Civil Service
Regular MeetingBattle Creek, MI · February 27, 2012
Minutes
Official Proceedings of the Battle Creek Civil Service Commission
City Hall
10 N. Division Street
Commission Chambers
Battle Creek, Michigan
February 27, 2012 4:00 P.M.
4:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Jennifer Cappell, Judith Mudge, Gordy Vogt
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Chief Larry Hausman, Susan Bedsole, Vicki Houser, Paul Engels, and Russell Claggett
CALL TO ORDER:
President Cappell called the meeting to order at 4:02 PM and recognized that a quorum was present.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
President Cappell stated that the first order of business was to approve the minutes from the January 23, 2012, Civil
Service meeting. A motion was made by Comm. Vogt, supported by Comm. Cappell, to approve the minutes of the
January 23, 2012, meeting as presented. All yes. Motion carried.
PETITIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
Vicki Houser noted there were no petitions or communications received.
REPORTS
There were none.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
There was none.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. Authorize the City Clerk to proceed with the Fire Battalion Chief testing process
A motion was made by Comm. Vogt, supported by Comm. Mudge, to authorize the City Clerk to proceed with
the Fire Battalion Chief testing process. All yes. Motion carried.
2. Approval of New Service Providers
Susan Bedsole presented a handout regarding information on the Entry Level and Promotional Testing process.
The handout compared the current process to the proposed process with new service providers. Ms. Bedsole
reminded the commission that discussions have occurred for the last few years regarding the organizational
changes at the current provider, PCI, which is not currently providing the level of service that the city expected.
She informed the commission that
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the staff recently met with Dr. Linda Forsberg, of Psybus, of Southfield, MI, regarding the physical portion of the
testing. Ms. Bedsole informed the Commission that Dr. Forsberg had completed some independent research for
companies who could provide the written testing portion and the interview assessments. She also stated that the staff
contacted Dr. Fred Rafilson, I/O Solutions, via a conference call to inquire as to their services. Ms. Bedsole informed
the committee that Paul Engels, Human Resource Director, Susan Bedsole, Community Services Director, Vicki
Houser, City Clerk, Jennifer Rosa, Human Resource Specialist, and Fire Chief Larry Hausman were present during the
phone conference and meeting.
Ms. Bedsole conveyed both Dr. Forsberg and Dr. Rafilson’s recommendation to eliminate the MIA process, instead
recommending individual candidate interviews. She further stated that staff is recommending that the Civil Service
Commission members no longer conduct the interviews, that they should instead be conducted by a panel of three to
six individuals, to include the Fire Chief, a Fire Captain and a representative from the Human Resource office. For
Promotional purposes, staff is recommending individual interviews be conducted by the Civil Service Commissioners
or a third party assessment board.
Comm. Vogt asked if the Fire Department had been involved in the recommended change to the interview process.
Ms. Bedsole stated that it is staff’s responsibility to present the information to the Civil Service Commission for
consideration. Comm. Vogt stated that he was uncomfortable that the change had not been discussed with the Fire
Fighters Union, as a courtesy. Comm. Vogt asked if the new providers would be used for the Battalion Chief
promotional testing. Ms. Bedsole responded that if the new providers were approved prior to the testing, that they
would be used for the promotional testing.
Chris Love, Union President, stated he liked the idea of changing providers, and felt that the Union would support the
change. He further stated that he liked that the HR director would be involved in the interview process, and felt the
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Union could support this if the 3 member of the panel was chosen by the Union. He liked the idea of using a Michigan
Psychologist. He stated that the third component regarding interview assessment boards for promotional interviews,
made up of a group of experienced professionals, would be a good practice, and the panel would have an understanding
of the questions and answers. He stated the Union would not have a problem with moving forward, but would
understand if more time was needed to review information.
A motion was made by Comm. Mudge, supported by Comm. Vogt, to approve the new service providers, I/O Solutions
and Dr. Linda Forsberg of Psybus. Comm. Mudge yes, Commissioners Cappell and Vogt nay. Motion is denied.
A motion was made by Comm. Vogt, supported by Comm. Mudge, to approve the modification of the entry level
interview process. All Yes, motion carried.
