Environmental Committee & Ordinance Committee
Regular MeetingCanandaigua, NY · April 18, 2023
Minutes
MINUTES
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE & ORDIANCE COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 2023, 7:00 PM
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
HURLEY BUILDING, 205 SALTONSTALL STREET
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Environmental Committee: Karen White, Chair
Sim Covington, Jr.
Erich Dittmar
Renée Sutton
Other Councilmembers Present: Thomas Lyon
Ellen Polimeni
Steve Uebbing
Dan Unrath
Mayor Palumbo
City Staff: John Goodwin
David Hou
Chair White opened the meeting and read the Core Values. She reviewed the first agenda items.
Community Choice Aggregation (CCA). City Manager Goodwin reviewed, the City's third-
party administrator, Joule Assets, for the CCA program has proffered two agreements for review
and approval. The first is a proposed Electricity Supply Agreement between a TBD supplier,
Joule Assets and the City. The second agreement involves selections of the type of CCA we
would like to have for the re-start. As previously presented, the new CCA program is being bid
with options for a conventional electricity product, blended (50% NYS renewable supply); or
renewable (100% NYS renewable supply). It is also being bid with a fixed price or a variable
price. Shannon Bellamy, from Joule presented and reviewed agreement details. Councilmember
Sutton asked about what measures are in place to prevent what happened with the last supplier.
Shannon said that there will be contract requirements in place for protection, Councilmember
Sutton asked about the pricing options. Shannon said there were including all the potential
pricing options so they are able to get a better baseline for pricing. Councilmember Uebbing
asked about the options for the consumers. Shannon reviewed the details of the aggerate
purchase for customers and how they will have more advantages having the ability to reach out
to Joule for any issues or questions. Councilmember Sutton asked about the contract details.
City Manager said they can discuss the contract details tonight and would need to vote on the
contract on May 4th. Chair White reviewed the committees’ preferences. Councilmember
Ditmar would like to see 100% renewable. Councilmember Covington said that they need more
details on the variable rates before moving forward. Previously, we all 100% renewable from
the last agreement, said Mr. Goodwin. Shannon reviewed the pricing options. Councilmember
Sutton would like to see fixed rate and 100% renewable, Councilmember Uebbing agrees.
Councilmember Covington agrees with fixed and 100% renewable. Councilmember Sutton
moved to adopt the MOU with the terms fixed and 100% renewable rates, seconded by
Councilmember Covington. Unanimously passed and carried.
Chair White added an agenda item. Kevin Olvany, Watershed Program Manager presented on
the reasons behind purchasing a fluoroprobe to help with the blue/green algae. The purchase is
outside of the City’s procurement process since he nature of the purchase is that it is a sole
source purchase. This is the state standard for equipment and has only one vendor. City
Manager said that it has to be approved by City Council. Chair White asked if this is equipment
is surface only. Mr. Olvany said they would use this at depth and in conjunction with the Finger
Lakes Institute who has the same tool. They are able to collect the data on the blue/green algae
to communicate what is happening with the Lake. Councilmember Sutton asked why it took so
long to purchase as they approved the grant in 2018. Mr. Olvany said that it took more time than
originally planned. Once the grant was approved and signed in 2019. The terms changed
significantly. Councilmember Sutton motioned to approve the purchase fluoroprobe seconded
by Councilmember Ditmar. Councilmember Polimeni asked what are the time issues involved as
the grant has to be in by the 30th. Mr. Olvany said they just need an invoice dated ahead and
wanting to be consistent with the Cities purchasing policy. Mr. Goodwin is comfortable with
passing this tonight and have a resolution on May 4th. The motion passed unanimously.
Councilmembers present took a straw vote and all members present voted affirmative for this to
be on City Council’s agenda for May 4th meeting.
Chair White moved onto City Public Safety Boat. She said that she was following up on the
purchase as she felt it all moved very quickly. Mr. Goodwin said that they purchased the boat
and the trailer for $20,000, under the $30K planned purchase. Staff at our Central Garage did
some minor repairs, all under $2500.00 and graphics has been purchased $1300.00 to wrap the
boat. Adding lighting and adjustments to where the boat will be docked at the City Pier will be
next as hoist pricing were more expensive than planned. Mr. Goodwin noted and reviewed
where the boat will be stored. Mr. Goodwin noted that this boat will be used to fight potential
fires at the boathouses and water rescues, as we have not been able to do. The City has an
official duty to respond for calls and had 12 times where boats were commended to which our
insurance provider has said we can no longer due to the various risk and liabilities involved. Fire
Chief said that the boat will be a great tool for the City, accessible 24/7 and the discussed how
they respond to calls for service. County boat is used for patrols on the Lake and is not capable
of providing this level of service, they will help in responding to calls, but do not have the ability
to fight fire or help with any hazmat spills on the lake. Chair White expressed her deep
skepticism for the boat. Chief explained that this is a tool and this will not add additional staff.
