Police & Fire Pension
Regular MeetingBattle Creek, MI · March 20, 2023
Minutes
POLICE & FIRE PENSION BOARD MEETING
DATE: MARCH 20, 2023
CITY HALL, ROOM 302A
TIME: 1:30 P.M.
Present: Stan Chubinski, Ed Guzzo, Jake Martin, and Chris Rabbitt.
Also Present: Lily Vardell (Police & Fire Pension Administrator, Jeremy Tollas (CAPTRUST),
Michelle Hull (Human Resources Director), Aaron Kuhn (Assistant Revenue Services Director),
Derek Henning (GRS representative), and Brad Armstrong (GRS representative.)
Chair Chubinski asked for approval of the agenda. Motion Martin, seconded by Guzzo. On a
voice vote, motion carried.
GRS Presentation: Henning and Armstrong provided an Actuarial Valuation report.
• The aspects of information that go into the Annual Actuarial Valuation are as follows:
Covered Member Data, Asset Data, Plan Provisions, Actuarial Assumptions and
Methods, and Funding Policy.
• Actuarial Basic Retirement Funding Equation is: Contribution Income plus Investment
Return needs to equal Benefits Paid plus Expenses Paid.
• As of June 30th, 2022, Total Contributions into the Plan were $7,788,736. Total Benefits
Paid were $12,299,677. Hopefully over time, investment income makes up the gap in
between.
• For 2021, the Market Value of the Portfolio was $186,019,846. After factoring in
investment gains/losses from previous years, the Funding Value for 2021 was calculated
at $165,872,221.
• For 2022, The Market Value of the Portfolio was $157,926,951. After factoring in
investment gains/losses from previous years, the Funding Value for 2022 was calculated
at $170,222,451.
• Unfunded Actuarial Accrued Liability (UAAL) at the beginning of 2021 was $49,583,595.
After factoring in changes to assumptions, plan amendments, etc., the UAAL at the end
of 2021 was $44,976,398.
• UAAL at the beginning of 2022 was $44,976,398. After factoring in changes to
assumptions, plan amendments, etc., the UAAL at the end of 2022 was $59,196,419.
• The City contributions expressed as percentages-of-payroll were 34.87% at the end of
Fiscal Year 2022 and are expected to be 41.34% at the end of Fiscal Year 2023.
• As a result of this year’s Experience Study, the Board adopted an accelerated
Amortization Schedule of 20 years (the previous schedule was 30 years.)
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• Question from the Board: (Page A-4 of the 2022 Valuation) The Valuation Table shows
that our funded ratio percentage has dropped consistently over the last 17 years. What
has driven this change in our funded position?
o Answer from GRS: multiple factors have contributed to the lowered funded
ratio.
Partially due to inflation.
Previous market years with poor performance (i.e. 2003, 2008) can
negatively impact the Funded Ratio and slow its progress over the
following years due to the 30-year amortization schedule. The new 20-
year amortization schedule should help the Funded Ratio bounce back
more quickly in the future.
Wage inflation vs. employer contribution amounts. If wage inflation is
higher than anticipated, it can also reduce the Funded Ratio.
Funding progress can also slow due to the number of active members
contributing to the plan. The number of active members in the plan has
slowly decreased over the past 20 years. There were 215 active
members in 2002 compared to 174 active members in 2022.
More conservative assumptions. For example, the Assumed Rate of
Return decreasing from 6.50% to 6.25%.
• Question from the Board: (Page B-10 of the 2022 Valuation) Page shows
substantial increases in both employer and employee contributions, while
retirement benefits have more than doubled in the last 14 years, suggesting that it is
the forecasted expenditures that have driven the change. Since the # of active
employees has gone down, we must be either paying more to each
employee/beneficiary or projecting increased longevity. Could you please break
down the factors that are driving the expected benefits increase? For example, how
much liability is being driven by contract changes vs. longevity vs. salary levels vs.
other factors you find to be material.
o Answer from GRS:
In 2008, there were 211 retirees and beneficiaries. In 2022 there are
275. So, 64 more members are drawing retirement benefits than 14
years ago.
The more recent retirees are also some of the highest-paid retirees in
the Plan, meaning their monthly pension benefits are significantly
higher than retirees who retired a decade or more ago.
At the same time, the number of active employees contributing to the
Plan has decreased.
In 2015, we were assuming a 7% rate of return. In 2022, we are now
assuming a rate of return of 6.25%.
• Question from the Board: Once you have diagnosed what has eroded our funding
ratio, could you please advise us on how to improve our visibility to these factors so
we can prevent further erosion?
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o Answer from GRS:
Pay attention to the effective remaining amortization periods for the
Unfunded Liability.
GRS can also move the Amortization Schedule to the beginning
section of the Actuarial Valuation in future years, to make it more of a
focal point of the Valuation.
The City could make more of their contributions to the Plan earlier in
the year, rather than spreading contributions out throughout the
year. This would give the contributions a longer time to potentially
increase investment gains within the Plan for the year. If the City’s
contributions for the year are just sitting in the City’s General Fund
for a majority of the Fiscal Year, then they are not contributing to the
Plan like they could if they were deposited into the Plan at the
beginning of the Fiscal Year.
Presented minutes of the regular meeting from February 21, 2023. Motion Guzzo, seconded by
Martin to approve the regular meeting minutes from February 21, 2023. On a voice vote,
motion carried.
Bank Summary of Assets & Expense Report:
As of 2/28/2023, the market value of the portfolio was $159,327,077.73 a loss of $4,520,104.30
from the 1/31/2023 balance.
