Historic Landmark Commission

MINUTES HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING BOERNE CITY HALL RONALD C. BOWMAN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 447 North Main Street Tuesday, September 5, 2023 - 5:30 PM Minutes of the Historic Landmark Commission Meeting of September 5, 2023, at 5:30 p.m. Present: 4- Chairman Justin Boerner, Commissioner Sally Pena, Commissioner Caesar Hance, Commissioner Michael Nichols Absent: 3- Commissioner Patti Mainz, Commissioner Lynnese Graves, Commissioner Julia Murphy Staff Present: Nathan Crane, Sara Serra-Bennett, Heather Wood, Lesley Gastelum Recognized/Registered Guests: Brandon Phillips, Ashlee Pfeiffer, Matt Mattingly, Patti Roetman, Rick Pfeiffer, Candace Affeldt, Jeremy Affeldt THE CITY OF BOERNE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION RESERVES THE RIGHT TO ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS LISTED BELOW, AS AUTHORIZED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE §551.071 (CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY). 1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM Chairman Boerner called the Historic Landmark Commission to order at 5:30 p.m. 2. CONFLICTS OF INTEREST There were no conflicts. 3. PUBLIC COMMENTS: This is the opportunity for visitors and guests to address the Historic Landmark Commission on any issue. The Historic Landmark Commission may not discuss any presented issue, nor may any action be taken on any issue at this time. (Attorney General opinion – JC-0169) City of Boerne Page 1 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 Chairman Boerner opened public comments at 5:31 p.m. No comments were received. Chairman Boerner closed public comments at 5:31 p.m. 4. CONSENT AGENDA A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 4.A. 2023-641 THE MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 1, 2023. 5. REGULAR AGENDA 5.A. 2023-642 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A POLE SIGN LOCATED AT 103 NORTH SAUNDERS STREET (KENDALL COUNTY ABSTRACT COMPANY) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed pole sign. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A POLE SIGN LOCATED AT 103 NORTH SAUNDERS STREET (KENDALL COUNTY ABSTRACT COMPANY). THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER HANCE City of Boerne Page 2 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 5.B. 2023-643 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FENCE LOCATED AT 106 EAST THEISSEN STREET (PATRICIA ROETMAN) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed fence. Commission discussion ensued regarding the existing fence, concerns with the proposed 6ft. height of the fence along the front of the proposed area most visible from Main Street, and the possibility of using different materials. Applicant, Ms. Patricia Roetman, stated that she would like the proposed fence to have some privacy and to protect her property. She clarified that the old temporary fence will be removed, she is open to other materials being used, and is open to having a lower profile fence in the front section as discussed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FENCE LOCATED AT 106 EAST THEISSEN STREET (PATRICIA ROETMAN) WITH THE FOLLOWING CAVEATS: * Front section of the fence from the chimney to existing barn structure to be constructed as 1-inch x 3-inch picket style fence with a gap between boards, with a maximum height of 4 ft, and painted white or black. * Back section of the fence from the barn structure to the back northeast corner was approved with a 6 ft maximum height (corrugated metal in vertical direction). THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: City of Boerne Page 3 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 5.C. 2023-644 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 152 SOUTH MAIN STREET (HEY LOVE) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed wall sign. Applicant, Mr. Matt Mattingly with Signarama, explained that the sign is made of 1/2 inch acrylic and will weather much better than vinyl. The sign will be mounted to studs that are secured on the back; fasteners will go through the material and will not be visible. Commissioner Nichols requested to have the corners clipped to match the shape of the sign frame. Mr. Mattingly said he would have to get approval from customer to make the proposed modification to the corners. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 152 SOUTH MAIN STREET (HEY LOVE) WITH THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 City of Boerne Page 4 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 5.D. 2023-645 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A PROJECTING SIGN LOCATED AT 189 SOUTH MAIN STREET (BEFORE YOUR EYES INTERIORS) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed projecting sign. Commission discussion ensued regarding the material being used, questions about colors/missing color samples, and concerns with the logo detail that protrudes from the sign. Representative Mr. Matthew Mattingly clarified that the sign is all one piece, on one sheet of vinyl, the board will be cut around the logo detail, and will be hung higher than other hanging signs in the area. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER PENA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BOERNER, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A PROJECTING SIGN LOCATED AT 189 SOUTH MAIN STREET (BEFORE YOUR EYES INTERIORS). THE MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 2- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA NAY: 2- COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE No action taken. It was a tie vote, and the motion failed. 