Councilmember Uebbing said that he disagrees with Chair Whites comments and fully supports
having this Boat on the lake. He feels that it’s prudent to have this boat to respond to
emergencies and thanked the Chief for his time. Mayor Palumbo said that this has been a long
time coming and thanked Chief for his work on this and it’s very scary to think what would
happen without it. Councilmember Covington expressed how complex this issue is on both
sides. Councilmember Polimeni said that this issue has been coming up for the last 25 years with
the fire budget and every year it was cut until this past year. Chief said they worked very hard to
find the right opportunity to purchase. Councilmember Polimeni said as a lakeside community
we have to provide service. Chief noted that the County equipment does not have medical
capabilities and the City will be working with the County on these issues as they have been.
Councilmember Lyon remembers when a firefighter commandeering a boat to help in an
emergency and there were many issues when this happens, so it’s nice that the City will have this
ability. Chair White said that she got the information she needed. Ann Margaret Staley said that
summers are very busy on the Lake and feels it is a needed, the County is able to do patrol but
not having the medical service available. David Poteet, Park street said that as a trained nurse,
asked about fire staff’s training. Chief said that they are all trained on different kinds of water
issues and have used the Academy pool and at the lake to do their training and the majority of
the staff have been trained on water rescue issues. They David Poteet asked about the age of the
boat and the motor assuming the boat is closer to retiring. Chair White said that the boat is old
and outdated and will be a question for the new Council down the road. Steve Pfeffer, head of
the Central Garage for the City said that they have gone through the motors and very optimistic
in the for long term operation as the boat stands now. They are running fine at this point.
Chair White closed the meeting.
Ordinance Committee: Erich Dittmar, Chair
Sim Covington, Jr.
Renee Sutton
Karen White
Other Councilmembers Present: Thomas Lyon
Ellen Polimeni
Steve Uebbing
Dan Unrath
Mayor Palumbo
City Staff: John Goodwin
David Hou
Rick Brown
Chair Ditmar opened the meeting reviewing the first agenda items. Tree Advisory Board,
recommended Tree Removal Ordinance. Mr. Goodwin reviewed that about one year ago the
Tree Advisory Board (TAB) proposed that the City Council consider an ordinance that would
create some protection/regulations relative to trees located on private property. This came after a
tree was taken down on the corner of Main Street and Scotland Road. The City Council tasked
the TAB with outlining a draft ordinance for discussion. Over the year, the TAB has discussed
and debated various different ideas and reached consensus on an ordinance that would require
property owners to notify the City prior to removing a mature tree. Judy Cermack, Gibson
Street, reviewed the details and noted that Canandaigua is an official Tree City. This draft
ordinance that will help protect the historic trees. Dave Poteet, Park Street, said that TAB was
tasked a few months back to review this and the discussions have been lengthy. The committee
had to review both the historic and the regular district and the proposed guidelines will help
direct residents to speak with City on the condition of the trees in their yards. He feels they City
should adopt the guidelines from the US Interior Department and when the trees were removed
on Main/Scotland it really upset a lot of people. He noted that having the historic district more
protected by following the Interior Guidelines are ideal. Councilmember Sutton said that she
had hoped the ordinance would have strong language but understands the challenges the
committee has faced just wish it went further. Councilmember Polimeni said that the committee
reviewed other communities’ ordinance. City Manager said that they concern was protecting the
trees as well as property owners’ rights. It became very complex very quickly. Chair Ditmar
said that the ordinance does strike the right balance but would have liked to see more penalties.
Councilmember Sutton asked about cataloging the legacy trees and Judy said that yes there is
legacy tree file. There is still lots of work to do, Charlotte and Howell Streets, where the
Thompson’s planted. Councilmember Sutton said that she really appreciates the work the
committee has done and that everyone is in agreement that they would all like more to be done.
Mike Yarger said that this is just government overreach and said that if he purchases a property,
it is should be up to him what to do with it and not inform any one of his decision. Mayor
Palumbo asked what the process is if no one informs the City, asked about a fine, but if Code
Enforcement comes out and reviews and the owner still take the tree down. Mr. Goodwin said
that there is nothing to stop the owner for taking it down but hoping the ordinance will help start
a dialogue with the homeowner on options as the City does employ an arborist. Councilmember
Uebbing said that building a culture of preservation as opposed to mandating preservation, it will
be good thing and may have a lasting effect. City Manager said that the ordinances have the
standard language for fines. David Hou said that if the committee takes this forward, subsection
B will need to be reviewed for the historic districts. Councilmember Uebbing suggested
education for property owners on this issue. Councilmember Sutton asked if the City Arborist
could come and speak before voting. Chair Dittmar thanked the committee for their work and
this will be an ongoing issue.
