Town Council - Ordinance & Rules Committee
Regular MeetingBraintree, MA · May 25, 2022
Minutes
Braintree Town Council MEMBERS
David Ringius, Jr, Chairman
Committee on Ordinance & Rules Shannon Hume, Vice- Chairman
One JFK Memorial Drive Julia Flaherty, Member
Braintree, Massachusetts 02184 Charles Ryan, Member
May 25, 2022
MINUTES
A meeting of the Committee on Ordinance & Rules was held Remote via Zoom Webinar on
Wednesday, May 25, 2022 beginning at 6:00pm.
Chairman Ringius was in the Chair.
Clerk of the Council, Susan Cimino conducted the roll call.
All votes were conducted by Roll Call Vote.
Present: David Ringius, Jr, Chairman
Shannon Hume, Vice-Chairman
Julia Flaherty, Member
Charles Ryan, Member
David Ringius, Jr, Chairman of the Committee on Ordinance & Rules asked for a moment of silence for
our first responders and all those serving home and abroad.
Approval of Minutes
• None
Old Business
• 20 034 Councilor O’Brien: 8.800 Single-Use Plastic Bag Reduction Bylaw or take up any action related
thereto
A Motion was made by Councilor Hume to Take off the TABLE Order 20 034
Motion: by Councilor Hume to Take off the TABLE Order 20 034
Second: by Councilor Ryan
Roll Call Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Hume, Ringius, Ryan), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
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Chairman Ringius stated this proposal from Councilor O’Brien was presented quite a while ago. We
have sent out for opinions from our legislative delegation. Over the years there have been proposals
like this on beacon hill. We did receive an email back from Senator Keenan’s office in terms of where
the State stands on a State-wide ban. We have also reached out to the Chamber. We have received
comments from Chamber Chair Ms. Kroha, Mike Cavanaugh, President of Sustainable Braintree and
Rachel Horak, Sustainable Braintree (Vice-President). We have heard from Crystal Evans, and from
the Commission on Disabilities. We had a conversation on not only how this impacts our
environment but how this impacts some of our folks in town who might be mobility impaired.
Also how the use of certain bags could make it difficult for the elderly to use and any cost associated
could be an undue burden.
Chairman Ringius stated if it is the will of the committee, we will table this. I know there will be
further recommendations from the Commission on Disabilities and Sustainable Braintree. We would
also like to hear from the Chamber and if they would take a side.
Quincy has already banned plastic bags. It would be good to hear from a representative of Quincy or
another town.
We are still waiting for this proposal to be reviewed by our Town Solicitor.
A Motion was made by Councilor Hume to TABLE Order 20 034
Motion: by Councilor Hume to TABLE Order 20 034
Second: by Councilor Ryan
Roll Call Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Hume, Ringius, Ryan), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
New Business
• 006 22 Council President: Town Council Rules or take up any action related thereto
Rule Sixty-One: Adoption of Rules
These rules will be reviewed and adopted within 90 days after the first Council Meeting in every even
year.
This was sent back to O&R after we made a recommendation to the full Council. The request was
made by Councilor O’Brien to have the committee review Town Council Rule #33.
Presently TC Rule #33 reads:
Rule Thirty-Three: Agenda Requests from Other Town Departments
(Existing) All items for the agenda including communications and reports from the Mayor, other Town
Officers and Town Boards shall be submitted to the Town Clerk’s Office and to the Clerk of the Council
no later than 10:00 AM on Thursday preceding the regular Council meeting. A copy of said reports and
agenda shall be delivered to the Council no later than Friday preceding the regular Council meeting. No
measure shall be filed without all supporting documentation. Late items require a two-thirds vote of
the members of the Town Council to be allowed at the Council meeting. Any item authorized for the
agenda must be specified on the agenda, by whom it is introduced.
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(Proposed) All items for the agenda including referrals, communications and reports from the Mayor,
other Town officers and Town boards shall be submitted to the Town Clerk’s office and Clerk of the
Council no later than 10:00 AM on Wednesday preceding the regular Council meeting. No measure
shall be filed without all supporting documentation. In accordance with the Open Meeting Law, a copy
of the reports and agenda shall be delivered to Council members 48 hours in advance of the regular
Council meeting. Late items require a two-thirds vote of Council members to be considered. Any
item authorized for the agenda must be specified on the agenda, by whom it is introduced.
Councilor Ryan stated my concern with this proposed motion is that you know the if something's
coming from the Mayor's office, and they want to refer to the council I think they should be able to do
that and I don't think we need all the information when something gets referred. I think we need all
the information in a timely manner and that's not always when it gets referred. I think if something's
going to a subcommittee you need to have all the information in advanced of the subcommittee
meeting, and if someone is the chair of a subcommittee, they don't need to schedule a meeting until
they have all the information. I think, and Council had a very good point the night this was discussed.
We have an issue before us for the Mass school building authority (MSBA) and you have schedules to
keep, and votes to take, and if we're not going to vote on some because we don't have all the
information, we might be shooting ourselves in the foot. I will certainly be speaking against this at the
full council meeting. I'm not in favor of this. I'm going to vote against it.
Councilor Hume stated there's things that come before us that we have strict deadlines. and when
something's referred we've very rarely gotten all the documents and that's not necessary when it
comes this rule. Subcommittee meetings such as this when this was referred, and as Counselor Ryan
said, as well, if you're the chair of a subcommittee meeting it's within your right to hold a meaning
when you see fit. We're not bound by any calendar to hold ordinance and rules tonight. If Chairman
Ringius didn't have all the information he wanted to hold tonight's meeting it's within his right not to
hold the meeting tonight, he chose this meeting and it worked with everybody else, as every
subcommittee should. I'm not going to be supporting this. I think the rule as it stands is a good rule.
