Zoning Board of Appeals
Regular MeetingBraintree, MA · November 20, 2019
Minutes
Department of Planning & Community Development
Zoning Board of Appeals
1 JFK Memorial Drive
Braintree, MA
www.braintreema.gov
Joseph. C. Sullivan
Mayor
Zoning Board of Appeals (ZBA)
Meeting Minutes
November 20, 2019
IN ATTENDANCE: Stephen Karll, Chair
Michael Ford, Member
Richard McDonough, Member
Gary Walker, Associate
ALSO PRESENT: Christine Stickney, Director-Planning & Community Development
Melissa SantucciRozzi, Assistant Director P&CD
Connor Murphy, Staff Planner, P&CD
Carolyn Murray, Attorney (KP Law)
Chairman Karll calls the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
Comprehensive Permit Application (Chapter 40B) that includes an Approval Not Required
Subdivision Plan from 383 Washington Street LLC. The Applicant is proposing to construct a
70-Unit Multi-Family Residential (Rental) “Parkside Apartments” building along with associated
drainage, utility, parking, access, landscaping and lighting improvements on a proposed lot of
93,866 Square Feet. The properties at 383 Washington Street, Storrs Avenue and the way
known as “Alves Avenue” are all Zoned General Business within the Village Overlay District and
are identified on Assessor’s Plan 2028 as Plot 31 and 32-A.
Comprehensive Permit Application (Chapter 40B) that includes an Approval Not Required
Subdivision Plan from 383 Washington Street LLC. The Applicant is proposing to construct
eight (8) Townhouse Style Residential Units (Ownership) “Parkside Condominiums” in two (2)
buildings along with associated drainage, utility, parking, access, landscaping and lighting
improvements on a proposed lot of 20,327 Square Feet. The properties at 383 Washington
Street, Storrs Avenue and the way known as “Alves Avenue” are all Zoned General Business
within the Village Overlay District and are identified on Assessor’s Plan 2028 as Plot 31 and 32-
A.
Chairman Karll explains that there are two separate petitions: one is for the 70-unit apartments
and one is for the 8-unit Townhouse Style Residential Project. Chairman Karll explains that
tonight we will hear from the Applicant’s Traffic Consultant, Jeff Dirk, the Zoning Board’s Peer
Review Consultant, Ron Mueller, Braintree Police Department, Lieutenant Robert Joseph, and
there will be comments from the Zoning Board and the public. The second part of the meeting
will be related to fire access. We will hear from the Applicant, the Braintree Fire Department,
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Deputy Chief Sawtelle, the Zoning Board and the public. Then we will hear from Attorney
Carolyn Murray and the Assistant Director on any follow-up that may be needed.
The third topic will be the 40B Waivers for the 70-unit Rental Project. Attorney Carolyn Murray
will introduce the waivers that are requested. Assistant Director SantucciRozzi will give the
overview of the Staff Report. Then there may be Board dialogue, Applicant’s input and then we
will hear from the public.
Chairman Karll explains that there is another meeting scheduled for December 2, 2019. The
topics of this meeting will be basically an outline of everything we have discussed: stormwater,
fire access, waivers for both projects, landscaping/lighting and whether or not there will be any
further hearings regarding this matter. Chairman Karll would also like to mention that we used
the Mullin Rule for Member Gary Walker. For the record, Member Walker complied with the
Mullin Rule for the October 23, 2019 Meeting. Chairman Karll states that we will start with traffic.
Attorney Peter Freeman, representing the Applicant, states that Mr. Dirk, Traffic Engineer, is
ready; however, Attorney Freeman states that they may have not anticipated a full presentation
as there has been back and forth with the Peer Review.
Jeffrey Dirk, Partner with Vanasse & Associates, who are the Traffic Engineers/Transportation
Consultants for the project, explains that they made a full transportation presentation at the last
public hearing. He would be happy to go through any aspects of the full traffic presentation.
What they were asked to do since the last hearing, and not dwell on a lot of the prior
presentation, was to look at some updated traffic counts. There were two separate
Transportation Impact Assessment Studies prepared for the project. One was prior to the
hearings being suspended; it was two years old at the time the applicant would have started the
hearing process. The concern with that is traffic counts that are more than two years old are
generally not valid. So, they are required to go back out and do updated traffic counts that
validate the traffic counts that are more than two years old. Mr. Dirk explains they did updated
traffic counts, but the unfortunate thing was the counts were done during the summer time in
order to make the submission. As the location is near Thayer Academy, doing traffic counts in
the summer time has the impact of not including traffic volumes that are associated with school
related traffic. It also varies due to people being on vacation in the summer time. There can be
variations in the traffic patterns. With the counts that the Applicant did in July compared to
counts done in December, they did find that there was a significant variation, which was mostly
related to the proximity of Thayer Academy. As a result, they went back out and updated the
traffic counts, and the new traffic counts they published were taken at the end of September and
beginning of October (time periods when schools were back in session and during regular
school hours). This is including, not only commuter related traffic, but any traffic associated with
school buses and people driving their children to and from school. They went back and redid the
entirety of the traffic study using those new traffic counts. They also provided the comparison of
the September/October traffic counts to the December traffic counts. What it basically showed
was that the traffic volumes were generally consistent with what they had counted two years
ago in December and recently this year in September/October. There wasn’t a significant
change in terms of increases in traffic volume. As they went back and did the reanalysis of the
study, the conclusions were generally the same. Even though the traffic volumes were different
from the July conditions, the impacts associated with the project were generally the same as
what they had reported in the updated July Traffic Study. That was submitted to the Peer
Review Consultant, and they received a letter back dated October 30, 2019, which validated
those findings. Essentially, they concurred with the methodology that was used in collecting the
traffic data as well as the analysis conditions and the result of that analysis. The results were
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that, as we added the traffic from this project to the intersections we looked at along Washington
Street and Storrs Avenue, it showed conditions before and after the addition of the project’s
traffic were the same, in that delays went up marginally, increases in queuing went up
marginally.
It wasn’t significant enough that they showed a change in levels of service. What they had
concluded with specific regards to the Washington Street/Elm Street/Storrs Avenue intersection
was that the intersection has four (4) approaches, when operating during the peak hour, that are
at or over their design capacity. Of course, that is not going to get any better in the future, as
traffic volumes increase with or without the project. What they did look at with this project
specifically is what can be done in terms of trying to improve the traffic operations at the
intersection, reduce delays and reduce queuing at the intersection itself. Through some analysis
they performed, what they showed is if they were to adjust the signal timing and phasing, they
could essentially offset the impact of the project, but not only offset the impact but actually result
in an improvement by being able to process more traffic through the intersection with the
possibility of reducing some of the queuing, particularly along Washington Street. Chairman
Karll asks “How are you going to do that?” Mr. Dirk explains that you basically look at the timing.
You know that each of the approaches to the intersection is assigned a certain amount of time
(20 seconds, 30 seconds). You spread that time around the intersection to operate more
efficiently. The goal is to have the traffic signal be more responsive to the actual demands that
are there. The condition that is pointed out, where there is not enough time on that approach. As
you look at the delay around the intersection, some of the approaches are operating better than
the other approaches. For lack of a better term, you try and spread the delay around the
intersections so that you are more efficiently processing the traffic. Chairman Karll asks how
many trips Mr. Dirk thinks will be coming out of the project. Mr. Dirk explains that this project is
going to produce somewhere around 30 peak hour trips between 7:30 AM and 8:30 AM. That is
why, as you look at the impact of the project, if you look at 30 trips over an hour, that is one
vehicle every two minutes. Within a two-minute time period, that signal has cycled several
times. It will process more traffic than this project is actually going to produce. Chairman Karll
states his experience; he comes down Hollis Avenue between 7:30 AM and 7:40 AM every
morning and takes a left onto Washington Street. He has a difficult time entering traffic when
making the left for several reasons. People don’t want to let you in. There are a lot of cars
coming both ways. The only lighter day is a Friday. Monday through Thursday, traffic is very
heavy. Mr. Dirk explains that today that intersection is not operating efficiently. The analysis
bears out the fact that there is added capacity there that could be better allocated to the
approaches at the intersection. Chairman Karll clarifies that Mr. Dirk is talking about timing for
the lights. Mr. Dirk states correct and explains that, looking at the way that the signal is
operating and the equipment that is currently installed at that intersection, it is a question on
whether there is opportunities to upgrade/replace the signal equipment so that it operates more
efficiently. Chairman Karll ask who is going to do that. Mr. Dirk states they are proposing that as
a potential condition if the Zoning Board was inclined to approve the project. The Applicant is
suggesting a two-part condition relating to that intersection. The first would be re-timing the
signal prior to the issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy for the project. The second
would be that they are committing to replace some of the signaling equipment. Chairman Karll
explains that the Applicant would have to go through the Department of Public Works and
maybe the state. Mr. Dirk explains that, as they prepared the Traffic Study, they worked closely
with Town staff. There is an agreement that there are opportunities to do improvements at that
intersection. As a part of this project and their analysis, they have looked at what those potential
improvements would be. Mr. Dirk explains that Zoning would have to approve what those
improvements are. They are making a commitment that prior to occupancy they adjust the
timing and phasing to address the existing conditions that are noted. That would include
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replacing signal equipment, if it is necessary, at the intersection. They are also committing that,
within six months of achieving 80% occupancy, they will go back out and redo it. There is an
improvement before any occupation occurs, but the most important part is, as the project gets
constructed and we have residents living there and the traffic gets realized on the roadway, they
will go back out to adjust the traffic signal again to account for those real traffic patterns.
