City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · September 19, 2022
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and
staff to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, September 19, 2022 6:00 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sanders at 6:00PM.
2 Roll Call
PRESENT: Mayor Tim Sanders, Councilmembers Wes Hovland, Julie
Jeppson, Chris Massoglia, Tom Newland, Richard Paul, and Jess
Robertson.
ABSENT: None.
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: Acting City Manager Joe Huss; Community
Development Director Erik Thorvig; City Planner Sheila Sellman; Public
Works Director Jon Haukaas; Safety Services Manager/Police Chief
Brian Podany; Deputy Finance Director Alison Bong; Finance Public
Works Asset Management Shawn Smith; City Engineer Dan Schluender;
City Attorney Chris Nelson; Deputy Public Works Director Nick
Fleishhacker; and City Clerk Catherine Sorensen.
Mayor Sanders commented on upcoming Council agenda items 10.2
through 10.4 for the apartment complex at 111 99th Avenue NE. City
Attorney Nelson discussed the amended staff report provided to the
Council noting there was a focus on the development flex conditions. He
explained for those voting against this project he recommended the
Council’s comments be grounded in the criteria of the rezoning to
development flex as opposed to whether the site was appropriate for
apartments.
3 New Business
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3-1 2023 Capital Equipment
Attachments: 2023 Capital Equipment Initial Requests
2023 Capital Equipment Presentation
Deputy Finance Director Bong stated capital equipment includes assets
that have a useful life longer than one year and a cost of at least $5,000.
Items typically included are computer hardware, software, vehicles, and
heavy machinery. The City budgets for capital equipment in the capital
equipment fund, utility funds, and the facilities fund. The capital
equipment fund includes general government capital equipment. The
utility funds include capital equipment used in the operations of the water,
sewer, and storm drainage utilities. The Facilities Fund includes
equipment used to maintain City buildings. Staff commented further on
the capital equipment fund, described the challenges the City was facing
with inflation and supply chain issues, and asked for comments or
questions from the Council. It was noted the Council would be further
discussing the 2023 capital equipment fund at the October Council
retreat.
Councilmember Jeppson indicated there were a significant number
(50%) of requests within the fleet equipment that don’t have ratings. Ms.
Bong stated explained the requests that do not have a rating were either
not part of the fleet study or they the City was recommending to keep an
older piece of equipment and add to the fleet.
Councilmember Jeppson commented it was hard for her to not have a
rating for these pieces of equipment. She indicated there were also
ratings on the study that rated equipment with good condition or better
and she was wondering why these were needing to be replaced, added
or new. Ms. Bong reported this was based on the fleet study completed
in 2021 then explained staff had not gone through and updated milage.
She stated if the police vehicle milage were updated then this would
change the fleet rating.
Councilmember Jeppson requested staff provide the Council with more
background information to understand how some of these pieces of
equipment went from excellent to needing replacement. Ms. Bong
commented on how staff can work to provide the Council with more
information through the fleet right sizing study. Acting City Manager Huss
stated these were the type of questions that will be coming through the
additional vetting. He discussed how some vehicles, while needing to be
replaced, will be repurposed for another use for the City.
Councilmember Newland commented these were his questions as well
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and recommended staff provide the Council with updated information for
the fleet because this would make decision making clearer. He believed
the overall dollar amount was very high and the increase was as well and
even with the background information provided by staff he still wanted to
learn more about the current fleet ratings.
Councilmember Paul thanked staff for their work on the fleet study and
capital equipment budget. He explained he would like to better
understand how the ratings were set for streets, sewer, and drainage
equipment because these were important pieces of equipment.
Councilmember Hovland asked if approximately 50% of the City’s
wheeled vehicles were being replaced. Ms. Bong stated 45% were in
poor condition and were in consideration for needing replacement.
Councilmember Hovland indicated he would like to see the City’s stage
this more and questioned why this happened all at once. Ms. Bong
reported staff would be reviewing this through the fleet right sizing study
then indicated staff was not proposing to replace 45% of the fleet next
year but was considering the right timing for each vehicle.
Councilmember Hovland inquired if staff was using the program Council
purchased to assist with managing the fleet and fleet replacements. Ms.
Bong reported the program the City has for fleet management is called
Dossier and staff was able to get a fair amount of data from this system.
She indicated the fleet right sizing study would also assist staff with
managing the fleet. She commended the City’s fleet mechanics for
getting the most out of each piece of equipment the City owns. Public
Works Director Haukaas commented further on how staff was utilizing the
Dossier software and noted staff could be using it better. He discussed
how the City was in this position partly because of COVID, with
purchases being put on hold or delayed for several years in addition to
supply chain issues. He explained the City was at the point where it
needed to do some catch up adding with the size of Blaine there was a
growing amount of infrastructure and prices continued to rise.
Councilmember Newland questioned if staff had an idea of what the
numbers would look like for 2024. Mr. Haukaas stated he fully supported
the numbers that were presented by staff. Deputy Public Works Director
Fleishhacker estimated the City would be spending $1 million a year for
the next 10 years, with the City continuing to repurpose or down cycle
vehicles. Mr. Huss explained this was the Council’s first review of this
information and this item will be further discussed at the Council retreat in
October. Staff commented further on the inflationary environment staff
was facing and how the rising cost of vehicles would impact the City’s
budget going forward.
