City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · January 10, 2022
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and
staff to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, January 10, 2022 6:00 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sanders at 6:05PM.
2 Roll Call
PRESENT: Mayor Tim Sanders (excused himself from the meeting at
7:00PM), Councilmembers Wes Hovland, Julie Jeppson, Chris
Massoglia, Richard Paul, and Jess Robertson.
ABSENT: Councilmember Jason Smith.
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Michelle Wolfe; Community
Development Director Erik Thorvig; City Planner Sheila Sellman; Public
Works Director Jon Haukaas; Police Chief/Safety Services Manager
Brian Podany; Police Officer Travis Hale; Police Officer Trent Bachman;
Senior Parks and Recreation Manager Jerome Krieger; Finance
Director Joe Huss; City Engineer Dan Schluender; City Attorney Chris
Nelson; and Communications Manager Ben Hayle.
Present: 6 - Councilmember Robertson, Councilmember Paul, Councilmember Hovland,
Massoglia, Sanders, and Councilmember Jeppson
Absent: 1 - Smith
3 New Business
3-1 Council Requested Items for Discussion
None.
10 Minute Discussion
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3-2 2022 Transportation Project Overview City/County
Attachments: 2022 Road Projects-Title
2022 Road Projects-DAVENPORT
2022 Road Projects-XEBEC
2022 Road Projects-2022 STREET
2022 Road Projects-125TH AVE
2022 Road Projects-116 INTERSECTION
2022 Road Projects-CLOUD SIGNAL
5 Year Road CIP 2022-2026
Street CIP 2022-2026
City Engineer Schluender explained staff invited a representative from
Anoka County to this meeting in order to provide the council with an
overview on the proposed 2022 transportation projects that would be
completed in the City.
Joe MacPherson, Transportation Division Manager and County Engineer
for Anoka County, thanked the council for their time. He discussed the
projects that would be completed by the County that were located within
Blaine in 2022. He noted this includes a roadway segment along
Highway 14 at 125th Avenue. He reviewed how this area would be
improved, which included improvements to the county ditch. He reported
Zest would be receiving full access and all underground conduit would be
installed for a future signal system. The county wide overlay program was
discussed, along with the improvement planned for Lexington Avenue.
Councilmember Massoglia encouraged the county to consider sidewalks
for the north side of 125th Avenue. Mr. MacPherson stated pedestrian
ramps would be built at the main intersections for future connections. He
indicated the city could require future developers to complete sidewalks
or trails.
Councilmember Paul discussed how important pedestrian safety was
along 125th Avenue given the high speed of traffic. Mr. Schluender
explained most of the neighborhoods to the north have sidewalks within
their neighborhoods and there was a trail on the south side which created
a regional feel.
Councilmember Robertson asked if roundabouts made more sense than
more traffic lights, at Harpers or Cloud Drive. Mr. MacPherson stated
this was considered. He noted the county has not built a two lane or four
lane roundabout yet. He reported this was being considered at Sunset
because the traffic volumes were quite high along this roadway. He
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indicated the roundabout would also assist with slowing traffic.
Councilmember Robertson recommended the county consider installing
a pedestrian crosswalk across Lexington Avenue in order to allow
people to reach Loch Ness Park.
Councilmember Massoglia commented on how difficult it was to pass
through the intersection at TH65 and 109th Avenue. He questioned when
the county would consider an overpass for this intersection. Mr.
MacPherson reported this was quite a long way out. He discussed the
traffic volumes that would have to occur in order to create a grade
separation.
Mayor Sanders asked what the county can tell the city about the
expansion of 109th Avenue. Mr. MacPherson commented on the plans
for 109th Avenue noting plans would be sent to staff for review.
Mayor Sanders thanked Mr. MacPherson for his presentation.
