City Council
Regular MeetingBlack Earth, WI · September 25, 2023
Minutes
TOWN OF VERMONT PLAN COMMISSION
MEETING September 25, 2023 – 6:00 p.m.
Call to order and posting certification.
Tim called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. The meeting was properly noticed: posted on the front door of
Town Hall, posted on the town website, emailed to the online subscribers, and published in the Mount Horeb
Mail and Star News.
Present: Tim Pierce, Dean Bossenbroek, Jim Elleson, Doug Meier, Scott Moe
Absent: Nick Balster, Diane Anderson
Approval of agenda
Doug moved and Scott seconded a motion to approve the agenda. Motion carried 5-0.
Approval of August meeting minutes
Doug moved and Jim seconded a motion to approve the August meeting minutes. Motion carried 5-0.
Public Input/General Comments
None.
Chair’s Report
• Barb Grenlie’s public hearing with Dane County zoning is on September 26th. The Staff reports were
provided to the PC. It was noted that Dane County Zoning staff used the description language of
“transfer of development right” on the report. Vermont Township does not do Transfer of Development
Right and this is a wording issue.
• Timesheet Reminder
• Jack has a Measuring Wheel that may be available for PC site visits in the future.
• 4752 Old Indian Trail – Received an inquiry from the new owner’s builder representative as the
previously approved Building Envelope and Driveway are being proposed to move. The driveway permit
has also expired. A site visit will be needed along with an updated LUIF. The Chair will also request the
applicant have a conversation first with the potential driveway easement landowner on a willingness to
allow the new driveway location.
Jerome & Jacqueline Helmenstine – Informational discussion on property
• Owned property has a total of 9 PDRs. 7 available and 2 used by existing residences.
• Interested in rebuilding/replacing a new residence on the lot of parcel 060/0706-061-8705-3 which
contains 1 of the 2 used PDRs as well as expanding the lot. The lot may be expanded but the house
would need to be rebuilt within the current parcel to not “transfer a development right”, which is not
allowed
• Other considerations: 4 houses are allowed per shared driveway; Can only do 4 splits every 5 years,
consider driveway grade maximum of 13%, maximum side slope of 30%, Ridgetop height limit of 28'
Ridgetop Protection Enforcement Option – Discussion and Possible Recommendation to the Board
• Updated Ridgetop Map is not yet available.
• Scott moved and Doug seconded a motion to table. Motion carried 5-0
Plan Commission Site Visits and Adjoining Property Owner Notification – Discussion
• Current Procedure: Site visits are posted in the paper, online, mailing list, and at the Town Hall. An
agenda is sent out to adjacent landowners prior to the Board meeting, however with no additional
details why it is being sent out. If this is a rezone or CUP Dane County will notify neighbors of the
public hearing.
• It was questioned when the Town began sending board agendas to neighbors as that was not a
previous practice.
• The consensus was to continue the practice of following State and County rules regarding
notification
• If we are going to continue the current notifications they should include something like "you are
receiving this because your neighbor is on the agenda".
Agricultural Building Approval Process – Continued Discussion
• An update was provided on the status of the Underwoods' request and the latest communications
from the Zoning department.
• Discussed the current zoning ordinance language and options for the Town to consider.
• Doug moved and Scott seconded “The Plan Commission request assistance from the Town Board to
assist landowners who want to construct an Agriculture Accessory Building to support Forest
Management to get approval from County Zoning.” Motion carried 5-0
• Jim Elleson will also follow up with a phone call to Roger Lane to seek additional information in the
next few days.
Solar Energy Ordinance.
• Continued working on the proposed ordinance.
• An updated version with fixed formatting will be sent out to the PC members prior to the next meeting
Comprehensive Plan Review – Working Topic
• Timeline and Process – per Board motion the plan revision must be completed and approved by the end
of 2025.
• Based on the timeline the Plan Commission has approximately 24 meetings before moving up to the
Board for approval
• Future agendas will specifically detail which sections are planned to be discussed. PC members may be
given special work assignments along the way to prepare commentary for the next sections to be
covered.
• An updated “Then and Now” document was distributed to the PC and will be presented formally next
meeting. David Stanfield requested action by the PC at the next meeting supporting the project being
utilized as part of the Comprehensive Plan update.
Agenda items for the next meeting.
Ridgetop protection
Comprehensive plan review
Solar energy ordinance
Then and Now project
4752 Old Indian Trail
Agriculture Building Approval Process
Next meeting date
October 23, 2023, at 6:00 p.m.
Adjournment.
Scott moved and Dean seconded a motion to adjourn. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting was adjourned at 8:11
p.m.
Tim Pierce, Plan Commission Chair
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