City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · March 3, 2016
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Square Dr
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, March 3, 2016 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 6:30 p.m.
2 Roll Call
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Clark Arneson; City Attorney Patrick
Sweeney; Planning and Community Development Director Bryan Schafer;
Public Services Manager Bob Therres; Finance Director Joe Huss; Police
Chief/Safety Services Manager Chris Olson; City Engineer Jean Keely;
Stormwater Manager Jim Hafner; Interim Information Services Manager Paul
Grosse; Communications Technician Roark Haver; Senior Engineering
Technician Al Thorp; City Clerk Catherine Sorensen; and Recording
Secretary Linda Dahlquist.
Present: 7 - Mayor Ryan, Councilmember Hovland, Councilmember Swanson,
Councilmember Clark, Councilmember Bourke, Councilmember Herbst,
and Councilmember King
3 New Business
3-1 WS 16-13 REQUEST TO ADD ONE PUBLIC SERVICES EMPLOYEE
Stormwater Manager Hafner stated staff is seeking authorization to hire a
public services worker. He stated with the growing city and storm sewer
system, the amount of work necessary to maintain the system is surpassing
what two FTEs can handle. He stated staff estimates that one extra public
services worker could work both in the streets and in stormwater areas.
Councilmember Bourke inquired about mandated activities. Stormwater
Manager Hafner replied the City is compliant at a minimum level with all the
required programs and noted staff is maintaining the stormwater system.
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Stormwater Manager Hafner gave an overview of the stormwater program,
routine maintenance, existing system, and the department’s tasks and hours of
work for streets and storm sewer. He noted items that are not being done in a
timely manner or not at all are ditch maintenance, storm pipe cleaning, flared
end section maintenance, and completing repairs found during inspections.
Councilmember Herbst commented the cleaning of ditches and culverts is
important.
Stormwater Manager Hafner gave an overview of the storm sewer hours by
FTE. He noted all FTEs are union workers and the seasonal workers are
non-union.
Councilmember King inquired about the jet vac and who can operate the
equipment. Public Services Manager Therres replied currently six staff
members are trained to use the jet vac equipment.
Councilmember Clark inquired about contracting out some of the work.
Stormwater Manager Hafner replied street sweeping is historically more
expensive when contracted and noted that maintenance and repair work are
not contracted.
Councilmember Herbst inquired about excavating. Stormwater Manager
Hafner replied staff does some of the excavating work depending on the job
size otherwise it is contracted.
Stormwater Manager Hafner stated staff is not getting to enough storm sewer
maintenance tasks. He noted there is adequate funding in the storm sewer
fund to cover this position while working on storm sewer maintenance.
Councilmember Herbst stated he does not want to build the stormwater
department and that any staff hired should be done through the Public Works
department. He stated a reserve is needed in the Stormwater Fund.
Councilmember Bourke suggested union (skilled) staff be utilized for the
major street and storm sewer work and bring in part-time (non-union) for
other non-skilled work.
Councilmember Clark stated he would like to see the City move to a more
flexible work model by utilizing contractors.
Councilmember Swanson stated he has worked with contract models in the
past and is not in favor of it because when there is a problem with a contractor
sometimes they are not available or have moved on.
Councilmember Herbst commented a professional staff person is needed to
run the jet vac.
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Councilmember Hovland commented the City is growing and at some point
additional staff will need to be hired. He noted that the County maintains
their portion of the culverts and ditches, and the City needs to maintain our
portion.
Public Services Manager Therres noted the City has 40 FTEs in the Public
Works department and uses seasonal part-time workers. He commented
sometimes it can be difficult to find enough seasonal help.
City Manager Arneson stated if the City moves to a part-time model the wage
structure will need to be reviewed which would likely involve union
negotiation. He commented the budget would need to be amended if a person
is hired for 2016.
Mayor Ryan commented the City is $2 below scale and have lost workers
because of it.
Councilmember Bourke suggested the City have an apprentice program for
the part-time help.
Councilmember Herbst clarified that hiring will be done through the Public
Works department. He commented the position could be paid from inspection
fees.
Councilmember Hovland inquired about Public Works staff being cross
trained on tasks. Public Services Manager Therres replied as tasks are
mastered staff are trained on additional tasks.
Council consensus was to add one public services employee in 2016 if
funding is available and to emphasize cross-training throughout the
department.
Discussed
3-2 WS 16-14 STORM PONDS AND FOUNTAINS
Stormwater Manager Hafner gave an overview of essential stormwater
management and stormwater pond characteristics. He stated current City
ordinance prohibits the installation of fountains in stormwater ponds. He
stated compliance with the ordinance ensures compliance with water quality
standards and prevents an unnecessary increase in maintenance and costs that
would result from the transport of sediments and pollutants.
Councilmember Herbst commented he disagrees and cannot see how silt
could be raised by an aerator, adding pond water is cleaner with an aerator.
Stormwater Manager Hafner replied the owner of the restaurant who wishes
to implement a fountain has purchased one with a ¾ horse motor. He noted
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the fountain can draw water from a six foot deep pond. He noted the pond is
only four feet deep and the algae would only be pushed to the side.
Councilmember Bourke commented he does not have a problem with a
fountain in this specific pond and suggested developing an ordinance to allow
the use.
City Manager Arneson stated this is a City pond and there are 250 of the same
size ponds throughout the City. He stated a City wide policy will be needed
and that City ordinance would need to be amended.
Councilmember King stated any policy change should include the model, size
and type of fountain based on pond depth and should include the necessary
fee.
Councilmember Swanson suggested selling the pond to the restaurant owner.
Councilmember Hovland asked if the water was taken from a well instead of
the pond, would that be ok. Stormwater Manager Hafner replied two other
ponds flows into this pond and to augment the pond with a clean water source
will not help.
Councilmember Hovland stated businesses are using pond water for watering
grass. Stormwater Hafner replied golf courses do use their pond water for
grass watering.
Council consensus was for staff to bring forward the proper ordinance
amendments to allow a fountain in this pond and to develop a policy
City-wide.
Discussed
OTHER BUSINESS
None.
ADJOURN
The Workshop adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
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Agenda
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Square Dr
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final-revised
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff to
discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, March 3, 2016 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 16-13 REQUEST TO ADD ONE PUBLIC SERVICES EMPLOYEE
Sponsors: Hafner
3-2 WS 16-14 STORM PONDS AND FOUNTAINS
Sponsors: Hafner
3-3 MOWING DISCUSSION
ITEM REMOVED FROM AGENDA PRIOR TO MEETING
ADJOURN
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