Community Design Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · December 16, 2021
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Community Design Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
John Weis, Chair Edward Hoskins
Susan Lyons, Vice Chair Scott Levitan
Susana Dancy Megan Patnaik
Thursday, December 16, 2021 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting
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Opening
Roll Call
Present 6 - Chair John Weis, Vice-Chair Susan Lyons, Susana Dancy,
Edward Hoskins, Scott Levitan, and Megan Patnaik
Approval of Agenda
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Lyons, seconded by Hoskins, that item 9, 307 N.
Roberson, be moved to the consent agenda. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
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A motion was made by Chair Weis, seconded by Vice-Chair Lyons, that item 10 be
limited to discussion of the University Place Design Standards, and that discussion
of the Multifamily building be deferred to a later meeting. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Lyons, seconded by Dancy, to approve the
agenda as amended. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Announcements
No announcements were noted at time of agenda release
Corey Liles with the Planning Department shared that a modification had been
made to the materials for item 3, YMCA. The applicant had updated the Photometric
Plan to provide a color temperature of 3000K, and the attachments in the online
agenda had been updated accordingly.
Petitions
No petitions were noted at time of agenda release
No petitions were presented or discussed.
Approval of Minutes
1. October Minutes [21-0953]
Commission is asked to approve October minutes. Updates include
comments from Weis received before November meeting.
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Lyons, seconded by Hoskins, to approve
the October minutes with the corrections noted by Chair Weis. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
2. November Minutes [21-0954]
Commission is asked to review and consider action on November minutes.
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Lyons, seconded by Hoskins, to approve
the November minutes w/ the noted modifications as submitted by Chair Weis.
The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Consent Agenda
A motion was made by Hoskins, seconded by Vice-Chair Lyons, to approve the
consent agenda with the condition that the color temperature for YMCA lighting be
as stated on the updated Photometric Plan. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
Approval of the consent agenda included the following items:
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3. YMCA
9. 307 N. Roberson
3. YMCA [21-0955]
Final Plans-Lighting Retrofit
Commission is asked to consider action on lighting retrofit.
Old Business
4. AURA Blue Hill [21-0956]
COA Request
Commission is asked to receive application presentation and materials and
discuss COA request.
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Lyons, seconded by Chair Weis, that
Commission member Dancy be recused from this agenda item due to a stated
conflict of interest. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
No public comment was received.
Concerns shared by Commission members:
- Building elevations don't give a Chapel Hill feel
- South elevation of Fordham building needs more visual interest
- Beige horizontal siding gives a monolithic impression
- Consider treatments for pedestrian safety where the multiuse path crosses
Bypass Ln
- Consider other facade options for the parking deck, since current approach
does not fully screen the internal ramps
- Public space along Fordham doesn't seem inviting
- Consider service functions (trash, loading, etc) and ensure those don't
conflict with resident and public experience
Guidance on Design Alternatives provided by Commission members:
- General support for the increased upper floor plate area request
- General agreement that the proposed street trees do not provide an
'equivalent or better' approach
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Lyons, seconded by Patnaik, that action on
this item be deferred for continued discussion at a later meeting, with a
request to focus discussion on the building elevation refinements. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
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5. Fifth Third Bank [21-0957]
Final Plans-Elevations and LIghting Plan
Commission is asked to receive application materials and consider action on
final plans request. This review requires action on elevations and site lighting
plan.
No public comment was received.
Concerns shared by Commission members:
- Extent of EIFS being proposed for a small one-story building
- Determining whether the proposed light poles were consistent with the
fixtures being contemplated for the rest of the University Place site.
A motion was made by Dancy, seconded by Levitan, that action on this item
be deferred for continued discussion at a later meeting. The motion carried by
a unanimous vote.
6. Shack Shake at Eastgate [21-0958]
COA Modification Request
Commission is asked to receive application presentation and materials and
discuss COA request.
No public comment was received.
Concerns shared by Commission members:
- Continued use of EIFS on the building facade, particularly without
clarification as to whether it could be allowed through a Design Alternative,
nonconformity, or other means.
A motion was made by Hoskins, seconded by Chair Weis, to approve the
Certificate of Appropriateness with a Design Alternative for additional EIFS as
shown on submitted elevations. The motion failed by the following vote:
Aye: Chair John Weis, Edward Hoskins
Nay: Vice-Chair Susan Lyons, Susana Dancy, Scott Levitan, Megan
Patnaik
Members voting Nay found that the use of EIFS did not meet the 'equivalent
or better' threshold for approving a Design Alternative.
A motion was made by Dancy, seconded by Levitan, that action on this item
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be deferred for continued discussion at a later meeting. The motion carried by
the following vote:
Hoskins stated readiness to take action as the reason for his Nay vote.