As people are getting used to the roadway and the access points at the site itself, that will
change the traffic patterns at the intersection. Mr. Dirk states they have done, and the Peer
Reviewer has done, our best to figure what those traffic patterns may be, but they are
committing to actually adjusting the timing to reflect the actual traffic patterns after the project is
actually occupied. This is a two-stage approach. Prior to occupancy, fix the conditions that are
there today. Address the impacts of the project and do a further adjustment after you have some
occupied units. Chairman Karll asks if the Applicant has thought about a shuttle service from the
project to the T Station for people that take public transportation. Mr. Dirk explains they didn’t
look at that as part of the Traffic Study, but it could be discussed with the Applicant and would
be certainly beneficial to reduce the traffic volumes. There is bus service within walking distance
that residents have access to. Mr. Dirk suggests that shuttle service could be discussed with the
Applicant, as it would have a benefit. Chairman Karll reminds that the Quincy Adams T Station
has opened an entrance on Independence Avenue. Mr. Dirk explains that they are certainly a
proponent of anything that gets people to walk, bike or use public transportation for any project.
It is a question on whether the cost to provide that service relative to the size of the project and
the net reduction of trips that you are going to achieve. At some point it is disproportionate. The
applicant has projects that are over 200 units, or a shuttle can be run as a shuttle service that
serves multiple developments in the area. In discussions with the Town, there may be the
possibility of discussing a shuttle service with other residential developments in the area. For a
project of this size to run a shuttle service, it is probably disproportionate to the number of trips
that are actually going to get reduced. Mr. Dirk expresses that they appreciate the review that
was undertaken by both Town staff and the Review Consultant. The recommendations have
resulted in a better project, with improvements that will be beneficial for the Town.
Chairman Karll wants to publicly thank the Planning Department staff; they have put a lot of
hours into this, and the Board appreciates their effort. There are no questions from Zoning
Board Members at this time.
Ron Muiller, Principal with Ron Muiller and Associates, the Traffic Engineering firm, and
registered Professional Traffic Engineer in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, has done a
pretty extensive review of the Traffic Study done in July. At the last meeting, one of Mr. Muiller’s
associates did a presentation to the Board about their findings. One of the more important
comments that they made in that review was the disparity between the traffic counts that they
found between the July study and a study that they had done two years prior. The Applicant has
since collected new traffic counts at all of these intersections in September and October and
found that the current volumes are higher, certainly higher than the July counts as well as the
December counts. Mr. Muiller advises that the Applicant has updated all of their analysis using
these new counts, and he is comfortable that the methodology that they have employed
accurately now reflects existing conditions and the impacts of the project. Mr. Muiller concurs
with Mr. Dirk in his statement that what they found is, although that the project has an impact
(every project has an impact if you add traffic), that impact is very small. Most notable, at the
intersection of Elm Street/ Washington Street/Storrs Avenue, it is an existing failing location –
meaning it is an F Level of service. It is very tough to get through that intersection during peak
times. What has been suggested by the Applicant, in the signal timing adjustments that have
been proposed as mitigation for the project, will in fact improve the operation of the intersection.
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Will it improve greatly? No. Will it offset the impacts of the project? Yes. As Traffic Engineers,
what we need to look at is to mitigate your impact. Mr. Muiller believes they can do that with
these changes. What Mr. Muiller recommends is that, before they go and make these signal
changes, they prepare plans and submit those to the DPW for review and approval, both in the
pre-occupancy condition as well as at 80% occupancy.
Mr. Muiller suggests the Applicant submit plans for review at both of those scenarios. Mr. Muiller
states, as mentioned by Mr. Dirk, they should do a thorough review of the intersection to make
sure all of the signal equipment is working the way it is supposed to and designed and that
every-thing is functioning properly. Chairman Karll asks if they will have to synchronize the
timing of lights at Washington and Storrs with other lights up or down the road. Mr. Muiller
doesn’t believe that it is currently coordinated. Mr. Muiller advises that, depending on the
distance between inter-sections and the traffic condition, often it is a good idea to synchronize
or coordinate traffic signals. That could be a further request from the Zoning Board to have the
Applicant study that. At this point, Mr. Muiller cannot answer that because the Applicant has not
submitted that information or proposed anything like that.
Chairman Karll asks if Mr. Muiller has any thoughts on a possible shuttle service. Mr. Muiller
advises that generally shuttle services work great when they are associated with transportation
management services. These organizations exist throughout the state, but he doesn’t know if
Braintree is part of one. Basically, they get together with existing businesses in the area to find
ways to implement a shuttle service or to implement carpooling between business employees
and residents. Those transportation management services can be very effective, but he would
have to agree with Mr. Dirk in that for a single project the size and economics don’t make sense,
and there is bus service on Washington Street.
Chairman Karll asks the Zoning Board members if they have any questions for Mr. Muiller.
There are none at this time.
Lieutenant Robert Joseph, Braintree Police Department, mentions that, with reference to the
lights and the timing, the issue in the afternoon is the amount of people that get stuck in that
intersection. It is not allowing enough time for them to clear out so that anyone from Storrs
Avenue to come out. Another concern is how many people will be cutting through the project,
when it is completed or during construction, to avoid the light. There is an issue with the safety
of pedestrian traffic. There is a blind spot near Dependable Cleaners. Most people have to pull
out onto the sidewalk to see if their path is clear. Lieutenant Joseph is not sure how much the
timing of the lights will help in these situations. He points out that, in the afternoon, the
intersection of Washington Street and Elm Street can back up almost to Common Street. It is a
very congested area. People from Elm Street trying to make a left turn onto Washington get
stuck in the intersections. This blocks people from Storrs Avenue from getting out, and the cycle
repeats itself.
Lieutenant Joseph states another issue is how the project will affect the neighborhoods, with the
amount of people leaving and trying to avoid those intersections by cutting through
neighborhood streets. Lieutenant Joseph asks about the number of parking spaces and the
Assistant Director clarifies that the project is providing 149 parking spaces (128 spaces for the
apartments and 21 spaces for the condominiums). The ratio for the apartments is 1.82, and the
condos is 2.62. Lieutenant Joseph doesn’t think speeding is going to be a concern because of
the congestion. It is tough now, not only for the residents but also for any emergency apparatus
(police, fire, ambulance) to get through. Lieutenant Joseph doesn’t know what the answer is, but
he is not sure how much changing the timing will help.
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Ron Muiller, Peer Review, states as part of that signal timing adjustment being proposed, he
has also recommended they look and recalculate the signal clearance, which are the yellow and
all red times, which are a part of every signal operation. Currently, they are too short given the
distance between stop lines on Washington Street, which is caused by the offset intersection
between Elm and Storrs. If they recalculate and increase the signal clearance times. It will give
more time for traffic to clear the intersection before Elm Street and Storrs Ave. get the green
light.
Currently, what is happening a lot of times is traffic is still backed up through the intersection,
and they don’t have anywhere to go. The effect of that will be slightly worse traffic operations
because you are taking away green time, but the safety benefits of that outweigh other aspects.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi had some very initial comments on traffic and most of them
have been satisfied through responses from Mr. Dirk and our Peer Consultant. She did have
one question, which Mr. Muiller included in his report. It jogged her memory when Lieutenant
Joseph brought this up. Early on, she requested that the applicant add to their plans the striping
that is on Washington Street in the vicinity of the Parkingway. There actually isn’t striping out
there. She thinks what is happening is that people are parking too close to that intersection.
