Mayor & Commission Meetings
Regular MeetingAthens-Clarke County, GA · September 9, 2021
Minutes
LEGISLATIVE REVIEW COMMITTEE
Thursday, September 9, 2021
Committee Members Present: Committee Members Absent:
Commissioner Allison Wright, Chair Commissioner Mariah Parker
Commissioner Carol Myers Commissioner Jesse Houle
Commissioner Ovita Thornton
Staff:
Blaine Williams, Manager
Niki Jones, Assistant Manager Krystle Cobran, Inclusion Officer
Lisa Pappas, Assistant Attorney Sarah George, Recorder
Visitors:
Travis McCollum, City of Raleigh
Sonya Voelkel, City of Atlanta
Brenda Mills, City of Asheville
Lillian Govus, Buncombe County Government
Jasmine Beach-Ferrara, County Commissioner- Buncombe County Government
Commissioner Wright called the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m.
A. Approval of Minutes:
Commissioner Thornton made a motion to approve the August 26, 2021 minutes. Commissioner
Myers seconded. The motion passed unanimously.
Commission Identified Items of Interest:
B. Determine ideal composition and mission for a local civil rights/human rights
commission, situated to provide support to the Inclusion Office. (Mayor Girtz assigned to
LRC on August 3, 2021)
Niki Jones introduced the topic and summarized the charge and reviewed the timeline. He also
reiterated key questions for consideration that were discussed in the last meeting. Krystle
Cobran outlined the sequence of presentations that will be shared during the meeting.
Travis McCollum, Community Relations Analyst with the City of Raleigh, shared a presentation
on the mission and functions of Raleigh’s Human Relations Commission (HRC), including the
background, current practice in Raleigh, Board/Office accomplishments, and opportunities for
enhancement and current initiatives. Krystle Cobran asked Travis McCollum about what impact
the HRC had on their community. Travis McCollum explained that, in his time with the
department, the impact has been widespread and of great magnitude because of the scope of
the commission being focused on seek impacting the lives of their residents. He named their
Social Equity Book Club and a local bookbag giveaway as two examples of initiatives that
positively impacted the community. Additionally, McCollum advised the Committee to consider
the intersectionality of the issues being addressed. Their department oversees 7 other boards,
and many of the issues the Human Relations Commission tackles are issues the other boards
and commissions are also working on; the boards and commission that have been established
over the years are a direct product of the work of their HRC.
Krystle Cobran inquired as to how their team evaluates the progress of the HRC in Raleigh.
Travis McCollum shared that he believes the importance of their annual retreat cannot be
understated in regards to how they evaluate their work. During this retreat, they meet together for
8 to 9 hours to assess what they worked on and what went well in the last year, as well as to
heed the guidance of their staff’s expertise regarding some meaningful issues that they are
observing residents of Raleigh encountering. In addition to meeting on a monthly basis, there is
also a monthly leadership meeting that staff has with the two co-chairs. In his experience, the
way to assess the work is to remain engaged with each other and with full-time staff to stay
connected to any concerns or thoughts on the work being done.
Niki Jones asked how often the HRC reported to the city council. Travis McCollum explained that
his understanding is that the HRC reports to the city council on an annual basis, shortly after the
work plan is completed. Krystle Cobran requested clarification on whether or not the annual work
plan was developed during the annual retreat. Travis McCollum explained that, while the core
principles and concepts that are going to ultimately evolve into the work plan are developed
during the annual retreat, creating the work plan is a process that typically ends up taking
multiple weeks thereafter.
Krystle Cobran also inquired about what some of the factors are that they consider during the
selection process and what steps they are taking to ensure that there is diversity throughout the
selection process. Travis McCollum shared that the city council is very involved with the selection
process and, ultimately, the members elected to the HRC are at the discretion of the council.
Applications are received from people within the community. The applications are then vetted by
the City of Raleigh’s administrative team, and then they will go before the city council to
determine which applicants will be selected to serve on the HRC. The City of Raleigh’s
organizational values and scope of the board call for diversity and equal representation; city
council is very sensitive to this and reflects that in their selections. Commissioner Myers inquired
as to whether or not they have enough diversity in applicants to allow the city council to select a
diverse group. Travis McCollum explained that, to the best of his knowledge, they do. They tend
to have very diverse representation because of the demographics of Raleigh and the scope of
the work of the HRC. He noted that there may have been times in the past where this was a
challenge, but in his experience it has been a very diverse board and had diverse applicants.
Sonya Voelkel, Constituent Services Specialist with the City of Atlanta, joined the meeting to
discuss the City of Atlanta’s approach to the HRC. Krystle Cobran asked who created the City of
Atlanta’s HRC and what impact it has had within Atlanta. Sonya Voelkel explained the creation of
the HRC for the City of Atlanta was the result of an agreement between the Atlanta City Council
and Mayor. They agreed upon and founded the HRC in 2000. She shared that she believes that
the HRC has provided their constituents strength and helped their ability to unite people of
different backgrounds, beliefs, and cultures around common principles. In her experience, she
has seen a sense of belonging and inclusion. Krystle Cobran requested clarification on whether
the HRC is more advisory or judicial in function. Sonya Voelkel explained that it is more advisory.
