City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · October 12, 2017
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
Thursday, October 12, 2017 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 6:30 p.m.
2 Roll Call
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Clark Arneson; Planning and Community
Development Director Bryan Schafer; Interim Police Chief/Safety Services
Manager Dan Szykulski; Finance Director Joe Huss; Economic Development
Coordinator Erik Thorvig; Public Services Manager/Assistant City Manager Bob
Therres; Public Works Director Jon Haukaas; City Attorney Patrick Sweeney;
Communications Technician Roark Haver; Senior Engineering Technician Jason
Sundeen; and City Clerk Catherine Sorensen.
Present: 6 - Councilmember Hovland, Councilmember Clark, Councilmember King,
Councilmember Jeppson, Mayor Ryan, and Councilmember Swanson
Absent: 1 - Councilmember Garvais
3 New Business
3-1 WS 17-59 MAC PARCEL - 105TH AND RADISSON (LAND USE DISCUSSION)
Planning and Community Development Director Schafer stated in September of 2015,
after working with MAC for several months, the City Council created the PBD-A
(Planned Business District-Airport) zoning district. In November of 2015 the City
Council, at the request of MAC, rezoned two MAC parcels, one of which was the
105th/Radisson parcel, from Airport to PBD-A. MAC has been marketing the 3-acre
site since that time. A potential buyer emerged early this spring and in discussions was
suggesting they would like the ability to have gas sales as part of their proposal. They
were aware the PBD-A does not allow gas and have been told the background on why
the City Council did not want gas on this corner. The buyer recently asked to have a
City Council workshop to discuss this further. Staff reviewed the rationale for not
allowing gas on this site and requested feedback from the Council.
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Councilmember Hovland asked if staff has heard anything more about a hotel near
this property. City Manager Arneson indicated this project was still being worked
on.
Councilmember Jeppson commented on how traffic would be impacted by
pedestrians crossing 105th Avenue to Kwik Trip.
Doug Hoskinen, Dehl Properties, reported he had this property under contract with
MAC and was completing due diligence. He stated there was no definite closing
date and had been working on this project for over a year now. He requested the
Council allow his project to be treated fairly and that the same consideration be
made as was done with Kwik Trip. He stated he believed competition would
benefit both corners of this intersection and thanked the Council for their
consideration of his request. He explained he had a restaurant and bakery lined up
for this location.
Councilmember Swanson asked what benefit the City would receive by rezoning
the property. He stated he did not believe there was any benefit to the City and
therefore would not support the project.
Mayor Ryan agreed and commented on the history of gas station removals along
the Highway 65 corridor. He reported the Council has been very clear about the
redevelopment of this corner in the City and noted this property was not slated for
a gas use.
Councilmember King stated he was not opposed to the request but explained he
would like to see something better. He said he supported a restaurant in this area
and encouraged the applicant to bring his request forward to the Council.
Councilmember Hovland stated he would like to know more about the surrounding
projects before making a decision on this request.
Mayor Ryan commented on how the softball fields would be changing. He said he
supported the applicant bringing their rezoning request forward and noted the
Council could not take a vote on the item this evening.
Council consensus was to inform the applicant he could apply for their request,
but it was noted the Council was unsure if there would be enough support to
allow gas as a use on this site.
3-2 WS 17-60 DISCUSSION ON SPACE NEEDS STUDY FOR SENIOR CENTER
Public Services Manager/Assistant City Manager Therres stated at a recent
workshop meeting, the future of the Senior Center was mentioned. It was
suggested that a quote be obtained for doing a space needs analysis for a
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stand-alone Senior Center be obtained and that this information be brought back to
a Council workshop for more discussion. Staff was able to obtain a quote from
the 292 Design Group whose principals did the original space needs study for the
Mary Ann Young Senior Center in 2008. Their proposal is to perform an updated
space needs study for $8,800. Staff requested feedback from the Council on how
to proceed.
Councilmember Swanson said he wanted to see the senior space programmed to
meet their needs. He explained the Senior Center was quite small.
Mayor Ryan said he did not support the space study being completed given the
information the City already had from 2008. He said he also did not support the
seniors being allowed to have storage in the Senior Center as this has backfired in
the past.
Councilmember Hovland stated he would like to see the Senior Center move
forward and be placed on a referendum in 2018. He indicated this matter was long
overdue for the City’s seniors.
Councilmember King said he understood the Senior Center was in poor condition
and explained the last referendum was voted down. He questioned how the
Council would gain support from the community. He suggested the plans for the
Senior Center include phasing options. He stated he supported the Council
pursuing the space needs study for the Senior Center and encouraged the Council
to consider justification as to why this item was being placed on a referendum for
2018.
Councilmember Swanson explained that the City had more than enough money to
cover the Senior Center without having to bond.
Further discussion ensued regarding the cost for a new Senior Center.
Councilmember Jeppson said she did not believe it was necessary to complete
another space needs study and said she supported the findings within the previously
completed study.
Councilmember Clark indicated he did not have a problem spending $1.5 million on
a Senior Center considering how much the City spends on other projects for the
community without going to a referendum.
Councilmember Hovland requested the Council look at the hard numbers in further
detail before making a decision on how to fund the Senior Center. He agreed this
project was well within the scope of using City funds.
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Councilmember Swanson agreed $1.5 million was not an impossible number.
Councilmember King said he appreciated Councilmember Clark’s comments but
reiterated that the Senior Center issue just failed and for this reason he wanted to
see it go to a referendum again to ensure the Council had public support.
Councilmember Hovland said he supported the City spending money to upgrade
this facility as it was 30+ years old. He said he did not see the need to put the
Senior Center on the referendum unless the Council planned to bond for the
project.
