Community Design Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · May 18, 2020
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Community Design Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Susana Dancy, Chair Susan Lyons
Christine Berndt, Vice-Chair Megan Patnaik
Edward Hoskins Polly Van de Velde
Kim Levell John Weis
Monday, May 18, 2020 4:00 PM Virtual Meeting
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Opening
Roll Call
Present 8 - Chair Susana Dancy, Vice-Chair Christine Berndt, Edward
Hoskins, Kim Levell, Susan Lyons, Megan Patnaik, Polly Van
de Velde, and John Weis
Approval of Agenda
A motion was made by Van de Velde, seconded by Lyons, that the agenda be
approved with the modifications noted below. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
Chair Dancy requested to discuss the commissions downtown review petition as
Item #7.
Hoskins requested to discuss the commissions design award initiative as Item #8.
Announcements
Staff announcements included follow up discussion on whether the commission
would have a July meeting.
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Approval of Minutes
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Berndt, seconded by Van de Velde, that both
meeting minutes be deferred to the Community Design Commission, due back by
6/23/2020. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
1. April 3rd-Meeting Minutes [20-0318]
2. April 27th-Meeting Minutes [20-0319]
Concept Plan Reviews
3. Carraway Village [20-0320]
SUP Modification Request
Commission is asked to review and provide comments on a concept plan for a
potential SUP mod for Carraway Village. Proposed modifications to the SUP
include potential changes to use categories, public street A and signs.
Commission Consensus
1. Multiple commissioners expressed support of the proposed
modifications.
2. Multiple commissioners were supportive of a gas station being placed in
Block A due to visibility and highway accessibility, but they noted that its
relation to the RCD needed further investigation and caution.
2. Two commissioners preferred a gas station be placed in Block's B or C,
noting the gateway location of Block A and not wanting a gas station in
the entranceway to Chapel Hill.
3. Multiple commissioners were supportive of the modifications to the
gateway signage to allow additional tenant panels. However, they also
thought that the way the signage is designed makes it difficult to read
and looks cluttered, and they encouraged the applicant to think about
potential design modifications.
4. After reviewing the RCD on the adjoining properties commissioners
agreed it made sense to not extend Public Street A to the property line of
Block G. The applicant also stated that a driveway could be extended to a
future self-storage building.
Individual Comments
1. One commissioner noted that a gas station located in Block A did not
fit with the vision for the block that was previously approved through the
master planning efforts for the project.
2. One commissioner noted support of the self-storage in Block G,
provided in respected the RCD.
3. One commissioner did not feel that additional sign panels would be
desirable or help, but was supportive of additional ground signage for
wayfinding.
4. One commissioner preferred retaining gas stations as an accessory use
only.
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New Business
4. 125 E. Rosemary-Parking Structure [20-0321]
Conditional Zoning Recommendation
Commission is asked to provide a recommendation to council for this
conditional zoning project. There are (3) motions the CDC is authorized to
make. Those are approval, approval w/ conditions or denial. Please note
that these motions are recommendations to Council, not final actions.
Commissioners motioned the following recommendations. Approved
recommendations to be forwarded to Council for review. Each motion is
noted below with their recorded votes.
Levell motioned, seconded by Van de Velde to require (2) green walls on
the north and east walls. Motion carried 7:1.
Aye-Vice-Chair Berndt, Hoskins, Levell, Lyons, Patnaik, Van de Velde and
Weis
Nay-Chair Dancy, opposed the motion because she felt the Commission
was micro-managing this detail.
Vice Chair Berndt motioned, seconded by Lyons to eliminate the 2nd
entrance on West Rosemary Street at Northwest corner. Motion failed
4:4.
Aye-Lyons, Vice-Chair Berndt & Hoskins
Nay-Chair Dancy, Weis, Levell, Van de Velde and Patnaik
Reasons for nay vote centered around the lack of information provided at
this point.
Lyons motioned, seconded by Weis to eliminate the pedestrian bridge
from recommendation A. Motion carried 6:2.
Aye-Chair Dancy, Lyons, Patnaik, Weis, Levell and Hoskins
Nay-Vice Chair Berndt and Van de Velde opposed eliminating the
pedestrian bridge.
Vice Chair Berndt motioned, seconded by Hoskins that the commission
would like an iterative design review process during final plan review.
Motion failed 4:4.
Aye-Vice-Chair Berndt, Hoskins, Lyons & Van de Velde
Nay-Chair Dancy, Weis, Patnaik & Levell
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A motion was made by Weis, seconded by Van de Velde, that 125 E.
Rosemary conditional zoning application be recommended for approval to
Council. The motion carried by the following vote:
Vice-Chair Berndt noted nay because the design is too big and too tall, and
does not mitigate the impacts of the project upon the surrounding
neighborhoods and historic districts, and the Town as a whole (per item D in
Resolution B).
Aye: 7 - Chair Susana Dancy, Edward Hoskins, Kim Levell, Susan
Lyons, Megan Patnaik, Polly Van de Velde, and John Weis
Nay: 1 - Vice-Chair Christine Berndt
Old Business
5. Valvoline-Final Plan Elevations [20-0322]
Commission is asked to review and consider action on proposed building
elevations and lighting w/ modifications made by applicant after feedback from
the January CDC meeting. There are (3) motions the CDC is authorized to
make. Those are approval, approval w/ conditions or deferral.
