Zoning Board of Adjustment and Appeals
Regular MeetingBoerne, TX · November 20, 2019
Minutes
MINUTES
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
124 Old San Antonio Road
Boerne, TX 78006
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 – 5:30 p.m.
Board Members Present: Scott Lowry-Chair, Jim Terrian-Vice-Chair, Rich
McCormick-Secretary, Alan Thompson & Matthew Janysek
Staff Present: Michael Mann, Andrea Snouffer, Betty Kwasneski, Barret Squires
1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM
Meeting was called to order at 5:36 p.m.
2. APPROVE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 16, 2019
Member Thompson moved to approve the minutes, Member Janysek
seconded. All were in favor to approve the minutes.
4. CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATION
There were none.
3. DESIGNATE VOTING MEMBERS
Chair Lowry designated all five members that were present to vote.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Receive comments on Variance No. 19-14, Lot 5, Block 4, Eastland
Terrace (204 Shadywood).
Betty Kwasenski with Code Enforcement approached to represent the
City. The carport permit was reviewed by Betty and she explained
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and annotated on the permit the required setbacks. She said they
poured the driveway after a stop work sign was posted. She informed
Mr. Hill he needed a variance. Member Janysek asked if they pulled a
permit. Betty said in the beginning they did not. We had to inform
them. Mr. Hill told Betty he was fine with the 25' setback on the side.
Member Janysek asked if they provided a plan for the permit. Betty
said the plan is vague, but I marked the 25' setback on the property
line and to stay within the setbacks from property line. Member
Thompson asked if she believed it was clear that the setbacks were
communicated. Betty said we expect them to put in right place after
being issued the permit. Member Thompson asked in her opinion what
would the remedy be for the carport. Betty said to move the carport.
He also asked if they are they permitted to have flat work. Betty said
yes with a ROW permit. Member McCormick asked if the setbacks
were different in the past for this street. Betty said all the houses are
25' plus off the street. Denis & Connie Hill approached. Connie said it
wasn't their attention to break any rules and that they applied for
permits for all the work they were doing. We didn't know what the
setbacks were prior to starting work. The structure went up in a day.
We thought the permit for the driveway covered everything. Connie
said we understood that it was 25' from the curb. It is a 16' ROW.
There are other houses with side driveways down the street. Denis
said we submitted application and two weeks went by and no permit
and then we signed a contract on Sep 12th. Submitted a second one
and two or three more weeks past. He calls Betty again and she said
25' from the street is what I heard and wrote. I received one email
from her giving the setbacks that is the only thing I got in writing. We
removed the front driveway and regardless if we move the carport we
still need the driveway to park our cars. Why would the code be
changed over the years. Denis asked to approach with additional
photos of property. He showed pictures of other house. He said we
would be looking at our carport if we were to move it 25' from
property line. It would put it in the middle of the backyard. Member
Thompson asked about the age of the neighborhood. Mike Mann said
probably early seventies. Vice Chair Terrian asked about the drawing
in the application confirming where the carport and driveway is
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located. Denis said we misunderstood between curb line and property
line. Member Janysek asked if contractor knew the setbacks. Denis
told contractor what the setback are. Betty wrote the property line
setback on the second permit application. They used the houses
around them to confirm their decision. Member Thompson asked
about their hardship. Connie explained the cost to take the structure
down. Denis explained that it wouldn't look right, it would stand out in
the neighborhood as well as financial to take down. Denis read an
email communication between Rebecca in Planning and Betty in CE.
The setbacks were explained in the email but they didn't mention
whether it was from the property line or the street. Member
Thompson asked if they knew the appropriate setbacks would they
build the structure. Denis said he wasn't sure but that they do need a
carport. Mike Mann explained setbacks is the distance between the
property line and the structure. Mike asked if flatwork is allowed in
the setback area. Betty said yes. Betty said yes. Member McCormick
asked if they had any comments from the neighbors regarding the
structure. Denis and Connie mentioned a lot of their neighbors loved
it. Chair Lowry mentioned three responses came in my mail, email or
drop off and all three were opposed. Member Thompson asked about
the Staff's response. Mike Mann explained all were opposed due to a
lack of hardship.
Receive comments on Variance No. 19-15, Lot 5, Block 4, Eastland
Terrace (204 Shadywood).