5.E. 2023-646 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 189 SOUTH MAIN STREET (BEFORE YOUR EYES INTERIORS) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed wall sign. The Commission provided some feedback for the applicant - the chandelier logo and colors are acceptable, however the logo should not extend beyond the sign and should be condensed to remain within the City of Boerne Page 5 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 physical boundary of the sign itself and not extend beyond the sign. Also, applicant should bring back all color samples when item comes back before the Commission. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, TO DENY A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A WALL SIGN LOCATED AT 189 SOUTH MAIN STREET (BEFORE YOUR EYES INTERIORS). THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 DENIED: 4-0 5.F. 2023-647 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A HANGING SIGN LOCATED AT 470 SOUTH MAIN STREET (GUNPOWDER & CABERNET) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the hanging wall sign. Owner, Mrs. Candace Affeldt, explained that the proposed sign is the exact same, with new business name, as a previously approved sign from her previous business that was at the same location; brackets are already in place from previous sign. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A HANGING SIGN LOCATED AT 470 SOUTH MAIN STREET (GUNPOWDER & CABERNET) WITH THE CAVEAT TO REMOVE "SACH'S GARAGE EST. 1916" FROM THE SIGN. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE City of Boerne Page 6 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 5.G. 2023-648 CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FOR 325 SOUTH MAIN STREET (FREE ROAM BREWERY) - A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A STRUCTURE FACING MAIN STREET - A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE MATERIAL Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed structure. Business owners, Mr. Jeremy Affeldt and Mr. Brandon Phillips, made themselves available for questions. The commission did not have questions, but thanked the owners for working with the Commission regarding requested changes to originally proposed structure. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING FOR 325 SOUTH MAIN STREET (FREE ROAM BREWERY): - A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A STRUCTURE FACING MAIN STREET - A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE MATERIAL THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 5.H. 2023-649 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN POLE SIGN AT 211 SOUTH MAIN STREET (VALERO) City of Boerne Page 7 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed pole sign and expressed some concerns with the lighting of the signs complying with dark sky regulations; the city will monitor to confirm compliance. Commissioner Nichols had a questions regarding the dimension of the sign compared to the existing sign, the numbers on the sign, and the color of the pole; Ms. Serra-Bennett confirmed that the letters on the sign will not be electronic and will be manually changed out. They will repaint the pole the same light grey as what is existing as maintenance. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN POLE SIGN AT 211 SOUTH MAIN STREET (VALERO) AS PRESENTED. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 5.I. 2023-650 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FASCIA SIGN AT 211 SOUTH MAIN STREET (VALERO) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed fascia sign. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HANCE, SECONDED BY COM M I S S I O N E R NICHOLS, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A FASCIA SIGN AT 211 SOUTH MAIN STREET (VALERO) WITH THE COLORS AS PRESENTED WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE BLUE LIGHT ON THE FASCIA BE REMOVED. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, City of Boerne Page 8 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 5.J. 2023-651 CONSIDER A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SPANDREL SIGN AT 211 SOUTH MAIN STREET (VALERO) Ms. Sara Serra-Bennett, City Planner II., presented the proposed gas pump sign and confirmed that the existing lights from under the canopy will remain, but no lights are proposed from the pumps themselves. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PENA, TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SPANDREL SIGN AT 211 SOUTH MAIN STREET (VALERO) WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE COLUMN REMAINS SQUARE. THE MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YEA: 4- COMMISSIONER BOERNER, COMMISSIONER PENA, COMMISSIONER NICHOLS, COMMISSIONER HANCE NAY: 0 APPROVED: 4-0 6. COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION/LEGAL COUNSEL/STAFF – No discussion or action may take place. The Commission commented on recent text message correspondence with staff; they like having text reminders as an easy way of communicating. 7. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Boerner adjourned the Historic Landmark Commission at 6:30 p.m. City of Boerne Page 9 Printed on 10/4/2023 Historic Landmark Commission Official Meeting Minutes September 5, 2023 Approve: _______________________________ Chairman Attest: ______________________________ Secretary City of Boerne Page 10 Printed on 10/4/2023