.
RESOLVED, that the Public Market Advisory Commission
recommends that on Wednesday market only, vendors may select
up to four stalls during the stall assignment process, in order of
seniority.
RESOLVED, that these changes are in effect according to The
Public Market Operating Rules, section 5.G., for one year’s time. At
the September meeting of 2020, PMAC, the market manager and the
Community Services Administrator must agree to renew the
practice, or it will expire automatically.
RESOLVED, that this go into effect the first Wednesday Market of
September, 2019.
RESOLVED, that the manager request anecdotes and data from
vendors at the one year renewal period to assess effectiveness of
this practice.
RESOLVED, that the Public Market Advisory Commission regularly
review vendor makeup and set guidelines for a percentage of each
type of product represented at the market, at least once every three
years.
4th stall Wed map
Vendor request for 4 stalls permanent
Assignment of stalls remaining open after 2019 Move Up
Market manager will give the new annual vendors a chance to select
a 2nd permanent stall. All other leftover stalls will remain open to
decide how to allocate at a later time.
PMAC 2019 Officer Ballots
Commissioner Parker voted new chair. Anonymous vote, all yes.
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H NEW BUSINESS (NON-AGENDA ITEMS)
I REPORTS
Market Manager Report
Received and filed
J SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT (NOT LIMITED TO AGENDA ITEMS)
L ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Cacciari adjourned the meeting at 7:45 pm
All persons are encouraged to participate in public meetings. Citizens requiring
translation or sign language services or other reasonable accommodations may
contact the City Clerk's office at 734.794.6140; via e-mail to: cityclerk@a2gov.org; or
by written request addressed and mailed or delivered to:
City Clerk's Office
301 E. Huron St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
Requests made with less than two business days' notice may not be able to be
accommodated.
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Meeting Agenda
Public Market Advisory Commission
Thursday, August 15, 2019 5:30 PM Larcom City Hall, 301 E Huron St, Second floor,
City Council Chambers
A CALL TO ORDER
B ROLL CALL
C APPROVAL OF AGENDA
D FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTARY (AGENDA ITEMS ONLY) - (3 Minutes per Speaker)
E APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
19-1553 July 18, 2019 PMAC Meeting Minutes
Attachments: July 18, 2019 PMAC Meeting Minutes.pdf
F PRESENTATIONS
G REGULAR BUSINESS (AGENDA ITEMS)
19-1556 Operating Rule Changes
Attachments: Operating Rule Changes.pdf
19-1554 Summary of proposals dealing with artisan stalls
Attachments: Summary of proposals dealing with artisan stalls.pdf
19-1555 Emailed public comment
Attachments: Emailed public comment.pdf
19-1557 Vendor request for 4 stalls Wed
Attachments: Vendor request for 4 stalls Wed.pdf
19-1560 4th stall Wed map
Attachments: 4th stall Wed map.pdf
19-1558 Vendor request for 4 stalls permanent
Attachments: Vendor request for 4 stalls permanent.pdf
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Assignment of stalls remaining open after 2019 Move Up
19-1559 PMAC 2019 Officer Ballots
Attachments: PMAC 2019 Officer Ballots.pdf
H NEW BUSINESS (NON-AGENDA ITEMS)
I REPORTS
19-1561 Market Manager Report
Attachments: Market Manager Report.pdf
J SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT (NOT LIMITED TO AGENDA ITEMS)
L ADJOURNMENT
All persons are encouraged to participate in public meetings. Citizens requiring
translation or sign language services or other reasonable accommodations may
contact the City Clerk's office at 734.794.6140; via e-mail to: cityclerk@a2gov.org; or
by written request addressed and mailed or delivered to:
City Clerk's Office
301 E. Huron St.
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
Requests made with less than two business days' notice may not be able to be
accommodated.
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