Common Council Organizational Meeting
Regular MeetingBloomington, IN · January 11, 2023
Minutes
In the Council Chambers of the Showers City Hall, Bloomington, Indiana on COMMON COUNCIL
Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:30pm, Council President Susan Sandberg ORGANIZATIONAL
presided over the Organizational Meeting of the Common Council. MEETING
January 11, 2023
Councilmembers present: Matt Flaherty, Isabel Piedmont-Smith, Dave Rollo, Kate ROLL CALL [6:30pm]
Rosenbarger, Susan Sandberg, Sue Sgambelluri, Jim Sims, Ron Smith, Stephen Volan
Councilmembers present via Zoom: none
Councilmembers absent: none
Council President Susan Sandberg summarized the agenda. AGENDA SUMMATION
[6:31pm]
There were no minutes for approval. APPROVAL OF
MINUTES [6:31pm]
Smith wished everyone a Happy New Year. REPORTS [6:32pm]
Volan concurred and noted Charlotte Zietlow's book COUNCIL MEMBERS
[6:32pm]
Sims and Sgambelluri also wished all a Happy New Year.
Piedmont-Smith, Rosenbarger, and Flaherty mentioned their upcoming constituent
meetings.
Rollo wished everyone a safe and Happy New Year.
Deputy Mayor Mary Catherine Carmichael thanked council for the opportunity to The MAYOR AND CITY
reintroduce herself. She highlighted her experience with Parks Commissions and OFFICES [6:35pm]
her employment with the city as the Communications Director with Mayor John
Hamilton, and later the first Director of Public Engagement. She noted her
experience including being a radio host, Director of Leadership Bloomington
Monroe County, small business owner, former Board President of the Bloomington
Economic Development Corporation (BEDC), Government Affairs Director at a local
utility, and her volunteer work with children and the arts. She also enjoyed being a
mother. She was the second female Deputy Mayor. Carmichael thanked city staff,
colleagues, and Hamilton. She said it had been delightful to work with council, too.
John Zody, Director of Housing and Neighborhood Development, gave an update on
the report on Public Input on use of HOME/American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA)
Funding. He highlighted uses of funds, outreach, public comment opportunities, and
the timeline.
Sims asked how the public comment period would be publicized.
Zody said there would be direct, and broad outreach to community
organizations, as well as the notice in the newspaper.
Sandberg commented on the Community Development Block Grants (CDBG) Social COUNCIL
Services committee and the recent public hearing to hear from the thirteen COMMITTEES
applicants. [6:43pm]
Greg Alexander commented on a bicycle task force report, its goals, and the PUBLIC [6:44pm]
extension of the B-Line. He said a safe path program for schoolchildren was needed.
He expressed frustration for Elm Heights residents disdain for traffic calming
efforts in their neighborhood.
Eric Ost said that there was a lot of passion around transportation infrastructure in
the community. The frustration for Elm Heights was unfair and there needed to be
more objectivity.
Marc Haggerty spoke about violence in the community and the importance of
activities like basketball, especially as a deterrent for other bad options.
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ELECTION OF
Rollo moved and it was seconded that Sue Sgambelluri be elected as President. OFFICERS [6:58pm]
Sgambelluri appreciated the nomination and thanked her colleagues for their work Council discussion:
She noted the previous year's work, and commented on scheduling.
Volan said Sgambelluri was interested in the Special Committee on Council
Processes (SCCP) and asked if, as president, she would address it.
Sgambelluri said yes and that more engagement with the community was
important. Councilmembers could report on their constituent meetings, as well as
work with city boards and commissions more closely.
Volan asked if she was interested in setting time limits for questions and
answers, or public comments, per item.
Sgambelluri said yes, and that was part of why she looked forward to SCCP.
Vote to elect Council
The motion received a roll call vote of Ayes: 8, Nays: 1 (Volan), Abstain: 0. President [7:02pm]
Rollo moved and it was seconded that Isabel Piedmont-Smith be elected as Vice
President.