They are hanging half of the front of the car out into Washington Street. She would like the
Board to ask the Applicant to look at that corridor and the Parkingway and to look at the
approach to the Parkingway to come up with a striping plan that would present a safe and
adequate approach. She explained that it was not just this particular project, the municipal lot
and other dwellings in the back are there. This is so that people accessing that street can, in
fact, see what is coming and make an approach onto Washington Street. That has not been
submitted by the Applicant. Chairman Karll states there was a car there this morning blocking
the passageway near Dependable Cleaners. Staff states this is not an effort to restrict parking
on Washington Street. It is to have an understanding of where the spaces should be. Obviously,
that would be reviewed by our DPW, as mentioned earlier similar to the signal work. Whether
this project goes forward or not, the Town should implement this themselves. Staff mentioned
that looking at this corridor was requested of the Applicant and has not been provided. She
would ask Mr. Dirk to look at that and prepare something. Chairman Karll asks Mr. Dirk if he
could look at that issue. Chairman Karll mentions to Lieutenant Joseph that, if this project does
come to fruition, perhaps the Police Department can patrol that area a little further and issue
some tickets so people know they can’t park where they are not supposed to.
Lieutenant Joseph mentions, as far as the municipal lot behind there, on the overnight hours,
they haven’t had any complaints from people in that municipal lot. The only people parking
overnight in that municipal lot are the people that live at 381 Washington Street (the building
adjacent to Dependable Cleaners). There are usually six cars in that lot at night. Chairman Karll
is not talking about overnight parking; he is talking about people parking at an angle near
Dependable Cleaners and blocking access to Parkingway. Lieutenant Joseph mentions that
there is a large demand for services of the Police Department throughout Town. Lieutenant
Joseph mentioned maybe there should be no parking along the side of the building.
Member Ford asks Lieutenant Joseph if the Braintree Police have any concerns with response
times in that area and/or do they keep track of response times in different areas of town.
Lieutenant Joseph advises that the response time is good anywhere around town; obviously, it
is more difficult during rush-hour times, but they do get through.
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Chairman Karll asks the Zoning Board Members for any comments at this time. There are no
comments from the Zoning Board at this time.
Chairman Karll asks for any comments from the public concerning traffic.
Patrick J. Leonard, Jr., 27 Parkside Circle, references a few words used by Mr. Dirk such as
“marginally”, “access points” and “project of this size”. Mr. Leonard finds all of those fascinating.
The premise of the traffic presented by the visiting team is based on the assumption that
everyone from that project, which Mr. Leonard feels is not a good project, exits to Washington
Street and Elm Street. Lieutenant Joseph mentioned a point that Mr. Leonard is most concerned
about, which is when people use another way. With regard to “access points”, Mr. Leonard
states that if he lived in that project after a couple of days he would realize you cannot exit onto
Washington Street or Elm Street. Mr. Leonard does not think the Town of Braintree should
change the lights to adapt to a real estate development. What is going to happen is the people
that live there will find other access points. What are those access points? Cocheto Road, Oak
Street, Parkside Circle. The area from West Street to Storrs Avenue will be negatively affected
by this project. What are now quiet, residential streets are going to become the access points to
this development particularly in snowy weather. Mr. Leonard discusses the Storrs Avenue
intersection in the snow and mentions that people are going to seek other ways just for safety. If
a project of this size is ever approved, it will change the traffic flow in this area (Storrs Avenue,
Parkside Circle, West Street). Residential streets will become busy streets in the morning.
Another thing that Mr. Leonard found puzzling was that it said 30 cars are going to exit between
7:30 AM and 8:30 AM. How do you know who is going to live there? Generally, people moving
into this complex are working people. If you have 150 cars, that means 120 cars are not going
to move in the morning. Mr. Leonard doesn’t know how you can predict 30 out of 150 if you
don’t know who is going to live there. Mr. Leonard states that piece of property is landlocked;
there aren’t too many ways to get to that property. Mr. Leonard feels that people will realize very
soon that to go out to Storrs Avenue/Washington Street is difficult, and they will start going the
other way.
Chairman Karll asks, if this project wasn’t approved, wouldn’t the traffic lights at Washington
Street and Storrs Avenue need to be regulated anyway, as it is very poor. Mr. Leonard doesn’t
disagree with that, but what he disagrees with is why we are doing it. The premise is that this is
being adjusted to help the developer do something. He doesn’t think the Town should change
laws or anything to help a real estate developer. The real estate developer needs to adapt to the
laws of the Town. Chairman Karll thinks those lights have to be adjusted anyway. Mr. Leonard
agrees.
Peter Kurzberg, resident 42 Hollingsworth Avenue and also President of Temple B’nai Shalom
located at 41 Storrs Avenue diagonally across from the proposed project, wants to make a
couple of comments on traffic; he knows many people have spoken about it before. Dr.
Kurzberg comments on the issue that just came up tonight about changing the signals and
thinks we should just do it now if it will improve that intersection without the project. It seems like
that would help everybody out. Dr. Kurzberg mentions that traffic is currently a problem in many
parts of the Town, including Braintree Square. Morning and afternoon commute times, which
continue to be extended at both ends, make it more difficult to navigate the square, forcing
frustrated drivers to take routes speeding through neighborhood roads. Dr. Kurzberg knows the
Town is working on slowing down cars using various types of speed bumps; he also cannot
imagine people living in a complex with 70 units trying to get out of the main entrance on
Washington Street through a two-lane narrow street, which seems more like an expanded
alleyway. Having to turn right would seem to be the only feasible way to exit the property. The
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alternative is to get out on Storrs Avenue, turn right and hope to get through a light that will have
to be adjusted to allow more cars to go through, further causing congestion that already exists
at the intersection. An alternative is to turn left and work your way through the neighborhoods to
get to your destination. Again having to make a right turn would seem to be the only feasible
way to exit the property without tremendously over-burdening the neighborhood. Neither option
for exiting the apartment complex seem very attractive or functional. The owners of the
condominiums are not much better off trying to figure out the best way to leave their home. Dr.
Kurzberg would only say that, just because the buildings can be constructed on the site and the
developer may be able to do so under the 40B provision, doesn’t mean that they should be built.
Dr. Kurzberg states the project is too big for the site and doesn’t belong there. The scope of the
project proposed is 3 ½ times what the Zoning Bylaws call for, and despite whatever excellent
engineering plans may be developed for traffic or other issues that will be discussed later, like
drainage and water, the extent to which they will work will not be known until the project is
completed, in addition to any problems that will come up during excavation and the construction
phase. Dr. Kurzberg asks what the options for the Town are: (1) continue to present the case
that it has met the requirement to prevent a 40B project from moving forward through the courts,
if necessary; or (2) work with the developer and try and negotiate a compromise to reduce the
number of units being proposed and come up with a solution that does not drastically impact the
area and the Town negatively while still allowing the developer to make a reasonable profit.
Everybody won’t get everything that they want, but it is somewhat of a win-win situation rather
than winner-take-all situation. Short of that, Dr. Kurzberg would as the Zoning Board to place as
many conditions and restrictions as possible within your purview to mitigate the impact on the
neighborhood and the community.
Chairman Karll presents questions to future speakers based on Dr. Kurzberg’s discussion. One
question is related to compromise; he realizes everyone will have a different opinion. Chairman
Karll asks what would be a fair compromise. Dr. Kurzberg states somewhere between what the
bylaws allow and what is being proposed.
Liz Page, Storrs Avenue, feels that sometimes you can compromise but wonders why it is that
residents have to adhere to Zoning Bylaws but no one else is expected to. Chairman Karll
states Chapter 40B. Mrs. Page states that is unfortunate that it gets used this way. She is
listening to so many people speak tonight, some of which have good points, but other
statements are making her crazy. She refers to the intersection at Washington/Elm/Storrs and
states maybe we can move the streets because that is really what needs to be done, as they
are not aligned properly. She states the timing has been adjusted several time; this isn’t rocket
science. Nothing that is being proposed here tonight hasn’t already happened before. This isn’t
a real solution. Until you can realign the streets, you will always have these problems. With
regard to realigning the parking along Parkingway, she feels, once again, that the small
businesses in Braintree Square will get the short end of the stick. Everything is being done to
accommodate this one, big, mammoth project. Mrs. Page asks where the visitor parking is for
this project. Is it the municipal parking lot? Storrs Avenue? When she listens to Traffic
Engineers, she recognizes that they are well intentioned, but when they say Thayer Academy is
the big impact on this neighborhood, she realizes they don’t even know this neighborhood.