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Council consensus was to further discuss the capital equipment fund and fleet
management program at the October retreat.
45 Minute Discussion
3-2 Enterprise Asset Management Software (EAMS) Search and 2023
Budget Update
Attachments: CMMS Needs Assessment and RFP.pdf
WSB_EAMS Needs Assessment and RFP Development_2022.pdf
Council EAMS Presentation.pdf
Mr. Huss stated the purpose of this item is to provide Council an update
on the Enterprise Asset Management Software (EAMS) search and the
associated capital equipment budget request as part of the 2023 budget.
During the 2021 budget process to establish the 2022 general fund
budget, general levy, enterprise funds budgets, and enterprise fund user
rates, staff introduced the concept of a Computerized Maintenance
Management System (CMMS) also known as an Enterprise Asset
Management System (EAMS). For the purposes of this and future
discussions staff will use EAMS in both written documentation and oral
discussion. These types of systems are increasingly critical for managing
all the important assets of a City.
Public Works Asset Management Smith explained as part of the budget
process, staff provided an updated budget request to Council at the
October 30, 2021 winter retreat related to the EAMS system (then
referred to as the CMMS). The request was changed from a full
acquisition and implementation of the software to a needs assessment
and RFP development. At that time the estimated cost to hire a
contractor for these activities was $34,000, which was approved for
inclusion in the 2022 General Fund budget and 2022 Utilities Funds
budgets. As part of due diligence and to establish a project budget, staff
sought informal quotes from some of the leading EAMS software
vendors for cities of a comparable size and asset base. Three of the
leading vendors provided quotes ranging in price from $107,000 to
$172,500. Staff commented further on how the program would greatly
benefit staff and staff efficiencies if integrated between multiple
departments within the City. It was noted staff is requesting Council input
regarding the inclusion of EAMS software costs in the 2023 budget and
seeks feedback regarding the proposed purchase.
Councilmember Jeppson asked if staff relied on employees to report
their time spent on activities or were there digital methods in place to log
time and milage. Mr. Smith stated this was being reported both ways.
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Councilmember Jeppson questioned if historical information would be
able to be logged into the new EAMS software. Mr. Smith reported this
was the case.
Councilmember Hovland inquired if all the data stored within the EAMS
system would be backed up in the cloud. Mr. Smith explained all
information would be saved to a server.
Councilmember Paul asked who would be in charge of all the
departments, overseeing the use of this program. Mr. Smith commented
if implemented correctly, the program will almost manage itself but added
he would be overseeing the new program.
Councilmember Jeppson stated she supported the phased approach of
searching for an EAMS. She noted Blaine was the tenth largest City in
the state and the City needed to have the property resources in place to
manage itself. She commented her only concern was if this was a big
cultural shift if there would be a huge learning curve for staff. Mr. Haukaas
stated this was the reason staff was recommending a phased approach.
He indicated the City would begin with a needs assessment and hiring a
consultant that knows what they are doing that can walk the City through
this process. He explained the City was not rushing into anything, but
rather was seeking the right approach.
Councilmember Massoglia asked what the current yearly cost was for the
public works software. Mr. Smith stated this expense was $5,700 a year.
Informational: no action required
30 Minute Discussion
4 Other Business
4-1 Federal Lobbying Work Plan
Attachments: 2022 Blaine Federal Agenda - FINAL DRAFT.docx
Mr. Huss discussed the 2022 Blaine Federal Agenda prepared by the
City’s federal lobbying firm, The Ferguson Group. This document is still
being reviewed by staff and can be amended as needed. The City’s
largest priority is to secure funding for the TH65 project. The rest of the
document reflects discussions with staff, identifying areas where
advocacy should be ongoing and/or funding sources should be actively
monitored and identified. TFG and staff have a biweekly online meeting
to discuss recent news and activities. In addition, the TFG staff sends
regular updates via e-mail. As with the state lobbying work plan, this will
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not be adopted formally; rather, Council will be asked to indicate
consensus that the work plan meets their expectations for the federal
lobbying effort.
Informational: no action required
15 Minute Discussion
ADJOURN
The Workshop was adjourned at 7:28PM.
Adjourned
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Agenda
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, September 19, 2022 6:00 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 22-106 2023 Capital Equipment
Sponsors: Bong
Attachments: 2023 Capital Equipment Initial Requests
2023 Capital Equipment Presentation
45 Minute Discussion
3-2 WS 22-107 Enterprise Asset Management Software (EAMS) Search and 2023 Budget
Update
Attachments: CMMS Needs Assessment and RFP.pdf
WSB_EAMS Needs Assessment and RFP Development_2022.pdf
Council EAMS Presentation.pdf
30 Minute Discussion
4 Other Business
4-1 WS 22-108 Federal Lobbying Work Plan
Sponsors: Huss
Attachments: 2022 Blaine Federal Agenda - FINAL DRAFT.docx
15 Minute Discussion
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ADJOURN
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