Councilmember Clark recommended the Council proceed in a manner that the item
will be on a referendum in 2018 and be addressed by the Council again in January.
He said he did not believe another space study was necessary but requested staff
update costs in order for this space to meet the needs of seniors both now and 20
years into the future. He stated he wanted to see the space be technology friendly
while also allowing for exercise space.
Mayor Ryan stated he could support the study but indicated the City has already
dealt with this company twice. He explained he was conservative and did not want
to spend money if this was not necessary.
Councilmember Clark commented that the previous information gathered for the
space needs study included information regarding a Community Center. He
suggested a new study be completed for only the Senior Center.
Councilmember Hovland indicated he wanted to better understand the costs for a
new Senior Center.
Councilmember Swanson stated he supported the space needs study being
completed in order for the Council to better understand the needs of the seniors 20
years from now and indicated his support of pursuing the space needs study.
Councilmember Jeppson explained her frustration with last year’s referendum was
that it was quite vague and that in order for this item to move forward a space
needs study would have to be completed.
Councilmember Clark recommended programming needs also be considered along
with having the appropriate amount of space for seniors.
Councilmember Swanson commented on the importance of social activities for
seniors and said he wanted to see the senior space meeting the needs of the seniors
in the community through an updated space.
Council consensus was to move forward with the study update for possible
referendum question in 2018.
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3-3 WS 17-61 DISCUSSION ON SPACE PLANNING FOR CITY HALL
Public Services Manager/Assistant City Manager Therres stated as part of looking
at future staffing and space needs plans, staff is recommending an architect assist in
utilizing our existing City Hall space most efficiently and look at how and when the
third-floor space should be utilized. Staff is looking for assistance in making the
best use of the existing space in City Hall and also to develop a plan to move office
space into the third floor. Staff has received a proposal from the 292 Design
Group to do a Space Planning and Programming for Blaine City Hall. 292 Design
Group is made up of several principals from the firm that did the original City Hall
design. This proposal is for $23,400. There are funds available for this study in our
Building Maintenance Budget. Staff requested feedback from the Council on how
to proceed.
Mayor Ryan asked if the election equipment would remain on the third floor.
Public Services Manager/Assistant City Manager Therres reported this was the
plan.
Councilmember Clark said he supported this item coming back to the Council for
formal approval.
Council consensus was to bring this item forward for Council approval to
authorize the study.
3-4 WS 17-62 2018 PROPOSED BUDGETS - WATER UTILITY FUND; AND
SANITARY SEWER UTILITY FUND
Finance Director Huss presented the Council with preliminary budgets for the
Water Utility Fund and Sanitary Sewer Utility Fund. He noted these funds
currently had a shortfall and proposed water and sanitary sewer rate increases.
These new rates were reviewed in detail and staff requested feedback from the
Council.
Councilmember Hovland asked if water conservation efforts would impact the
City’s water fund. Finance Director Huss explained the budget was built on basic
domestic needs of 8,000 gallons per month per residential property. He did not
anticipate the City’s water usage would decrease by 5% due to water conservation
efforts. He stated most of the growth in water usage throughout Blaine was due to
growth in the City and rates were set based on this growth and to allow the City to
maintain its infrastructure.
Councilmember Clark questioned if a portion of the surplus could be applied to the
shortfall to reduce the overall bonding cost. Finance Director Huss explained the
reason the City had a surplus was in order to cover depreciation costs and in the
event there was a major outage of the system.
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Councilmember Clark stated it was his understanding the surplus was being put in
place to cover the expense of a new water treatment plant. Finance Director
discussed the City’s Capital Improvement Plan for the new water treatment plant.
Mayor Ryan commented on how Hugo and White Bear Lake were being impacted
by water shortages.
Councilmember Hovland asked why there was such a difference between the water
and sewer rates. Finance Director Huss explained the rates for sewer were in line
with the rates the City was charged by the Met Council.
Further discussion ensued regarding the water and sewer rates being charged by
neighboring communities.
Mayor Ryan said he was proud of the fact the City would only be increasing its
water rates by 60 cents over the past 30 years.
Councilmember Hovland asked where the City stood on the four new wells.
Finance Director Huss noted these wells had been drilled in preparation for the new
water treatment plant.
Councilmember King stated he supported the proposed rate increases.
Council consensus was to bring forward the rate increases as proposed by
staff.
Other Business
Mayor Ryan provided the Council with an update on the Highway 65 Corridor.
The Council discussed meeting attendance. Mayor Ryan expressed frustration
regarding meeting attendance and encouraged the Council to do their best to attend
all City Council and workshop meetings.
Councilmember Jeppson encouraged staff to investigate ways to use technology
more in order to assist with meeting attendance.
City Manager Arneson provided the Council with an update on the relocation of the
Invictus transformer boxes and future sign location.
City Manager Arneson provided the Council with an update on the 105th Avenue
reconstruction project.
Discussed, no action required.
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ADJOURN
The Workshop was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
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Agenda
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final
City Council Workshop
Thursday, October 12, 2017 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 17-59 MAC PARCEL - 105TH AND RADISSON (LAND USE DISCUSSION)
Sponsors: Schafer
Attachments: WS Item - MAC 105th-Radisson - Attachments.pdf
3-2 WS 17-60 DISCUSSION ON SPACE NEEDS STUDY FOR SENIOR CENTER
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: 292 Design Proposal for Blaine Senior Center Update Study 2017.pdf
3-3 WS 17-61 DISCUSSION ON SPACE PLANNING FOR CITY HALL
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: 292FeeProposal_BlaineCityHallStudy.pdf
3-4 WS 17-62 2018 PROPOSED BUDGETS - WATER UTILITY FUND; AND SANITARY
SEWER UTILITY FUND
Sponsors: Huss
ADJOURN
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