They do review individual complaints. The complaint is filed with the Office of Constituent
Services. She shared that she receives and reviews the complaints, as well as conducts the
initial investigation. They make sure that the constituent understands the process clearly, and
she also emphasized the importance of clear communication from the staff member assigned to
receive the complaints.
Krystle Cobran inquired as to how the City of Atlanta evaluates progress with respect to the HRC
and how they assess whether or not the scope needs to be modified. Sonya Voelkel explained
that they have to truly know and see the confirmation and responsiveness from the community,
as well as the community’s awareness that the HRC exists. She noted the HRC had gone to
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great lengths to educate the community about the HRC. They produced and edited a brochure
that was distributed to promote the mission and awareness of the HRC. The responsiveness
from the community and the complaints filed shines a light on and is an important role in
evaluating discrimination experiences. They use the facts and number of complaints received to
establish a review of the potential changes that may be needed. She also advised that it is
imperative to establish guidelines for filing a complaint for progress and resolution.
Krystle Cobran requested information on the factors that are considered in selecting HRC
members in Atlanta. Sonya Voelkel explained that they make certain that the HRC seats remain
full and that all appointments and confirmations are executed in a timely fashion. Their HRC
consists of 7 commissioners; two are appointed by the Mayor, two are appointed by the
President of the City Council, and three are elected by the at-large members of the City Council.
Each commissioner must reside in the City of Atlanta. They select members that reflect the
diversity of the city, including having a balance of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation,
religion, age, and disability, and attention to this should be in alignment with the administration’s
commitment to equity, diversity, and inclusion.
Brenda Mills, Interim Equity and Inclusion Officer with the City of Asheville, joined to share the
City of Asheville’s approach to their HRC. Krystle Cobran inquired about who created the HRC in
Nashville and what impact it has made in their community. Brenda Mills shared that their HRC
was the brainchild of one of their city council members, and he had pushed for the HRC to be
formed in 2016. The Blue Ribbon Committee worked on setting up the protocol for the HRC and
brought their recommendation to their city council. She explained that their HRC is basically an
advisory board, and, ultimately, their city council makes the final decision. She shared that they
have experienced constant turnover on their board, and she advised that they consider who was
being selected for the board and their criteria. She noted that, if the goal was to have a board
that will be making decisions on human relations or discrimination issues, it would be helpful to
have some expertise; examples provided included legal, historic, or purchasing background.
Another lesson she shared was that training is key. Volunteers are being asked to lead each
other, which can be a daunting task. She believes it would have been helpful for them if they
could have had some major training after being selected to the board.
Krystle Cobran inquired about how the HRC evaluated progress and whether or not there has
been any assessment of whether or not the scope needs to change with respect to the HRC.
Brenda Mills shared that the City of Asheville is in the process of looking at all boards and
commissions. She explained that, to the best of her knowledge, they have not assessed their
progress. They are planning a work session in October, which will include training from the city
clerk’s office on how to serve on boards and what kinds of things can and cannot be done. While
the board does have the support of a legal representative, she explained that they are trying to
build capacity in the members of the board. She advised that she cannot stress enough about
the importance of training board members and explaining their mission, as well as helping
develop a work plan.
Krystle Cobran asked how they developed their work plan. Brenda Mills shared that they do not
have a work plan presently, and this was a notable issue. They are working on developing one
now. Krystle Cobran also asked what factors are considered within the City of Asheville when
selecting HRC members. Brenda Mills shared that they ask on the application why they want to
join, but she advised that she believes they should revisit interviewing applicants with city
council. This interview would allow the city council to speak about the direction they would like to
see the HRC go, the objectives of the commission, and provide an opportunity to learn more
about applicant backgrounds.
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Krystle Cobran explained that she understands from what Brenda Mills shared that there had
been a gap between expectations and the reality of the scope of the commission. She inquired
about what factors may have led to that gap and how they are working to close the gap. Brenda
Mills shared that the HRC experienced turnover in staff liaison, which was a big loss for them.
She also noted that they need to start scheduling check-ins; she is observing the need for more
support.
Lillian Govus, Director of Communications and Public Engagement, and Commissioner Jasmine
Beach-Ferrara with Buncombe County Government joined to discuss their approach to
establishing a nondiscrimination ordinance. Krystle Cobran asked what the top three priorities
were when passing their nondiscrimination ordinance. Commissioner Beach-Ferrara provided
some political context that precipitated their nondiscrimination ordinance, including the timeline of
North Carolina legislation changes. They were able to reintroduce this conversation in December
of last year when the state bill that had prohibited these had sunset. She shared that they were
thrilled to work with the City of Asheville on the passage of the city and county ordinances.
Krystle Cobran asked for information on how they are educating their community on the impact
or intended impact. Commissioner Beach-Ferrara explained that a lot of education was needed
around some of the technical aspects of what could happen at the level of a local ordinance.
