Historic Landmark Commission

MINUTES HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING BOERNE CITY HALL RONALD C. BOWMAN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 447 North Main Street Tuesday, March 07, 2023 - 5:30 PM Minutes of the Historic Landmark Commission Meeting of March 07, 2023, at 5:30 p.m. Present: 5 - Chairman Ben Adam, Commissioner Justin Boerner, Commissioner Cesar Hance,Commissioner Cali Redd, Commissioner Sally Pena Absent: 2 - Commissioner Michael Nichols, Commissioner Patti Mainz Staff Present: Laura Haning, Sara Bennett, Krystal Brown, Ariel Morin, Lesley Gastelum Recognized/ Registered Guests: Lisa Lunsford, Karen Mathison, Debra Spachek EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE: THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MAY, AS PERMITTED BY LAW, ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME TO DISCUSS ANY MATTER LISTED BELOW AS AUTHORIZED BY GOVERNMENT CODE §551.071 (CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY) 1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM Chairman Adam called the Historic Landmark Commission to order at 5:31 p.m. 2. CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATION No conflicts were declared. 3. PUBLIC COMMENTS: This is the opportunity for visitors and guests to address the Historic Landmark Commission on any issue. The Historic Landmark Commission may not discuss any presented issue, nor may any action be taken on any issue at this time. (Attorney General opinion – JC-0169) City of Boerne Page 1 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 No comments were received. 4. CONSENT AGENDA: All items listed below within the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the Historic Landmark Commission and may be enacted with one motion. There will be no separate discussion of items unless a Commission Member or citizen so requests, in which event the item may be moved to the general order of business and considered in its normal sequence. 4.A. 2023-249 THE MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 23, 2023. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, THAT THIS MINUTES BE APPROVED THE MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 23, 2023.. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 5. REGULAR AGENDA: 5.A. 2023-251 CONSIDER THE DEMOLITION REQUEST FOR A STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 320 NORTH ESSER ROAD (KAD 14132) (HOWARD KLEIN JR.). I. STAFF PRESENTATION II. PUBLIC HEARING III. MAKE RECOMMENDATION Ms. Ariel Morin, City Planner I, presented the request for the demolition of a structure located at 320 N Esser Rd. Chairman Adam opened the public hearing at 5:35 p.m. City of Boerne Page 2 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 Chairman Adam closed the public hearing at 5:35 p.m. Commissioner Boerner shared his findings from the site visit. Commissioner Pena shared her findings from the site visit. Chairman Adam shared his findings from the site visit. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION REQUEST FOR A STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 320 NORTH ESSER ROAD (KAD 14132) (HOWARD KLEIN JR.).THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY CHAIRMAN PENA, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER THE DEMOLITION REQUEST FOR A STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 320 NORTH ESSER ROAD (KAD 14132) (HOWARD KLEIN JR.). I. STAFF PRESENTATION II. PUBLIC HEARING III. MAKE RECOMMENDATION. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 6. 2023-252 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN AWNING SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for an awning sign located at 195 South Main Street. Commissioner Boerner asked for the clearance height and material of City of Boerne Page 3 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 the sign. Ms. Tabor, the applicant, agreed to change sign materials to max metal instead of wood. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN AWNING SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON). WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE SIGN MATERIAL BE CHANGED TO METAL. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN AWNING SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 7. 2023-253 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A PROJECTING SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a projecting sign located at 195 South Main Street. Ms. Tabor, the applicant, also agreed to change the material of this sign to max metal. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A PROJECTING SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH City of Boerne Page 4 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON). WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE SIGN MATERIAL BE CHANGED TO MAX-METAL. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A PROJECTING SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 8. 2023-254 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a wall sign located at 195 South Main Street. Chairman Adam asked if the letters for the wall sign were individual or on a board. The Commission discussed if the wings of the sign would be attached or painted to the wall of the building. Ms. Tabor, the applicant, gave an explanation of the sign details. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER REDD, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONE R PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: City of Boerne Page 5 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 YEA: 3- COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 1- COMMISSIONER BOERNER APPROVED: 3-1 A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER REDD, SECONDED BY CHAIRMAN PENA, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 195 SOUTH MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 9. 2023-255 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR COLOR TO BE USED ON THE EXISTING TRIM LOCATED AT 195 S. MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for color to be used on the existing trim located at 195 South Main Street. Ms. Tabor, the applicant, clarified what is going to be painted. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR COLOR TO BE USED ON THE EXISTING TRIM LOCATED AT 195 S. MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON). THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0- APPROVED: 4-0 City of Boerne Page 6 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR COLOR TO BE USED ON THE EXISTING TRIM LOCATED AT 195 S. MAIN STREET (KAD 26011) (THE SANCTUARY/KAREN MATHISON).