City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · November 8, 2021
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and
staff to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, November 8, 2021 6:15 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sanders at 6:15PM.
2 Roll Call
PRESENT: Mayor Tim Sanders, Councilmembers Wes Hovland, Julie
Jeppson, Chris Massoglia, Richard Paul, Jess Robertson, and Jason
Smith.
Adjunct Member Drew Brown.
ABSENT: None.
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Michelle Wolfe; Community
Development Director Erik Thorvig; Public Works Director Jon Haukaas;
Police Chief/Safety Services Manager Brian Podany; Finance Director
Joe Huss; City Engineer Dan Schluender; Communications Manager
Ben Hayle; and City Clerk Catherine Sorensen.
Present: 7 - Councilmember Robertson, Councilmember Paul, Councilmember Hovland,
Massoglia, Smith, Sanders, and Councilmember Jeppson
3 New Business
3-1 Council Requested Items for Discussion
Councilmember Paul stated he would like to receive a presentation from
a member of the Housing and Economic Development Committee from
Metro Cities.
Councilmember Jeppson indicated she was not opposed to receiving a
presentation but noted the city’s workshop agendas have been quite full
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and scheduling should be prioritized with the current schedule.
Councilmember Massoglia stated if the time was right, he supported the
council having a presentation on affordable housing.
Councilmember Robertson was of the opinion the council should have a
better vision for its housing before inviting in guest speakers.
Mayor Sanders recommended the contact at Metro Cities be given to Mr.
Thorvig and that this individual be invited to attend a future workshop
meeting. Ms. Wolfe explained she would reach out to the resource and
would plan future housing discussions for the council.
Discussed
10 Minute Discussion
3-2 Development Customer Service Final Report
Attachments: Final Customer Service Session
Mr. Thorvig stated customer service is an integral part of any government
and business function. As an internal goal for 2021, and in response to
Mayor and Council input, staff identified the need to review customer
service practices specifically related to development and permitting
processes. He reviewed the development process as well as permitting
process and how both processes involve personnel from planning,
economic development, building inspections, engineering and fire
inspections. He shared next steps identified by staff to assist the public
through these processes, and noted that overall, considering the volume
of development and permits reviewed by the city, Blaine does a very
good job of providing customer service, however, there is always an
opportunity to improve and educate.
Mr. Thorvig reported the city hired Craig Rapp to provide staff training
and assistance. Mr. Rapp assisted the city with the strategic planning
process and is very familiar with Blaine and municipal government. City
staff attended two training/information gathering sessions. Approximately
35 staff from the departments mentioned above attended. The city’s four
values (Professionalism, Integrity, Respect and Innovation) were an
overarching theme in these discussions. Staff commented further on the
training sessions held in order to improve the development review
process, along with proactive and effective communication.
Councilmember Hovland recommended the City’s outside inspectors be
included on the training.
Mayor Sanders questioned who would be responsible for ensuring there
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was a cultural integration as a result of this training. Mr. Thorvig stated it
will fall on the city manager and department heads to communicate the
message regarding the importance of customer service.
Councilmember Hovland indicated this training was geared towards the
inspection and planning department, but all departments should review
this information.
Councilmember Robertson inquired if staff has had buy in from
employees. Mr. Thorvig stated he has seen a shift in staff and sensed
that customer service is on the forefront for his department. Public
Works Director Haukaas stated the Public Works Department has also
been involved in these discussions and he too has seen a shift towards
better customer service.
Ms. Wolfe commented work was being done with department heads and
senior leaders to identify and define organizational values. She reported
these would be built into performance evaluations and everything the city
does. She stated she would also be working on norms of behavior.
Councilmember Robertson discussed how she has been educating
herself while working to phrase questions to staff in a positive manner to
assist where possible.
Councilmember Hovland asked if there was a metric in place to measure
success going forward. Mr. Thorvig stated a metric was not in place but
would be created as part of this process, adding one measure could be
a reduction in the number of complaints. Ms. Wolfe commented if the
council believed something should be added in this could be done,
otherwise staff would continue to provide updates on staff’s progress.
Councilmember Paul appreciated the fact staff went through this training.
Mayor Sanders stated he has appreciated seeing a shift and thanked
staff for their efforts and encouraged staff to celebrate the victories they
have experienced.
