City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · February 2, 2017
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
Thursday, February 2, 2017 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 6:30 p.m.
2 Roll Call
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Clark Arneson; Planning and Community
Development Director Bryan Schafer; Finance Director Joe Huss; Police
Chief/Safety Services Manager Chris Olson; Economic Development
Coordinator Erik Thorvig; Public Services Manager Bob Therres; City
Engineer Jean Keely; Communications Technician Roark Haver; Senior
Engineering Technician Jason Sundeen; and City Clerk Catherine Sorensen.
Present: 6 - Councilmember Hovland, Councilmember Clark, Councilmember King,
Councilmember Jeppson, Mayor Ryan, and Councilmember Swanson
Absent: 1 - Councilmember Garvais
3 New Business
3-1 WS 17-09 131ST AVENUE DEVELOPMENT
Public Services Manager Therres stated in December of 2016, the City
Council received a request from four property owners on the north side of
131st Avenue to be considered for transfer into Sanitary Sewer District 6 if
there is extra capacity for their properties to develop. The capacity of District
6 was reviewed by a consulting engineer in 2005 and it was recommended at
the time to leave district boundaries as they currently exist to preserve the
available capacity for potential development and redevelopment downstream.
Since the capacity study, the City knows that The Lakes of Radisson has not
developed as intensely as originally thought and this issue is being asked to be
revisited by the four property owners.
Public Services Manager Therres explained the City currently has a request
for proposals out to consulting engineers to update the City’s 2005
Comprehensive Sanitary Sewer Plan. One of the goals listed in the RFP is to
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evaluate the existing system for possible district line shifts to utilize existing
capacity. The plan update is to be complete by September 29, 2017. This
information will then be incorporated into the City’s 2040 Comprehensive
Plan update which is due to the Metropolitan Council by December of 2018.
After the City receives Met Council approval of the City’s 2040
Comprehensive Plan, the sanitary sewer district line could be revised if the
Sewer Plan update shows available capacity to do so.
Councilmember Swanson questioned where the sewer lines were located at
this time. Public Services Manager Therres reviewed the location of
surrounding District 6 sewer lines.
Councilmember King asked if the new development could be serviced by
District 6. Public Services Manager Therres reported this information would
be available after the study was complete.
Councilmember Swanson inquired how fees would be collected if the line
sizes had to be changed. City Engineer Keely explained these fees would be
collected through sanitary sewer trunk connection charges.
Council consensus was to review this item after the Sanitary Sewer Plan was
updated this fall.
3-2 WS 17-10 129TH AVENUE DISCUSSION
Public Services Manager Therres stated 129th Avenue from the East TH 65
Service Road to Radisson Road was constructed over a period of 39 years
with three different developers. The western portion of 129th Avenue was
constructed in 1976 and was built 44-foot wide with two drive lanes, parking
permitted on both sides and no sidewalks. The eastern portion of 129th
Avenue was constructed in 1996 and was built with a 31-foot median, 5-foot
sidewalk in the median, a 16-foot lane in each direction, parking restricted on
the north side and parking permitted on the south side. The center segment of
129th Avenue was constructed in 2015 and was built with a 5-foot median, 6
foot sidewalks on both sides, a 17-foot lane in each direction and parking
permitted on both sides.
Public Services Manager Therres explained the street design of 129th Avenue
changed over these 39 years. In the 1970s, several streets in the City were
built wide without sidewalks. In the 1990s, the City was trying to find a
residential collector street design that would slow traffic. It was thought that
the 31-foot treed median separating two narrower lanes of traffic might be a
design that would slow traffic. There were other collector streets built at that
the same time that had different median widths, lane widths, and
sidewalk/trail configurations. When the center segment of 129th Avenue was
being designed in 2007, the two Ward 3 Councilmembers met with the
existing neighborhood from the east side of the proposed development and
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discussed how the final segment of this street should be built. The
neighborhood selected the design that was built in 2015 with the narrower
median and sidewalks on both sides.
Public Services Manager Therres reported the design of the west and east
portions of 129th Avenue could match the center segment when those sections
of street are scheduled for reconstruction in the City’s Pavement Management
Program. The pavement at both ends of 129th Avenue between the TH 65
Service Road and Radisson Road are still in good condition. The
neighborhoods could petition for reconstruction sooner than the PMP, but the
assessments would be significantly more going earlier. There are many other
streets in the City that have reconstruction needs in the PMP before the east
and west portions of 129th Avenue would be scheduled.
Public Services Manager Therres indicated during the last ten years, there has
been one property owner that lives on the eastern portion of 129th Avenue
that has expressed concern over the speed of traffic. The City has placed the
speed trailer and traffic count tubes on the eastern portion of 129th Avenue
and the 85th percentile has been 23 to 31 mph. The last traffic count taken in
2016 on the eastern portion of 129th Avenue was less than 550 vehicles per
day.
Public Services Manager Therres stated during the 2006 discussions of the
design of the center portion of 129th Avenue, the City received a petition
from the eastern portion of the street asking for speed bumps. The Council
did not act on the petition because the City was in the process of establishing
129th Avenue as a Municipal State Aid route and speed bumps are not
allowed on a MSA route. There were several other Council concerns in this
area at the same time with the construction of the 129th Avenue overpass at
TH 65, the County’s reconstruction of Radisson Road, and the City pursuing a
signalized intersection on Radisson Road at 129th Avenue Avenue/Quail
Creek Parkway.
Mayor Ryan explained there were two families with children near Eldorado,
which was a bus stop. He suggested a stop sign be considered at this
intersection to improve safety and to assist in slowing traffic. Public Services
Manager Therres indicated a consultant could be hired by the City to review
the traffic situation.