Council discussion:
Piedmont-Smith stated she would be pleased to serve as Vice President.
Volan asked Piedmont-Smith if she had specific ideas on addressing lengthy
council meetings through time limits or other improvements.
Piedmont-Smith said yes and that SCCP could address it.
Vote to elect Council
The motion received a roll call vote of Ayes: 9, Nays: 0, Abstain: 0. Vice President
[7:05pm]
Sandberg moved and it was seconded that Dave Rollo be elected as Parliamentarian.
Council discussion:
Rollo stated that he would be happy to serve as parliamentarian and believed time
limits were necessary.
Vote to elect Council
The motion received a roll call vote of Ayes: 7, Nays: 1 (Volan), Abstain: 1 (Rollo). Parliamentarian
[7:06pm]
Sgambelluri noted council's work and Sandberg's leadership over her tenure as
Council President. She presented Sandberg with a gavel in honor of her work
Council applauded Sandberg.
Sandberg handed the gavel to Sgambelluri who listed the new seating arrangement.
Council President Sue Sgambelluri presided over the remainder of the meeting.
Sgambelluri established the Special Committee on Council Processes (SCCP). APPOINTMENTS TO
Sgambelluri appointed the following councilmembers to the Special Committee: COUNCIL
Flaherty (chair), Piedmont-Smith, Rollo, Sgambelluri COMMITTEES
[7:10pm]
Sgambelluri appointed the following councilmembers to the Climate Action &
Resilience Committee: Flaherty, Piedmont-Smith, Rollo (chair), Smith
Sgambelluri appointed the following councilmembers to the Jack Hopkins Social
Services Funding Committee: Sandberg (chair), Sims, Rosenbarger, Smith
Sgambelluri appointed the following councilmembers to the Council Sidewalk
Committee: Sandberg, Sims (chair), Rosenbarger, Volan
Sgambelluri made the following assignments to the Board and Commission
Interview Committees:
• Interview Team A- Smith, Sims, Rosenbarger
• Interview Team B- Sgambelluri, Volan, Flaherty
• Interview Team C- Piedmont-Smith, Rollo, Sandberg
Meeting Date: 01-11-23 p. 3
Sgambelluri announced that council appointments to boards and commissions APPOINTMENTS TO
would take place at the next Regular Session of the Council on January 18, 2023. BOARDS AND
COMMISSIONS
[7:13pm]
LEGISLATION FOR
SECOND READING
AND RESOLUTIONS
[7:13pm]
Rollo moved and it was seconded that Resolution 22-20 be read by title and Resolution 22-20 - A
synopsis only. The motion was approved by voice vote. Clerk Nicole Bolden read the Resolution
legislation by title and synopsis. Resolution 22-20 was adopted on December 14, Responding to
2022 with a vote of Ayes: 8, Nays: 1 (Rosenbarger), Abstain: 0 and was presented to Monroe County Board
Mayor John Hamilton on December 15, 2022. Resolution 22-20 was returned by of Commissioners
Hamilton, unsigned, along with a statement of reasons for his veto. Ordinance 2022-46
[7:13pm]
Rollo moved and it was seconded that Resolution 22-20 be adopted.
Stephen Lucas, Council Attorney/Administrator, provided a brief history of
Resolution 22-20. He provided options council could undertake that evening
including a two-thirds vote overriding the veto and adopting the legislation.
Sandberg added that council had a tight deadline to support the county's path
forward as the Capital Improvement Board (CIB) as the mechanism for any
expansion to the Convention Center using Food and Beverage Tax (FBT) funds. It
was important to bring the legislation back to council, as a separate entity from the
mayor, as well as showing support for moving forward.
Monroe County Commissioner Julie Thomas wished everyone a Happy New Year.
She agreed that there had been a short timeline in December for council to decide to
support the CIB or not. Resolution 22-20 would be non-binding because the
deadline had passed. She stated that council's vote that evening would send a
message regarding the CIB. She gave a brief history of the FBT including the
promise of working with the county by the city.
Monroe County Commissioner Lee Jones supported Thomas's statements.