There are residential elementary schools within the neighborhood that are impacting the traffic.
That is why the traffic count is different from July. It is not necessarily because of Thayer
Academy. This tells her that the people determining how to make this work are not familiar with
the neighborhood. Mrs. Page feels that the number of cars coming from the project between
7:30 and 8:30 AM seems so inaccurate. Half of the neighbors on her street have 3 cars in their
driveway. Mrs. Page thinks that there are so many issues coming into this whole traffic
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discussion that aren’t being adequately addressed. She mentions that this is creating a whole
new thoroughfare going from Parkingway to Storrs Avenue. You are now creating a “cut-
through”, and people will use that instead of the light. She concludes that there are so many
issues arising from this that have not really been addressed, and she hopes that we stop and
consider them all.
Kathy Mosesso, Colby Road, was puzzled when the Traffic Engineer mentioned Thayer
Academy and didn’t mention Flaherty, Hollis, Monatiquot, East Middle, the High School and four
nursery schools. Buses travel these road, kids walk to school, and parents drive their kids to
school. There is a ton of traffic in that timeframe. Mrs. Mosesso sat in front of Dunkin Donuts
and watched how many cars stopped on the sidewalk near Dependable Cleaners because they
could not get into traffic and how many times they blocked the sidewalk. People walking dogs or
baby carriages or just pedestrian traffic had to walk either in front of or behind the car because
the car couldn’t get out. Mrs. Mosesso cannot believe 30 trips are generated from 78
apartments and 140 parking spaces. This does not provide for two spaces per apartment, and
she questions where are visitors going to park or what happens if each unit needs space for two
cars. Mrs. Mosesso asks, with the lights being adjusted, what if it doesn’t work after that
adjustment. She thinks that the Applicant should perform a test letting 30 cars out of that
parking lot during the morning timeframe now with the light adjustment; this should be done
before the project is complete to see if it works. Once the project is built, we have no recourse.
Jill Coyle, Parkside Avenue, would like to address the Peer Review. Her first comment is related
to the 1.86 cars; she has been a financial forecaster for medical manufacturers. She cannot sell
1.86 machines; she rounds up to the next whole number, which is 2. That alone would help with
the parking situation and possibly prevent those from using the municipal lot and impacting the
local businesses. She would like to make a suggestion related to revisiting the traffic signal
when 80% occupancy is achieved; she suggests, as an additional condition, that the same
review occurs once 100% occupancy is achieved. Mrs. Coyle states that a prior speaker
mentioned replacing signal equipment, if needed, and she does not see that in the Peer Review.
Mrs. Coyle mentions a pet peeve around the size of parking spaces. She realizes that not all
spaces will be at 23.5 feet, which is the proposed size. The bylaw size is 24 feet, and she hopes
we can make the spaces the required size of 24 feet. With regard to the stop signs required for
Parkingway entrance, she doesn’t know where they will go because if you have them too far
back the driver has no sightline. If the stop signs are too far forward, you will have cars blocking
sidewalk and impacting pedestrian traffic. She doesn’t know how to determine where they will
be placed so that they are effective for the driver and safe for the pedestrian. Her last comment
is pertaining to the Hastings Consulting, which was a follow-up question on the Peer Review.
The comments were to make sure that the Fire Department confirmed that the plan was
adequate for them. Mrs. Coyle states, just looking at what was prepared, she could not believe
that what was placed on a plan was a dotted red line going around the inaccessible parts of the
building and called a fire path. They were calculated so that fully-equipped firemen, carrying
manual equipment because they have no access, would literally have to almost walk into the
building so that it would look like it was under 250 feet to comply with the law. Mrs. Coyle
comments that was absurd and mentions on the other side of the building it was 232 feet,
provided no one parks in their way and the truck is exactly where you have it on the plan. Mrs.
Coyle finds that insulting to our public safety officers. Mrs. Coyle is hoping the Peer Review can
clarify the turning movements in the A.M. at Storrs Avenue. Mrs. Coyle recalls there was a
comment pertaining to having a “No Left Turn” there. If this report is stating that 18 cars will go
left, they are basically saying that 100% of the cars coming out of there are going to take a left
turn. At 7:30 and 8:30 in the morning, Mrs. Coyle would like to know why an assumption was
made that commuter time vehicles would be taking a left on Storrs Avenue and not going right
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to get onto Washington and subsequently to get to the highway. If there is a reasonable
explanation, fine; otherwise, that would have to be adjusted to move that number into the right-
hand turn and then the entire summary would have to be recalculated. She would venture a
guess that the LOS would be even more undesirable than it is now. Mrs. Coyle is hoping that
she gets a response to the left turn on Storrs Avenue.
Gail Sacony, 33 May Avenue (on the corner of Hollis), walks to Dunkin Donuts on Washington
Street on a regular basis, and she has almost been hit by a car a number of times by cars
exiting parking alongside Dependable Cleaners. She has also had problems in the crosswalk
going to the convenience store on the opposite side of Washington Street. Her big concern, in
addressing the Storrs Avenue issue, is the West Street issue. Because of the Storrs Avenue
problem, certain times of the day and Hollis Elementary School she has counted 30 cars from
West Street back towards Storrs Avenue, completely gridlocked. She recognizes that we spoke
about accessibility for firetrucks at the project location; she would also like to ask, in a situation
where there is a shooting incident which we are hearing about more frequently, how would a
team be able to get form the Police Station down into that Parkingway access. There is nowhere
for cars to get out of the way in order to have access in an emergency of that nature. She
realizes that one of the things that can refute the 40B proposal is public safety. She brings up
that there are public safety issues around police accessibility, fire accessibility and school
access because of lack of mobility. Mrs. Sacony states the issues are not related to just Storrs
Avenue; there are public safety issues up through West Street.
John Sullivan and his wife have lived at 10 Abbott Street, which is at the end of Storrs Avenue,
for 35 years or so, a football field away from the epicenter of the proposal. As someone who
frequents the South Shore quite a bit, driving all over the place, he can say with some dismay
that Washington Street from Braintree Square to South Braintree Square (including Elm Street
going down to St. Thomas Moore Church) is by far the worst traffic on the South Shore that he
has encountered on a regular basis. The idea of dropping a project of this size right into the
epicenter of this traffic quagmire is mind boggling to residents. When the word “marginal” comes
up related to its effect on traffic, you are already talking about a situation that is beyond maxed
out. This will result in a situation that is going to be untenable for neighbors, who are trying to
protect what they have. The feeling of tenseness and agitation that we feel when taking a left
onto Washington Street to get from one place to another is not something we want to address
on a daily basis, if they can help it. Mr. Sullivan states, as Dr. Kurzberg had suggested, maybe
there is a compromise that has a balance to our neighborhood, which we will need if the project
goes forward.
Judy Karll, 60 Rita Road, attends the Temple on Storrs Avenue. At the first meeting, she
approached the builders and asked them if they might like to consider donating the land to the
Temple and to Archbishop Williams. Mrs. Karll refers to being in that area on a Saturday or a
Sunday when there is a football game, with a visiting team. She wonders where all of these
people are going to park. She imagines that there will be parking on both sides of Storrs
Avenue, and she concludes that there will be difficulties for fire apparatus to get through. She
thinks, with some kind of consideration, that you have to recognize that there are people that
have existed there for a period of time. Some consideration has to be made for them. Mrs. Karll
understands that the Applicant is from the Town, and requests that they have some thoughts for
people that have been living here, like the Applicant, and what they are supposed to do when
you overwhelm the community with your project. Mrs. Karll acknowledges that the Applicant’s
projects are extremely well-built and are beautiful properties, but there is a time and a place for
everything. Perhaps this isn’t the place to build that large property because it is not going to fit in
the community in that area.
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Josephine Salloway, who has lived at 57 Cochato Road off of Storrs Avenue for about 48 years,
states that her street has become a cross-through, and Storrs Avenue has become a raceway.