Discussed
45 Minute Discussion
3-3 Board/Commission Appointment Process Review
Attachments: September 2021 Council and Commissions List
Board-Commission Appointment Process - Council Policy
Board and Commission Appointment Process
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City Clerk Sorensen stated after the 2021 board/commission
appointments occurred, council requested that staff review and make
recommendations on ways to better streamline the process including a
review of current boards’/commissions’ purpose/focus. Councilmember
Jeppson offered to assist in the review as she had some suggestions.
These suggestions were reviewed with the council. Staff is requesting
Council input on the proposed board/ commission appointment process.
Once direction is provided, an amended policy will be presented for
approval if necessary.
Councilmember Jeppson discussed how Blaine has changed over time
and stated she would like to see the board/commission process change
as well. She explained she could not understand why commissioners had
to reapply each year when they are appointed to two three year terms.
She recommended interviews only be held when there was an opening.
She reported she would always like to see a diversity of wards on each
commission, but also wanted qualified and knowledgeable individuals
serving the city. She indicated she supported commissioners having a
term limit, such as three, three-year terms.
Councilmember Hovland agreed he did not like having to decline an
appointment for a qualified individual because they did not live within a
certain ward. He discussed the unique skill set the planning
commissioners had to have in order to review planning cases. He noted
the natural resource board members also had to have a unique skill set.
Councilmember Robertson supported commission/board members
having a term limit that would two three-year terms. She stated a term of
two years was challenging because it was too short. She recommended
the interview process be condensed in order to streamline the process.
Councilmember Hovland recommended the chairs from each
commission meet with the council in order to hear ideas and thoughts.
Ms. Sorensen stated this was one thing discussed under the strategic
plan to grow the relationships between the council and its commissions.
She explained staff was working on this and noted an annual report could
be given by each chair to the council.
Councilmember Paul discussed how the city was changing and stated he
supported the city changing its interview process for the
commission/board appointments.
Councilmember Smith stated he supported commission/board members
have a term limit of two, three-year terms. He commented he could
support an adjustment or extension for the planning commission. He
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indicated he would like to see some flexibility being offered to
commission appointments when it comes to wards.
Councilmember Hovland explained he was in favor of two-year terms with
a maximum of six years.
Councilmember Massoglia stated he did not support term limits for
board and commissioners because there were not term limits for the
mayor or councilmembers.
Councilmember Jeppson commented she believed two years was too
short and suggested a term be at least three years. She stated she
understood Councilmember Massoglia’s point, but noted every board
she has ever served on, it has been common place to have term limits.
Mayor Sanders supported the council honoring the wards as a goal, with
the understanding the best candidate should get the appointment.
Councilmember Hovland indicated he was not opposed to taking
someone from outside a ward, but if the terms were too long, a qualified
person from within a ward may not be able to serve.
Councilmember Smith suggested some sort of screening process be
considered in case the council receives a large number of applicants.
Ms. Sorensen stated a staff/chair prescreening process could be
considered if a large number of applications were received.
Councilmember Jeppson questioned if the council was going to set a
limit on the number of interviews that were held.
Councilmember Smith suggested candidates only be able to apply for a
maximum to two positions.
Councilmember Hovland suggested the number of candidates be
capped at 10.
Further discussion ensued regarding commission/board appointments
being at the council’s discretion.
Council consensus was to set term limits at two, three-year terms, advertise for
vacancies only, and interview only new applicants, not incumbents.
10 Minute Discussion
3-4 Proposed 2022 Storm Drainage Fund Budget
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Attachments: 2021.11.08 - 2022 Storm budget narrative
11.08.2021 - Presentation 2022 Storm Sewer Fund Budget
Finance Director Huss stated the City’s Storm Sewer Utility Enterprise
Fund accounts for the operations of the City’s storm drainage system.
The fund was created in 2006 as staff began separately accounting for
storm drainage activity. Prior to that, storm sewer operations were
accounted for in the Sanitary Sewer budget. A storm water utility fee was
approved by Council in 2007, and implemented in January 2008. As an
enterprise fund, the utility is designed to recover the cost of maintaining
the City’s storm drainage system, which includes over 100 miles of storm
sewer pipes, and almost 80 miles of ditches as well as numerous catch
basins, outfalls, manholes, weirs, culverts, and ponds. The system serves
roughly 23,000 parcels throughout Blaine. The storm sewer operation
functions as a division of the City’s Public Works Department under the
direction of the Deputy Public Works Director and input from the Storm
Water Coordinator.
