City Council
Regular MeetingCanton, OH · October 5, 2009
Minutes
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PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Canton City Council. It’s good
to see a nice crowd tonight. We appreciate you all being here, I know we have a lot of speakers from a number
of segments of our community but particularly, the neighborhood association, we welcome you as always. And
with a quorum being present, the Chair calls this meeting of Canton City Council to order. Roll call vote please,
Madame Clerk.
ROLL CALL TAKEN BY CLERK TIMBERLAKE:
11 COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT: (DON CASAR, DAVID DOUGHERTY, MARY CIRELLI, BILL
SMUCKLER, GREG HAWK, THOMAS WEST, JAMES GRIFFIN, CHRIS SMITH, PATRICK BARTON,
KARL “BUTCH” KRAUS & BRIAN HORNER)
ELEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: ONE ABSENT TERRY PRATER
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven present, one absent Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you Madame Clerk. Tonight, we’ll have the invocation given for the first time
by our new Council Member, Brian Horner. If you’ll all please stand and remain standing for the pledge of
allegiance.
The regular meeting of Canton City Council was held on Monday, October 5, 2009 at 7:30 P.M. in the
Canton City Council Chamber. The roll call was taken (see above) by Clerk of Council Cynthia Timberlake.
The invocation was given by Ward 9 Council Member, Brian Horner, the Pledge of Allegiance led by
President Schulman.
AGENDA CORRECTIONS & CHANGES
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you Member Horner. We are now under agenda corrections and changes
and Members of Council, you’re going to be asked to suspend Rule 22A to add the 2nd Reading Ordinances 3
through 8, Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we suspend Rule 22A and add Ordinances #3 through and
including #8 on to this evening’s agenda.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you. It’s been moved and seconded to suspend Rule 22A to add the Second
Reading Ordinances 3 through 8 to this evening’s agenda. Are there any remarks? Hearing none, Madame Clerk,
roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you Madame Clerk. The motion carries, Rule 22A is suspended and the
Ordinances are a legal part of your agenda.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We are now under Public Hearings and we have no Public Hearings this evening.
PUBLIC SPEAKS
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We’re now under Public Speaks on Ordinances and Resolutions for adoption.
We have no speakers signed up to speak this evening.
INFORMAL RESOLUTIONS
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We’re under Informal Resolutions. Leader Casar I will recognize a motion to
excuse Member Prater.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move that 5th Ward Council Person, Member Prater be excused from this
evening’s meeting.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded to excuse Member Prater from this evening’s
meeting. Are there any remarks? Hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: The motion carries, Member Prater is excused from this evening’s meeting.
COMMUNICATIONS
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We are now under Communications. Let the journal show that all
communications are received as read.
NOTE: ALL COMMUNICATIONS WHICH FOLLOW, LISTED BY AGENDA TITLE, ARE ON FILE
IN THEIR ENTIRETY IN THE COUNCIL OFFICE WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS FILE DATED
OCTOBER 5, 2009.
427. AUDITOR MALLONN: MONTHLY RPT BY FUND 9/1/09 - 9/30/09. - RECEIVED & FILED
428. AUDITOR MALLONN: YEARLY RPT BY FUND 1/1/09 - 9/30/09. - RECEIVED & FILED
429. DEPUTY DIRECTOR WEST: AUTHORIZE MAYOR &/OR SERV DIR TO ENTER INTO
CONTRACT W/DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROJECT, INC. UTILIZING EMER SHELTER GRANT
(ESG) FUNDS IN AMT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.00 & PROVIDE MATCH OF FUNDS IN AMT
OF $50,000.00 FOR PERIOD OF 1 YR RETRO FR: 1/1/09 - 12/31/09. - FINANCE COMMITTEE
430. DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TORRES: ESTABLISH FAIR REUSE VALUE OF PARCEL OF
REAL PROP & AUTHORIZING DISPOSITION OF SAID PROP (PARCEL #02-08872 ON 25TH ST
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NE TO WILLARD BOWLING). - COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
431. DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TORRES: ESTABLISH FAIR REUSE VALUE OF PARCEL OF
REAL PROP & AUTHORIZING DISPOSITION OF SAID PROP (PARCEL #02-03991 ON 5TH ST
NE TO RUBY HACKWORTH). - COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
432. DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TORRES: AUTHORIZE MAYOR TO SUBMIT/FILE W/HUD THE
2010 ANNUAL 1 YR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, EXECUTE GRANT AGMTS & ACCEPT 2010
COMM DEV BLOCK GRANT, 2010 HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROG, 2010 EMER
SHELTER GRANT; AUTHORIZE MAYOR TO REVISE &/OR AMEND CONSOLIDATED PLAN
& BUDGETS FOR CDBG, HOME, & ESG FOR PROG YR 1/1/10 - 12/31/10. - COMMUNITY &
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
433. LAW DIRECTOR MARTUCCIO: AUTHORIZE RPT OF ASSESSMENT EQUALIZATION BRD;
PROCEED W/IMPLEMENTATION PUBLIC SVC PLAN ADOPTED BY SID; ADOPT
ESTIMATED ASSESSMENT RESOLUTION OF NECESSITY & LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON LOTS
& LANDS. - JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
434. LIQUOR CONTROL DIVISION (OHIO): NOTIFY OF HRG ON 10/15/09 @ 3:00 PM FOR CHG OF
STOCK FOR KD CLUB MGMT INC DBA THE SPOT @ 2600 8TH ST NE & PATIO. - RECEIVED
& FILED
435. LIQUOR CONTROL DIVISION (OHIO): REQ NEW D1 LIQ PERMIT FOR TJMV INC DBA
PATAYA RESTAURANT @ 1122 30TH ST NE. - RECEIVED & FILED
436. SMUCKLER, B., CNCL-AT-LARGE: NAMING AN UNNAMED ALLEY SGT N CASEY PL. -
PUBLIC SAFETY & THOROUGHFARES COMMITTEE
ORDINANCES & FORMAL RESOLUTIONS FOR FIRST READING
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We’re now under Ordinances & Formal Resolutions for the first reading. Let the
journal show that all Ordinances are being given their reading as required by State law. Madame Clerk, would
you please read the first reading Ordinances by title.
NOTE: PRESIDENT SCHULMAN CALLED UPON CLERK TIMBERLAKE TO READ ORDINANCES
#1 THROUGH #2 FOR THE FIRST TIME BY TITLE & ANNOUNCED THE COMMITTEE
REFERRAL, AS FOLLOWS.
#1. (1ST RDG) AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS
AMENDED, BY MAKING THE APPROPRIATION REDUCTION AND
APPROPRIATION TRANSFER HEREIN DESCRIBED; AND DECLARING THE
SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY (AUDITOR)
Referred to Finance Committee
#2. (1ST RDG) AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS AMENDED BY
MAKING THE SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION HEREIN DESCRIBED; AND
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DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY (LOAN REPAYMENT FUND)
Referred to Finance Committee
ORDINANCES & FORMAL RESOLUTIONS FOR SECOND READING
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We’re now under Ordinances and Formal Resolutions for their second reading.
Madame Clerk will you please begin with Ordinance 3.