She watches the children, as they come back from Flaherty School as they try to walk up the
hill. It is an area that we have to be concerned about. There are a lot of neighbors that have
lived her for a long time, and we like the quiet. Unfortunately, you don’t have sidewalks on both
sides of the street. So, if you try to walk on the broken sidewalk, you have to walk on the road,
and it is not safe. Mrs. Salloway states we have to think of quality of life for everyone who is
living there. When we talk about adding so many people to an area, she discusses the situation
with lack of water and inability to water lawn. She asks if these new residents are not going to
use water or are they going to bring their own water. What will they use for washing machines,
dishwashers or drinking water? Mrs. Salloway thinks this is something we have to consider, as it
is a serious issue, as well as safety.
Mrs. Salloway states that safety is also a serious issue, as we have cut-through traffic and we
will have more. Mrs. Salloway discusses an incident when a child was killed due to a speeding
car. She asks if we need more of that in order for people to understand, and she asks that the
Board and Applicant please think about it before they take any aggressive action.
John Haran, 141 Walnut Street, hopes that parking is part of the traffic discussion and states
that someone had mentioned a compromise involving the athletic complex and keeping the
parking lot there so that they can continue to use it. Mr. Haran would note that the parking lot is
currently used by Archbishop Williams for football, track, lacrosse and soccer games and
practices almost year-round. If that parking lot was lost, those cars would need a place to park.
If they park on Storrs Avenue, Cochato, etc. that would create a public safety hazard. Mr. Haran
would suggest that if you are going to make a compromise, keeping the parking lot for the use
of that field, the Baptist Church and the Synagogue would be helpful. Chairman Karll mentions
that we do not have authority to keep it, as it doesn’t belong to us.
Alan Weinberg, 19 Windemere Circle, is very familiar with the traffic and traffic plans and those
things that supposedly work. Unfortunately, in real time during peak periods, he doesn’t think
there is a way to stop traffic. Emergency vehicles are always important. When you look at traffic
issues, you want to look at high peak times, and as a previous speaker said, there is an
expansion of what peak times are and they may be from 3:30 PM to 7:30 PM. Mr. Weinberg
states changing the signalization may work for part of the time, but he doesn’t think it will work
for all of the time. One of his suggestions is to take ten additional vehicles from each
intersection exiting the site onto Storrs Avenue and exiting the site onto Washington during
those peak hours and do a trial after the signalization is changed. He feels signalization only
works for a while. He mentions that Five Corners has had a signalization change, and it is a big
problem.
Chairman Karll mentions to Mr. Dirk that the question he asked earlier was did anybody actually
drive in that area during September, October or November, rather than stand there and count.
Mr. Dirk states that he drove in the area multiple times during the morning and evening peak
periods on multiple days and at different times during the year. He is familiar with everything
that is described, but he feels the question is are there improvements that can be made to
improve the flow of traffic. The answer is “yes”, there absolutely is. What the analysis is showing
is that the intersection can operate much more efficiently. As we look at what is going on in each
of the approaches to the intersection, what it is saying to us is there is the opportunity to
improve the way that the traffic signal is operating, so that is what we are doing. Mr. Dirk states,
as they had mentioned, they are going to do that before they occupy the site and then they are
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going to go back, after we have constructed the site and have residents living there, and
improve it again to the extent that it is necessary. It is something where they are putting the
proof before the project gets built and improve the operation before they even have residents at
the site. Then, they will go back and adjust it after they have people living there. Mr. Dirk states
that it is true that the corridor is not operating efficiently. It is not just this one intersection. There
are multiple intersections along that corridor that could be retimed to operate better. What it
comes down to is that it is time and money to go and do that. At this intersection in particular,
you have an applicant that is going to spend the money to have their Traffic Engineer redesign
the traffic signal. It sounds like an easy thing to do, but to take Town resources and have them
undertake the design that will be necessary to make those changes or repair broken signal
equipment, is all time and money that the Town doesn’t have. This project will have impacts at
that intersection, and the Applicant is stepping forward and saying they will address those
impacts through these improvements at the locations both before and after they occupy.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi would like to address two items, and she mentions that there
has been a couple questions about 70 units, the number of parking spaces, where do we arrive
at 30 vehicles. The Assistant Director asks Mr. Muiller, the Peer Review Consultant, to provide
an explanation of how a traffic engineer arrives at these numbers, as that might be helpful. She
also states, on a separate project that Mr. Muiller happens to be working on related to two
developments in Braintree (one is apartments and one is condominiums), he recently has
actually physically counted the driveway. One project is four years old, and the other is over ten
years old.
Mr. Muiller explains that the Applicant came up with trip estimates for the project using what we
call the Institute of Transportation Engineers Trip Generation Manual. It is a national publication
where they have counted numerous different land uses (including apartment and condominium
developments) and compiled that information and developed trip rates that can be applied per
unit that these types of developments generate. Mr. Muiller states what he found, as part of
another project where his firm did traffic counts at two existing developments at 20 Pond Street
and 147 Hancock Street, is that they generate almost identical to what the ITE Trip Generation
Manual says it should generate. It goes beyond those two counts that he just conducted last
week. He has done his own studies at existing condominium and apartment developments over
the 30+ years, and he has consistently come back to find that these projects generate either
what the ITE Manual says or actually slightly less than that. There is a tremendous amount of
data collection that has gone into developing these rates, and he has to believes, based on
what he has seen over the years, that the numbers are, in fact, accurate.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi states the second thing she would like to bring up is that there
has been a lot of talk about Archbishop Williams and the parking lot. She had an opportunity to
go back into the files related to permitting around the field that the Zoning Board of Appeals put
stipulations on Archbishop Williams that, if it felt as though it was required, they were to use
their lot up near the school and shuttle people. Based on the discussion this evening, with or
without this project, the Assistant Director thinks it might be time for the Town to engage
Archbishop Williams, remind them of their obligation and to put them on notice that these
stipulations are, in fact, in your approval that is related to parking and they may have to invoke
them and follow through on. That is a condition of a Variance granted by the Zoning Board of
Appeals, and it can be stipulated, exercised and enforced through Zoning, if needed. Assistant
Director SantucciRozzi wanted to point that out and make the audience aware of that, for the
record.
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Julia Flaherty, 11 McCue Drive, and she is the Councilor Elect to District 1, wasn’t planning to
say anything tonight because she feels the residents can be counted on to bring up all the
issues that matter, but there is one thing that nobody has touched upon that she wanted to add
to the mix. In her canvasing, she walked up and down Common Street. The top of Common
Street, where it intersects with Washington Street, is a really busy intersection, a lot like Storrs,
except it is closer to the highway. The residents at the top of Common Street have raised a
concern a few times about the amount of exhaust particulate that they are breathing in their
yards or anytime they come in and out of their homes. The residents tell Ms. Flaherty that there
have been some studies about the buildup of exhaust at that particular intersection. She has not
seen that data, but the residents are very concerned about it, and it is not very distant from the
intersection of Storrs and Washington. Ms. Flaherty knows the traffic study suggests impacts
are marginal, but she is aware that a marginal impact can be more substantive in creating a
critical mass than it seems like it would, especially with concern to air pollution. Ms. Flaherty
states, if you are going to add this traffic to this already busy intersection adjacent to numerous
other busy intersections, she thinks that you should be paying some attention to the kind of
impact air quality is going to have.
Chairman Karll states we are now going to hear about fire access, and we will first hear from the
Applicants. Chairman Karll reminds the audience, before presentation and arguments are made,
that we are operating under a Massachusetts General Law, Chapter 40B, which is something
the Town has to deal with. We may not like it, but it is something we have to deal with.
Chairman Karll knows the legislature in Boston have been trying to amend or modify it, but
obviously it hasn’t been in many years. If people are really concerned about 40B, Chairman
Karll strongly recommends that they contact our legislator and/or other legislators in the area
about Chapter 40B because it is something we have to live with until amended or modified.
Attorney Peter Freeman, representing the Applicant, states that they were not aware that Fire
Department issues were one of the topics tonight. If they had been aware, they would have
brought Mr. Hastings. Attorney Freeman states that the Zoning Board has Mr. Hastings’
memorandum that was submitted; it has already been referred to by one of the speakers of
public commentary. Attorney Freeman states they will rely on the Memorandum, and their
Engineer, Jim Burke, can say a few words about it and would be happy to answer questions.
The Applicant is certainly interested in hearing from the Fire Department. The Applicant got a
recent letter just the other day, and they don’t have a specific response because there wasn’t
time. They reserve the right to bring extraneous things to the next hearing, if necessary.