Mr. Schluender discussed the city led projects that would be completed
in 2022 which included Davenport Street and 87th Avenue area, Xebec
Street and 98th Avenue, 129th Avenue, Radisson Road and 116th
Avenue, Radisson Road and Cloud Drive. Staff commented on the
neighborhood meetings that have already been held and noted staff
would be holding additional meetings with neighborhoods for several of
these projects.
Councilmember Hovland questioned if the speed humps on Baltimore
and Davenport would remain in place. Mr. Schluender reported staff
would be proposing that the speed humps not go back in and staff would
see what kind of push back they receive from the neighbors.
Further discussion ensued regarding the stormwater drainage for this
neighborhood.
Councilmember Massoglia asked if the city would be installing more of
the flashing yellow left turn lights along Radisson Road. Mr. Schluender
reported the blinking yellow left turn lights were evaluated and installed by
the county. Public Works Director Haukaas reported sight lines were
very important when considering flashing yellows.
Councilmember Robertson indicated her road was slated to be replaced
in the coming years. She estimated she would be responsible for paying
$20,000+ for her assessment over 15 years. She asked if she could let
her neighbors know about this upcoming project and expense. Mr.
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Schluender reported this project was a proposal at this point and was not
finalized. Mr. Haukaas explained the street projects were based on
street ratings and indicated the streets would be rated again prior to
these projects moving forward and adjustments could be made.
Mayor Sanders suggested an in depth discussion be held regarding the
pavement management plan at a future council retreat. Mr. Haukaas
reported a future discussion was not planned because the city was at its
bandwidth at this time.
Councilmember Paul requested comment on the area by Northtown. Mr.
Haukaas explained adjustments would be made in future years and
noted these plans were not solidified.
60 Minute Discussion
3-3 Road Extensions and Policy Discussion
Attachments: ROAD EXTENSIONS-Title
Mr. Schluender stated staff has identified several roadway extension or
unpaved roads that are key to the city’s transportation network. The
following roadway corridors have been identified on the city’s network as
future connections or extensions. The current practice is for the city to
wait for development to construct the street improvements with their
project(s). Several of the identified road extensions will be difficult for
development to construct as they are larger roadways with limited
development potential surrounding them.
The City has developed to the point where many of these will benefit the
larger areas surrounding them or the city transportation network as a
whole. He said staff would like to discuss specific corridors including
Lakes Parkway Extension - Existing Lakes Parkway to Lexington
Avenue, Zest Street Extension - Future Lakes Parkway to 125th Avenue,
131st Avenue - Existing 131st Avenue to Legacy Creek Parkway, Naples
Street Extension - Existing Naples Street to 109th Avenue, and 105th
Avenue Extension - Naples Street to Pheasant Ridge Drive.
Mr. Schluender explained staff is seeking council feedback to determine
if there is a desire to take the lead in construction of these improvements
ahead of development and to potentially stimulate development.
Councilmember Jeppson stated based on last week’s meeting, she
appreciated the information that was provided regarding ARPA funds
and suggested these dollars be used for city infrastructure that could spur
future development. She supported water and sewer being connected
from Lakes Parkway to Lexington Avenue. She hoped that the “parkway”
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feel would continue through the connection.
Mayor Sanders agreed stating he would like developers to see this as a
continuation of The Lakes development.
Councilmember Robertson commented she also believed this made
sense. She wanted to see this connection a continuation of the existing
parkway with landscaped medians. Mr. Haukaas indicated the water
was extended across Lakes Parkway noting sewer extensions would be
needed. He reported if the city were to complete this extension it would
be the city taking the lead on future development and the city would have
to come up with a new assessment policy for the west extension road.
Councilmember Hovland stated he liked the idea of extending Lakes
Parkway. He indicated this would give the city the opportunity to control
how the area develops. He understood the city would be spending a lot
of money up front. He noted the city would have to be careful with how
and when to use the ARPA funds. He supported the city working on a
new assessment policy.
Mayor Sanders excused himself from the meeting at 7:00PM.
Councilmember Jeppson stated the Naples Street and 105th Avenue
extensions were further down the list of importance for her than Lakes
Parkway and Zest Street extensions.