NOTE: PRESIDENT SCHULMAN CALLED UPON CLERK TIMBERLAKE TO READ ORDINANCES
#3 THROUGH AND INCLUDING O#8; FOR THEIR SECOND TIME BY TITLE AS REQUIRED BY
STATE LAW, AS FOLLOWS:
#3. (2ND RDG) AN ORDINANCE VACATING LINDESMITH COURT S.W. AND A PORTION OF
BORS COURT S.W.; APPROVING AND ACCEPTING THE REPLATTING OF
LOTS NOS. 15757, 15759 - 15766, PART OF LOT NO. 15756 AND THE TWO
VACATED PORTIONS; AND DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
(AULTMAN HOSPITAL) PUB HRG 10/19/09 @ 7:30 P.M.
#4. (2ND RDG) AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS
AMENDED, BY MAKING THE APPROPRIATION TRANSFER HEREIN
DESCRIBED; AND DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
(FEDERAL FORFEITURE FUND)
#5. (2ND RDG) AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO FILE AN APPLICATION
WITH THE U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY (EPA), EXECUTE A
COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH THE EPA AND ACCEPT $444,004.00 IN
BROWNFIELD STIMULUS FUNDS; AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER
INTO CONTRACT WITH STARK STATE COLLEGE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $375,559.00 AND GOODWILL INDUSTRIES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO
EXCEED $66,845.00 AS REQUIRED BY THE COOPERATION AGREEMENT;
AND DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
#6. (2ND RDG) AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS
AMENDED, BY MAKING THE APPROPRIATION TRANSFER HEREIN
DESCRIBED; AND DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY (HEALTH
& LIFE INS FUND)
#7. (2ND RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 192/2009 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING THE
SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION HEREIN DESCRIBED; AND DECLARING
THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY (PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE
FUND)
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we suspend the Statutory Rules on Ordinance #7.
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MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded to suspend the Statutory Rule for Ordinance #7.
Are there any remarks? Hearing none, Madame Clerk roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Motion carries, Leader Casar you’ve heard the three readings.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #7.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance #7. Are there any
remarks? Hearing none, Madame Clerk roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
#7 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 192/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #7 is adopted, Ordinance #8 please.
#8. (2ND RDG) AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS
AMENDED, BY MAKING THE APPROPRIATION TRANSFER HEREIN
DESCRIBED; AND DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY (SOLID
WASTE)
ORDINANCES & FORMAL RESOLUTIONS FOR THIRD AND FINAL READING
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We’re now under Ordinances and Formal Resolutions for their third and final
reading. Madame Clerk, would you please read Ordinance 9.
#9. (3RD RDG) RECONSIDERED & ADOPTED AS AMENDED AS ORDINANCE NO. 190/2009
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS
AMENDED, BY MAKING THE APPROPRIATION REDUCTIONS,
APPROPRIATION TRANSFERS; SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION AND
INTERFUND TRANSFERS HEREIN DESCRIBED; AND DECLARING THE SAME
TO BE AN EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we reconsider Ordinance #190/2009.
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MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you reconsider Ordinance 190/2009. Are
there any remarks? Hearing none Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: The motion carries, Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we amend Exhibit A by submitting the original Exhibit A with the
amended Exhibit attached hereto. We all have this copy that we received very late this evening, I hope
everyone had a chance to look at it.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
AMENDMENT:
Pursuant to Rule 41 and 36, I move to reconsider Ordinance No. 190/2009 and amend Exhibit A by
substituting the original Exhibit A with the amended Exhibit attached hereto.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded to amend Ordinance 190/2009 per Exhibit A, or
per the copy that is before each Council Member. Are there any remarks? All those in favor, signify by
saying aye. Those opposed no.
NO REMARKS AMENDMENT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY VOICE VOTE
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: The motion carries. Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President I move we adopt Ordinance #9 as amended.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 9 as amended, per
Exhibit A. Are there any remarks? Hearing none, now Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 9 RECONSIDERED & ADOPTED AS AMENDED AS ORDINANCE NO. 190/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #9 is adopted. Ordinance #10 please.
#10. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 193/2009 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
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APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE NO. 193/2008, AS AMENDED; AND DECLARING
THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY (AUDITOR)
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #10.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 10. Are there any
remarks under this Ordinance? Hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 10 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 193/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #10 is adopted. Ordinance #11 please.
#11. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 194/2009 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING
THE CITY OF CANTON TO ACCEPT DONATION OF REAL PROPERTY FROM
SAMUEL J. MAZE (PARCEL #02-10421 ON GLENDALE PL NE)
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #11.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 11. Are there any
remarks under this Ordinance? Hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 11 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 194/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #11 is adopted. Ordinance #12 please.
#12. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 195/2009 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING
THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO ACCEPT A GRANT FROM THE COPS
HIRING RECOVERY PROGRAM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED
$1,412,392.00; AND DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
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MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #12.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 12. Are there any
remarks under this Ordinance? Hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 12 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 195/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #12 is adopted. Ordinance #13 please.
#13. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS AMENDED AS ORDINANCE NO. 196/2009 AN ORDINANCE
AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO ACCEPT A GRANT
FROM THE 2009 EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL RECOVERY ACT
COMPETITIVE GRANT IN AN AMT NOT TO EXCEED $112,500.50; AND
DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #13.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 13. Are there any
remarks? Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we amend Ordinance 13 per the copy that all Council Members
have in their possession.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
AMENDMENT:
Pursuant to Rule 36, I move to amend Agenda Item No. 13 by substitution of the attached, revised
ordinance for the pending version.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that Ordinance #13 be amended per the copy
of...before each of you. Are there any remarks? Hearing none, by voice vote all those in favor of the
amendment, signify by saying aye, those opposed.
NO REMARKS AMENDMENT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY VOICE VOTE
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: The motion carries, the Ordinance is amended. Leader Casar.
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MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance 13 as amended.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 13 as amended. Are
there any remarks under this Ordinance as amended? Hearing none Madame Clerk roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
#13 ADOPTED AS AMENDED AS ORDINANCE NO. 196/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance 13 is adopted, Ordinance 14 Madame Clerk.
#14. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 197/2009 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING
THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO ACCEPT A GRANT FROM THE 2009
EDWARD BYRNE RECOVERY ACT GRANT LOCAL SOLICITATION IN AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $233,999.20; AMENDING ORDINANCE NO.
193/2008; THE AUDITOR IS AUTHORIZED TO ESTABLISH THE 2774 BYRNE
MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT 2009 FUND; AND DECLARING THE
SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #14.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded to adopt Ordinance 14. Any remarks under this
Ordinance? Hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 14 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 197/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #14 is adopted. Ordinance #15 please.
#15. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 198/2009 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING
THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO ACCEPT A GRANT FROM THE 2009
EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT REGULAR
SOLICITATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $157,112.20; AND
DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
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MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #15.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 15. Any remarks under
this Ordinance? Again, hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 15 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 198/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #15 is adopted. Ordinance #16 please.
#16. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 199/2009 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING
THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO ACCEPT A GRANT FROM THE 2009
EDWARD BYRNE RECOVERY ACT JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT IN AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $166,111.00; AND DECLARING THE SAME TO BE
AN EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #16.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 16. Are there any
remarks under this Ordinance?
MEMBER CIRELLI: Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Yes, Member Cirelli.