Jim Burke, Professional Engineer registered in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, mentions
that he had a meeting a while ago with Fire Prevention Officer Sawtelle and Planning
Department staff. What was requested at that particular time was to generate a plan that
showed, not only the right-turn access into the site, but also the left-turn access, as well as
additional detail at the intersection of Storrs and Washington on how the fire truck would be able
to maneuver taking a left turn down Storrs Avenue with traffic. Mr. Burke states they generated
that plan and submitted it to the Planning Board for review. In addition to that, they also
provided a plan that showed the lateral access around the building for placement of ladders in a
safe manner. Lastly, they have a letter that Attorney Freeman mentioned from a Professional
Engineer and an expert in building and fire access that states that this building is designed in
compliance with those regulations. Chairman Karll asks Mr. Burke if he has seen today’s letter
from Deputy Fire Chief Sawtelle, and Mr. Burke states that he has not, but would be interested
in seeing it. Chairman Karll strongly urges Mr. Burke to look at it.
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Deputy Fire Chief Steven Sawtelle, Fire Prevention Officer for the Town of Braintree, is in
receipt of the letter from Mr. Hastings that Mr. Burke sited. Deputy Chief Sawtelle wants to touch
base about this letter and references NFPA 1-18.1.3.1 – Fire Apparatus Access and quotes
“Plans for fire apparatus roads shall be submitted to the Fire Department for review and
approval prior to construction.” Chief Sawtelle sites the NFPA 1 2015 Edition, but states that
clause is in the 2011, 2015 and the newest edition of 2018. Secondly, the term “Fire Access
Road” is misleading. According to the revised plans, they site Fire Access Road, but it is not
really a road it is a path. On the left side of the building, which the Fire Department will not have
access to, with the new landscaping they have, they create a fire path that is eight-feet wide.
Deputy Chief Sawtelle states, if he throws a ground ladder, you need to have the butt of the
ground ladder at least 9 or 10 feet away from the base of the building. So, they will be climbing
up through the arborvitae to get to access the ladder. The other issue is that it will be on an
incline; there will be a grade. The front of the building will be at a higher point than this part of
the building. The tallest ground ladder carried is a 35 foot ladder. He understands that the
Applicant says fire response can walk around the building. One side of the building is 245 feet,
and the other side of the building is 248 feet. We are going to be carrying ladders, internal gear
and ventilation equipment. It is labor intensive and takes a lot of manpower. We are not Boston
Fire. We are going to have 11-13 guys; one guy is going to be the incident commander. You
take him out of the count. Now you have 10-12 guys.
Deputy Fire Chief Steven Sawtelle states they will be in a ladder on each side of the building.
Braintree does not have that kind of manpower. He also mentions that the rear of the building is
15 feet wide. That being said, if they traverse one side of the building (the Masonic Temple side)
and get to the end, he is not sure they will be able to go to the back side of the building with the
35 foot ladder. So, they will have to turn around, come back and exit to the other side. In the
revised plans, Chief Sawtelle believes the paths are not paved on that side of the building. You
are looking at these situations in pristine conditions. What happens when there is snow? What
will access be? Chief Sawtelle discusses Chapter 3, Fire Department Access Roads, “the road
or other means developed to allow access and operational set-up of fire-fighting and rescue
apparatus”. Chief Sawtelle states it is not merely a path; they have to have room to work. You
have to have working clearance, and at eight feet on that side of the building, we are taking
down a firefighter and a resident on a ladder. Chief Sawtelle mentions that there was a fire in
Quincy at The Falls on Falls Boulevard. There was not enough working access, and a firefighter
fell down an embankment. Chief Sawtelle doesn’t want to see that happen to a Braintree
firefighter. As far as the apparatus placement in the traffic circle, Chief Sawtelle is not going to
commit a piece of apparatus to the traffic circle. Chief Sawtelle stated that in the previous
meeting. Once you commit a piece of apparatus, you are done. If you placed it wrong, you
cannot undo it without it being time-consuming. Chief Sawtelle discusses the plan where it
shows fire apparatus can take a left from the Parkingway and place the apparatus on a grassy
knoll area, and he states he is not going to take the apparatus off hard pavement. He cannot
raise the aerial there. The outriggers go out each side 7.8 feet. He needs 15 feet for the
outriggers and the width of the truck. You are looking at 25 feet minimum that the truck will take.
Plus you have to be offset from the building to create a safe climbing angle. Chief Sawtelle is
never going to put the apparatus where it is shown on the plan in the grassy side of the building.
You cannot take the front side of the building in the traffic circle because you have to allow for
fire suppression to attack. Firefighters have to be able to access the building. The other place
he is not going to put the apparatus is on the Storrs Avenue side where the parking garage is.
He is not going to commit the apparatus to parking spaces 31 to 34. He is not going to commit
to the parking circle because, he can technically reach the right side of the building, but now he
is coming off perpendicular off the side of the ladder truck, which is the most unstable portion to
extend the ladder truck off. It is unstable and puts the most stress on the outriggers. Chief
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Sawtelle mentions, by chance, he attended a wedding in Vermont, and he stayed at a hotel that
was a similar shaped building as the Holland Project. He took pictures of the building, not to say
there is access to every side of the building, to show a little perspective. He can provide these
pictures to the Applicant and the Board. It is to show where firefighters will have to traverse in
this project to get into the building. It is an angled building and will illustrate what the firefighters
are up against as far as a fire path and what that means. The hotel was paved all around, but
that is not what he is looking at. He wants to show the shape of the building and what they
would have to traverse to access this building. Those are his concerns as far as fire apparatus
access to this building; he doesn’t think there is. His opinion is that the building does not
conform to the size of the lot. Where it is placed, it is impossible to have firefighter access. With
regard to traffic, on a First Alarm assignment, he questions: Where am I going to put apparatus?
Where am I going to stage? Depending on time of day, am I going to stage on Washington
Street? How is that going to impact traffic? Am I going to bring the apparatus onto the
Parkingway? There are a lot of issues that need to be addressed. From a fire standpoint, Chief
Sawtelle is not comfortable with the size and scope of the building as far as the lot that it is on.
Chairman Karll asks if Chief Sawtelle thinks this is a serious public safety concern. Chief
Sawtelle thinks it is an extreme public safety concern. He understands that the building is
sprinkled, but fires still happen in sprinkled buildings. He cites one at The Falls in Quincy; the
fire started outside the building. There was an arsonist in Weymouth; the development was
under construction and sprinklers were not activated, but the local Chief said the difficulty in
fighting that fire was that space was tight. You couldn’t get in.
Chief Sawtelle mentions a fire at Lenox Farms. The fire started inside the wall, caused by a
gusset plate in contact with an electrical wire. There was a sprinkler system, but the sprinkler
plastic failed. Either way it was not going to extinguish the fire. The fire grew until the fire
department had to open the wall and extinguish it. Firefighters were there for four hours. Chief
Sawtelle mentions a fire at Grove Manor Estates which started outside the building. The fire
suppressant sprinkler system is not going to put that fire out once that gains entry into the
building. Luckily, the fire was detected early by someone inside the building. It was simply
caused by a resident’s cigarette. When fire department showed up, the fire was from the
basement to the third floor of the building (Alzheimer’s Wing). If that fire gets into the building,
there is serious trouble. If the fire starts at the outside of the building, the sprinkler system can
go off but, because the fire has reach such magnitude, it is not going to extinguish it. The water
supply for a sprinkler system is designed for 10% of the total number of heads inside that
building to operate. That is the water supply. So, if you have 400 sprinkler heads inside a
building, the water supply is for 40 sprinkler heads. If the fire is big enough, the water supply is
not sufficient to extinguish the fire. All the heads don’t go off at once; one head will go off above
the scene of the fire. Sprinklers are designed to give residents time to get out. They will contain
fire, but firefighting still has to go in to extinguish, overhaul and clear the building. Under the
building code, sprinklers allow for greater means of egress to an exit. Chairman Karll concludes,
as design Chief Sawtelle has serious public safety concerns. Chief Sawtelle states he has
concerns about fire department access, particularly with the aerial apparatus.
There are no questions from the Zoning Board, at this time, for Deputy Chief Sawtelle.