Councilmember Massoglia asked what the estimates would be for the
cost difference between the city installing the roads versus the developer
installing the roads. Mr. Schluender commented on the cost difference
and noted a cost share option could be considered.
Councilmember Massoglia inquired if the costs could be assessed to a
future developer. Mr. Schluender stated this has been done in the past for
water and sewer lines, where connection fees are charged to future
developers. He reported the cost for streets cannot be deferred.
Councilmember Massoglia questioned if the city were to install the
roadway connections would this provide the city a bargaining chip as to
the type of developments that were pursued. Mr. Schluender commented
this would be a tool the city could use. Community Development Director
Thorvig stated it would be challenging for the city to wait for development
but may work if the city was working in coordination with a developer. He
anticipated the Lakes Parkway extension would be easier to develop
than the Zest Street extension.
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Councilmember Paul commented on the Zest Street and 131st Avenue
extensions. He’s concerned the residents in these areas were not ready
for a project. Mr. Schluender reported the county was proposing to
complete 125th this summer. He anticipated the city’s project would take
longer to pull together and complete. He discussed the parcels that would
be needed in order to complete a project along 131st Avenue.
Councilmember Hovland asked if bonding would be required to complete
these extensions. Finance Director Huss stated staff would have to
further investigate if the water and sewer lines could be deferred. He
noted the city did not have other resources available except to bond for
these projects. He indicated staff would have to meet with its financial
consultant and bond counsel to discuss this further.
Councilmember Robertson stated she only supported Lakes Parkway
being extended.
Councilmember Paul questioned if funds could be put away for these
projects. Mr. Huss stated the city would need to have an approved project
in order to bond for these projects, but noted other funding sources could
be explored.
Mr. Haukaas thanked the council for their feedback and noted they would
begin working on an assessment policy and would put these extensions
into the city’s pavement management plan.
45 Minute Discussion
3-4 School Zone Safety
Attachments: school project-JOHNSVILLE
school project-MADISON
school project-NORTHPOINT
school project-ROOSEVELT
Mr. Schluender stated there have been several accidents this year at or
near schools in Blaine involving pedestrians and vehicles. At the council
workshop on December 13 council requested that staff prepare an item
to discuss school zone safety at and around the schools to see if any
improvements can be implemented. Staff reported over the past few
years student access to schools has been migrating away from a mostly
bus/walker (+/- 85%) and parent drop off/pickup (+/-15%) model. This
migration was accelerated based on the last two years of the schools
dealing with the variety of learning forums that are being used and more
recently a lack of bus drivers. In discussions with one school district the
student access model now looks more like bus/walker (+/-15%) and
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parent drop off/pickup (+/- 85%). This has created an issue with most of
the school campuses and the street networks surrounding the schools as
neither were designed for that volume of vehicular traffic. Staff has
identified several campuses (Johnsville Elementary, Madison
Elementary, Northpoint Elementary and Roosevelt Middle School) that
the city should review and discuss what this looks like and some of the
impacts it is creating.
Mr. Schluender discussed several actions that staff was looking to
implement. Public Works has ordered a number of portable signs with
heavy rubber bases to place in designated crosswalks near the schools
that say “School - State Law- Stop for Pedestrians in Crosswalk”. The
plan is to place these out each year in late August prior to the school year
beginning as a visual reminder to drivers. They will then be picked up in
October before the first snowfall. These are meant to supplement the
typical school zone signage. Temporary signage like this keeps the
reminder “fresh” each year. The Police Department has increased its
education and enforcement activities in and around these and several
other school campuses. Most of their activity has been focused on
distracted driving and speeding in school zones. The Engineering
Department has started an audit of the existing public
streets/sidewalk/trails around several of the school campuses to
determine if the proper signage and striping are in place and properly
located. It was noted staff would be reaching out to these four schools to
make them aware of the city’s concerns.