MEMBER CIRELLI: I would just like to say for the record that we’ve had here, one, two, three, four...four
Ordinances regarding an Edward Byrne Recovery Act Grant, totaling almost seven thousand.....ah...seven
hundred thousand dollars. This gentleman was an officer in New York City and he, unfortunately was killed
in the line of duty, he was only 22 years old. He took five bullets, he has two brothers that went on to become
officers also and it is something that has really, shows how something good can come out of something very
negative. And there is a park also named for him, and they’ve established that, it’s a several, almost a two
million dollar park. So these are things that can, communities garner in together and say we want to
acknowledge a person gave their life and there’s a lot of money that has flowed there and we have benefitted
from that. So I just wanted that on record sir. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you very much Member Cirelli. Any other remarks? Hearing none,
Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
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NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 16 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 199/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #16 is adopted. Ordinance #17 please.
#17. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 200/2009 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING PART
NINE - STREETS, UTILITIES AND PUBLIC SERVICES CODE, OF THE CODIFIED
ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF CANTON (COMPLY W/NAT’L POLLUTANT
DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM)
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #17.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 17. Any remarks under
this Ordinance? Again, hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 17 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 200/2009
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Ordinance #17 is adopted. Ordinance #18 please Madame Clerk.
#18. (3RD RDG) ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 201/2009 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING
THE CLERK OF COUNCIL TO CERTIFY TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR UNPAID
AND DELINQUENT CHARGES FOR WATER AND/OR SEWER SERVICES; AND
DECLARING THE SAME TO BE AN EMERGENCY
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Leader Casar.
MEMBER CASAR: Mr. President, I move we adopt Ordinance #18.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adopt Ordinance 18. Are there any
remarks under this Ordinance? Hearing none, Madame Clerk, roll call vote please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 11 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Eleven yeas, Mr. President.
# 18 ADOPTED AS ORDINANCE NO. 201/2009
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PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you Madame Clerk, Ordinance #18 is adopted.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We are now under Announcement of Committee meetings. Just so the public
understands, we will not be meeting next Monday, that is Columbus Day, it’s a Holiday. Some people will be
working, however. But we’ll be back on the 19th. So, with that Member Hawk, I know you’ll be working.
MEMBER HAWK: On Monday, October 19th the Finance Committee will meet at 6:15 P.M.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you very much. That’s it?
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Yep.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Okay.
PUBLIC SPEAKS (OPEN FORUM--CITY BUSINESS ONLY)
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: We’re now under Public Speaks, Open Forum. We always welcome our
speakers. I recognize a number of names who have addressed City Council and the Administration before
tonight. But for those who maybe new to the process, City Council has a rule that restricts Public Speaks to
three minutes, I’ll give you a little bit more time if necessary, I’m not that sticky on that. But nevertheless, if
you’ll try to keep your remarks to three minutes. And when you come up, if you’ll give us your name and
your residential address, we would appreciate it. So with that, our first...and by the way, there’ll be Members
of the Administration, Council Members will all be here after the meeting to address any further concerns that
anyone may have. So with that, our first speaker is John Swartz. Good evening sir, welcome as always. If
you’ll give us your name, for the record and your residential address.
JOHN SWARTZ: I’m John Swartz, I live at 239 Perry Drive, NW in...it’s not in the City but not long ago,
Charita in the Repository wrote an article saying we need cheerleaders in the City. Cheerleaders who will
really support the City and promote what the City really wants to promote. And I see these cheerleaders all
the time and recently, I belong to this preservation society, it costs me twenty dollars a year but they had an
article in here on what the City has done in terms of development and I thought that because we just hear these
little things every once in awhile about bringing money in and all that but this Joe, actually his outline what is
going on in terms of houses being destroyed, houses being built and I thought it was a wonderful thing. And
people need to see these, I call them cheerleaders, talking about what really has happened. And another one,
this is one I get in the mail, I just went down to the Chamber and they send out “Downtown Development.”
It’s a marvelous little thing, it’s a cheerleading document that has a thing on that same issue, our development
of housing and the destruction of housing. And I think one of the things is if you are aware of these things,
you realize so many things are going on you don’t hear about. And so, consequently, the naysayers will say
“there is nothing going on, the City is corrupt, it’s awful, it can’t do anything worth while” and you need to
see these people who point out wonderful things. Also, just one example, I go to all of the First Fridays and
you can see what’s happened since I’ve been here four years, you can in every block, something that’s going
on that’s been just a wonderful contribution to this City and that’s cheerleading to, going down there and
promoting these things that people are doing, they take great risks in these businesses, especially the restaurant
as you know. So, what we can do to cheerlead is support what they’re doing instead of naysaying and tearing
down the City for what it isn’t doing, support the City for all the wonderful things it does. And this is,
somebody years ago said to me, there was a fellow from Canton Township out to tell him not to get into the
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City and I just said something to him about, you know that the City is the heart of everything around here. It’s
what makes everything else happen. And the fella I was with, he was a really neat guy, he really just loved the
City and he said to the guy, he says “You know, why is it for instance that we call our football teams, Canton
South, North Canton, East Canton and it could have been New Berlin but they chose to call that City, North
Canton.” And that says something about what a wonderful place this is, they want to name their place after
that and yet sometimes they write an article in the paper tearing the place apart. So, I...again, my suggest is try
to be a cheerleader in anyway you can and promote these things that are cheerleading. That’s all I have to say.
Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you very much John. Thank you for those remarks. Our next speaker is
Silvia Allison. Ms. Allison, good evening and if you’ll give us your name and your residential please.
SILVIA ALLISON: Good evening, my name is Silvia Allison and I live at 1434 Lippert Rd NE, Canton. My
Neighborhood Association is Grace Operation and Development and I am member of the Neighborhood
Leadership Council and of N.A.V.E. I’d like to thank the City for supporting our neighborhood associations.
We have learned...we have applied what we have learned in the leadership classes and meetings, gathering
people to get involved to make this City a better place to work, live and to raise a family. I have personally
seen just how neighborhood associations can be of a help. When Nimisilla River flooded and was declared a
disaster, neighborhood associations stepped forward. Grace Operation and Development was there, Cook’s
Pond, the Salvation Army and the Old Timers, helped us work through the process of FEMA and I’m very
thankful. City Council, we need your help, our City has some serious problems, high unemployment, crime,
jobs are leaving, very few jobs are coming, our fire stations are being closed, firemen are laid off and some of
our parks are in despair, as Nimisilla. Our scores for our children in school are low and we are watching you,
we’re watching what you say and what you do and especially what you do. But we can make a difference in
this City by voting. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Silvia, would you stay right there one second. I want to thank you for coming
tonight and just congratulate and commend what you do. You’re on basically the front lines of our
neighborhoods and we appreciate all that you do and all that N.A.V.E. does and again, thank you for coming
down. We appreciate your hard work. Even if you don’t vote for me, I feel that way. (Laughter) Our next
speaker is Patricia Howard. Patricia, good evening, if you’ll come up and give us your name please and your
residential address.
PATRICIA HOWARD: Good evening, my name is Patricia Howard, I live at 1109 Melchor Pl, SW and I am a
member of the Southwest Association of Neighbors. SWAN has been instrumental in many efforts to beautify
and bring security to the southwest neighborhood. We have created wing space, preserved our historic
landmarks and we’re successful in closing down neighborhood nightclubs that engaged in disorderly conduct.
