Zoning Board of Adjustment and Appeals
Regular MeetingBoerne, TX · October 19, 2016
Minutes
MINUTES
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
124 Old San Antonio Road
Boerne, TX 78006
Wednesday, October 19, 2016 – 5:30 p.m.
Minutes from the Board of Adjustment and Appeals meeting, Wednesday, October 19,
2016, 5:30 p.m.
Regular Board Members Present: Bill Kessler-Chair, Jim Terrian-Secretary, Tom Harris,
Jon Paul Bergman, Chris Taylor, and Cayman Gentry.
City Staff Present: Michael Mann-Public Works Director, Andrea Rivera-Assistant to the
Public Works Director, Sheldon Cravey-Information Technology.
Visitors Present: Howard Haworth, Justin Harper, and Jodi Harper.
approved
1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM
The meeting was called to order at 5:35 p.m. by Chair Kessler.
2. APPROVE MINUTES OF JUNE 15, 2016
A motion was made by Secretary Terrian , seconded by Member Harris, that the minutes
of June 15, 2016 meeting be approved as written. The motion carried. All in favor.
3. DESIGNATE VOTING MEMBERS
Four regular members were designated to vote with Alternate Member Jon Paul
Bergman designated by Chair Kessler as the fifth voting member.
4. CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATION
Chair Kessler asked if there were any conflicts of interest to declare. There were none.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Receive comments on Variance No. 16-05, Lot 1, Serenity Oaks
Estates (106 Kitty Kat Lane).
6. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/ACTION
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The hearing opened at 5:36 p.m. Justin & Jodi Harper, the owners of the property,
approached the Board. Mr. Harper began by explaining that the tree house is elevated in
same area as a storage unit once sat on the property when they bought it. He said it sits
3.5 feet back from the fence. He said this is a temporary tree house. Member Terrian
asked how did they know they needed a setback from the fence? Mr. Harper said that he
was told that a 5 foot setback was the rule. Mr. Harper begged the question why now is
the tree house noticed and a problem when before with the shed it was never noticed.
Secretary Terrian said the City must maintain their codes and any changes to the
property you must get a permit. Mr. Harper said he didn't know the rules. Mr. Harper also
mentioned trees that need to be trimmed when he moved into his property and he was
told that the City doesn't own trees and he was responsible for trimming them himself. Mr.
Harper went on to explain that they are ignorant owners and didn't know the rules and now
are asking for a variance. Secretary Terrian said our responsibility is to find a hardship.
Mr. Harper said the existing structure was not a problem. Member Bergman said there
are certain rules that are set and understands there was a structure there at one time. He
said that they had a non conforming structure when the ordinance may not have been in
effect. Member Bergman also asked if the treehouse was the same structure. Mrs Harper
said that it has the same footprint. She said there is only one place in yard where the tree
house works. Secretary Terrian asked if it was built by them. Mr. Harper said yes they
built it and moved it so it wouldn't invade the neighbor's property. Member Bergman
asked if they could move it another two feet. Mrs. Harper said the posts are cemented in.
Member Bergman said the main reason for the ordinance is for safety. Mike Mann said
there was a time when a playhouse didn't need a permit. Mrs. Harper said it was built in
May. Mike Mann said it was discussed in the staff variance meeting and the issue is not
whether or not it was permitted, but that it was in the setback.
Chair Kessler said if a permit was required they may have known to not build in setback.
Mr. Harper asked about permitting around town and they said they didn't need a permit
because it wasn't a permanent structure. He said he didn't feel the Code Enforcement
office explained clearly his questions regarding permanent structures and permitting.
Member Harris asked about the comments at the staff variance. Mike Mann explained
three were in favor and three opposed. The three that opposed couldn't find a hardship.
Member Taylor asked if there are any height limitations. Mike Mann answered no. Mike
Mann said anything permanently attached to the ground is a permanent structure. Chair
Kessler said you are the one that created the problem and you didn't check first. Chair
Kessler said you could have complied with the ordinance and placed the structure back
five feet and nothing on their property prevents them from doing that. He said we take
these variances on a case by case basis and there are guidlines we have to follow. He
said they are not being singled out. Chair Kessler further explained that the rules are
written for a reason and we try to comply with them. In respect to hardship, why should we
grant this? Mrs. Harper said that they are building a tree house and wanted it to be in the
trees. Mr. Harper said the tree house is attached to the tree with bolts. He also said that
they were uneducated in this process and said they moved it out of the location that it
originally started in. Mr. Harper said his attempt was to make it eye appealing, however
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they made a mistake. He also reiterated that there was a structure there before so he
didn't think it would be an issue.