A motion was made by Comm. Vogt, supported by Comm. Mudge, to approve the modification of the promotional
level testing process, and to continue to have the Civil Service Commission conduct the interview assessment. All
Yes, motion carried.
The commission asked that the city clerk’s office get additional information to review for a special meeting. Comm.
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Cappell asked that the commission meet no later than March 9 2012. Ms. Bedsole stated she would send additional
information regarding both I/O Solutions and Psybus via email. Ms. Bedsole also stated that a conference call could
be scheduled with I/O Solutions if the commission needed. A special meeting to review new service providers was set
for Friday, March 02, 2012.
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A motion was made by Comm. Vogt, supported by Comm. Mudge, to proceed with the promotional testing.
All Yes, motion carried.
A motion was made by Comm. Vogt, supported by Comm. Mudge, that whenever the Civil Service
Commission seeks a legal opinion on any issue, it will notify the Union contemporaneously with the
submission of its request for the opinion of the City’s attorney and the Union may, at their sole discretion, have
an opinion prepared by Union counsel for submission and consideration of the commission prior to its
determination on the issue in question.
Russ Claggett commented the Civil Service Commission does not have the authority to request the advice of
outside legal counsel. Mr. Claggett further stated that under state statute, the Civil Service Commission has the
support of city staff for all of their needs. For the Civil Service Commission to make a motion that it is
mandatory that information be provided to a third party, Mr. Claggett stated the Commission does not have the
authority to do so. Mr. Claggett further stated the Union does have a Union elected representative on the
Commission, and that individual, as long as it is not privileged or confidential, is free to share information with
the Union that an opinion has been requested. Mr. Claggett also confirmed that if the Union wishes to have
their counsel provide information to the Civil Service Commission, they are welcome to submit information for
consideration. Mr. Claggett further commented that as a member of the board, the commissioners are
indemnified by the City of Battle Creek, not by IAFF Local 335 or by Michael O’Hara or any other attorney.
Mr. Claggett expressed his concern to the Commissioners regarding the loss of the City’s indemnity provisions
if the Commissioners were to rely on a specific legal opinion, or to take an action that is different than the
advice given by the City Attorney. He further stated the Civil Service Commission is a board of the city, and
the Commissioners need to be cautious, especially when looking at legal opinions offered to them. He
reiterated the Union has the right to present information for the commission to consider.
Mr. Love stated the reasoning behind the Union’s request that the Civil Service Commission be afforded an
opportunity to solicit an opinion from the Union’s legal counsel is that the City attorney’s office has an
obligation to best represent the city, but the commission is not the city.
Comm. Vogt yes, Commissioners Mudge and Cappell nay. Motion denied.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
Chris Love requested a copy of updated local rules, not printed since 2000, as soon as possible.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
No commission comment.
ADJOURNMENT:
The Civil Service meeting was adjourned at 5:00PM.
Victoria L. Houser
Victoria L. Houser Civil Service Secretary 3
Agenda
NOTICE OF
MEETING
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2012
4:00 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS – ROOM 301
BATTLE CREEK CITY HALL
10 NORTH DIVISION STREET
BATTLE CREEK, MICHIGAN
A. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
1. January 23, 2012
C. PETITIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS
D. REPORTS
E. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
F. NEW BUSINESS
1. Authorize the City Clerk to proceed with the Fire Battalion Chief testing process
2. Approval of new service providers
i. Written Examination
ii. Physical Examination
3. Approval of modified testing process
i. Entry Level Firefighter
ii. Promotional
G. PUBLIC COMMENT
H. COMMISSION COMMENTS
I. ADJOURNMENT
The City of Battle Creek will provide necessary reasonable auxiliary aids and services, such as signers for the hearing impaired
and audiotapes of printed materials being considered in the meeting upon notice to the City of Battle Creek. Individuals with
disabilities requiring auxiliary aids or services should contact the City of Battle Creek by writing or calling the following:
Victoria L. Houser
Office of the City Clerk
P. O. Box 1717
Battle Creek, MI 49016
(269) 966-3348 (Voice/TDD)
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