Town Council - Ways & Means Committee
Regular MeetingBraintree, MA · March 26, 2024
Minutes
Braintree Town Council MEMBERS
Meredith Boericke, Chairwoman
Committee of Ways & Means Peter Morin, Vice-Chairman
One JFK Memorial Drive Joseph Reynolds, Member
Braintree, Massachusetts 02184 Julia Flaherty, Member
Elizabeth Maglio, Member
MINUTES
Tuesday, March 26, 2024
A meeting of the Committee of Ways & Means was held in Johnson Chambers on Tuesday, March 26,
2024 at 6:00pm.
Councilor Boericke was in the Chair.
Clerk of the Council, Susan Cimino conducted the roll call.
Present: Meredith Boericke, Chairwoman
Peter Morin, Vice-Chairman
Julia Flaherty, Member
Elizabeth Maglio, Member
Not Present: Joseph Reynolds, Member
Also Present: Erin V. Joyce, Mayor
Kara L. Nyman, Chief of Staff/Director of Operations
Michael Esmond, Director of Municipal Finance
Melissa SantucciRozzi, Director of Planning & Community Development
John Thompson, Town Engineer/Asst DPW Director
Kristina O'Connell, Treasurer/Collector
Christopher Shipps, Human Resources Director
Approval of Minutes
• February 20, 2024
• March 6, 2024
Motion: by Councilor Morin to approve the Minutes of February 20, 2024, and Minutes of March 6, 2024.
Motion: by Councilor Morin
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (5–Boericke, Flaherty, Maglio, Morin, Reynolds), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
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Old Business
• 23 080 Mayor: CPC Appropriation – Request for Appropriation - Fire Station Historic Restoration or
take up any action relative thereto
Motion: by Councilor Morin to take off the TABLE Order 23 080
Motion: by Councilor Morin to take off the TABLE Order 23 080
Second: by Councilor Maglio
Vote: For (5–Boericke, Flaherty, Maglio, Morin, Reynolds), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
Chairwoman Boericke asked what the thoughts are of the mayor. There has been so much discussion
around the Fire Station.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated clearly this is a project that has been discussed for a long time and for several
years. Internally we are still working on what makes sense as we tie it to the budgeting we are working
on. We are also working on constructing our Capital Plan and where this fits. The project we are seeing if
it works or if it changes. Internally we have not made a definitive decision on yet. We are still working on
it to see what it looks like.
Councilor Maglio stated the idea of eliminating the elevator came up to save money because none of the
firefighters will have a problem going up the stairs. That struck me as a real serious lack of inclusion,
compassion, and understanding for financial savings. When someone can’t access the 2nd floor like a
vendor, cleaner or family member. This was mentioned off-hand.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated as we weigh out parts of this project that is part of the conversation. We do
need to allow appropriate access. It is definitely a priority but no decisions have been made regarding
that.
Councilor Flaherty stated this project has been drawn out. The only portion well flushed out is the
Historical Preservation component. What we do have is a series of Bond Authorizations and a conviction
we do need to do this. The headquarters we have is inadequate for the job we need our firefighters be
able to do safely and well. How we are going to do it has not been well explained to this committee.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated internally we have talked about finishing the path that we were on. If the CPC
portion is allocated we would have our designated funds to put the project out to bid. If it goes out to bid
and comes back too high then what. If it comes back within our bid then it is new money we need to take
out to bond and new debt and new debt service to add to our operational budget. If we even go down
this path, can we afford to go down this path. The alternative is stop and put out to bid to at least get a
number. Do we pull it all back and think of it as a multi-phased project with something we can commit to.
Touring the headquarters, they do need some investments. It would be great to afford this but we are
trying to afford other basic services that we are really struggling to afford. What’s the right decision? And
furthermore, tying it to a Capital Plan. Should we think of it in a different way. We are working on it with
the Fire Chief, Building and Facilities folks, and Finance Director. What is a realistic financially feasible
plan?
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Councilor Morin asked is the primary goal for the living quarters?
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated that is what we are trying to hone into. The living quarters is the number one
priority.
Councilor Morin stated our financial outlook is murky at best. Can we afford new interest and principal
payments for this?
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated that is the real concern. The conversation is can we upgrade the living
quarters in phases. We do not feel competent on understanding the true costs of it. All those questions
need to be answered and tied to the financial needs of the Town. Hopefully in the next couple of months
we will have more clarity.