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 10. 2023-256 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET STE H (KAD 26005) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a wall sign located at 233 South Main Street Suite H. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET SUITE H (KAD 26005) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK). THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0- APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET STE H (KAD 26005) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 11. 2023-257 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A COMMERCIAL COMPLEX SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET SUITE H (KAD 26004) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a City of Boerne Page 7 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 commercial complex sign located at 233 South Main Street Suite H. Commissioner Boerner questioned the material of the sign. Ms. Spachek, the applicant, agreed to change the material of the sign to max metal. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A COMMERCIAL COMPLEX SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET SUITE H (KAD 26004) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK). WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE SIGN MATERIAL BE CHANGED TO MAX-METAL. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0- APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY CHAIRMAN PENA, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A COMMERCIAL COMPLEX SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET SUITE H (KAD 26004) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 12. 2023-258 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A ROOF SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET STE H (KAD 26005) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a roof sign located at 233 South Main Street Suite H. Discussion ensued regarding roof signs and how this one would be attached. City of Boerne Page 8 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A ROOF SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET SUITE H (KAD 26005) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK). WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF TURNED DOWN BY THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, IT WILL BE APPROVED AS A MOUNTED SIGN. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0- APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY CHAIRMAN PENA, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A ROOF SIGN LOCATED AT 233 SOUTH MAIN STREET STE H (KAD 26005) (LONESTAR COUNTRY CREATIONS/DEBRA SPACHEK).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 13. 2023-259 CONSIDER A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A FENCE SIGN LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (KAD 19905) (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a building permit for a fence located at 248 North Main Street. Ms. Sara Bennett clarified the building permit is for a fence, not a fence sign. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO APPROVE A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A FENCE LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (KAD 19905) (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD). THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: City of Boerne Page 9 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0- APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A FENCE SIGN LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (KAD 19905) (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 14. 2023-260 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FENCE COLOR LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (KAD 19905) (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a fence color located at 248 North Main Street. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FENCE COLOR LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (KAD 19905) (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD).THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0- APPROVED: 4-0 City of Boerne Page 10 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 A MOTION WAS MADE BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, SECONDED BY CHAIRMAN PENA, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FENCE COLOR LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (KAD 19905) (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 15. 2023-261 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A POST AND PANEL SIGN LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD). Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II, presented the request for a post and panel sign located at 248 North Main Street. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A POST AND PANEL SIGN LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD). THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER HANCE, COMMISSIONER REDD, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 0- APPROVED: 4-0 A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR BOERNER, THAT THIS MISC BE APPROVED CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A POST AND PANEL SIGN LOCATED AT 248 NORTH MAIN STREET (DIENGER TRADING COMPANY/LISA LUNSFORD).. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 16. COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION/LEGAL COUNSEL/STAFF – No discussion or action may take place. No comments were received. 17. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Adam adjourned the Historic Landmark Commission at 6:13 City of Boerne Page 11 Printed on 7/7/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes March 7, 2023 p.m. _______________________________ Chairman CERTIFICATION I hereby certify that the above notice of meeting was posted on the 3rd day of March, 2023 at 5:00 p.m. ______________________________ Secretary NOTICE OF ASSISTANCE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING The City Hall Complex is wheelchair accessible. Access to the building and special parking is available at the front entrance of the building. Requests for special services must be received forty-eight (48) hours prior to the meeting time by calling the by calling the Planning and Community Development Office at 830-249-9511. Pursuant to Section 30.06 Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun. Pursuant to section 30.07 Penal Code (trespass by license holder with an openly carried handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a handgun that is carried openly. City of Boerne Page 12 Printed on 7/7/2023