Attorney Peter Freeman, representing the Applicant, states, although he is not a fire safety
expert by any means, to the extent that his team was obtuse and should have had Mr. Hastings
here, he apologizes. Attorney Freeman wants to thank the Deputy Chief and states that the
Applicant does take concerns seriously. Perhaps, there has been a disconnect between his
team and what they have done so far to make modifications that apparently do not satisfy the
Deputy Chief. Attorney Freeman cannot promise that they can do everything the Deputy Chief
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needs them to do, as he is not the expert. But, they will certainly address it and look at it. The
last thing they want is to create an unsafe situation. The last thing that he, as an attorney, and
Mr. Holland, as a developer, or any of their engineers want is to ask and expect you to approve
a project that has real safety issues. He is sorry that he can only be general at the moment, but
he wanted to reassure the Zoning Board and the Deputy Chief and the public that they will look
at these issues, try to have the plans reviewed and meet with the Deputy Chief. They will try to
do this before December 2nd. Attorney Freeman thanks the Deputy Chief for offering to send the
pictures of the building in Vermont and states that would be great.
Chairman Karll mentions to Attorney Freeman that if they need more time, the Zoning Board
would be glad to give them more time. That being said, prior to starting the public comments,
Chairman Karll would like to take a five minute break. Chairman Karll calls the meeting back to
order. Chairman Karll states, before we start on the public’s input on the fire issue, he wants to
thank Deputy Chief Sawtelle for his work on this. The Applicant did not get a chance to see the
letter that the Board saw tonight that Deputy Chief Sawtelle submitted today; so, he would like
to give them an opportunity to look at it so that they can comment on it the next time on
December 2nd. Chairman Karll would like to ask the public to hold the fire discussion until the
next time, as he thinks we all know that the fire protection is a very important issue and public
safety concern. Chairman Karll would like to give the Applicant a chance to look at it and
comment.
Chairman Karll advises that the next topic they have listed to take up tonight are the 40B
waivers for the 70 Unit Rental Project. There are quite a few, and he does not know the best
way to attack this tonight. One may be to go over some of the items that are not in dispute, if
there are any, and save the ones that are in dispute for the next meeting when we can take up
the fire discussion and the waivers and then open it up generally to the project itself. One other
thought is to have a consensual continuance to give everybody a chance to review these.
Attorney Freeman states we don’t have to do it tonight, and we don’t need a continuance of the
hearing process for that. Attorney Freeman states if Chairman Karll thinks it is best to put this off
until the next hearing, we can do that. In terms of any continuance after December 4th, Attorney
Freeman mentions that Chairman Karll is hoping and expecting that we would conclude, but the
Applicant would understand if the Chairman feels something is absolutely necessary they would
consider a request at that time. As to the waivers, Attorney Freeman briefly discussed with Mrs.
SantucciRozzi, and he thanks her for sending a very thorough Staff Report that she put
together. Attorney Freeman’s thought is, in part because of the lateness of time, but also in part
because (without promising what kind of changes they can make in response to the fire
department letters or anything else remaining on stormwater or anything else) the plans may not
be quite final and that could affect the detailed aspects of the waivers. Attorney Freeman’s
thought is to give a flavor as to the ones there is agreement, that they are procedural and not
controversial in any way and just highlight some of the things that the Applicant already said
they would work on with staff, between now and the next hearing, which they will definitely have
time for even with the Thanksgiving break. They could discuss dimensional things or whether
the Overlay District that applies or the General Business District or a couple of questions that he
has or some of the grading things. Attorney Freeman states this discussion might take about 10
or 15 minutes.
Chairman Karll is turning the discussion over to Assistant Director SantucciRozzi to go over the
ones that are really no controversy about because he thinks we have lost a lot of the audience.
Chairman Karll asks the Assistant Director to start with the non-controversial waivers and
explains that 40B means that the Zoning Board of Appeals gets the whole picture. It doesn’t go
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to the Planning Board; it stays with the Zoning Board of Appeals; there is a 40B Massachusetts
General Law which the Zoning Board has to comply with.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi states, as the Board can see and as noted by the Applicant as
well, she has taken their request for waivers (they had submitted an original request with the
application back in February 2017; it was updated on November 3, 2019), she took the Zoning
Bylaw and went through section-by-section with the plans and she came up with a list of waivers
that are the ones that should be requested by the Applicant. To note, there are some things
requested on their list that, due to their read of the bylaw and not knowing our interpretation and
how we apply that, the Assistant Director feels they don’t need. Those are at the end of her
section of the report. The Assistant Director mentions that there was one item, as referenced by
Attorney Freeman, and highlighted in her report in big letters “WILL NOT BE WAIVED”, and she
can explain that. That section is basically the standards for grading and what the expectations
for grading are, and she would hope that the Applicant would comply with those. She can meet
with Attorney Freeman or the Applicant off-line and go through those.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi states the first section of the report is related to the waivers for
the Subdivision Rules and Regulations pertaining to the subdivision of land in the Town of
Braintree. Again, as Chairman Karll had pointed out, the Zoning Board of Appeals is a “one-
stop” shop under the Comprehensive Permit Law in Massachusetts Chapter 40B. For these
three waivers: (1) one is for the application submission and fees – the ANR was submitted with
the Comprehensive Permit and will not be filed under a separate application with separate fees;
(2) the second waiver is the review and decision process – that talks about submitting to the
Planning Board and how that happens, which will not happen because it is part of the
Comprehensive Permit; (3) the third waiver is the extension for the 21 days – that does not
apply under the Comprehensive Permit timeframe. The ANR Endorsement requires 21-day
action by the Planning Board. This ANR Endorsement will be by the Zoning Board of Appeals,
subject to the timeframes and deadlines that we are working on. She has noted in the column,
not to minimize anything, “no comment; it’s procedural in nature”.
The second page of the Staff Report calls out several waivers in the columns, so they are easily
identified by any reader. The first waiver is that any Building Permit issued by the Building
Department is for a plan and premise in use that complies with everything in the Zoning Bylaw.
Well, they wouldn’t be here with a Comprehensive Permit if they complied with everything in the
Zoning Bylaw. So again, “no comment; it’s procedural in nature”.
The second section talks about the Special Permit/Site Plan Review and the fact that is done
through the Planning Board. Again, we are not going to the Planning Board. So again, “no
comment; it’s procedural in nature”. The Zoning Board of Appeals is acting as the Special
Permit Granting Authority and Site Plan Review Entity under the Comprehensive Permit Law.
The third section talks about the Zoning Board of Appeals. In this particular case, you are the
Comprehensive Permit Granting Authority, and that is a procedural waiver.
Section 302 talks about uses and structures to comply with use requirements. Again this is not
applicable in this scenario; it’s “procedural in nature”.
Section 135-401 talks about the Permit Granting Authority; once again, the Zoning Board of
Appeals is the Comprehensive Permit Granting Authority; this is “procedural in nature”.
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Section 135-407, Variances, as this is a Comprehensive Permit, no Variances are required. Any
waivers and deviations from the Zoning Bylaw are granted through the Comprehensive Permit
by the Zoning Board of Appeals; this is “procedural in nature”.
Section 135-502, Site Plan Review Requirement, is not applicable; everything is reviewed
through the Comprehensive Permit; this is “procedural in nature”.
The same thing is applicable for Section 135-503, Special Permit Procedures; everything is
done through the Comprehensive Permit; Special Permits are not required; this is “procedural
in nature”.
Section 135-601, Table of Principal Uses, if we look at that table and you go to General
Business District, where this property is located in, multi-family properties require a Special
Permit; everything is done through the Comprehensive Permit; Special Permits are not required;
this is “procedural in nature”.
Section 135-613C talks about the Overlay District and the applicability of that and what permits
that might require. As this is done through the Comprehensive Permit, this is “procedural in
nature”.
Section 135-613D, Village Overlay District-Permitted Uses, Use Special Permit is applicable
given the General Business and the Village Overlay. Again, the Comprehensive Permit applies,
and that is “procedural in nature”.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi explains that is essentially the first two pages of the report; she
is going to skip the third page, which is a little beefier. Attorney Freeman touched on this in his
comments in the beginning. She doesn’t necessarily agree with the way that they are
interpreting the configuration of the property. She would like to discuss this matter with the
Building Inspector and follow-up with the Applicant.
For the most part they can skip page three, making a note there is one procedural waiver,
Section 135-613G, Village Overlay, which talks about the submission of materials and what is
required. Again, nothing separate is being filed. Everything is filed under the Comprehensive
Permit. Again, this is “procedural in nature”.
She will re-evaluate the waivers we skipped over based on any revisions to the plans and
discuss that with the Board at a later date.
Section 135-702A-3 and B, we have some buffer zones in our ordinance when you have certain
districts abutting other districts. In this particular case, it is General Business District abutting
Residence B, which requires a 10 foot buffer, and there are portions of the building and physical
improvements that are right up to the property line, including a retaining wall. The Assistant
Director advises that the Applicant has submitted a Landscaping Plan that hasn’t’ been
reviewed yet. When she gets a chance to take a look at that, she can give additional comments
to the Board.