Previous review comments by the CDC included concern about how the
building related in scale and massing to the adjoining building and concern w/
the garage doors facing Franklin Street. At that meeting clarification was
requested from staff as to whether or not this project would constitute a
drive-thru. Staff's determination concluded that for a drive-thru a 'window' has
to be provided, so this project does not qualify.
The applicant presented plans w/ changes to the elevations to relate it to
the adjoining buildings. Chair Dancy noted the garage doors still faced
hte street and were too close to it.
Van de Velde motioned the project be approved as presented. No second
was initially made. Weis then seconded the motion w/ a friendly
amendment to add more landscaping in front of the building. Van de
Velde did not accept it as a friendly amendment and she withdrew her
motion.
Levell motioned to approve with additional landscape screening. No
second or vote was recorded. Chair Dancy suggested tabling this item to
the next meeting w/ additional landscaping being provided. Staff noted
that the Commission cannot require landscaping.
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Berndt, seconded by Weis, that Valvoline
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be deferred until the next meeting, with the applicant considering the
comments and concerns. The motion carried 7:1.
Levell gave no reason for nay vote.
Aye: 7 - Chair Susana Dancy, Vice-Chair Christine Berndt, Edward
Hoskins, Susan Lyons, Megan Patnaik, Polly Van de Velde,
and John Weis
Nay: 1 - Kim Levell
Petitions
Downtown Design District Petition
Commissioner Weis provided an edited draft petition reflecting the
Commission's discussion at the April 27 meeting to request the downtown be
made a special appearance district. Vice-Chair Berndt moved, seconded by Van
de Velde, that the petition letter to Council be approved with one modifications
to the last sentence in paragraph 5, and submitted to Council. Vote was
approved unanimously.
Hoskins gave an update on the design awards initiative including updates on
relevant staff who were working to coordinate the awards efforts. He made a
motion, seconded by Van de Velde to postpone further work this year and ask
Council to make the design awards a priority in 2021. Vote was approved
unanimously.
6. Elevation Modifications Petition [20-0333]
Vice Chair Berndt submitted a draft petition to address possible
improvements of changing approved elevation modifications. The
Commission voted unanimously to submit it to staff. Staff will report back
verbally at the June meeting.
Adjournment
Next Meeting - Tentative, June 23
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Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Community Design Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Commission
Meeting Agenda
Susana Dancy, Chair Susan Lyons
Christine Berndt, Vice-Chair Megan Patnaik
Edward Hoskins Polly Van de Velde
Kim Levell John Weis
Monday, May 18, 2020 4:00 PM Virtual Meeting
Virtual Meeting Notification
Board members will attend and participate in this meeting remotely, through
internet access, and will not physically attend. The Town will not provide a
physical location for viewing the meeting.
The public is invited to attend the Zoom webinar directly online or by phone.
Register for this webinar:
https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_xzTRUMQ_RXigGeSCOUaLm
Q After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing
information about joining the webinar in listen-only mode. Phone:
301-715-8592, Meeting ID: 826 4942 0142
Opening
Roll Call
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Approval of Minutes
1. April 3rd-Meeting Minutes [20-0318]
Attachments: Report
2. April 27th-Meeting Minutes [20-0319]
Attachments: Report
Concept Plan Reviews
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Community Design Commission Meeting Agenda May 18, 2020
3. Carraway Village [20-0320]
SUP Modification Request
Attachments: Application
Presentation
Commission is asked to review and provide comments on a concept
plan for a potential SUP mod for Carraway Village. Proposed
modifications to the SUP include potential changes to use
categories, public street A and signs.
New Business
4. 125 E. Rosemary-Parking Structure [20-0321]
Conditional Zoning Recommendation
Attachments: Concept Plan Comments
Rosemary Parking Deck 18 May 2020
125 E Rosemary Staff Memo 4.21.20
Ordinance A Rezoning 4.21
Resolution A
Resolution B
Commission is asked to provide a recommendation to council for
this conditional zoning project. There are (3) motions the CDC is
authorized to make. Those are approval, approval w/ conditions or
denial. Please note that these motions are recommendations to
Council, not final actions.
Old Business
5. Valvoline-Final Plan Elevations [20-0322]
Attachments: Drawings
January Elevations-Comparison Submittal
Commission is asked to review and consider action on proposed
building elevations and lighting w/ modifications made by applicant
after feedback from the January CDC meeting. There are (3)
motions the CDC is authorized to make. Those are approval,
approval w/ conditions or deferral.
Previous review comments by the CDC included concern about how
the building related in scale and massing to the adjoining building
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 2 of 3 Printed on 5/15/2020
Community Design Commission Meeting Agenda May 18, 2020
and concern w/ the garage doors facing Franklin Street. At that
meeting clarification was requested from staff as to whether or not
this project would constitute a drive-thru. Staff's determination
concluded that for a drive-thru a 'window' has to be provided, so
this project does not qualify.
Petitions
6. Elevation Modifications Petition [20-0333]
Attachments: Report
Adjournment
Next Meeting - Tentative, June 23
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 3 of 3 Printed on 5/15/2020
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