Chair Dittmar reviewed the next agenda item, Mandatory Inspection of Water Service Lines at
Property Transfer. City Manager Goodwin explained the change from the EPA. Mr. Goodwin
explained, at the October 18, 2022 Ordinance Committee meeting, City Staff discussed how the
City protects residents and neighboring municipalities from exposure to lead with the utilization
of a corrosion control system to reduce lead levels in water by reducing the corrosion of the lead
service lines on. City Staff also informed the community that the United States Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA) adopted regulations to further control lead and copper in drinking
water and the New York State Department of Health has directed the City to replace lead
service lines in accordance with the EPA' s lead and copper rule. Part of this effort is
identifying/inventorying every water service line within the City's water distribution system. To
aide in with this endeavor, City Staff recommended a new ordinance that requires the inspection
and certification of the water service upon the transfer of property. Where the water service is
found to be composed of lead or galvanized metal, it must be replaced at the expense of the
homeowner prior to the transfer of property. The Committee requested that a draft ordinance be
presented at the January 17, 2023 which was done, but required some revision. Mayor Palumbo
asked about the license requirements for plumbers, since there are no licensed plumbers in the
City of Canandaigua. David Hou said that plumbers are licensed in the State of New York. Mr.
Hou said they can delete the language on licensing. The idea was making sure the person is
qualified and may need to discuss that language. Councilmember Sutton read that plumbers
must register with the State of New York and master plumbers must have a license. David Hou
said they could change the language. Using DBA doesn’t mean anything other than a filing
process and not a certification of quality. Code Enforcement may have a preferred list of
vendors for residents to contact. David Hou will revisit the section to try and find the right
language. Mick Yarger, owns a building on South Main Street, asked how the City would
determine the lead. City Manager said they have to know what the service line looks like and
have to pot hole work at the curb and review how it is connected to the main. This is a huge
unfunded mandate from the government and the proposed ordinance will help. The City is
responsible for the line from the main to the curb stop and typical street is from the curb to the
sidewalk. From the side walk to the property it is the home owner. if there is galvanized
gooseneck, that may require replacement. There is a lot of variables but anything that is from the
main to the curb stop the city is responsible for. The first part is the inventory and EPA is
mandating a certain percentage that needs to be replaced when the home is transferred. This is a
very complex issue. Chair Dittmar said that until these areas are better defined, not action will
be taken tonight.
Chair Ditmar moved onto Short Term Rental, at the Planning Committee meeting on April 4",
the City Council asked for a draft ordinance based upon the recommendations of the Planning
Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals for review and consideration. Rick Brown was
present and reviewed the draft and the map. Revisions of the definitions of short term, the
updated ordinance clarified the difference. The overlay district is new with the draft.
Councilmember Sutton has not changed her position and still disagrees with the proposed
changes as well as the overlay district and plans to vote no. She encourages the community to
come an express their concerns at the public hearing. Councilmember White is on the same page
as Councilmember Sutton. She feels that the current ordinances haven’t been well enforced.
She feels that this is too restrictive and feels the current ordinance is enough. Ryan ??? a
member of ZBA, disagrees with Councilmember White. They have been applying the law as it
has been written and passed by Council. They are reviewing on a case-by-case basis. He has
heard many people said that we are biased and that has not been the case. Councilmember
Uebbing asked about adopting the new ordinance that are currently in place outside the district,
Mr. Brown said that the issue would need to be looked at as it is outside the district with the
change proposed. The transfer of the permit is also a part of the language. Mr. Brown said
drafted the change so that the permit does not transfer with the property and the new owner
would need to reapply. This would ensure that all the licensing areas would be addressed with
the new owner. Council would still need to review what the new standards would involve. A
local resident, Brian spoke and asked about how Code Enforcement would investigate claims.
Mr. Brown said they regularly review Airbnb’s website and others to see if local houses are
listed who are without a permit. Councilmember Lyon said that there may be some concerns on
how the ordinance is written, on recourse and having more language that speaks to this will be
helpful. Having the renewal once the property transfer permit reapply will help navigate this
issue, Mr. Brown. Mayor asked about section 3 section A, a complete dwelling unit is a home to
differentiates between a B & B, Councilmember Uebbing said that this is complex and if it does
not go through ordnance it has to go back to Planning. Stan Taylor, Kennedy Street. what the
commission is asking for is assistance in clearing up some of the language of the original
ordinance and asking for help. Chair Ditmar isn’t in favor of the overlay but yes to the other
changes. Mr. Brown said that the other changes are in the ordinance may result in a change to a
section of the code. David Hou said that one of the issues is to eliminate the ZBA from the
process all together. There are ways to impose the changes that are looking to happen and Mr.
Hou can help structure the language as needed for the ordinance. Councilmember Sutton would
like to prevent short term rentals from corporations take over, the rest she approves of. She
thanked Stan for his comments. Mayor Palumbo thanked Ryan and Stan for their comments.
City Manager said they will scrap the overlay and make the other changes as recommended.
City Manager said that the moratorium is still in progress, and the moratorium is applied for
short term rentals in residential districts at the May 4th meeting. The moratorium can end if
needed ad reviewing the draft at the 4th will determine that. Chair Ditmar said hopefully this
feedback is helpful. Mr. Brown said that grandfather properties would need to be worked out as
well.
Chair Dittmar moved to close the meeting and moved into executive session to discuss the
employment of a particular person.
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