City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · August 8, 2013
Minutes
10801 Town Square Dr.
City of Blaine Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, August 8, 2013 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
Meeting Number 13-38
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 7:00 p.m.
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: Clark Arneson, City Manager; Tom Sweeney, City
Attorney; Pat Sweeney, City Attorney; Bryan Schafer, Planning Director; Bob
Therres, Public Services Manager; Joe Huss, Finance Director; Ward Brown,
Financial Analyst; Chris Olson, Safety Services Manager/Police Chief; Nyle
Zikmund, Fire Chief; Roark Haver, Communications Technician; and
Recording Secretary Linda Dahlquist.
Present: 7 - Councilmember Clark, Councilmember Kolb, Councilmember Bourke,
Councilmember Herbst, Mayor Ryan, Councilmember Hovland, and
Councilmember Swanson
1. WS 13-47 SIGNAGE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
Sponsors: City Manager Arneson
City Manager Arneson stated Fogerty received approval from MnDOT for a
blue way finding sign on Highway 65 and a brown way finding sign for public
attractions at 93rd and Cloverleaf Parkway. He stated it was discussed that if
Fogerty received approval from MnDOT the signage could be installed by the
City. He stated the signage states Fogerty Arena, Four Seasons Curling Club,
Gabe’s Rinkside Bar and Grill. He stated the issue is with having "bar and
grill" on the sign which is not fair to other restaurants/bars in Blaine.
Mark Clasen has requested an opportunity to discuss with the Council the
issue of signage in the right-of-way for the Four Seasons Curling Club/Gabe’s
Rinkside Bar and Grill. He stated the issue is the facility is non-profit
corporation and directional signage like the Sports Center is requested. He
noted the restaurant is part of the non-profit and is a revenue generating
operation. He noted the entities in the Sports Center are revenue making as
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well. He stated MnDOT gave approval for the signage in the right-of-way and
we need approval for the logo signage on Cloverleaf or we do not get the rest
of the signage.
Councilmember Bourke asked if Gabe’s rents from the Curling facility. Mr.
Clasen replied no, Gabe’s manages the restaurant.
Councilmember Swanson commented he used to administer the State’s
signage program and he will check with the State on policy. Councilmember
Swanson stated he is concerned about fairness with the other restaurants in the
city.
Councilmember Hovland stated any establishment can have signage along the
freeway and the other restaurants can do the same.
Councilmember Kolb commented there seems to be a double standard for
signage for profit and non-profit businesses.
Councilmember Bourke asked for the non-profit and for profit rules on
signage. Tom Sweeney replied he is not familiar with signage.
Councilmember Clark arrived at 7:07 p.m.
Councilmember Kolb commented the building has visibility from the freeway.
Councilmember Clark replied one way there is visibility and the three other
ways do not have visibility.
Mayor Ryan commented the Council had settled the signage issue long ago
with a policy and ordinance.
Councilmember Herbst suggested talking to the Chamber about signage and
also the City should critique all of its signage.
Councilmember Bourke stated all business should have signage and suggested
reviewing the signage in the City.
Councilmember Swanson agreed with involving the Chamber.
Mr. Clasen stated the facility is looking for directional signage on Cloverleaf
to go down Lincoln Street.
Councilmember Hovland suggested looking at what other cities do for
signage. He stated criteria needs to be set and reviewed case by case.
Mr. Clasen stated the sign states Fogerty Arena, Four Seasons Curling Club,
and Gabe’s Rinkside (is currently covered).
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Councilmember Swanson requested staff get MnDOT’s current rules for
signage and the location of where the Sports Center has signs in the
right-of-way.
Mr. Clasen stated Fogerty Arena is non-profit and self-supporting, and
Fogerty should be treated the same as the National Sports Center.
Mr. Clasen requested the cover be taken off the signage. He stated Fogerty
needs the Council’s permission for directional signage on Cloverleaf to go
down Lincoln Street.
Councilmember Bourke suggested engaging the Chamber on signage and if
the signage is warranted the sign should be approved.
Councilmember Kolb suggested tabling the issue until January 2014.
Discussed
2. WS 13-49 HANS HAGEN HOMES
Sponsors: Schafer
Hans Hagen stated he was one of the 14 investors in The Lakes development.