Mr. Huss reported the division has an authorized staffing level of 6.5
fulltime equivalent (FTE) positions, which in addition to the Storm Water
Coordinator includes ½ FTE for supervision, ½ Working Foreman, and
4½ Public Service Workers. The proposed budget also includes
requests to fund 1.5 new FTE positions in 2022 one Public Services
Worker and one-half of a proposed Project Manager. Staff commented
further on the projected revenues and expenditures for the Storm
Drainage Fund and requested comments or questions from the council.
Councilmember Hovland asked what the extra costs were when pipe is
added to the city. Mr. Haukaas stated this comes from the long-term
inspection and maintenance of the pipe.
Councilmember Hovland questioned what type of expense the additional
storm sewer system would add to the city and inquired if the city had
funds set aside to dredge/clean its stormwater ponds. Mr. Haukaas
discussed how slip lining extends the life of pipes and prevents future
problems. He noted the city has reserves in place to address excavating
and dredging concerns. He commented further on how he works with the
finance director to plan for projects five to ten years down the road, while
keeping the level of projects balanced each year.
Councilmember Massoglia stated it would be nice to have clarity on if the
$425,000 in payment to a project manager was needed to support the
stormwater fund. Mr. Huss indicated he would provide the council with
more detail on where the costs were coming from. He commented further
on how the city’s funds had to be properly accounted for.
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Councilmember Robertson inquired if ARP funds can be used for any of
these infrastructure improvements. Mr. Huss explained ARP funds could
be used for storm sewer improvements.
Councilmember Hovland asked if there would be any new mandates that
had to do with stormwater retention and management. Mr. Haukaas
discussed the mandates that were already in place to address
stormwater retention and management. He commented further on a
TMDL mandate that would be coming down to the city.
Councilmember Massoglia questioned if the projected staffing increases
were accurate. Mr. Haukaas stated he was currently reviewing workload
and believed it was manageable. He noted he was getting better every
year at reviewing the data in order to understand the needs of his staff.
Councilmember Massoglia reported he would be in favor of using ARP
funds to cover some of the future expenses for storm sewer.
Mr. Haukaas commented further on how project engineers and
consultants assist the city with completing projects in a timely manner
while also providing specialties city staff may not have.
Councilmember Paul questioned how the budget would be impacted if
rates were reduced. Mr. Huss stated expenditures would have to be
adjusted if the utility rates were reduced. He reported rates were set to
support and maintain the expense of the infrastructure system that was in
place.
Councilmember Hovland asked how many miles of ditches the city had in
place that it had to maintain. Mr. Haukaas noted there were over 100
miles of ditches that had to be maintained by the city.
Discussed
30 Minute Discussion
3-5 Forestry Program Discussion
Attachments: Blaine Public Works - Forestry Program
Mr. Haukaas stated the city of Blaine Public Works department manages
trees on public property and rights of way throughout the city. This work
includes trimming along our streets for clearance and visibility, trimming
or tree removal in managed park and open space areas, trimming along
trails, mitigation of oak wilt, buckthorn removal, mitigation of hazardous
trees, and removal of trees that have been infested by the Emerald Ash
Borer (EAB). As was the case in 2021, the Forestry Program’s base
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budget of $76,000 would be enhanced with an appropriation of an
additional $175,000 for work to be performed by contractual tree
companies to address EAB infestation. Staff commented further on the
level of service provided which included staffing, priority work, dead and
diseased tree removal, tree trimming, and ongoing programs.
Ms. Wolfe explained staff was requesting another $175,000 in 2022 to
assist with EAB tree removal. She noted staff would also like the council
to consider what the future looks like for the city’s forestry program.
Councilmember Jeppson explained she would like to better understand
the cost to remove all of the ash trees in Blaine. She wanted the city to
provide the best service possible for Blaine residents, but she
understood this would come at a cost. She indicated the council would
have to consider how much it wanted to invest in the forestry program
which would require her to know more about the expense to remove all of
the ash trees.
Mr. Haukaas discussed a tree inventory that would need to be completed
and noted high value trees would be denoted within the study.