Michael Esmond, Finance Director stated with the budget it will absolutely be a muti-year projection of
the Town’s revenues. That will allow us to do an affordability analysis and policy. That is a critical element.
Chairwoman Boericke asked if the CPC appropriation has to be authorized to get an idea of what the living
quarters renovation is required to get that quote. Does it make sense to tie up the CPC money of $1.6
million dollars for something that is a maybe.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated we have talked about if this should come off the agenda or not. If you allocate
the CPC we could get the real costs and potentially tie it to a real plan looking forward. We haven’t been
able to definitively decided so we haven’t asked it to be removed from the agenda.
Chairwoman Boericke asked about projects approved that have not happened.
Director SantucciRozzi stated the ADA ramp delay is we are unable to secure qualified proposals.
Director SantucciRozzi stated my recommendation is to table this and for the mayor and the working
group to decide what can we afford.
Peter Morin state the optics of doing this now as we deal with the challenges of operational budgets, it
makes sense to take a breath here and table it.
Councilor Maglio stated when I mentioned the elevator it was with the $14 million rebuild not necessarily
this phased approach. If we do appropriate the money we can put it out to bid to get the numbers? Can
CPC money be un-approved? Director Santucci Rozzi stated yes.
Director SantucciRozzi stated why go out to bid if we don’t have the money but if we want to try to get
the numbers around that project you can go out to bid.
Chairwoman Boericke asked if there is a Motion to TABLE Order 23 080.
Motion by Councilor Morin to TABLE Order 23 080
Motion: by Councilor Morin to TABLE Order 23 080
Motion: by Councilor Morin to TABLE Order 23 080
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4–Boericke, Flaherty, Maglio, Morin), Against (0), Absent (1 - Reynolds), Abstain (0)
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New Business
• 24 013 Mayor: Request for Appropriation - CPC Appropriation—Watson Park, Delorey Field
Rehabilitation Additional Funds or take up any action relative thereto (Public Hearing scheduled for
April 2, 2024)
Chairwoman Boericke asked if anyone would like to speak on Order 24 013.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated the unfortunate reality is when they start off it costs one thing and if the
project gets delayed then costs increase. We have the contractor selected and slated to begin late
summer after the baseball season.
Councilor Flaherty asked about the additional construction needs.
John Thompson, Town Engineer/Asst DPW Director stated it was originally approved based on estimates
prior to the design being completed now including reconstruction of the parking area and adding
irrigation to the field and subdrainage and increased construction costs in general.
Councilor Maglio asked to see a Plan that was provided by Mr. Thompson.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated we need to do our best to communicate the sources of funding. We need to
show a continued investment and effort to see through some of these projects that are well underway.
We will do better. We will have more resources in the future. Being able to speak to it is a challenge we
will all have in the next year or two.
Councilor Morin asked when this project first received funding.
John Thompson stated 1 year ago.
Councilor Morin stated the delay in these projects makes the Town look bad. You need to keep these
things on a path to completion. I will support this. East Braintree kids should have the chance to play on
good fields too.
Chairwoman Boericke stated my frustration with CPC funding is I constantly feel blind-sided. Last March
2023 there was no indication the design was not done. This is the third project we have had a come-back
to the Council saying well we didn’t have all the prices. If you don’t have all the prices, let us know. I
would hope, Mayor Joyce, that you have a strategy for CPC funding.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated we have been in a deficit for a number of years. The CPC funds have been a
way to make capital investments and it lacked a very strategic capital plan. A lot of these projects take
multiple funding sources. We are working on a strategic plan.
Director SantucciRozzi stated we can expect less than 20% from the state for CPC. I am forecasting the
match from the state as $200,000 for next year.
Councilor Maglio asked about plantings and the trees along the top part where the fencing is. Are the
trees going to be vision blockers or noise blockers?
Director SantucciRozzi stated the species are noted on the Plan I believe.
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John Thompson stated I can try to get you more information on that.
Chairwoman Boericke asked if there is a Motion for Order 24 013.
Motion read by Councilor Morin for favorable recommendation to the full Council.
Motion: In accordance with the provisions of MGL c.44B, and with the recommendation of the
Community Preservation Committee, the amount of $250,000.00 to be expended from the Open Space
and Recreation Fund and $135,000.00 to be expended from the Undesignated Fund for the Watson Park -
Delorey Field Rehabilitation-Additional Funds (Assessors Map 3001, Block 0, Lot 1B); said funding to be
supervised and expended under the direction of the Community Preservation Committee/Director of
Planning and Community Development.