I would like to extend a heartfelt thanks to our Mayor, William Healy, Council President, Allen Schulman and
our esteemed Councilman for allowing me to speak tonight. In May of 2009, Mayor Healy and our Council
women...I’m sorry, woman, Dr. Chris Smith, accompanied leaders from SWAN on a neighborhood walk
thru’s to identify problem areas and discuss solutions to our neighborhood structural and safety issues. And
we would like to thank them for their willingness to help us address those problems. SWAN would also like
to thank our Building Code Inspectors, who have done a great job in fulfilling their goals, providing us with
the best customer service possible by joining us in neighborhood walk thru’s, taking photos of those vacant
houses and than have become an unsightly nuisance and later returning to inspect for demolition. So far this
year, only two homes have been demolished. This is a great start of the number of homes that are vacant and
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are becoming neglected nuisances in our neighborhood far exceeds that number. We’re quite excited about
the groundbreaking that began last year on the new Canton Federal Building. The Center is bounded by 3rd
Street SW, McKinley Avenue SW, 5th Street SW and High Avenue SW. And it will house the US Bankruptcy
Court, the US Trustees, the US Marshalls, the Social Security Administrations and the Internal Revenue
Service. This building is scheduled for completion in 2010. It is rumored that dignitaries such as Ralph
Regula, will be on hand to witness the dedication of this building which will do so much toward revitalizing
the southwest corner of downtown Canton. But this beautiful architectural structure will be impaired by a
scattering of less than attractive vacant structures, especially in the 5th and 6th area. We hope that the City of
Canton has a vision similar to ours, that they too envision a surrounding neighborhood for businessmen and
women who will be moving into this beautiful building will feel safe walking from their car to their offices,
where they will be able to relax and eat lunch at a nearby park and enjoy an attractive view in every direction.
We hope that the City of Canton sees the need for such a beautification plan and the urgency for completion.
Thank you again for your attention.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you. Thank you Ms. Howard and again thank you for everything that you
do on behalf of the community. Our next speaker is Geraldine Allen. Ms. Allen, if you’ll give us your name
and your residential address please.
GERALDINE ALLEN: Okay, my name is Geraldine Allen, I live at 205 Clarendon Ave NW, Apt 2. My topic
is the community policing. We’d like to thank...publically thank Sgt Fox and Patrolman Smith for attending
our neighborhood meeting. I’m president of the Fairgrounds Residential Neighborhood Association. They
shared with us some information about how we as neighbors can help the police do their job. He also
informed us that his department was very sparse in members, so they are doing a great job, even though there
are so few of them. We’d like to...our neighbor...my neighborhood association was one of the...was the
association responsible for getting community policing for the ribs burn off a couple years ago. And we’d like
to thank the police publically for taking care of the problems that may have happened and continuing to work
with..or work during the ribs burn off and other events that occur during the year at the fairgrounds. The weed
and seed program, of which the weed part I was informed the community police are working, they’ve done a
very good job of weeding out problems. I guess as a neighbor and a citizen of Canton, I’d like to have more
information about the seeding that is happening. I’ve been informed there has been some things happening
but the general public has no idea what is going on and what success they’ve been having or how the
neighborhood associations can help the police do their job. Because knowing that they have a limited staff of
people that anything that we as citizens can do to help promote the seeding part of the program. Also too, I
have a question about the non viable transportation, the segways that were publicized and I guess they have a
golf cart or something that are not very viable to use in the community to go about and help the community
policing. I feel that maybe they might need to come back with the bicycle patrols that they had a few years
ago. I noticed that there was an article in the paper the other day stating that they just did away with them
because of lack of police, the budget and everything, that I think that money would be better spent using the
bicycle patrols again if it would be possible. And if any of the community people can help with getting that
going, I think that that would be a great idea to start that again because the more visible people are and the
more visible neighbors are to other neighbors things will get better and we’ll be able, in every section of the
City, be able to help weed out and seed any activity that’s going on. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you very much and again, thank you for your civic pride and particularly
your passion for what you do. And I said, we’ll be around afterwards to discuss some of those very issues, I
know Member Hawk is very much involved with weed and seed and I know that Member Smuckler has been
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very active in community policing. So, they’ll be there to answer any questions. Our next speaker is Bev
Jordan. Bev, good evening and if you’ll tell us your name and your residential address please.
BEV JORDAN: My name is Beverly Jordan and I live at 7440 Cheryl NW in Massillon, Ohio, but my
business address however is1221 Harrisburg Rd NE.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: And good evening.
BEV JORDAN: Good evening, Honorable Mayor and Cabinet, Council President and Council Members.
Greetings from City folks for Cook’s Pond, Stark Social Workers’ Network and our community and
neighborhood at large. There are issues in our community that dictate that N.A.V.E. becomes a change agent.
Nobody knows better than those who live in our neighborhoods what needs to be done. Often times, there are
agencies, politicians and would be politicians that reach out to our associations for support. We are here today
to thank you for what you do, to encourage you to be bolder in your vision, to challenge you to take
unprecedented but fruitful risks but most of all to hear us, to support us and to represent us. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Again Bev, thank you for all that you do. Our next speaker is Brenda
Kimbrough. Ms. Kimbrough, if you’ll step forward and give us your name and residential address. And by
the way, I really like how you’ve all stayed on a different topic, or you’ve brought up a different topic, it’s
really helpful. Good evening.
BRENDA KIMBROUGH: Good evening, I’m Brenda Kimbrough, I live at 902 Lippert Avenue, Lippert
Road, NE. And I’m with CANDO Neighborhood Association. Hi, neighbors. We’re bringing you a greeting
from the N.A.V.E. Association and I would like to give a few kudos to those things that have happened this
year. I’d like to thank you the City for the neighborhood cleanups. I hope that you don’t stop that, as it’s been
a blessing to all of us. I know all our neighborhood associations have helped having the City come out and
doing great things in our neighborhood. Nice people live in our City, we don’t hear too much of that. So,
there are some good things going on, it’s not all gloom and doom. We’re here to support you as a City and as
the N.A.V.E. Association, we want to see great things happen, we want you to look good and we want to help
you look good, that’s what we’re here for. So, and first of all, I want to say thank you for the First Friday
activities, we also enjoy those items, it is a chance for the City to come back and notice. The City does good
thing and we wanted you to know that we, as members of the City, notice this and are happy to participate in
it. Also, in my neighborhood on 7th Street, of course we had had a rough time on 7th Street and the bad press
we’ve had, I thank God for that opportunity that those things are turning around, that we have had some
houses torn down, we’ve had some houses built up, we’ve had some things taken care of and it’s looking a lot
better. We haven’t arrived yet but we’re on our way to greater and better things. We believe that if everyone
will reach one, we can make it a better City. And thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: This is actually fun tonight, thank you very much. We may ask you to come up
and give us your speech again. (Laughter) Our next speaker is Marci Zawacky, Marci if you’ll step forward,
and I hope I’ve pronounced your name correctly. Did I get your name wrong again? I’m sorry, would you tell
me your name and residential address again.
MARCI ZAWACKY: It’s Marci Zawacky....
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: I mean, you only live right in my neighborhood, so....
MARCI ZAWACKY: Right, right and I live at 2831 Harrison Avenue NW.