Councilmember Hovland stated he believed the median within the eastern
portion of 129th Avenue could be shrunk down in order to allow for
sidewalks. City Engineer Keely reported this was the case would require a
total reconstruct of this segment of 129th Avenue. She reported this portion
of 129th Avenue was still in very good condition.
Councilmember King commented the newer construction was well done. He
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asked why 129th Avenue was defined as a collector when it no longer serves
Highway 65. City Engineer Keely explained why 129th Avenue was defined
as a collector street.
Councilmember King understood there were several homeowners living along
this roadway that have voiced their concerns with the setbacks along 129th
Avenue. He asked how the City would manage increased traffic along this
street if new development occurred. He questioned how the City would
handle a major accident along this roadway given the fact it does not meet the
collector language. City Engineer Keely stated the Council had addressed this
Ordinance and the Ordinance was amended. She read the Ordinance in full
for the Council.
Councilmember Jeppson questioned what the major issue was with the
roadway. Mayor Ryan explained that the last five accidents along this
roadway have been in the middle segment. He noted each of the accidents
were minor, but if they had occurred near the bus stop this would have turned
major.
Councilmember Clark arrived at 6:50 p.m.
Councilmember Hovland stated he knew this road was under traveled and was
still in good condition. He commented if the residents were to bring forward
a petition; the Council could reconsider the Pavement Management Plan
without having to sacrifice other City projects. He indicated he would support
consideration of a stop sign at Eldorado.
Councilmember King supported Councilmember Hovland’s comments. He
understood the roadway had light traffic at this time. It was his opinion that
the green portion of the roadway did not meet the intent of the Ordinance.
Councilmember Clark questioned what action Councilmember King was
seeking.
Councilmember King stated he would like to see the blue and green segments
of 129th Avenue closed.
Mayor Ryan said he believed this would lead to a huge concern from the
adjacent neighborhoods.
Councilmember Clark discussed the history of this roadway and asked how
connectivity from Radisson to Highway 65 would be achieved if 129th
Avenue were closed.
Councilmember King stated his main concern was with the green portion of
the roadway.
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Councilmember Swanson asked how much it would cost to reengineer the
green segment of 129th Avenue. City Engineer Keely stated that a cost
estimate would have to be calculated.
Councilmember Swanson supported this estimate being updated.
Mayor Ryan agreed and believed a study should be completed.
Councilmember Hovland recommended the Council pull together rough
numbers and that a neighborhood meeting be scheduled.
Councilmember Jeppson asked if the Traffic Commission should review this
issue prior to a study being completed. Public Services Manager Therres
discussed the roles and responsibilities of the Traffic Commission and
recommended a study be completed first.
Councilmember King questioned how much a traffic study would cost the
City. City Manager Arneson estimated the traffic study would cost $6,000
and would cover the entire segment of 129th Avenue.
Council consensus was to order a traffic study and then schedule a
neighborhood meeting.
Other Business
Planning and Community Development Director Schafer addressed an access
concern at the intersection of 105th Avenue/Radisson Road. He explained the
City was working to acquire Parcel A in order to improve access to Nassau
Street. He explained that the gas use being proposed at this intersection
would only develop if they received a left turn going eastbound on 105th
Avenue. He described the left turn bay the gas user was requesting and stated
staff did not support this addition to 105th Avenue for safety reasons. Staff
expressed concern that without this left turn bay it would be difficult to
develop this corner lot and requested feedback from the City Council.
Councilmember King questioned if the access point from Nassau Street would
be sufficient. Planning and Community Development Director Schafer stated
this was staff’s original understanding, however over the past two weeks the
gas user has requested a left in off of 105th Avenue.
Councilmember King commented he would not support the left in access off
of 105th Avenue.
Councilmember Clark asked if there were others users that could develop this
corner that would not require the left turn from 105th Avenue. Planning and
Community Development Director Schafer said he was uncertain but believed
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other likely uses at such as gas or pharmacy-type uses would require similar
access.
Councilmember King questioned if the Council supported the left turn in, if
the City’s state funding would be in jeopardy. City Manager Arneson
indicated the state funding would not be jeopardy.
Councilmember Hovland favored going forward with the left turn off of 105th
Avenue and recommended the bay be increased to hold four or five vehicles.
Councilmember Clark stated he was not ready to support the left turn. He
indicated he wanted to better understand what would happen on the south side
of the road prior to making this decision.
Councilmember Swanson requested staff report back to the Council at the
Thursday, February 16th workshop with further information on this item.
City Clerk Sorensen reported the City received a request from the National
Sports Center for a three-day concert event taking place June 29, June 30 and
July 1. She explained three bands would play each night and the attendance
was estimated to be 15,000 each night. She reported the event was proposing
to have fireworks and asked for some Council direction before responding to
the applicant.
Councilmember Swanson expressed concern with the road construction that
could be occurring on 105th Avenue this summer.
Councilmember Clark stated he had great apprehension with the proposed
event and stated he would like further information if the event would have
alcohol.
City Clerk Sorensen indicated she would place this item on the Council’s
February 16th agenda for Council consideration.
Discussed
ADJOURN
The Workshop was adjourned at 7:33 p.m.
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Agenda
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final
City Council Workshop
Thursday, February 2, 2017 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 17-09 131ST AVENUE DEVELOPMENT
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: 131st Avenue Development.pdf
District 6 Letter Request.pdf
3-2 WS 17-10 129TH AVENUE DISCUSSION
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: 129th Avenue Map.pdf
129th Ave Address Map.pdf
ADJOURN
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