He stated he has recently purchased 9 acres in The Lakes. He stated the
concern Hans Hagen Homes has with the development agreement for
Waterside has a clause that states the City may not issue building permits
because he believes a letter of credit was not posted. He stated that Judge
Smith determined that was not a default. He stated in the original
development agreement there was not a successors and assigns clause so a
subsequent developer could not be responsible for the default on the part of
the first developer. He stated he is asking the Council to authorize building
permits.
Discussed
3. WS 13-46 2014 BUDGET UPDATE - PRELIMINARY BUDGET
Sponsors: Huss
City Manager Arneson gave an overview of the City’s per capita revenues and
expenditures from past to present on taxable market value, new homes, new
homes vs. households, total levy, market value vs. net tax capacity,
expenditures (per capita), per capita spending compared to inflation, operating
tax levy (per capita), per capita operating levy compared to inflation,
operating levy (per capita) vs. population, per capita tax levy compared to
inflation, acres of parkland, acres of park per park maintenance personnel,
miles of streets, miles of streets vs. street maintenance personnel, personnel
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vs. households, and population vs. personnel,.
Finance Director Huss stated the adoption of a preliminary 2014 budget and
tax levy is conducted at the first Council meeting in September. He stated
staff has reviewed departmental budget requests using service level
assumptions established over the last two years and determined the
appropriation requests exceed funding sources. He noted the preliminary tax
levy that is set on September 5, 2013 cannot be increased; although the
preliminary budget adopted at that same meeting can be either increased or
decreased as the Council directs.
Finance Director Huss stated the proposed 2014 Tax Levy would be an
increase of .02 cents per $1,000 valuation on a property. He noted the
Pavement Management Program was increased by $200,000 to restore the
program to its original funding. He stated this proposed budget is also
restoring three staff positions of Building Inspector, Parks and Recreation
Director, and Economic Development Specialist.
Councilmember Swanson clarified the Economic Development Specialist
position would be funded by the General Fund if the EDA had funding.
Public Services Manager Therres stated if the City wants to continue the same
level of service a Parks and Recreation Director is necessary. He noted that
the current staff is burned out and one staff member left today.
Mayor Ryan stated the Council has to decide to cut services or hire.
Councilmember Kolb stated the citizens live in Blaine for the services, parks
and programs. She stated the City needs to provide services the residents use.
Mayor Ryan stated the Parks Director will have a lot of work to do if a
community center/sports facility is being considered.
Councilmember Bourke suggested reducing the Pavement Management
Program by $100,000.
Councilmember Hovland questioned the dollar amount listed for the EDA
Specialist. Finance Director Huss replied the dollar amount includes salary
and benefits.
Councilmember Swanson suggested keeping the Pavement Management
Program at $229,390.
Councilmember Clark suggested review and reduce park programs. He stated
the Council may have to consider bringing back an EDA levy. He stated he
wants to hold the tax rate to where it is now.
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Councilmember Kolb suggested levying at the 37.416% rate, then discuss it
and then adjust it.
Councilmember Herbst stated he does not want to levy for EDA. He stated
parks can go one more year without a director. He requested from staff the
fund amount for the Unrestricted Fund. He commented that he would like the
Pavement Management Program funded to $500,000.
Councilmember Hovland stated he will not consider a tax levy increase and
he is in favor of funding the Pavement Management Program.
Mayor Ryan stated he supports the 2014 proposed tax levy of 37.416%.
Councilmember Swanson commented the City needs an EDA Specialist.
Councilmember Herbst suggested using a consultant for the EDA and pay a
commission.
Councilmember Hovland commented there are other ways to pay for the three
positions.
Councilmember Kolb stated it will be impossible to cut the parks especially
with the new large park in development, a park director is necessary. She
asked about reserves from 2012 compared to 2013. Finance Director Huss
replied funds were distributed to multiple funds and used on capital
purchases. He suggested not using reserves for salaries and fund the
Pavement Management Program.
Discussed
OTHER BUSINESS
Council discussion on rescheduling a retreat for September 19-20, 2013.
ADJOURN
The Workshop adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
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