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PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Good evening.
MARCI ZAWACKY: And good evening to the Mayor and to the Council and I appreciate the fact that we can
be here and speak. And I am getting a...really enjoying the upbeat messages. So, I figure I’ll come and rain on
the parade here.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Our next speaker than is...(Laughter) You know I’m just kidding.
MARCI ZAWACKY: Um...the beginning of September, God bless Charita Goshay, she is excellent,
somebody should give her an award. She writes about Mike Rukavina, who is a longtime landlord here in
Canton and how he talks about the fact that the City of Canton needs to have a grand plan for the housing.
Now Mayor and I have talked about this a little bit before but I thought that it would be an opportune moment
to come and talk to you all tonight about the idea that just because industry business moves away, just because
our tax base drops down, doesn’t mean that we have to have a City, a dismal City, okay. If we have a plan and
we can keep quality neighborhoods, okay, and we can still be attractive to people moving in and part of that
plan would be, one of the things that happened when Canton was first built, it started out with thirty feet wide
properties, certainly I would think an urgency would be in those neighborhoods. If there’s a house that’s been
abandoned and it’s deteriorating, that we would tear that down and than we would share half of that property
with each neighbor on each side and we’d have more green space. So that’s, to me, an easy way to kinda pick
the neighborhood up. But I guess the other thing would be for Council and the neighborhoods maybe to all
get together and actually plan, you know, what would help their neighborhoods, if we had the walk thru’s and
stuff like that, you know, we could actually spot opportunities, okay. So, I think this article has a really really
good suggestion. I think that one of the things we can do is keep our Stark County tax base up by keeping the
properties up better, okay, by eliminating eyesores, that kind of thing. So, that’s what I’m here, I want
everyone to hear it because I want them to think about it. And certainly, I...you know...I don’t...I don’t know
where we want start as far as the plan goes but I think that’s really important. So that’s what I’m here for
tonight. I hope that wasn’t too much rain. (Laughter)
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you. That was like a passing shower, that was not bad at all. Thank you
very much, I would also recommend by the way, you know, the MIT Team came in and it has an outstanding
report, I know the Mayor is trying to follow a lot of their recommendations. But it was basically how to
revitalize our neighborhoods. And I recommend each of you, if you haven’t read it, it’s good reading and I
know we’re trying to accomplish those things. Our next speaker is Patricia Kirk. Ms. Kirk needs no real
introduction, but if you’ll step forward and give us your name and your residential address. And good
evening, it’s good to see you.
PATRICIA KIRK: Good evening, my name is Patricia Kirk, I’m president of Downtown Central
Neighborhood Association and I live at 131 5th St NE. One of our neighborhood leadership councils, we
actually tried to think of a solution for Canton when it has to do about crime. I have two suggestions and one
question. Our main point that we came up with, crimes, drugs and jobs stem from uninformed information
that is not shared from the neighbors in the neighborhood with the police. So, what can we do to correct this?
Suggestion number one, we need more neighborhood association collaboration with police officers, how can
we do this? Neighborhood associations can develop a relationship with officers by inviting them to
neighborhood meetings. I have a question, as I told you, I’m president of Downtown Central Neighborhood
Association, right in the middle of downtown here where the First Fridays are and the festivals are and
different things are always going on. Now I am aware that there is a curfew for teens at different times during
the year, what about a curfew for adults that are being unruly? It’s not just teens that can be really unruly,
sometimes it’s us, the enemy is us. But, is there a way that we can have a curfew for adults that are creating a
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disturbance? Okay, I didn’t want to repeat anything that was said previously but those are my suggestions and
my question. Thank you very much.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Our next speaker is Ida Ross-Freeman. Isn’t that...oh, there you are.
IDA ROSS-FREEMAN: Good evening.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Good evening.
IDA ROSS-FREEMAN: Mayor and Cabinet, my name is Ida Ross-Freeman, I live at 1129 7th St NW in
Canton, Ohio. Notice I said Canton, Ohio. People in New York when I go there always laugh at me because,
you know, they say “Why do you say it that way?” I say “Because, it’s Canton, Ohio.” Anyway, you get the
attitude with that? (Laughter) Anyway, I am a member of the SUN Neighborhood Group and we would like to
see....I have two comments and they’re kind of diverse in their thought because they were written by two
different people and they’re not here. So, we would like to see the City and the School Board collaborate
more because one does effect the other. When the family decide to move into our City, they search how the
schools are and they search on the safety, or the crimes in the community. And my next one is, we would ask
the City to partner more with social service agencies to be more inclusive in their planning to better serve their
constituents who are in need of extra help. I guess what I’m looking for again is some type of community plan
for the City, the school, social service and housing. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you very much. And our last speaker, saving the, being real patronizing,
save the best for last, Veronica Callahan. You know I’m just.....if you’ll come up and give us your name and
residential address.
VERONICA CALLAHAN: My name is Veronica Callahan and I do reside at 3406 34th St NE in the City of
Canton. Mayor Healy, President Schulman and all of City Council, you know my first off is everybody from
N.A.V.E. please stand up, if you were invited my N.A.V.E. or if you are a member of N.A.V.E. stand up.
(Applause) I have to thank all my partners this year, if you guys haven’t noticed, we had some new people that
stood up and as the president of N.A.V.E., some folks have never spoken before in public, some people had a
really difficult time but you guys were awesome. And collectively I’d like to send this up and say that yes I’m
the President of N.A.V.E. and besides the one year that I stepped out for a year, I’ve been involved in this
group for ten years. And guys, I guess you wouldn’t guess it but, I’m probably one of the youngest people in
this room. So, what....you want me to tell you how old I am? Cause I’ll tell it.....no, um...I’m still not in my
forties, put it that way. But I want you to give some serious consideration, seriously, some of us have worked
together, some of us have challenged each other, whether it be in politics, whether it be at your kitchen table,
at our kitchen tables, we don’t always see eye to eye you guys. We all come from different backgrounds,
some of us from the streets, some of us from the crack house, some of us from the prostitution houses, some
of us from the church houses, some of us actually have been to college in this community. But it is a new day,
I know all of you have heard about that child up in Chicago that has been beaten to death just because he was
walking up the street. It’s already in Canton, it’s been here, we have a serious group of people from all walks
of life. Take in consideration, Mr. Fisher, who passed this weekend, I get emotional because see my father
was dead since I was five, so when I hit the streets of Canton, I didn’t have anybody to say “Let me take you
by the hand, let me show you how to do.” I may have a heart to do, just as this group of people does and the
people we represent but I want to challenge you to go get somebody, not your buddy’s child, not your sister’s
child, not your neighbor’s child, come out on 5th Street, come out on 6th Street. The schools have taken major
cuts, there’s no more shadowing, remember how the kids used to go to s...to work or somewhere where
someone watch them? One of the best ways that we can give back is so that in our neighborhoods, and I’m
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saying this as a collective group, us people don’t look like you people and we look like somebody that we can
achieve, okay. So, in 2009 and wrapping in and going into 2010, I personally challenge you. See, I’m doing
what I can do and I do my part just as every person in this room does, but we need to see your faces, it’s
beautiful to do the beatifications, it’s great to do the neighborhood cleanups. The stimulus money is here, it’s
doing a wonderful job with the economic development. But I said it fifteen years ago and I’ll say it again, if
you don’t help us, we will destroy this City. Guess what, I have a child in the penitentiary now because he
did, not because he wasn’t raised. But I’m telling you that publically because I’m serious. I’m a young lady
and I’m willing to keep on fighting. But we need each and everyone of you in this room, not just at election
time, don’t just come and hand us a stack of pamphlets, but we need you to get for real. I get tired of seeing
this and I’m gonna wrap this up cause I know I’m at my time limit but I’m closing us out on a good note. I
hate to see when politics are running, and politicians are running, every church is filled but when do you come
back? The church and the community service providers is where it’s at you guys. So, you’re doing an
excellent job with economic development, probably the lead City around this nation. But I challenge you to
get behind these churches and these social services because it’s the grass roots. When we sit in our offices,
and many of you got my open house card and it’s not about me but I’m making a point, I get calls everyday.