Sgambelluri acknowledged Mayor Hamilton's statement with his veto.
Volan asked if the commissioners believed that the FBT should be repealed. Council questions:
Thomas responded that she supported the FBT, especially if the CIB moved
forward.
Sandberg had attended a recent legislative update where a question was asked
about the possibility of the Indiana General Assembly (GA) eliminating the FBT. She
asked what would occur if that happened.
Thomas said that without the administration's support, the county would have to
demonstrate to the GA the seriousness of using that tax. An agreement on the CIB
structure would have to exist. She listed other concerns.
Deputy Mayor Mary Catherine Carmichael commented that the GA had attempted
and failed to remove the FBT the previous year. She reiterated that the CIB was not
the only mechanism to manage the expansion of the Convention Center.
Piedmont-Smith asked if the mayor intended to move forward with a 501c3 and if
there was a requirement for the county to sign off on that.
Carmichael stated that it was the mayor's intention to have a 501c3 and did not
need the county to sign off.
Piedmont-Smith believed that the county council had to sign off on expenditures
from the FBT.
Carmichael said that a 501c3 did not require the county's approval, but did
require county council approval for expenditures of the FBT.
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Sims said that a 501c3 would separate the efforts from the city from the county Resolution 22-20
regarding the Convention Center. He asked for clarification. (cont'd)
Carmichael clarified that there were many things that a 501 c3 could do for the
city that a CIB could not, such as managing other city owned properties like the
Hopewell site or Waldron Arts Center. More information would come later in the
week She said there would be many opportunities to include the county as
required and by choice. State funding primarily flowed through the county.
Sims asked for examples of other ways that progress could be measured, locally
and at the state level.
Carmichael said that staff had been updating the GA on the progress including
initial steps like design efforts.
Sims asked what would happen, or what the lobbyists would recommend, if the
CIB was not formed, which he understood was a deal breaker for the county.
Carmichael clarified that the lobbyists would not advise, but would ask what the
next steps would be.
Sims asked if next steps would be done along with county leadership.
Carmichael said the city would have to work with the county.
Smith asked why it was so important for the city to have control over the entity that
managed the Convention Center.
Carmichael said that the city did not have any interest in managing the facility
but did want it built expertly, quickly, and well. The city wanted the asset ready for
the community in a timely fashion. She said there had been problems in working
with the county, and could continue to slow the expansion.
Smith asked if there was a sunset for the 501c3.
Carmichael said that the 501c3 would encompass more than the Convention
Center, but could have a sunset relating to the expansion.
Piedmont-Smith asked how the city envisioned working with the county, given that
county government did not agree with the city having a 501c3.
Carmichael described ways that the city and county could collaborate including
the use of the Innkeeper's Tax, with county appointed members.
Piedmont-Smith said the entities would be the Convention and Visitors Center
Board (CVCB) and the FBT Advisory Committee (FBTAC).
Smith asked if the city would agree to binding arbitration.
Carmichael stated that had not been discussed so she did not know.
Volan asked if public comment was allowed on a veto-override vote.
Lucas said yes because it was considered to be normal course of business.
Christopher Emge, Greater Bloomington Chamber of Commerce, reaffirmed the Public comment:
business community's strong commitment to the CIB as the governance structure
for the Convention Center expansion. He gave supporting reasons.
Geoff McKim thanked council for their diligence with decisions on the expansion of
the Convention Center. Having the city and county partner together would result in
greater success of the expansion. He urged council to support the CIB.
Mike Campbell, President of the Convention and Visitors Center Commission, said
they were ready to partner with the city and move forward. There were some items
that would need to be addressed with the 501c3.
Peter Iversen, Monroe County Council, urged councilmembers to support the CIB. It
was important for growth, tourism, and bringing businesses to the community. He
iterated that collaboration was important.
Julie Thomas thanked council and said that a 501c3 was not transparent and did not
have to meet publicly. The Convention Center expansion should not be under the
purview of a 501c3, and she would not support the FBT if the 501c3 was formed.
