Community Design Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · September 24, 2019
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Community Design Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Susana Dancy, Chair Megan Patnaik
Christine Berndt, Vice-Chair Polly Van de Velde
Edward Hoskins John Weis
Susan Lyons
Tuesday, September 24, 2019 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Roll Call
Staff-Nicholson, Liles
Council Liason-Oates
Present 6 - Chair Susana Dancy, Vice-Chair Christine Berndt, Susan
Lyons, Megan Patnaik, Polly Van de Velde, and John Weis
Absent 1 - Edward Hoskins
Approval of Agenda
A motion was made by Weis, seconded by Lyons, that the agenda be approved.
The motion carried by the following vote:
Vice Chair Berndt noted objections to items being added after the published
agenda.
Aye: 4 - Chair Susana Dancy, Susan Lyons, Polly Van de Velde, and
John Weis
Aye: 4 - Chair Susana Dancy, Susan Lyons, Polly Van de Velde, and
John Weis
Nay: 2 - Vice-Chair Christine Berndt, and Megan Patnaik
Nay: 2 - Vice-Chair Christine Berndt, and Megan Patnaik
Announcements
1. Blue Hill Massing update will be heard at the end of the meeting.
2. Van de Velde provided an update on the Eastowne meetings that had taken
place over the last month.
3. FLUM discussion regarding current update. Item will be at the October 22
CDC meeting for discussion.
4. Vacant seat discussions moved to October 22 meeting.
5. Petition updates, both concept plan review and awards will be discussed at
the CCES meeting on Friday, October 4th.
6. Public comments, sign up sheet up front.
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1. Blue Hill Massing Update [19-0761]
Staff will introduce this study and review progress made to date. Commission
is asked to provide initial feedback on potential changes to Blue Hill Code.
A motion was made by Van de Velde, seconded by Weis, that the Blue Hilll
Masing update be received and that presentation and discussion willl be
conducted at the October 22nd meeting. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
2. July Minutes [19-0762]
1. Add headings to item 6, 7 & 8 to describe what is being reviewed.
2. #9 motion should explain the approval type.
A motion was made by Lyons, seconded by Weis, that the July minutes be
approved w/ modifications including descriptions for projects being used in the
report and that approval for Christ Community Church include the that
elevations and alternate buffer were approved. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
3. August Minutes [19-0763]
A motion was made by Van de Velde, seconded by Lyons, that the August
minutes be tabled for discussion at the October 22 meeting. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
Consent Agenda
A motion was made by Van de Velde, seconded by Patnaik, that the consent
agenda be approved. The motion carried by the following vote:
Vice Chair Berndt (reason given was that application did not meet Blue Hill code
intent)
Aye: 5 - Chair Susana Dancy, Susan Lyons, Megan Patnaik, Polly Van
de Velde, and John Weis
Nay: 1 - Vice-Chair Christine Berndt
4. 140 West Lighting-Consent [19-0764]
Commission is asked to approve updated lighting for breezeway.
5. Village Plaza Parking Lighting-LED Retrofit [19-0765]
Commission is asked to provide approval for LED retrofit.
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Concept Plans
6. 1701 Martin Luther King-Evolve Concept Plan [19-0766]
Commission is asked to provide comments on concept plan proposing change
of use.
1. Multiple commissioners expressed support of the change if the
residential units are classified for affordable housing.
2. One commissioner expressed caution to endorse the change given the
recent approval of SECU-Charterwood on the adjacent property.
3. One commissioner encouraged the applicant to investigate
neighborhood service/retail or consider flex-space for start-ups.
4. One commissioner was supportive of the change given the existing
retail has remained vacant and referenced the timid approach to providing
retail as the root cause for current vacancy.
7. 124 W. Rosemary-Concept Plan [19-0767]
Commission is asked to provide comments on proposed hotel.
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Berndt, seconded by Lyons, that the
concept plan for West Rosemary Hotel be referred to the Community Design
Commission, due back by 10/22/2019. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
8. 201 S. Estes Drive-University Mall Concept Plan [19-0768]
Commission is asked to provide comments on proposed redevelopment.
1. Multiple commissioners expressed acknowledgement that the floodplain
is a constraints which impacts potential improvements.
2. One commissioner suggested putting density on the back side of the
property in Pods A, B and C shown on the concept plna to minimize
development in the floodplain.
3. Multiple commissioners encouraged the applicant to investigate making
the land which regularly floods between the existing mall building and
Estes Drive an enhanced stormwater feature and community greenspace
for the site. This area could be a stormwater rain garden (Pod E).
4. Multiple commissioners expressed an interest in seeing permeable
paving and an overall reductino in impervious footprint.
5. A commissioner suggested not interupting the community open space
w/ a roadway.
6. One commissioner expressed interest in seeing a concept that removed
the gas station from the floodplain over the long term.
7. One commissioner wanted to see the central green space relate more
to Fordham and Estes.
8. One commissioner applauded the applicant's idea of conneting Booker
Creek and Bolin Creek greenways, and suggested adding this and other
pedestrian/bikeway connections to the concept plan.
9. One commissioner suggested buffering the adjoining church property.
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10. Multiple commissioners felt that a more intense/bold approach could
work in this location. Further increasing density and verticality could work
well for this parcel, although acknowledging there is a major flooding
issue to be addressed.