My moms on drugs, this happened, this person was rapped, we can’t find a job, we need social service
providers that are grass root level that can help these families. So, we’re saying to you, we’re here, it’s not
your job but we do need your help to help open doors to make these services available in our community just
like we’re doing economic development, we got to reach the other social ills, okay. So, with that I say, thank
you for your attention. You always have been good to us here and is the door gonna be unlocked when we
leave. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Well, that was great. Thank you, all of you for coming down and again thank
you for your civic dedication, you really do make a difference and we do listen to you.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Our next item on the agenda is Miscellaneous Business. Is there any? Member
Cirelli, anything? Nope.
MEMBER SMITH: Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Yes, Member Smith.
MEMBER SMITH: I have an announcement and this announcement is for the City. The Canton Negro
Oldtimers and the Canton Negro Oldtimers Ladies Auxilary will be hosting their first community trick or treat
and that’s going to be held October 25, 2009 at the Southeast Community Center. The time will be 3 till 5
P.M. Now, here’s where we need the support of the City, Elected Officials, those running in the November
election and any other neighborhood associations. We need everyone to get involved, set up your own candy
booth. And I have the information where you can sign up and what we want to do is have the kids just to go
through the center and stop at different booths to pick up their candy. So, we need everybody’s support, if you
need more information I will be here after Council so that we can talk about it. Please get involved and help
the children trick or treat.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you Member Smith, very much. Any other Miscellaneous Business?
MEMBER GRIFFIN: Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Member Griffin.
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MEMBER GRIFFIN: Yes, I’m here on behalf of the Canton Preservation Society and they asked me to head
up the neighborhood section committee. What we’re asking to do to try to achieve is that every neighborhood
and every section of Canton has history, whether it be the coin center, Cook Park, Nimisilla Park, over in my
area, Mellett Homestead and Harter Heights and Timken Addition, we’re trying to get information together on
these various quadrants of the City and we need your help because you’re out among the community. And
you know, I’m a west sider, I don’t know that much about the different neighborhoods on the east side. But
we’re trying to get it headed up, I’m gonna need some information on, well Mellett Homes for example and
Harter Heights and the Timken Addition. But if you’d come and help us, we have a librarian, we have a
library and there maybe information there that you can work on and that. But if you want to talk to me
afterwards, I’d be more than happy to talk to you. And if you’d be interested in joining the Preservation
Society, like John said, it’s only twenty dollars a year and it’s a very interesting project. And they have the
Hawthorne House out on Wertz Avenue and it’s an interesting thing. So, that’s all I’d like to say. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you Jim.
MEMBER WEST: Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Member West.
MEMBER WEST: Yes, Member Griffin, our historian for the Nimisilla Park Committee is back there, Kenny
Ash, he knows everything about that park and that whole northeast section and can tell you, verbatim, so you
might want to get with him. But thank you for that...that piece and notification.
MEMBER GRIFFIN: I’ll talked to Kenny and yeah, get some information.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: And I think you wanted me to mention the 5th Annual N.A.V.E., I think all of us
know about this, it’s the celebration and educational forum, it’s October 12th at the Canton Memorial Civic
Center, it’s great. Refreshments free, which is very good. Local issues and candidates and information booths
for Canton neighborhood associations, we’re gonna...I think we’re all gonna try to make it obviously but we
appreciate again, you’re hard work. Member West...you’re done Member West? I’m sorry. Mayor Healy.
MAYOR HEALY: Thank you Mr. President. And to the N.A.V.E. group I just want to thank you all for being
here and you know I have to do this, hi neighbor.
N.A.V.E.: Hi neighbor.
MAYOR HEALY: I love that. I just want to tell you how much I appreciate you coming down here today and
sharing with us your thoughts and your ideas and your energy and excitement about the community. Your
ratings of things that you think are going well and things that aren’t going so well to help us keep our finger on
the pulse of our City. I’ve told you all this many times that I believe you are the true leaders of our
community and you’re the ones whose gonna turn this City around. And all’s we are here is to help you with
the resources and to help you take those ideas that can handle the local level to carry those at the bigger level
and make your wishes and dreams come true for our community. Thank you for all that you do. In reference
to a few of the comments that were made, I have offered at your meetings, as well as to all the Council
Members, that I am available as well as our team for those neighborhood walk thru’s. We’re not just walking
through because we want to be seen walking down the streets, we’re writing down information, we’re...we
have the Building Code with us, the Health Department with us, the Police with us, we’re looking for those
issues that need to be addressed. We’re putting them at the top of the list and we’re addressing them. And for
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those members who’ve had us in your Wards and your neighborhoods, hopefully you’re seeing the results that
you’re expecting when we come through there. If we’re not on the agenda, call our office, get on the agenda,
we’re gonna walk as long as the weather permits, which means we can get into probably mid November,
maybe later if the weather holds out. Once it gets too cold for you to be out there with me, I’ll stop coming
and than we’ll come back in the Spring when the weather warms up again. Also, in reference to the comments
on addressing issues with partnering more with the School Board and working together with the community, I
can tell you that our Community Development office is doing just that and we’re creating those partnerships
and those relationships and we’re doing everything we can to strengthen those bonds that help us address the
community issues. And just a snippet that’s coming up on Wednesday....Wednesday evening, there is going to
be a...an event at the Civic Center that is going to be a college fair, I’m not sure exactly the name of it but
essentially colleges from all over, I think over one hundred different colleges and universities are going to be
there to promote their schools to the community to the students and adults who have interest in going back to
school to promote that. And we will be there, the Administration will be there with an announcement on
some collaboration we’ve done with some of the local universities. So, that’s going to be exciting and we
hope that you’ll be able to stop out there and see what’s going on. But we’re doing those things that you
recommend, we understand that you’re voice is the one that we want to hear, we appreciate it. Thank you so
much for being here and have a great evening. Thank you.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Thank you Mayor. Member Dougherty.
MEMBER DOUGHERTY: Mr. President. I move we adjourn.
MEMBER CIRELLI: Seconded.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: It’s been moved and seconded that you adjourn. Madame Clerk roll call vote
please.
NO REMARKS ROLL CALL: 10 YEAS, 0 NAYS
CLERK TIMBERLAKE: Ten yeas, Mr. President.
PRESIDENT SCHULMAN: Meeting is adjourned. Thank you ladies and gentlemen. (Gavel falls)
ADJOURNMENT TIME: 8:33 P.M.