Motion: by Councilor Morin to approve Order 24 013
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4–Boericke, Flaherty, Maglio, Morin), Against (0), Absent (1 - Reynolds), Abstain (0)
• 24 014 Mayor: Appointment of Christopher Shipps as Human Resources Director or take up any
action relative thereto
Chairwoman Boericke asked if anyone would like to speak on Order 24 014.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated I am pleased to be before you this evening with the appointment of
Christopher Shipps as our new HR Director. Mr. Shipps is coming to us from Brockton. He has a relevant
resume and a lot of professional experience. He is a strong candidate, and I am happy to bring him
forward tonight for you to meet.
Mr. Shipps stated I am happy to be here before you all. I do bring about 20 years of HR experience
including municipal. I look forward to using my skills to help the Town.
Committee members asked questions relating to negotiations and other experiences.
Chairwoman Boericke asked if there is a Motion for Order 24 014.
Motion read by Councilor Morin for favorable recommendation to the full Council.
Motion: Upon the request of her honor, the Mayor, the Town of Braintree, through the Braintree Town
Council, and in accordance with sections 3-3 and 2-10 of the Charter of the Town of Braintree to approve
the appointment of Christopher Shipps as Human Resources Director.
Motion: by Councilor Morin to approve Order 24 014
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4–Boericke, Flaherty, Maglio, Morin), Against (0), Absent (1 - Reynolds), Abstain (0)
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• 24 015 Mayor: Appointment of Kristina O'Connell as Treasurer/Collector or take up any action
relative thereto
Chairwoman Boericke asked if anyone would like to speak on Order 24 015.
Erin V. Joyce, Mayor stated I am pleased to be before you this evening with the appointment of Kristina
O'Connell as Treasurer/Collector. Barbara Walls took another job but is helping with the transition
working as a part-time consulting role for us. Kristina’s background is incredible. She is a Braintree
resident. We are confident she will be able to hit the ground running.
Ms. O’Connell stated when this job became available, I was excited and this is near and dear to my heart. I
am a military veteran. I have 20 years with the Internal Revenue Service and FBI for a few years as well.
Public service is my passion and helping the community in which I live.
Committee members welcomed Ms. O’Connell and stated how impressed by her resume they were.
Councilor Flaherty stated Ms. O’Connell is a District 1 resident. I know she is committed to the Town. I
will be supporting her. She has been a financial contributor to me therefore I will officially abstain from
the vote.
Councilor Morin stated as Treasurer/Collector right now you are starting with a deficit and I would like
you to recognize that and put guardrails up. It will come down to you.
Councilor Morin asked if she had any experience with municipal financial software and Ms. O’Connell
stated no.
Ms. O’Connell stated she recognized her lack of municipal finance experience and there will be some
interplay off the Finance Director to make sure all the bases are covered.
Chairwoman Boericke asked if there is a Motion for Order 24 015.
Motion read by Councilor Morin for favorable recommendation to the full Council.
Motion: Upon the request of her honor, the Mayor, the Town of Braintree, through the Braintree Town
Council, and in accordance with sections 3-3 and 2-10 of the Charter of the Town of Braintree to approve
the appointment of Kristina O'Connell as Treasurer/Collector.
Motion: by Councilor Morin to approve Order 24 015
Second: by Councilor Maglio
Vote: For (3–Boericke, Maglio, Morin), Against (0), Absent (1 - Reynolds), Abstain (1 - Flaherty)
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It was unanimously voted to adjourn the meeting at 7:407p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan M. Cimino
Clerk of the Council
Documents provided for Meeting
• 23 080 Mayor: CPC Appropriation – Request for Appropriation - Fire Station Historic Restoration or
take up any action relative thereto
• 24 013 Mayor: Request for Appropriation - CPC Appropriation—Watson Park, Delorey Field
Rehabilitation Additional Funds or take up any action relative thereto (Public Hearing scheduled for
April 2, 2024)
• 24 014 Mayor: Appointment of Christopher Shipps as Human Resources Director or take up any
action relative thereto
• 24 015 Mayor: Appointment of Kristina O'Connell as Treasurer/Collector or take up any action
relative thereto
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