Councilor Flaherty stated I think it's hard to know what constitutes all the information, anyway. How
do you know when you've got enough. There's so much information. We kill so many trees with the
information that we have. I don't see how you could ever make sure that you were living up to the
letter of this proposed change. So I’m not going to support it for that reason either.
Nicole Taub, Chief of Staff stated we have put together over the last couple of years I think is the
system that works it's a system that complies with the open meeting law, as far as providing necessary
information for purposes of the agenda, and in the circumstances where we cannot provide at least a
memorandum detailing the referral. The office does it's best to provide an estimated timeline or
reasonable expectation. for when that information is going to be provided, and it's funny, because, as
we sit here, an item will appear on the agenda Tuesday evening for referral that's not going to have a
memorandum accompanying it, because the trip that I've just taken was somewhat unexpected. The
reality is that sometimes things come up that prevent the provision of kind of that additional paper to
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support the referral on the agenda. What is always met are legal obligations under the open meeting
law in order to provide the public and the Council with at least a description of the item that's being
referred, and it is when that matter is substantively going to be taken up in committee that further
information is always provided in advance of those conversations, and so I appreciate the commentary
from the members of the committee, and I would hope that Clerk Cimino would agree that the system
that we have in place is a system that is working and that we can continue to strive to ensure that the
members of the Council have the necessary information in order to proceed and review materials as
they come down from the mayor's office.
Susan Cimino, Clerk of the Council stated I agree with the Chief of Staff that the Clerk of the Council
and the Chief of Staff have a very open line of communication. She will always try and let me know
when something is in need of being referred, and if something is going to be later, then being included
with the documentation at the full council meeting. So we do have a very open line of communication,
and it seems to work on my end.
Chairman Ringius stated I was actually a little surprised that it that it did get referred back when I
found out although I understand frustration that can arise from feeling that you don't have everything
that you want to make an informed decision I think based on what what every speaker is said
sometimes you can't anticipate. A deadline coming up, I think Counselor ryan hit the nail on the head,
you know, and MSBA has deadlines that are very very fixed, and we don't want to be write a rule that
puts us in a situation where we're now sort of going into our own rules, because we have to hit a
deadline because of you know, when myself and Counselor Hume had from having been on the school
committee. We plethora of deadlines and paperworks that have to be filed in a timely manner to get
certain things done, and we don't want to be in a situation. We're missing out on for example MSBA
money. I would hope that Clerk Cimino and the Chief of Staff would continue to work together to
ensure that we do have everything needed for each meeting that we have items on the agenda, but I
do think that it has worked does work always. Are we sometimes frustrated? Yes, but I think if we just
continue to learn that relationship, and if individual counselors you know, have issues with timing of
things I think hopefully they can bring that to Clerk Cimino’s attention, and she can thus bring that back
to the Chief of Staff and the Mayor's office. I would follow along with what my other members have
expressed, and I would like to keep Rule 33, as it currently exists.
MOTION: to send Town Council Rule #33 back to the full Council with an unfavorable recommendation
to amend.
A Motion was made by Councilor Hume to send Town Council Rule #33 back to the full Council with
an unfavorable recommendation to amend
Motion: by Councilor Hume send Town Council Rule #33 back to the full Council with
an unfavorable recommendation to amend
Second: by Councilor Ryan
Roll Call Vote: For (3 – Flaherty, Hume, Ringius, Ryan), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
Chairman Ringius stated this will be returned to the full Council with an unfavorable recommendation
to amend.
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• 22 037 Council President: Tree Protection Ordinance or take up any action related thereto
(Initial read through)
Chairman Ringius stated this will be an initial read through so we can discuss and see if there are
stakeholders that we would like present at the next meeting on this proposed Ordinance.
President Boericke who brought this forward sends along her apologizes for not being at this initial
meeting but had a family commitment for one of her children at the same day/time.
Melissa SantucciRozzi is reviewing this Ordinance and will be meeting with President Boericke on this.
Legal is reviewing this Ordinance and renumbering accordingly as well.
Chairman Ringius stated everyone should have had the proposed ordinance, along with the President
Boericke’s is letter. Any questions or comments on that?
Chairman Ringius asked for a motion to table Order 22 037 to a future meeting.
A Motion was made by Councilor Hume to TABLE Order 22 037
Motion: by Councilor Hume to TABLE Order 22 037
Second: by Councilor Ryan
Roll Call Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Hume, Ringius, Ryan), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
Chairman Ringius stated we will be taking up the initial discussion related to proposed ordinance, language,
change as to the cultivation in distribution of marijuana in the Town of Braintree.I did want folks to be aware
of that, and we have anticipated that the discussion will probably take at least 2 nights, and we have
scheduled a meeting for June 1st on Zoom. We will schedule additional live meetings for public comment.
It was unanimously voted by Roll Call to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan M. Cimino
Clerk of the Council
Documents provided for Meeting
• 20 034 Councilor O’Brien: 8.800 Single-Use Plastic Bag Reduction Bylaw or take up any action
related thereto
• 006 22 Council President: Town Council Rules or take up any action relative thereto
• 22 037 Council President: Tree Protection Ordinance or take up any action related thereto
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