ATTEST: APPROVED:
CYNTHIA TIMBERLAKE ALLEN SCHULMAN
CLERK OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT
Agenda
FINAL
AGENDA
CANTON CITY COUNCIL 7:30 PM OCTOBER 5, 2009
ROLL CALL: Eleven Mem bers Present, One Absent (Mem ber Prater)
INVOCATION: Brian Horner, W ard 9 Council Mem ber
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Led by President Allen Schulm an
AGENDA CORRECTIONS & CHANGES: (Suspended Rule 22A to add 2 nd Rdg O#3 - O#8; O#7 Adopted on 2 nd Rdg; O#9
(190/2009) Reconsidered & Adopted as Am ended; O#13 Adopted as Am ended)
PUBLIC HEARINGS: (None)
PUBLIC SPEAKS (ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS FOR ADOPTION ONLY): (None)
INFORM AL RESOLUTIONS:
MAJORITY LEADER DON CASAR: EXCUSING MEMBERS: MEMBER PRATER
COM M UNICATIONS:
427. AUDITOR MALLONN: MONTHLY RPT BY FUND 9/1/09 - 9/30/09. - RECEIVED & FILED
428. AUDITOR MALLONN: YEARLY RPT BY FUND 1/1/09 - 9/30/09. - RECEIVED & FILED
429. DEPUTY DIRECTOR W EST: AUTHORIZE MAYOR &/OR SERV DIR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT
W /DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROJECT, INC. UTILIZING EMER
SHELTER GRANT (ESG) FUNDS IN AMT NOT TO EXCEED
$50,000.00 & PROVIDE MATCH OF FUNDS IN AMT OF $50,000.00
FOR PERIOD OF 1 YR RETRO FR: 1/1/09 - 12/31/09. - FINANCE
COMMITTEE
430. DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TORRES: ESTABLISH FAIR REUSE VALUE OF PARCEL OF REAL PROP &
AUTHORIZING DISPOSITION OF SAID PROP (PARCEL #02-08872
ON 25 TH ST NE TO W ILLARD BOW LING). - COMMUNITY &
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
431. DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TORRES: ESTABLISH FAIR REUSE VALUE OF PARCEL OF REAL PROP &
AUTHORIZING DISPOSITION OF SAID PROP (PARCEL #02-03991
ON 5 TH ST NE TO RUBY HACKW ORTH). - COMMUNITY &
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
432. DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TORRES: AUTHORIZE MAYOR TO SUBMIT/FILE W /HUD THE 2010 ANNUAL 1
YR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, EXECUTE GRANT AGMTS & ACCEPT
2010 COMM DEV BLOCK GRANT, 2010 HOME INVESTMENT
PARTNERSHIP PROG, 2010 EMER SHELTER GRANT; AUTHORIZE
MAYOR TO REVISE &/OR AMEND CONSOLIDATED PLAN &
BUDGETS FOR CDBG, HOME, & ESG FOR PROG YR 1/1/10 -
12/31/10. - COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
COMMITTEE
433. LAW DIRECTOR MARTUCCIO: AUTHORIZE RPT OF ASSESSMENT EQUALIZATION BRD;
PROCEED W /IMPLEMENTATION PUBLIC SVC PLAN ADOPTED BY
SID; ADOPT ESTIMATED ASSESSMENT RESOLUTION OF
NECESSITY & LEVY ASSESSMENTS ON LOTS & LANDS. -
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
434. LIQUOR CONTROL DIVISION (OHIO): NOTIFY OF HRG ON 10/15/09 @ 3:00 PM FOR CHG OF STOCK
FOR KD CLUB MGMT INC DBA THE SPOT @ 2600 8 TH ST NE &
PATIO. - RECEIVED & FILED
435. LIQUOR CONTROL DIVISION (OHIO): REQ NEW D1 LIQ PERMIT FOR TJMV INC DBA PATAYA
RESTAURANT @ 1122 30 TH ST NE. - RECEIVED & FILED
436. SMUCKLER, B., CNCL-AT-LARGE: NAMING AN UNNAMED ALLEY SGT N CASEY PL. - PUBLIC
SAFETY & THOROUGHFARES COMMITTEE
ORDINANCES & FORM AL RESOLUTIONS FOR FIRST READING:
1 ST RDG 1. AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING VARIOUS APPROP REDUCTIONS &
APPROP TRANSFER; EMERGENCY (AUDITOR)
Referred to Finance Com m ittee
1 ST RDG 2. AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING $8.01 SUPP APPROP FROM UNAPPROP
BAL 2232 108 GUARANTEED LOAN REPAYMENT FUND TO 2232 50-60-01 COMM DEV ADMIN -
OTHER; EMERGENCY
Referred to Finance Com m ittee
ORDINANCES & FORM AL RESOLUTIONS FOR SECOND READING:
(SUSPENDED RULE 22A TO ADD O#3 - O#8; O#7 ADOPTED ON 2 ND RDG)
2 ND RDG 3. RETAINED IN CM TE 9/28/09 VACATE LINDESMITH CT SW & PORTION OF BORS CT SW ; APPROVE &
ACCEPT REPLAT OF LOTS #15757, 15759 - 15766, PART OF LOT #15756 & THE TW O VACATED
PORTIONS; EMERGENCY(AULTMAN) (PS&T) PUB HRG 10/19/09 @ 7:30 PM
CANTON CITY COUNCIL AGENDA - PAGE 2 - OCTOBER 5, 2009
ORDINANCES & FORM AL RESOLUTIONS FOR SECOND READING CONTINUED:
2 ND RDG 4. RETAINED IN CM TE 9/28/09 AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING $200,000.00
APPROP TRANSFER FROM 2760 101001 FED FORFEITURE FUND - OTHER TO 2760 102000 FED
FORFEITURE FUND - OTHER; EMERGENCY (JUD & FIN)
2 ND RDG 5. AUTHORIZE MAYOR TO FILE APPLICATION W /THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY,
EXECUTE A COOP AGMT W /THE EPA & ACCEPT $444,004.00 IN BROW NFIELD STIMULUS FUNDS;
AUTHORIZE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT W /STARK STATE COLLEGE IN AMT NOT TO
EXCEED $375,559.00 & GOODW ILL IND IN AMT NOT TO EXCEED $66,845.00 AS REQ BY THE COOP
AGMT; EMERGENCY (C&ED & FIN)
2 ND RDG 6. AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING $1,151,591.81 APPROP TRANSFER FROM
UNAPPROP BAL OF 6017 HEALTH & LIFE INS FUND TO 6017 201001 SVC DIR ADMIN PERSONNEL
SVC; EMERGENCY (FIN)
192/2009 7. AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING $370,000.00 SUPP APPROP FROM UNAPP
BAL OF THE 2328 PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE FUND; EMERGENCY (FIN)
2 ND RDG 8. AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING $2,771.81 APPROP TRANSFER FROM 2354
SOLID W ASTE - OTHER TO 2354 SOLID W ASTE - PERSONNEL; EMERGENCY (FIN)
ORDINANCES & FORM AL RESOLUTIONS FOR THIRD/FINAL READING & VOTE:
RECONSIDERED & AM ENDED
190/2009 9. O#190/2009 FROM 9/28/09 AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING VARIOUS
APPROP REDUCTIONS, APPROP TRANSFERS, SUPP APPROP & INTERFUND TRANSFERS;
EMERGENCY
193/2009 10. AMEND APPROP O#193/2008, AS AMENDED, BY MAKING APPROP REDUCTIONS & APPROP
TRANSFER; EMERGENCY (AUDITOR)
194/2009 11. AUTHORIZE CITY OF CANTON TO ACCEPT DONATION OF REAL PROPERTY FROM SAMUEL J
MAZE (PARCEL #02-10421 ON GLENDALE PL NE)
195/2009 12. AUTHORIZE SAF DIR TO ACCEPT GRANT FROM COPS HIRING RECOVERY PROG IN AMT NOT TO
EXCEED $1,412,392.00; EMERGENCY
AM ENDED
196/2009 13. AUTHORIZE SAF DIR TO ACCEPT GRANT FROM 2009 EDW ARD BYRNE MEMORIAL RECOVERY ACT
COMPETITIVE GRANT IN AMT NOT TO EXCEED $112,500.50; EMERGENCY
197/2009 14. AUTHORIZE SAF DIR TO ACCEPT GRANT FROM 2009 EDW ARD BYRNE RECOVERY ACT GRANT
LOCAL SOLICITATION IN AMT NOT TO EXCEED $233,999.20; AMEND O#193/2008; AUTHORIZE
AUDITOR TO ESTABLISH 2774 BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT 2009 FUND;
EMERGENCY
198/2009 15. AUTHORIZE SAF DIR TO ACCEPT GRANT FROM 2009 EDW ARD BYRNE MEMORIAL JUSTICE
ASSISTANCE GRANT REGULAR SOLICITATION IN AMT NOT TO EXCEED $157,112.20; EMERGENCY