11. One commissioner made specific note of their support of permeating
the existing building and expressed a desire for increasing that practice.
12. Multiple commissioners would like to see additional residential space.
There is an opportunity for townhomes and affordable housing.
13. One commissioner mentioned enhancing the streetscape along Willow
Drive.
14. One commissioner noted creating design guidelines by pod area could
be a useful tool for this site like those done for Carraway Village.
15. A citizen asked that the project not add to Camelot Village's flooding
problems and suggested a flood study be done. A citizen living in Willow
Terrace asked that the developer preserve the businessses across the
street from them.
9. 137 W. Rosemary-Concept Plan [19-0769]
Commission is asked to provide coments on core and shell improvements.
1. Commission supports the investigation of energy efficient building
measures.
2. One commissioner was concerned about glass treatment and its impact
on birds.
3. Commission was genearlly supportive of the improvements proposed.
4. Multiple commissioners encouraged enhancing the pedestrian circulation
from Rosemary Street to Franklin Street through the building, and showing
clearly on the plans how the pedestrian connections will work.
5. One commissioner would like to see the glass treatment be more
vertical in appearance.
6. One commissioner wanted to see some investigation into treating the
brick facade w/ public art along the Wallace Deck alley, and making the
pedestrian bridge a unique feature.
New Business
10. Tarheel Lodging-COA Modifications [19-0770]
1. Motion made by Van de Velde, seconded by Lyons that the alternate
street tree spacing be approved. Motion carried by a unanimous vote.
2. Motion made by Weis, seconded by Van de Velde, that screening not be
required but that the applicant will coordinate w/ Duke Energy the extent
to which landscaping can be used at the transformer and backflow
preventer. Motion carried by a unanimous vote.
3. Motion made by Weis, seconded by Van de Velde, that elevations be
approved w/ the condition that drawings will be provided that ensure that
screened mechanical equipment on the roof cannot be seen from the
public right of way. Motion carried by the following vote:5-1
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Aye-Chair Dancy, Lyons Van de Velde, Patnaik and Weis
Nay Vice Chair Berndt (noted the need for a more thorough review of the
mechanical equipment).
4. Motion made by Lyons, seconded by Van de Velde, that the locked door
be removed from the front facade. Motion carried by the following vote:
4-2
Aye-Vice Chair Berndt, Lyons Van de Velde and Weis
Nay-Chair Dancy and Patnaik
5. Motion made by Van de Velde, seconded by Weis, that the dumpster
enclosure be approved. Motion carried by a unanimous vote.
A motion was made by Van de Velde, seconded by Lyons, that Tarheel
Lodging/TRU Hotel is in compliance w/ a modified certificate of
appropriatness. The motion carried by the following vote:
Vice Chair Berndt (noted screening of mechanical equipment is not suitable).
Aye: 5 - Chair Susana Dancy, Susan Lyons, Megan Patnaik, Polly Van
de Velde, and John Weis
Nay: 1 - Vice-Chair Christine Berndt
Adjournment
Next Meeting - Tuesday, October 22nd
A motion was made by Van de Velde, seconded by Weis, that the meeting be
adjourned. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
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Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development
Services Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org
for more information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Community Design Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Commission
Meeting Agenda
Susana Dancy, Chair Megan Patnaik
Christine Berndt, Vice-Chair Polly Van de Velde
Edward Hoskins John Weis
Susan Lyons
Tuesday, September 24, 2019 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Roll Call
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
1. Blue Hill Massing Update [19-0761]
Attachments: BlueHill_Massing_CDCAgenda_9.24
BlueHill-Massing-June2019
Staff will introduce this study and review progress made to date.
Commission is asked to provide initial feedback on potential
changes to Blue Hill Code.
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
2. July Minutes [19-0762]
Attachments: July_Minutes
3. August Minutes [19-0763]
Attachments: August_Minutes
Consent Agenda
4. 140 West Lighting-Consent [19-0764]
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Attachments: Lighting Plan/Specifications
Photometrics
Commission is asked to approve updated lighting for breezeway.
5. Village Plaza Parking Lighting-LED Retrofit [19-0765]
Attachments: VillagePlaza_Photometrics
VillagePlaza_Specifications
Commission is asked to provide approval for LED retrofit.
Concept Plans
6. 1701 Martin Luther King-Evolve Concept Plan [19-0766]
Attachments: Site Plan
Approved SUP
Application w/ Statement
Commission is asked to provide comments on concept plan
proposing change of use.
7. 124 W. Rosemary-Concept Plan [19-0767]
Attachments: Plan Set
Developer's Statements
Commission is asked to provide comments on proposed hotel.
8. 201 S. Estes Drive-University Mall Concept Plan [19-0768]
Attachments: Plan Set
Flood Map
Developer's Program
Commission is asked to provide comments on proposed
redevelopment.
9. 137 W. Rosemary-Concept Plan [19-0769]
Attachments: Plan Set
Commission is asked to provide coments on core and shell
improvements.
New Business
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10. Tarheel Lodging-COA Modifications [19-0770]
Attachments: Plan Set
Written Narrative
Adjournment
Next Meeting - Tuesday, October 22nd
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development Services
Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more
information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 3 of 3 Printed on 9/17/2019
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