Councilmember Hovland asked if schools in other cities were
experiencing similar concerns. Mr. Schluender anticipated this was the
case.
Councilmember Hovland questioned if the school districts bussing
distance policy should be reconsidered. He suggested the schools look
to create larger drop off areas given the shift that has occurred.
Councilmember Jeppson thanked staff for looking into this further. She
reported she looked forward to hearing ideas from staff and the school
district in order to make change happen and to improve school zone
safety.
Councilmember Robertson stated she has received calls from angry
parents who want to protect their kids. She anticipated that no matter
how many signs are put up, there were still people who just did not care.
She indicated she did not want the city getting too far into the schools
business, but rather wanted the school to address the safety concerns
that have been created on their campuses. However, she explained she
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strongly appreciated all of the efforts from staff and the police
department. Mr. Schluender agreed noting the city was only offering
suggestions to the school district at this time.
Councilmember Hovland suggested signage establishing the school
zones be posted because this would help the police department enforce
speed. He stated he would like to hear from the officers regarding the
speeding that was occurring in the school zones.
Officer Hale explained speeding was occurring and how people did not
always realize that they were entering a school zone then discussed how
traffic backups are managed. He agreed it would be beneficial for staff
and the police department to work with the school district to address the
city’s concerns. He indicated his only concern would be that the schools
would continue to challenge the city’s ideas.
Councilmember Paul expressed concern with the lack of walking routes
to some of the schools. Mr. Schluender reported this was a concern for
some of the schools.
15 Minute Discussion
3-5 Establishment of Additional Park Use Regulations
Attachments: City of Woodbury Park Rules Example
Park Ordinance
Park Rules - PowerPoint
Senior Parks and Recreation Manager Krieger stated staff has been
discussing the need for possible additions of park use regulations
around other activities currently not covered by city code, such as
archery, golfing, camping, fires and waste/litter. It was noted staff
reviewed code languages from other communities in order to better
understand how to regulate these concerns. Staff explained some sort of
language was necessary in order to allow the police department to
address staff’s concerns. Examples of the additional regulations were
reviewed in further detail with the council and staff requested feedback
from the council on how to proceed.
Councilmember Hovland questioned when the last time the park use
regulations were reviewed. Mr. Krieger stated he did not recall this being
done in the past 15 years.
Councilmember Hovland supported the city being flexible and
accommodating, while also being able to enforce the rules that were in
place. He stated he did not support camping in city parks, but indicated
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he could support fire rings in certain areas within the parks. He supported
the council creating language to address staff’s concerns, while also
considering a driving range in order to accommodate the golfers in the
community.
Councilmember Robertson commented she did not like rules because
she was concerned they would not be followed. She indicated she would
be able to support code language because it would give the police
department the tools they needed to enforce and address staff’s
concerns. Mr. Krieger stated he understood these concerns, but noted
additional code language would assist the police department with
addressing people who were continually abusing city parks. Safety
Services Manager/Police Chief Podany commented on the minimum
language he would need in place to better support his officers.
Councilmember Hovland asked if any of these concerns have been
discussed with the park board. Mr. Krieger stated staff brought their
concerns to the council prior to discussing these matters with the park
board.
Councilmember Hovland commented he would like the park board to
review the park use policy to see how some of the concerns could be
accommodated in designated areas, such as having a park that has a
fire pit that could be used with a permit. He believed this warranted more
discussion in order to find a balance between providing activities and
giving the police department the proper tools to enforce concerns.
Councilmember Paul discussed the park use regulations that were
already in place, noting this document was very good. He supported the
park board reviewing this document. He supported the officers having
the proper tools in place to address the concerns that have been raised
by staff.
Councilmember Jeppson commented she would not support any
ordinance that would disallow camping. She recommended that before
this matter goes to the park board that the fire department be involved to
provide input on having fire pits in city parks.
Councilmember Hovland concurred with this recommendation. He
suggested that the city consider making an area where camping was
permitted, versus allowing camping in all city parks.