Open public hearing at 6:17. Betty said it is the same timeline as the
side setback. The rear setback is cloudy and we measured from the
base of the chain link fence to the edge of the bump out of the
carport. We posted a stop work order. Vice Chair Terrian asked if
any professional survey was done. Betty said no. So assumptions
were made that the chain link fence was on the property line. Betty
said yes we used the survey that Mr. Hill provided. Member
Thompson asked what is a bump out? Betty said they bumped out
with concrete and structure. It was not in their original plans. Denis
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explained this bump out was for a trash can. Denis said the
measurement taken is from where the fence is leaning. He provided
another photo. Member Janysek said if you sell the house you would
need a new survey with what you have added. Vice Chair Terrian said
regardless of what City or contractors say if your survey is wrong the
bank will make you get a variance. Member Thompson said he can
see the pin near the chain link fence on the photo. Member
McCormick said you wouldn't need to have us vote on the second
variance since the first one was denied. You have the option to
withdraw this request. Mike Mann said there would be no harm even
if the board denied and it was found out that they were in compliance.
Denis asked about leaving the flatwork. Betty said she would ask her
supervisor. Member Janysek asked about tabling the decision.
Member Thompson asked if there is a utility easement. Mike said we
aren't aware of one. Chair Lowry said he understood that flatwork is
not a structure. A slab is not a structure. Betty said yes that is
correct. Denis Hill decided to withdraw this request.
6. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/ACTION
Consider Variance No. 19-14: A request from Constance & Denis
Hill, requesting a variance to the City of Boerne Zoning Ordinance
Article 5, Section 4, Table 5-2, to allow for a side setback of 9-feet
2-inches rather than the required 25-foot side setback for Lot 5,
Block 4, Eastland Terrace (204 Shadywood).
Vice Chair Terrian said the property line to street is owned by the City
and has no bearing on setbacks. All setbacks are always from the
property line, never from the curb unless the property line is the curb.
Any builder understands that. Member Janysek said this should be
brought up with the contractor during initial permit application. Most
general contractors would know to discuss the setbacks. Member
McCormick said Zoning has been changed and there are neighbors
within that 25'. Vice Chair Terrian said those other properties have no
bearing on this case. Member Thompson said rules have changed.
Mike Mann said not sure when it was changed. Vice Chair Terrian
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said the 25' setback would be needed on a corner lot in case
someone would build and orient the building to face the opposite
street. Member Thompson moved to deny, Vice CHair Terrian
seconded. All were in favor to deny the variance 5-0.
Consider Variance No. 19-15: A request from Constance & Denis
Hill, requesting a variance to the City of Boerne Zoning Ordinance
Article 5, Section 4, Table 5-2, to allow for a rear setback of 4-feet
6-inches rather than the required 5-foot rear setback for Lot 5,
Block 4, Eastland Terrace (204 Shadywood).
Member Janysek said we could table it. Chair Lowry said we can
table for further information or they can withdraw. Denis Hill said they
are going to withdraw their request. No action needed by the board.
Variance 19-15 withdrawn.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting was adjourned at 6:38 p.m.
_______________________________
Chair
_______________________________
Secretary
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Agenda
AGENDA
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS MEETING
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
124 Old San Antonio Road
Boerne, TX 78006
Wednesday, November 20, 2019 – 5:30 p.m.
1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM
2. APPROVE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 16, 2019
4. CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATION
3. DESIGNATE VOTING MEMBERS
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
2019-1099 Receive comments on Variance No. 19-14, Lot 5, Block 4,
Eastland Terrace (204 Shadywood).
2019-1100 Receive comments on Variance No. 19-15, Lot 5, Block 4,
Eastland Terrace (204 Shadywood).
6. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/ACTION
2019-1101 Consider Variance No. 19-14: A request from Constance & Denis
Hill, requesting a variance to the City of Boerne Zoning Ordinance
Article 5, Section 4, Table 5-2, to allow for a side setback of 9-feet
2-inches rather than the required 25-foot side setback for Lot 5,
Block 4, Eastland Terrace (204 Shadywood).
2019-1102 Consider Variance No. 19-15: A request from Constance & Denis
Hill, requesting a variance to the City of Boerne Zoning Ordinance
Article 5, Section 4, Table 5-2, to allow for a rear setback of 4-feet
6-inches rather than the required 5-foot rear setback for Lot 5,
Block 4, Eastland Terrace (204 Shadywood).
7. ADJOURNMENT
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Michael G. Mann
Administrative Officer
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CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the above notice of meeting was posted on the 15th day of
November, 2019 at 5:00 p.m.
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Andrea Snouffer
Recording Secretary
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