For the month of February, the following expenses were deducted:
Expense Type Payee Amount Frequency Additional Details
Actuarial Services Gabriel Roeder Smith & As
Fee Co. 1,500.00 Needed EDRO calculation
Administrative Fee Loomis 14.62 As Needed Misc Recovery Expense
Consulting Services CAPTRUST 23,750.00 Quarterly 10/1/22-12/31/22
Misc Fees 10.00 As Needed x1 Class Action Handling Fee
Total Admin. Fees 25,274.62
Motion Martin, seconded by Guzzo to accept the financial reports and quarterly bank
summaries submitted for February. On a voice vote, motion carried.
Board Reports
Chubinski - none
Giannunzio – absent
Guzzo - none
Martin – none
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Vardell
• John Everett, Police Dept retiree, passed away 2/11/23.
o His 3/1/23 payment was returned and replaced with a pro-rated portion for 11
days in February.
o This final payment of $471.76 was made on 3/2/23.
o His surviving spouse, Carlene Everett, is working on completing the necessary
paperwork. Once we receive her paperwork, we will deposit her pro-rated March
benefit payment of $437.07.
o Carlene’s regular benefit payments of $720.00 will begin on 4/1/23.
• Bob Belote, Police Dept retiree, passed away 2/22/23
o His 3/1/23 payments (for both his pension and his surviving spouse pension) were
returned and replaced with pro-rated portions for 22 days in February.
o These final payments of $1,412.37 (Surv Spouse Benefit) & $2,805.50 (his benefit)
were made on 3/9/23.
o His wife passed away in December, so there is no surviving spouse benefit to
calculate.
Old Business
• Fleisher EDRO benefit calculation – status update:
o The alternate payee, Leah, has decided she does not want to have any further
discussion with the attorney or GRS, but would instead like to wait to draw her
benefits until after Mike leaves the DROP program.
o Question for the Board: We have an email from her stating her intention, so
should that be sufficient for stopping the process from moving forward?
Board response: Yes, Leah’s email is sufficient for pausing the process of
issuing her alternate payee pension benefits until after Mike leaves the
DROP program.
o Leah knows she still owes her $750.00 portion of the GRS calculation, regardless
of her decision to wait to draw benefits (Mike already paid his $750.00 for the
calculation.)
o We would like to note in the Fleishers’ file how to handle payment of the future
calculation that Mike will need from GRS once he leaves the DROP.
o Because Leah wanted to begin payments immediately, we had to have GRS
factor her calculation as well as Mike's, which cost $1,500.00.
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o The plan was that when the next calculation was done (when Mike leaves the
DROP) the first $500.00 would be covered (since this would be the amount
covered for a normal P&F member calculation), and any remaining charges
would be split between Mike & Leah.
o If Leah had not made the request for us to calculate her payments now, we
would have had one GRS calculation done for Mike to set up his DROP
payments. GRS charges $500.00 for this type of calculation, and it would be
considered his one 'free' calculation that every P&F member gets. Then, his
second calculation that would have been done when he left the DROP would
have been the $1,500.00 calculation that Leah and Mike would have split.
o Now as it stands, an additional calculation will have to been done when Mike
leaves the DROP, and it will be considered another EDRO calculation, so
potentially could cost another $1,500.00.
o Their EDRO states they have to split any legal/calculation costs, but we were not
sure if that should still stand in this situation, since Mike didn't really get a say in
the additional $1,500.00 charge.
o Excerpt from the EDRO stating charges are to be split 50/50:
o Question for the Board: Should the Fleishers split the cost of the calculation that
will occur when Mike exits the DROP, or should Leah have to pay the full
calculation cost?
Board response: After Mike exits the DROP and a new calculation is
submitted to determine both his and Leah’s pension benefits, the Board
will cover the cost of the retiree’s ‘free’ calculation (current rate is
$500.00.) Any additional charges will need to be paid in full by Leah.
New Business
• Policy Review – Purchase of Military Time
o One grammatical change was made to the Purchase of Military Time Policy.
Motion Martin, seconded by Guzzo to approve the one grammatical change to the Purchase of
Military Time Policy. On a voice vote, motion carried.
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• CAPTRUST: Tollas provided a February investment update:
o U.S. Large-Cap Stocks were down 2.44%. U.S. Small-Cap Stocks were down 1.69%.
Bonds were also down 2.59%.
o Year-To-Date, Large-Cap Stocks are up 3.69%. Small-Cap Stocks are up 7.89%.
Bonds are up 0.41%.
o Total Portfolio Value as of 2/28/23 is $159,327,077.73.
o Year-to-Date, the Retirement System is up 3.16%.
Public Comment - none
Next regular meeting: Thursday, April 20th at 1:00 PM
Meeting adjourned at 3:33pm
Respectfully submitted,
Lily Vardell, Recording Secretary
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Board Member signature Board Member signature
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Agenda
POLICE & FIRE PENSION BOARD MEETING
DATE: MARCH 20, 2023
CITY HALL, ROOM 302A
TIME: 1:30 P.M.
AGENDA
Call to Order
Roll Call
Approval of Agenda
GRS Presentation
Approval of Minutes – Regular meeting held February 21, 2023.
Bank Summary of Assets & Expense Reports – February
Quarterly Bank Statement Summary – February
Board/Administrator Reports:
• Chubinski
• Giannunzio
• Guzzo
• Martin
• Rabbitt
• Vardell
Old Business
• Fleisher EDRO benefit calculation – status update
New Business
• Policy Review – Purchase of Military Time
• CAPTRUST
Public Comment
Next meeting: Monday, April 17, 2023 @ 1:30 p.m.
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