Councilmember Jeppson asked if camping has been a concern in the
city. Police Chief Podany noted there have been concerns on Laddie
Lake that required public works cleanup.
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Councilmember Robertson recommended this not be brought to the park
board for further consideration at this time because again, she did not
want the council making more rules that would be difficult for the city to
enforce.
Councilmember Jeppson commented if staff believed the concerns were
egregious enough that it warranted an ordinance, then staff should report
back to the council with an ordinance.
Councilmember Hovland agreed with this recommendation.
Mr. Krieger thanked the council for their feedback.
30 Minute Discussion
3-6 Archery Ranges
Police Chief Podany stated staff met recently as part of overall city code
review and focused on archery ranges. After discussion staff is
recommending amending the ordinance and removing Sec. 50-115(b)
that would clarify archery range permits will no longer be issued. There
currently are no approved ranges in the city and because any type of
arrow used would travel too far to safely be able to issue a permit, staff
recommends removing ranges code. An indoor range would be allowed
with no permitting and an outdoor practice-only range could be allowed
with no permitting as long as the arrow is not point tipped (safety
tips/rubber) and used for practice only with an appropriate
target/backstop - this amendment would only affect arrows defined under
the deadly weapon definition. Staff recalls very few requests over the
years for this type of activity so there does not seem to be much of a
demand for a range and this proposed amendment would clean up the
code. Staff reviewed the code amendment in detail with the council and
requested feedback.
City Manager Wolfe reported the current city code language was
confusing to staff and police officers which was why this item was brought
to the council for consideration.
Councilmember Hovland reported Arden Hills and Coon Rapids both
have archery ranges. He asked if Blaine could have an archery range
attached to the gun club. He indicated he had concerns with allowing
residents to have archery ranges in their backyards. He commented the
only other area in Blaine that may be able to accommodate an archery
range would be the National Sports Center.
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Ms. Wolfe commented at this time she was recommending the language
that states the city manager may issues permits be omitted from the
ordinance.
Councilmember Jeppson supported this recommendation.
Council consensus was to direct staff to bring this change forward.
15 Minute Discussion
ADJOURN
The Workshop was adjourned at 8:45PM.
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Agenda
City of Blaine
Anoka County, Minnesota
Blaine City Hall
10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Meeting Agenda - Final
Monday, January 10, 2022
6:00 PM
Cloverleaf Farm Room A
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are welcome to attend, it is a
work session for City Council and staff to discuss issues before them. It is not for the
purpose of receiving public input.
City Council Workshop Meeting Agenda - Final January 10, 2022
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 22-002 Council Requested Items for Discussion
Sponsors: Council
10 Minute Discussion
3-2 WS 22-003 2022 Transportation Project Overview City/County
Sponsors: Schluender
Attachments: 2022 Road Projects-Title
2022 Road Projects-DAVENPORT
2022 Road Projects-XEBEC
2022 Road Projects-2022 STREET
2022 Road Projects-125TH AVE
2022 Road Projects-116 INTERSECTION
2022 Road Projects-CLOUD SIGNAL
5 Year Road CIP 2022-2026
Street CIP 2022-2026
60 Minute Discussion
3-3 WS 22-004 Road Extensions and Policy Discussion
Sponsors: Schluender
Attachments: ROAD EXTENSIONS-Title
45 Minute Discussion
3-4 WS 22-005 School Zone Safety
Sponsors: Schluender
Attachments: school project-JOHNSVILLE
school project-MADISON
school project-NORTHPOINT
school project-ROOSEVELT
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15 Minute Discussion
3-5 WS 22-006 Establishment of Additional Park Use Regulations
Sponsors: Krieger
Attachments: City of Woodbury Park Rules Example
Park Ordinance
Park Rules - PowerPoint
30 Minute Discussion
3-6 WS 22-007 Archery Ranges
Sponsors: Sorensen
15 Minute Discussion
ADJOURN
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