The Assistant Director thinks we can skip over the rest of the page and wait for the revised
plans. A lot of these deal with the buffer zone and Section 135-705, which is the multi-family
section. Obviously, they are requesting some substantial waivers from that Section.
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Going to the middle of the fourth page, Section 135-711 B, C, D and E, these are the Site Plan
Review requirements for multi-family. There will not be a separate Site Plan Review under the
Comprehensive Permit.
Section 135-802 talks about the applicability of the parking requirements to the project, not the
specific ratios but stipulation in general. That is “procedural in nature”.
The last two on this page deal with parking and fire access, and she thinks we can circle back to
those at a later date.
Section 135-812B is the requirement to provide snow storage. The Assistant Director would like
to point something out for the record. The Applicant should put together a Snow Storage Plan
and present that, given the concerns by the Fire Department. Given the concerns about aisle
widths, the Snow Storage Plan is very important in all cases. She would like that to be submitted
in an extreme timely manner.
The Assistant Director states we can skip over the next few. They deal with landscaping interior
to the parking areas.
Halfway down the page, we have Section 135-815-1E, which is the stipulation that in the Village
Overlay District the Planning Board can institute a fee for lack of providing adequate parking
onsite. In this particular case, if something like that was to happen, it wouldn’t be the Planning
Board. It would be the Zoning Board of Appeals. That is a “procedural waiver”.
The last few sections relate to grading. Some of them are “procedural in nature” because they
talk about different timeframes that the grading needs to be complete. It talks about submitting a
separate Grading Permit. Again, all this is done under the Comprehensive Permit. Then, there
are the last few things on the grading section that need some waivers, but they are temporary
waivers for excavation.
The Applicant has requested this last waiver that talks about the set-backs. This was raised by a
member of the public at one of the last meetings. It says you have to be a certain distance from
the property line to cut and fill over a certain vertical distance, but then a few lines down in that
same section it says that can be waived if you put in a retaining wall. Using a wall at the
property line is suitable; grading your property in a steep slope into your neighbor’s isn’t
necessarily suitable. The Applicant is providing retaining walls along some of the property
boundaries; that is something we should look at in more detail.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi states essentially running through these, it is a lengthy
document with a lot of columns, but a lot of the items are because it is a Comprehensive Permit.
For the other items, she can see what we get for revised plans, see what comments are
addressed in the near future and this can be updated. She will also have the list for the
condominium development for the next meeting. You will probably expect to see the same
procedural waivers and maybe some different commentary about the dimensional waivers on
that particular side. For example, they are meeting the parking on that one. There are some
different waivers and applicability, given the design and scope of the project. Assistant Director
SantucciRozzi states, if there is anything in her document that the Board has significant
concerns about or something that they feel as though they would not be inclined to waive, that
should be discussed sooner than later. Chairman Karll thanks Assistant Director SantucciRozzi
for her hard work.
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Attorney Freeman thanks Assistant Director SantucciRozzi and states that was very helpful in
going through the document tonight in that fashion. Attorney Freeman advises that they will
work “offline” with staff, as the Assistant Director suggested, between now and December 2nd.
Chairman Karll thanks the Peer Review Consultant, Ron Muiller, for the work he did on behalf of
the Town.
Chairman Karll thanks the public for attending the meeting, and he urges them to attend the
next meeting on December 2, 2019.
Assistant Director SantucciRozzi states she has spoken to Mr. Holland’s representatives and
reminds that we need all the revised drainage plans submitted as soon as possible. She thinks
the Applicant is close to submitting those. We need to get those out to our Peer review
Consultant, Deb Keller, in order to give her adequate time to look at those, as well as the
Town’s Stormwater Manager, Cindy O’Connell. They are both eagerly awaiting receipt of those
materials. The Assistant Director’s plan is that those materials are submitted very soon, and we
can get our Peer Reviewer to take a look at those in advance of the December 2nd Meeting.
Chairman Karll concludes that the next meeting is December 2, 2019 at Town Hall, and he
urges the public to attend.
Attorney Carolyn Murray advises, with the holidays upcoming, you have December 2nd and
December 4th, which are your last two hearings on this matter before our current extension will
expire, unless there is a further extension. After that, we go into deliberation mode, and you only
have 40 days to deliberate. So, assuming we close out the public hearing on December 4th, then
our 40 days to deliberate, discuss, draft and approve a decision will bring us to January 13th,
and with a number of holidays between now and then, we might want to look at reserving a date
in December for deliberation purposes or in case there is a need for a modest extension.
Chairman Karll asks if we will have to ask the Applicant. Attorney Murray advises that if you are
just reserving a date for deliberation, it is within the Town’s purview. She mentions that we will
definitely know by December 2nd or 4th whether we are ready to close the public hearing or not.
Attorney Freeman mentions that Attorney Murray had courteously discussed this with him
before the meeting, and he is glad that she remembered to raise this issue. They had discussed
the date of December 16th, which the Applicant is available for. If it is convenient for the Zoning
Board, it does make great sense to schedule it as either deliberation or hearing, as determined
by Attorney Murray. Attorney Freeman feels we can at least establish that date. Attorney Murray
states, at this point, we should at least reserve it as a meeting date. Assistant Director
SantucciRozzi mentions that we have combed the Town for Conference Rooms and looked at
various schedules, and December 16th (looking at Mondays and Wednesdays) was the only day
that worked in December. We also have two dates in January during that 40 day period. The
second date is Monday, January 6th. There are three regular cases for the Zoning Board’s
regular meeting on December 16th, which can be heard first. Then, we would take up matters
related to the 40B hearings. Chairman Karll states that is fine with him. The Assistant Director
concludes that right now December 16th will be scheduled as a meeting, and we can determine
the mode of that meeting at our meetings on either December 2nd or 4th. Attorney Freeman
states that is fine. Chairman Karll’s request to the Applicant would be that perhaps an extension
would be helpful to everybody, especially in light of what the Fire Department discussed today.
Attorney Freeman is not saying “no”, but states since we are going to meet relatively quickly on
December 2nd, we can see if the Board feels we need an extension at that point. Attorney
Freeman states they are going to be reasonable about it and will address it on December 2nd.
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Member Ford MOTION to continue this 40B hearing to December 2, 2019; seconded by
Member McDonough; voted 3:0:0 (voting: Karll, Ford, McDonough).
The Board adjourned the meeting at 9:20 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Louise Quinlan
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Agenda
Department of Planning & Community Development
Zoning Board of Appeals
TOWN OF BRAINTREE
1 JFK Memorial Drive
Braintree, Massachusetts 02184
Joseph. C. Sullivan
Mayor
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Chairman Stephen Karll
MEETING AGENDA
Wednesday-November 20, 2019
Cahill Auditorium
7:00 PM
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
Comprehensive Permit Application (Chapter 40B) that includes an Approval Not Required Subdivision Plan from
383 Washington Street LLC. The Applicant is proposing to construct a 70-Unit Multi-Family Residential (Rental) “Parkside
Apartments” building along with associated drainage, utility, parking, access, landscaping and lighting improvements on a
proposed lot of 93,866 Square Feet. The properties at 383 Washington Street, Storrs Avenue and the way known as “Alves
Avenue” are all Zoned General Business within the Village Overlay District and are identified on Assessor’s Plan 2028 as
Plot 31 and 32-A.
Comprehensive Permit Application (Chapter 40B) that includes an Approval Not Required Subdivision Plan from
383 Washington Street LLC. The Applicant is proposing to construct eight (8) Townhouse Style Residential Units
(Ownership) “Parkside Condominiums” in two (2) buildings along with associated drainage, utility, parking, access,
landscaping and lighting improvements on a proposed lot of 20,327 Square Feet. The properties at 383 Washington Street,
Storrs Avenue and the way known as “Alves Avenue” are all Zoned General Business within the Village Overlay District and
are identified on Assessor’s Plan 2028 as Plot 31 and 32-A.
FUTURE 40B PUBLIC HEARING MEETING DATES:
Monday-December 2, 2019 and Wednesday-December 4, 2019
Reasonable accommodations will be provided for persons with disabilities. To request accommodations, please call Braintree’s ADA
Coordinator at 781-794-8327 at least seven business days in advance of the Meeting Date. Arrangements will be provided at no cost.
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