Aye: 5 - Chair John Weis, Vice-Chair Susan Lyons, Susana Dancy,
Scott Levitan, and Megan Patnaik
Nay: 1 - Edward Hoskins
Concept Plan Reviews
7. South Creek [21-0959]
Concept Plan
Commission is asked to provide comments on proposed concept plan.
A member of the public shared concerns related to the Concept Plan.
Commission members provided comments for consideration by the applicant
and Town Council. No action was taken.
- Measures to promote safe crossing of 15-501, including consideration of a
bridge.
- Concern about noise for townhomes facing 15-501. Interest in reconsidering
the street in front of these townhomes - opportunity for a wider green zone.
Additional comment was noted to consider the layout of townhomes on Oval
Park at Meadowmont w/ a driveway in back.
- Work with NCDOT to modify the design of 15-501 where possible, given the
recent speed limit reduction. For example, an additional traffic light, narrower
travel lanes, and other measures could make it more pedestrian friendly.
- Concern that proposed price points would not be feasible given construction
costs.
- Interest in variety for condo buildings, where they would have similar
character but not be carbon copies.
- Consider expanding the central green as a placemaking feature, and
possibly orient townhomes more towards open space.
- Appreciation for quality of building design, proposed open space and trail
network, relationship to Southern Village and Southern Community Park, and
strategies for working with topography.
8. 2217 Homestead Road [21-0960]
Concept Plan
Commission is asked to provide comments on proposed concept plan.
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Members of the public shared concerns related to the Concept Plan.
Commission members provided comments for consideration by the applicant
and Town Council. No action was taken.
- Community open space should be more defined, meaningful, and unifying
for the community. Don't have it broken into small pieces. Program open
spaces with amenities to make it more active, such as play equipment and a
club house.
- The design makes garage doors prominent, which works against the
resident experience. Consider shared driveways providing rear garage
access. This would improve the streetscape for pedestrians and allow more
space for on-street visitor parking.
- One member felt a design to minimize garage doors was particularly
important for units along the edges of the site.
- Appreciation for amount of tree preservation, minimized grading approach,
and site entry experience.
- Interest in seeing how other Homestead Rd projects relate to this one.
9. 307 N. Roberson [21-0983]
Concept plan is part of a limited scope Conditional Zoning review approved by
council. Similar projects in the past have been passed through by CDC on
the consent agenda and forwarded w/ no comments.
This item was moved to the Consent Agenda and forwarded without
comments.
New Business
10. UPlace Multi-Family and Design Standards [21-0961]
Commission is asked to begin review of final plans related to elevations and
site lighting.
This item was modified to include only a discussion of the Design Standards.
No further action was taken.
Commission members voiced continued concern about the scale of buildings,
the ubiquity of large multifamily projects, and the shortcomings of the Design
Standards for Pod A.
Staff stated they will provide a list of changes made to the Design Standards
in response to CDC input, and share CDC concerns with the Manager's
Office.
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Adjournment
Next Meeting - January 25, 2022
A motion was made by Dancy, seconded by Patnaik, to adjourn the meeting at
10:45PM. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Community Design Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Commission
Meeting Agenda
John Weis, Chair Edward Hoskins
Susan Lyons, Vice Chair Scott Levitan
Susana Dancy Megan Patnaik
Thursday, December 16, 2021 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting
Virtual Meeting Notification
Opening
Roll Call
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. October Minutes [21-0953]
Attachments: Report
2. November Minutes [21-0954]
Attachments: Report
Consent Agenda
3. YMCA [21-0955]
Final Plans-Lighting Retrofit
Attachments: Application/Narrative
Cutsheet
Photometric Plan
Old Business
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4. AURA Blue Hill [21-0956]
COA Request
Attachments: Project Narrative
Plan Set
Urban Design Review
COA Checklist
COA Review Elements
Design Alt. Requests
5. Fifth Third Bank [21-0957]
Final Plans-Elevations and LIghting Plan
Attachments: Presentation
Plan Set
6. Shack Shake at Eastgate [21-0958]
COA Modification Request
Attachments: Arch. Plan Set
Landscape Plan Set
Concept Plan Reviews
7. South Creek [21-0959]
Concept Plan
Attachments: Project Narrative
Plan Set
Condo Rendering
Retail Rendering
Townhome Rendering
8. 2217 Homestead Road [21-0960]
Concept Plan
Attachments: Application/Plan Set
9. 307 N. Roberson [21-0983]
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Attachments: Project Narrative
Plan Set
Council Resolution
New Business
10. UPlace Multi-Family and Design Standards [21-0961]
Attachments: Design Standards-Redline
Plan Set
Cutsheets
Adjournment
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
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