Howard Haworth, a neighbor of the Harper's approached the Board and said the
Harper's asked if it was ok to place the structure in its current location. He said they were
neighborly. He said he can see it from his house. Mr. Haworth mentioned he has a six by
eight foot playhouse on his property as well and he will be back next month for a variance.
He said he and the Harper's worked together and on thier behalf, he feels they did
everything right. He said he received a letter from Code Enforcement and he questions
when was the permit required from the letter he received? He said if he knew there
needed to be a permit, he would have gotten one. Mr. Haworth approached the board
with the notification letter he received from Code Enforcement. He believes according to
the size of the playhouse, a permit isn't required. Mike Mann explained that things not
allowed in a setback may or may not be required to have a permit. Member Bergman
said that the point of the structure being there before, there are ways to replace a
structure, you have a right to maintain it, or you can change it as long as it fits standards
of City ordinance. Chair Kessler said if there is no permit needed before it doesn't
excuse you from encroaching on the setback. Member Bergman said if you have a
nonconforming structure it can be changed. Chair Kessler asked if anything needed to be
added before closing the hearing. Mr. Harper mentioned that he did not receive a letter
from Code Enforcement as did his neighbor Mr. Haworth, just a card on his door. Chair
Kessler said out of the public responses five were in favor and one was opposed. The
hearing closed at 6:06 p.m.
Consider Variance No. 16-05: A request from Jodi & Justin Harper
regarding a variance to the City of Boerne Zoning Ordinance to
allow for a 2-foot encroachment into the required 5-foot side yard
setback for Lot 1, Serenity Oaks Estates (106 Kitt Kat Lane).
Secretary Terrian said to build a structure doesn't change the fact that we need the five
foot setback. Can we create a motion that this structure cannot be changed in any way or
be temporary? Mike Mann said there is no temporary variance but you can put conditions
on it. Member Harris said if you create a hardship, can you change the law? He said we
can't do that. Member Taylor asked do they need a variance since the permiting rule
changed in June? He understands fire issue with it being close to fence line and now it is
noticed because it sits up high. Mike Mann said a setback violation exists. Secretary
Terrian said even a temporary structure can't be in the setback. Member Harris said
storage can't be in the setback not even four years ago. Several neighbors had to move
structures. Mike Mann offered to read definition of a structure. Member Bergman asked
definition of a playhouse. Mike Mann said playhouse has different rules or unique to
playhouse. Chair Kessler said it can't be in setback. Member Bergman said we are
talking about two different things. We already have an ordinance with what you can or
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cannot do.
Chair Kessler said we know the requirements of the setback. If everyone starts doing this
on their street then you lose the rule. Member Bergman said they are not setting a
precedence they are trying to follow an interpretation of the ordinance. Is there a
grandfather clause? Secretary Terrian said we are blurring the lines with the new
permitting rules, it still doesn't change the fact that we have an ordinance in place. If City
officials noticed the shed, it would be written up as well and told to get a variance. You
don't want to create a hardship when you build something. Secretary Terrian said from
looking at the pictures, what can be done? Can you add beams under the structure and
shift it? Member Harris asked if the posts are in the ground? Mr. Harper said he knows
that two are in the ground for sure. Mr. Harper asked if everything needs to be moved.
Secretary Terrian said everything. Mr. Harper asked, is the rule anything encroaching on
the ground, or in the air? Mike Mann said any part of any structure must not encroach on
the setback. Mrs. Harper approached the Board with a picture. Chair Kessler asked for
anymore questions. Member Harris moves to deny, Member Bergman seconds. Five
were in favor to deny. Motion carried to deny.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting was adjourned at 6:24 p.m.
_______________________________
Chair
_______________________________
Secretary
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Agenda
AGENDA
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
124 Old San Antonio Road
Boerne, TX 78006
Wednesday, October 19, 2016 – 5:30 p.m.
1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM
2. APPROVE MINUTES OF JUNE 15, 2016
3. DESIGNATE VOTING MEMBERS
4. CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATION
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2016-952 Receive comments on Variance No. 16-05, Lot 1, Serenity Oaks
Estates (106 Kitty Kat Lane).
6. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/ACTION
2016-953 Consider Variance No. 16-05: A request from Jodi & Justin
Harper regarding a variance to the City of Boerne Zoning
Ordinance to allow for a 2-foot encroachment into the required
5-foot side yard setback for Lot 1, Serenity Oaks Estates (106
Kitt Kat Lane).
7. ADJOURNMENT
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s/s Michael G. Mann
Administrative Officer
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the above notice of meeting was posted on the 14th day of
October at 5:00 p.m.
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s/s Andrea Rivera
Recording Secretary
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east (front) entrance to the building. Requests for special services must be received
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(handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun.
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