They added protections around natural hair and hairstyles, and there was an opportunity for
some education around that. There was also, at the broader community level, a range of
opportunities and needs for dialoguing education. They did a long period of outreach and
dialogue with their Chamber of Commerce, which included ongoing dialogue with some key
leaders, as the ordinance was being drafted. After the passage of the draft, they organized a
roundtable discussion with their Chamber of Commerce to address questions; the goal was that
local businesses would feel fully equipped and informed. She explained that the reality was that
most were already complying by virtue of their practices, but there was a desire and need for
people to feel like they really understood what this meant, particularly with the enforcement
piece. She shared they also worked very hard to make this a very public conversation at the
county commission, and they created a lot of opportunities for dialogue and public comment.
Krystle Cobran also inquired about what steps Buncombe County was taking to operationalize
their nondiscrimination ordinance. Commissioner Beach-Ferrara explained that their staff has
done a tremendous job building not only the enforcement scheme but also how that will be
staffed and communicated. Staff made a presentation about how to report an incident through
their online portal as well as through forms. Lillian Govus shared that, from a staffing standpoint,
the number of reports that they were receiving was not very cumbersome, so it was fairly easy to
operationalize. Krystle Cobran requested clarification on what the staffing piece looked like for
their process. Lillian Govus explained that this person is going to not only oversee the responses
to the nondiscrimination ordinance but would also serve as kind of an office administrator role.
They will be reporting to the county manager but will also connect with their new Chief Equity
and Human Rights Officer, which is currently in the hiring process.
Commissioner Thornton inquired about what the role of the county manager would be in their
process. Commissioner Beach-Ferrara explained that an appeal could be made to the county
manager. She explained they tried to structure and implement this in the spirit of education and
mitigation rather than trying to direct it as a punitive, fine-based mechanism. Built within the sort
of due process of the investigation and findings, there is an appeal process that can go to the
county manager’s office. If reconciliation cannot be achieved, the case would go through this
final appeal process with the county manager, staff, attorney, and strategic partnership’s director.
Commissioner Myers complimented the website Buncombe County has made to provide
information on their nondiscrimination ordinance and requested clarification on whether or not
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the investigator was a separate position from the office administrator. Lillian Govus explained
that it was the same position.
Commissioner Myers shared that she learned a lot in this conversation about what to consider in
terms of board membership and the training and support that will be needed, and she requested
further education on the scope and mission of the commissions. Niki Jones shared that further
discussion on the scope will be held at the next meeting. He noted staff could provide the scope
of the jurisdictions the Committee heard from in this meeting. Commissioner Wright agreed that
would be helpful. She explained that she favors the idea of the HRC having an annual work plan
that is approved by the Mayor & Commission. Commissioner Thornton agreed with the need for
further discussion and information on scope. She explained that the presenters gave more
information to consider.
Commissioner Myers requested staff compile a spreadsheet with the scope of each of the
jurisdictions. Niki Jones explained that staff could provide that. Commissioner Wright asked the
Committee if they were amenable to limiting the examples of other jurisdictions to those that
shared information during this meeting. The Committee agreed.
C. Schedule/Agenda Changes
The next LRC meeting is scheduled for September 16, 2021 at 1:00 p.m. and will be held
remotely via WebEx.
Commissioner Myers made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Thornton seconded the motion.
The motion passed by unanimous vote. The meeting adjourned at 2:33 p.m.
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Agenda
Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the September 9, 2021 meeting will be remote.
The regular meeting for the Legislative Review Committee will be available to watch live on
YouTube at link available on the calendar on the ACCGov website.
AGENDA
Legislative Review Committee
Thursday, September 9, 2021
1:00 pm – 2:30 pm
A. Approval of agenda and approval of the Thursday, August 26, 2021 Minutes
B. Commission Identified Items of Interest:
Determine ideal composition and mission for a local civil rights/human rights
commission, situated to provide support to the Inclusion Office. (Mayor Girtz
assigned to LRC on August 3, 2021)
o Presentations from:
City of Raleigh – https://raleighnc.gov/human-relations-
commission
City of Atlanta – https://www.atlantaga.gov/government/mayor-
s-office/executive-offices/office-of-constituent-services/human-
relations-commission
City of Asheville – https://www.ashevillenc.gov/department/city-
clerk/boards-and-commissions/human-relations-commission/
Confirm a Quorum for next meeting
Notes:
Items Assigned - Future Consideration:
Review of regulation of use of gas-powered leaf blowers, including as
pertains to our noise ordinance. (Mayor Girtz assigned to LRC on November
4, 2020)
Items On Hold Awaiting Additional Information:
Review and make recommendations regarding current alcohol serving
opportunities for Special Events on public properties and public rights-of-way
(both free public activities and ticketed events), including flexibility regarding
shape and size requirements of drinking areas, food service requirements,
furniture requirements, and consideration of the ratio of police officers
required per physical size or occupancy, as well as review of areas managed
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by Leisure Services that may be available for Special Events that serve
alcohol. (Mayor Girtz assigned to LRC on February 4, 2020)
Note: The LRC Meeting is open to the public. However, public comments are not
received unless the Committee Chairperson requests that an individual
provides information to the Committee.
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