Mayor Sanders questioned if an educational campaign should be
considered to educate the public on options for treating their ash trees if
it was deemed a high value tree and to eliminate the expense of having
to have it removed.
Councilmember Massoglia asked how many trees were removed this
year with the $175,000. Mr. Haukaas estimated 60 to 70 larger trees
were removed with this funding. He noted staff was pursuing grants to
assist with replanting trees in the community. However, he noted this
was not a one to one replacement value.
Councilmember Massoglia supported the city spending more dollars on
ash tree treatment versus tree removal.
Councilmember Smith stated it will be good for the council to have an
inventory and he supported the city allocating an additional $175,000 for
2022.
Councilmember Jeppson asked if the city would ever be able to get
ahead of this. Mr. Haukaas discussed how the City of St. Paul was
addressing EAB and noted community groups were assisting with
reforestation.
Councilmember Massoglia questioned if forest experts supported the
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removal of all ash trees versus treatment. Mr. Haukaas stated chemical
treatment was effective and could be done on high value trees. However,
the experts are also saying EAB was not going away and by removing
their food source this would slow the spread. Mr. Haukaas discussed the
expense to treat versus remove the ash trees in the community.
Mayor Sanders questioned when the tree inventory would be completed.
He stated he would like to understand what trees were worth saving and
what was the total number of trees that had to be removed. He believed
valuable trees were those mature trees that were located along trails and
in parks.
Councilmember Jeppson stated there were so many variables regarding
how to determine what was a valuable tree. She noted she would be
happy to work with another councilmember or staff member to set
guidelines. Ms. Wolfe suggested this work be done after the tree
inventory was completed.
Councilmember Massoglia commented he would like to be involved in
the ongoing tree discussions as trees were a major concern for residents
in his ward.
Councilmember Hovland stated the city was not discussing the removal
of trees on private property or within open space areas, which meant the
EAB would still have a food source.
Mayor Sanders reported he would like to know more about what dollars
or grants were available to assist the city with this overwhelming problem.
Mr. Haukaas understood this was a large problem for the city to address
and he appreciated the council’s feedback.
Mayor Sanders stated again it would be important for the city to educate
residents with the options they have regarding EAB. Ms. Wolfe stated the
council could allocate more than $175,000 for forestry in 2022.
Discussed
30 Minute Discussion
OTHER BUSINESS
Councilmember Hovland discussed the gas leak that occurred in Ham
Lake and questioned why no notifications were sent on behalf of Blaine
in light of the evacuation being recommended from emergency services.
Mayor Sanders commented there was a problem with notification
because the City was not made aware of the event, adding the response
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was being directed by the county. Police Chief Podany reported he did
not learn about the leak until after it was contained and noted he had
already spoken to the county regarding this matter.
ADJOURN
The Workshop was adjourned at 8:47PM.
At 8:49PM
Adjourned
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Agenda
City of Blaine
Anoka County, Minnesota
Blaine City Hall
10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Meeting Agenda - Final
Monday, November 8, 2021
6:15 PM
Cloverleaf Farm Room A
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are welcome to attend, it is a
work session for City Council and staff to discuss issues before them. It is not for the
purpose of receiving public input.
City Council Workshop Meeting Agenda - Final November 8, 2021
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 21-128 Council Requested Items for Discussion
Sponsors: Council
10 Minute Discussion
3-2 WS 21-129 Development Customer Service Final Report
Sponsors: Thorvig
Attachments: Final Customer Service Session
45 Minute Discussion
3-3 WS 21-130 Board/Commission Appointment Process Review
Sponsors: Sorensen
Attachments: September 2021 Council and Commissions List
Board-Commission Appointment Process - Council Policy
Board and Commission Appointment Process
10 Minute Discussion
3-4 WS 21-131 Proposed 2022 Storm Drainage Fund Budget
Sponsors: Bong, Brown and Huss
Attachments: 2021.11.08 - 2022 Storm budget narrative
11.08.2021 - Presentation 2022 Storm Sewer Fund Budget
30 Minute Discussion
3-5 WS 21-132 Forestry Program Discussion
Sponsors: Haukaas
Attachments: Blaine Public Works - Forestry Program
30 Minute Discussion
ADJOURN
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