199/2009 16. AUTHORIZE SAF DIR TO ACCEPT GRANT FROM 2009 EDW ARD BYRNE RECOVERY ACT JUSTICE
ASSISTANCE GRANT IN AMT NOT TO EXCEED $166,111.00; EMERGENCY
200/2009 17. AMEND PART NINE - STREETS, UTILITIES & PUBLIC SVCS CODE, OF CODIFIED ORDINANCES (TO
COMPLY W /NAT’L POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM)
201/2009 18. AUTHORIZE CLERK OF COUNCIL TO CERTIFY TO COUNTY AUDITOR UNPAID & DELINQUENT
CHRGS FOR W ATER &/OR SEW ER SVCS; EMERGENCY
ANNOUNCEM ENT OF COM M ITTEE M EETINGS:
M ONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2009 in Council Caucus @ 6:45 P.M .
1) Finance Com m ittee
PUBLIC SPEAKS: John Swartz prom oting cheerleaders for the city. Mem bers of the Preservation Society talking about the
hom es that are going up and down in the city and the developm ent of our city. He com m ended First Friday events and wants
to let people know that there are wonderful things going on in our city not just corruption and destruction. He requests all
people to becom e cheerleaders for Canton. Sylvia Allison from Grace Operation & Developm ent Center association gathers
people together and get them involved to help m ake Canton a better place to live and raise a fam ily. The people in the
neighborhood helped each other and organizations were involved when Nim isilla Creek flooded. She wants change in the
com m unity for crim es, jobs, fire stations and feels the parks are in despair and thinks that the Council Mem bers should hear
the people when they go out to vote. Patricia Howard from the Southwest Association of Neighbors, a group that has
successfully closed down som e nightclubs in the area that participated in bad conduct. They help to provide safety and added
green areas to the southwest neighborhoods and are very excited about the new Federal Building and just hope that Building
Code and the city have plans to continue to brighten up the surrounding area so that the agencies and people working at the
new building will feel safe com ing and going and have places to enjoy the City of Canton to create a positive note for all.
Geraldine Allen of the Fairgrounds Residential Neighborhood Association thanked Sgt Fox for him explaining about how the
people can help the police to do their jobs by getting accurate inform ation to report. This group helped to get m ore patrol
during the Ribs Burnoff event. They would like m ore inform ation on W eed and Seed and think that bicycle patrol for police
would m ake them m ore visible in the neighborhoods and reduce crim e. Bev Jordan spoke as a representative for the City
Folks for Cooks Pond and feels that NAVE should be a change agent for the people. She stated that the politicians should be
hearing the groups and that support should go both ways m ore often than just at election tim e. Brenda Kim brough from the
CANTON CITY COUNCIL AGENDA - PAGE 3 - OCTOBER 5, 2009
Cherry Ave Neighborhood Developm ental Operations thanking all city officials for the clean up efforts and she is experiencing
good things on her street. She gave thanks for First Friday activities and stated the good citizens of the city do enjoy these
activities. Marci Zawacky of Harrison Hills Neighborhood Association thanking Charita Goshey for her article in the Repository
regarding a “Grand Plan” for the city. She m entions that just because som e of the industry is leaving we should not have a
dism al city. She feels that as hom es are dem olished that the property should be divided between the adjoining property
owners to m ake nicer lots and encourage m ore hom e buyers. Pat Kirk of the Downtown Central Neighborhood Association
says her group has tried to com e up with a plan for the city to help fight crim es and drugs while finding jobs. She thinks part of
the problem is the neighbors not sharing the correct inform ation with the police and wonders if there should be curfew for
adults that are unruly not just teens. Ida Ross Freem an wants to see the city and the school board do m ore collaboration to
benefit the children and would like to see m ore council and adm inistration partnering with social services to help all
constituents in need. Veronica Callahan as President of NAVE would like all Council Mem bers and citizens of Canton to
becom e m entors for the kids of our town. She thinks everyone should get behind the churches and the social services to help
the people of the com m unities since we are all from different paths in life.
M ISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: Mem ber Sm ith discussing the trick or treat event at the Southeast Com m unity Center on
Sunday, October 25, 2009 from 3 to 5 pm in conjunction with the Canton Negro Oldtim ers Association. Anyone can set up
their own candy booth and pass out to keep kids off the street and provide a safe place to gather treats. Mem ber Griffin
stating that the Canton Preservation Society is trying to gather and docum ent the history of the quadrants of the city. They
already have a library and librarian but could use help from anyone with knowledge. Mem ber W est stating that Mem ber Griffin
should get with Ken Ash regarding the area around Nim isilla Park because he knows all of the history of that section of town.
President Schulm an m entioning to all the NAVE sponsored candidates night on Monday, October 12, 2009 at 6:00 pm at the
Canton Civic Center and stating that Council Mem bers will be attending. Also thanked all m em bers for com ing tonight and
voicing their concerns for the city. Mayor Healy thanking m em bers of all neighborhood associations and NAVE for com ing
tonight and giving a “Hi Neighbor” to all. Thanks for sharing thoughts on what is going well and what is not so well. He is still
available for neighborhood walk thru’s and will continue to try to help with all issues that need addressed. He also m entioned
that there is som e partnering going on with the school board through the Com m unity Developm ent Departm ent and on
W ednesday evening there will be a college fair at the Civic Center announcing a further collaboration with the schools in our
area.
ADJOURNM ENT: 8:33 P.M.
THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL M EETING W ILL BE HELD ON M ONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2009 @ 7:30 PM
THERE W ILL BE NO M EETING ON M ONDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2009 IN OBSERVANCE OF COLUM BUS DAY
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