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Tonda Radewan looked forward to more partnerships between the city and county. Resolution 22-20
She said that 501c3s were less transparent and she, and the public, would like to (cont'd)
know who would sit on the leadership board of that entity.
·Public comment:
Dave Askins, BSquare Bulletin, asked about FBTAC approvals for expenditure of
funds. He believed a majority vote was necessary and asked how that was put
before the FBTAC. He believed it was council and not the administration.
Lucas read a comment from Sam Dove submitted via Zoom chat stating that the
"council needed to pass the issue and vote again with the mayor [sic]."
Piedmont-Smith asked how a request for the expenditure of funds would be made Council comment:
to the FBT AC; from council or the mayor.
Lucas stated that council passed a resolution in 2020 regarding requesting a
recommendation from the FBTAC on the expenditures of the FBT revenues, as
directed by state statute §6-9-41-16.
Rollo commented that a CIB was the best means for an objective path forward, and
was the county's preference. It ensured transparency and was subject to Public
Access laws. It would be a collaborative approach to working with the county. He
would support Resolution 22-20.
Volan understood and supported the utility of a 501c3 to oversee things in the city
like the historic alcohol permits in the downtown area. He was agnostic about a
501c3 overseeing the Convention Center expansion but there had to be an entity to
manage it. It appeared that the administration was holding off to ensure a majority
power. Volan said that if it came down to encumbering the money or losing the FBT,
then he would vote to end the tax, despite advocating for it. If a majority of the
council believed that the CIB was adequate, then the administration should accept
it, and if a 501c3 had a role, then the county should accept thattoo. Volan believed
that the city should have a 501c3. The main point was about who would be in
charge of the Convention Center, and a management scheme could be adequately
designed for all stakeholders.
Sandberg clarified that the FBT was under the county council's purview. She hoped
that the city and county could collaborate on the expansion and would support the
CIB. She also did not believe that all the entities had been contacted regarding the
duties of the 501c3. She reiterated that council was considering overriding the
mayor's veto and standing with the county.
Flaherty stated that he did not find the mayor's veto offensive. It was a signal that
he did not agree with forming a CIB. The county commissioner's ordinance said the
CIB would take effect upon receipt of notification from the mayor and council
agreeing with the terms. He would vote for Resolution 22-20 and reminded
everyone that council had passed an amendment to the legislation which sought to
address the administration's concerns and have greater balance between the city
and county. He referenced community justice reform as analogous to the current
issue of collaboration between the city and county.
Sims said that rescinding the tax was ludicrous. He referenced comments from
county commissioners stating they would vote to rescind the tax if an agreement
was not reached. He spoke about the city and county reaching an agreement despite
vast differences. Council had supported the CIB via Resolution 22-20. He was not
set on having a 501c3, though it could manage city-owned properties. He discussed
the appointments to the CIB and to the 501c3. He wondered what the best option in
the long term was. Sims supported Resolution 22-20.
Piedmont-Smith would rather not be discussing the Convention Center expansion
considering local governments' responsibilities to the community. She was the only
councilmember to abstain in voting on the FBT in 2017. The expansion was not a
priority for use of tax monies. She noted climate crisis and the warming of the
ocean; it was not ideal to expand a venue for people to arrive using fossil fuels.
Conventions could be held online and should be. She expressed frustration on the
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disagreement between county and city executives. She would support Resolution Resolution 22-20
22-20 because the CIB was the best solution. She reiterated that not everyone was (cont'd)
thrilled about an expansion of the Convention Center.
Council comments:
Rosenbarger concurred with Piedmont-Smith and stated she would vote against
Resolution 22-20 because she did not agree with the expansion. It was not about
the CIB or 501c3. She discussed the overall increase of convention center spaces
despite falling attendance and use of those spaces. She noted a survey of community
members demonstrating that the expansion was not a priority.
Smith acknowledged the disagreement between the city and county. He believed
professional help, such as a mediator or social worker, would help move the project
forward. Smith stated that it was unknown if the state would take action and
restrict Food and Beverage taxes. He would support Resolution 22-20.
