City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · November 3, 2011
Minutes
10801 Town Square Drive
City of Blaine Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, November 3, 2011 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 6:30 p.m. Quorum
Present.
ALSO PRESENT: Clark Arneson, City Manager; Bryan Schafer,
Community Development Director; Bob Therres, Public Services
Manager; Joe Huss, Finance Director; Ward Brown, Budget/Fiscal
Analyst, Tom Sweeney, City Attorney; Jean Keely, City Engineer;
Chris Olson, Safety Service Manager/Police Chief; Roark Haver,
Communications Technician; Al Thorp, Senior Engineering
Technician; Jane Cross, City Clerk; and Recording Secretary Linda
Dahlquist.
Present: 7 - Councilmember Clark, Councilmember Kolb, Councilmember Bourke,
Councilmember Herbst, Mayor Ryan, Councilmember Hovland, and
Councilmember Swanson
1. TMP 11-0182 WALMART / BALL ROAD PROPOSAL
Community Development Director Shafer stated Walmart has reached an agreement
with Marty Harstad to purchase 24 acres on the southeast side of I35W and
Lexington Avenue. Walmart is proposing to build a new 150,000 square foot facility
similar, almost identical, to the approved Walmart location to be built along Highway
65. Walmart would move the store from The Village to the new location and market
the old site for re-use. The potential re-use is not known at this time. The purpose of
the workshop is to gain background on the project, the impact it will have on Ball
Road, Lexington Avenue and the immediate residential neighborhood to the south,
what the road re-design option are and how Walmart intends to manage these
issues.
Councilmember Clark asked if this project will require a Conditional Use Permit.
Community Development Director Schafer responded it is a planned business district
which does require a conditional use permit, but not rezoning. He stated there will be
lots and outlots for subdivisions of the development.
Eric Miller, MFRA, civil engineering consultants for this project, stated MFRA works
with Walmart on projects in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and North Dakota. He stated
MFRA has been working with Walmart for several years expanding existing stores
and developing new stores that offer a full complement of their services including
groceries which is a significant part of Walmart’s business model. He stated MFRA
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built the store in The Village and that store is referred to as a Division One store
which is a general merchandise store with limited groceries. Walmart is expanding
its Division One stores to offer full groceries and general merchandise. Mr. Miller
stated the request to relocate the store from The Village is for this purpose. He
stated MFRA has held meetings with City staff, MDOT, Anoka County and the Rice
Creek Watershed District. He stated in preparation of a City application, a
comprehensive traffic study was conducted. He stated Ball Road is currently a two
lane, rural roadway that will need to be upgraded significantly to serve a development
of this scale to accommodate the traffic. MFRA is preparing to submit an application
to the City.
Mike Spack, traffic engineer with Spack Consulting, stated in August, Spack
Consulting met with City staff and MDOT to discuss a traffic study. He stated the
conclusions of the traffic study focused on Ball Road. He stated a left turn lane will
be needed for entrance into the development from Ball Road. The main
recommendation is for a three lane road with a left turn in the center. He stated
MFRA’s recommendation is to reduce to size of the driving lanes in order to reduce
speeds.
Councilmember Clark asked what is the traffic count on Ball Road. Mr. Spack
responded 2,000 per day. Councilmember Clark asked what is the count estimated
to be. Mr. Spack responded the estimated traffic count would be 12,000-13,000 per
day.
Councilmember Swanson asked about the current traffic heading west on Ball Road.
Mr. Spack responded the current traffic volumes are light.
Councilmember Bourke asked how close is the nearest home from Hupp Street.
Councilmember Clark commented there is a house on the corner. Mr. Miller
responded three streets connect into Ball Road. He stated Ball Road is a State Aid
Road and it is designed to accommodate the added traffic. He commented the wider
the road, the higher the speed. He stated MFRA is looking to have eleven foot lanes
to keep sound and speed down.
Councilmember Bourke asked about the residents’ ability to get in and out of their
driveways. Mr. Spack stated it will take the residents longer to get out of their
driveways.
Mayor Ryan asked what the traffic volume impact will be compared to the current
Walmart? Mr. Spack responded approximately 20 percent more vehicles.
Councilmember Herbst asked if a driveway onto Lexington is a possibility. Mr. Spack
responded it is not allowed.
Councilmember Hovland stated he is not in favor or medians, but he is in favor of
mutual turn lanes. He is also in favor of moving the driveway to the intersection of
103rd Court NE. He stated a traffic signal installed sooner would be important versus
later. He asked if the traffic study included bus stops and pedestrian movement in
the neighborhood. Mr. Spack responded no sidewalks are currently on the road. He
stated a trail system would be an improvement. Mr. Spack stated Hupp Street is the
safest location for the Walmart driveway due to the curve of the road.
Councilmember Kolb stated the wait time of the residents trying to get out of their
driveways will be significant. She asked what will happen to the original store.
Councilmember Swanson asked about the other buildings on the map. Community
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Development Director Schafer responded they are proposed small business
buildings.
Councilmember Clark asked if the traffic study included the small business in the
traffic study. Community Development Director Schafer responded yes the study
includes traffic to these businesses.
Mayor Ryan stated the traffic signal is important for this project.
Councilmember Swanson stated the plan for a neighborhood meeting the week of
Thanksgiving is not good. Mr. Miller responded they will reschedule the meeting.
Councilmember Clark asked about a future signal at Hupp Street. He asked how
much traffic would justify a signal light. Mr. Spack responded increased business
development to the east would necessitate a signal light. Councilmember Herbst
shared concern that if the signal light does not go in right away, it may not go in at all.
Councilmember Clark stated he would like to see the driveway closer to Lexington
Avenue. He stated he is not comfortable with the current traffic plan.
Mayor Ryan stated the signalization is important to this project.
Councilmember Hovland asked about the trucks and the loading dock area. He
asked if the trucks could back in to have their headlights face the freeway, the trucks
driving around to exit and noise from idling trucks are items to address.
Mayor Ryan stated a public hearing will be scheduled and the neighborhood will
receive notification letters in the U.S. mail. Councilmember Clark asked to include
the neighbors on Marmon Street in the notification letter mailing.
Discussed
2. TMP 11-0183 2012 GENERAL FUND BUDGET UPDATE
Finance Director Huss stated on September 1, the City Council adopted the 2012
Preliminary General Fund Budget and the 2012 Preliminary Tax Levy. The Budget
was approved pursuant to Council direction at the August 18 Workshop. He stated
adjustments have been made since the adoption of the Preliminary Budget, most
notably with the acceptance of four retirements under the Voluntary Separation
Incentive Program and some expenditure adjustments have allowed a reduction in
the reserve drawdown in the Proposed Budget. Mr. Huss commented Blaine’s costs
of services are lower compared to other cities. He mentioned there is a 2% drop in
the residential tax base in 2012 due to legislative action and the City’s actual tax
capacity has dropped significantly.
City Manager Arneson stated cities do alternate from paying and receiving funds from
the Fiscal Disparities Program.
Councilmember Herbst asked to see the proposed funds statement the City will
receive. Finance Director Huss responded the statement comes from Anoka County.
City Manager Arneson responded Anoka County will mail the statements on
November 15, so the Council should have the statement for review at the Council
meeting on November 17.
Councilmember Herbst stated the residents need to know it is not the City doing this.
The workshop adjourned at 7:25 pm.
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Adjourned
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