Volan said that a 501c3 could manage city owned properties. He discussed the
Buskirk-Chumley which was celebrating its 100th anniversary, as well as the
Waldron Arts Center, which was formerly managed by Ivy Tech and had been
returned to the city. He commented on the appointments to a 501c3 and said that
compromise was necessary or the proposal would fail.
Rollo was mystified by the mayor's veto and indication to proceed with a 501c3
resulting in the county's rescinding of the FBT. He understood that the expansion
would make the Convention Center a civic center. He would support Resolution 22-
20.
The motion to adopt Resolution 22-20 received a roll call vote of Ayes: 8, Nays: 1 Vote to adopt
(Rosenbarger), Abstain: 0. Resolution 22-20
[8:32pm]
Dave Askins stated that the temperature in the room was eighty degrees: ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
COMMENT [8:32pm]
Dave Burnworth expressed interest in Volan's vote against Rollo for
parliamentarian.
Lucas reviewed the upcoming council schedule. COUNCIL SCHEDULE
[8:32pm]
Sgambelluri adjourned the meeting without objection. ADJOURNMENT
[8:34pm]
APPROVED by the Common Council of the City of Bloomington, Monroe County, Indiana upon this
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Agenda
CITY OF AGENDA AND NOTICE:
ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
BLOOMINGTON WEDNESDAY | 6:30 PM
11 JANUARY 2023
COMMON COUNCIL
Council Chambers (#115), Showers Building, 401 N. Morton Street
The meeting may also be accessed at the following link:
https://bloomington.zoom.us/j/86583313060?pwd=Ryt1ZTVocVhidUpTdnJOVzNwVW5QZz09
I. ROLL CALL
II. AGENDA SUMMATION
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: None
IV. REPORTS (A maximum of twenty minutes is set aside for each part of this section.)
A. Councilmembers
B. The Mayor and City Offices
i. Introduction of Deputy Mayor Mary Catherine Carmichael
ii. Report from Housing and Neighborhood Development Director John Zody re: Public
Input on use of HOME/ARPA Funding
C. Council Committees
D. Public *
V. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
(Once the Council elects its officers, the newly-elected President will assign Councilmembers their seats
at the dais.)
VI. ASSIGNMENTS TO COUNCIL COMMITTEES
(If prepared to do so, the President may, at this time, announce assignments of Councilmembers to
Council committees.)
VII. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
(The Council may take this opportunity to appoint Councilmembers to serve on various boards and
commissions. If any nominations are ready, the Council may also consider the appointment of members
of the public to serve on boards and commissions, as well.)
(over)
*Members of the public may speak on matters of community concern not listed on the agenda at one of the two
public comment opportunities. Citizens may speak at one of these periods, but not both. Speakers are allowed five
minutes; this time allotment may be reduced by the presiding officer if numerous people wish to speak.
To request an accommodation or for inquiries about accessibility, please call (812) 349-3409 or e-mail
council@bloomington.in.gov.
Revised: January 10, 2023
VIII. LEGISLATION FOR SECOND READINGS AND RESOLUTIONS
A. Resolution 22-20 – A Resolution Responding to Monroe County Board of Commissioners
Ordinance 2022-46
Committee Recommendation: None
Council Action (12/14/22): Passed: 8-1-0
Mayoral Veto (12/23/22)
Council Action Subsequent to Mayoral Veto (1/11/23): Pending
IX. ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT *
(A maximum of twenty-five minutes is set aside for this section.)
X. COUNCIL SCHEDULE
XI. ADJOURNMENT
*Members of the public may speak on matters of community concern not listed on the agenda at one of the two
public comment opportunities. Citizens may speak at one of these periods, but not both. Speakers are allowed five
minutes; this time allotment may be reduced by the presiding officer if numerous people wish to speak.
To request an accommodation or for inquiries about accessibility, please call (812) 349-3409 or e-mail
council@bloomington.in.gov.
Revised: January 10, 2023
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