Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · February 13, 2018
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair Robert Epting Craig Carbrey
Vice-Chair Kimberly Kyser Susan Smith
Deputy Vice-Chair John Sweet Mary Vogler
Woodrow Burns James White
Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Present 7 - Chair Robert Epting, Vice-Chair Kimberly Kyser, Deputy
Vice-Chair John Sweet, Woodrow Burns, Craig Carbrey,
Susan Smith, and Mary Vogler
Absent 1 - James White
Consent
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. Approve the January 9, 2018 Action Minutes [18-0104]
Commission Craig Carbrey correctly noted that the action reflected for item 5
on pages 4-5 in the draft minutes, showing that Commissioner Sweet’s Motion
to adopt a Finding of Fact had passed, actually failed by a vote of 3-4. John
Richardson, Staff, clarified that that mistake had been corrected in the final
version of the minutes, and had resulted from a change in the minutes format,
on the Town webpage.
Aye: 7 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Kyser, Deputy Vice-Chair Sweet,
Burns, Carbrey, Smith, and Vogler
Reports
2. Update on Outreach Initiatives [18-0105]
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Nothing to report, according to the Chair.
3. Update on SHPO grant proposal for Design Guidelines; and [18-0106]
Project to Complete Surveys of Chapel Hill local Historic
Districts
Commissioner Sweet reported the SHPO has acknowledged receipt of the
HDC’s grant application to help fund the Guidelines revision project. Further,
he reported progress toward completion of the survey of 58 additional
properties that are located near Franklin-Rosemary and Cameron McCauley
Historic Districts, and that he is managing the scanning of existing
photographs to help make these materials more available and useful in our
work.
4. Staff Report on Town's Future Land Use Map Project [18-0107]
(presenter: Alisa Duffey Rogers)
Alisa Duffey Roger, Staff, gave an overview of the mapping project processes
and will return as needed. The HDC will have future opportunity for comments
and recommendations to assist in the LUMO map revision project.
Consent
5. 321 W Cameron Avenue - Alpha Sigma of Chi Psi Inc. [18-0117]
Commissioner John Sweet moved and Commissioner Woodrow Burns
seconded his Motion to approve the after-the-fact Certificate of
Appropriateness for construction of the fire pit at 321 W. Cameron Street.
Aye: 7 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Kyser, Deputy Vice-Chair Sweet,
Burns, Carbrey, Smith, and Vogler
Old Business
6. 229 E Franklin Street - Lambda Chi Alpha [18-0108]
Commissioner Kimberly Kyser moved and Commissioner Woodrow Burns
seconded to close the public hearing.
Chairman Epting suggested, and the applicant agreed, that the application
might remain open, so that further research could be done to show why the
dumpsters are located as they are, and to give the applicant time to consider
revisions to better accommodate these uses, which are being made by several
fraternities in the area.
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Aye: 7 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Kyser, Deputy Vice-Chair Sweet,
Burns, Carbrey, Smith, and Vogler
New Business
7. 179 E Franklin Street - Post Office Alley Renovations Project [18-0109]
Commissioner John Sweet moved and Commissioner Kimberly Kyser
seconded to close the public hearing.
Commissioner John Sweet proposed, and the Members indicated seconded
his Motion to make the following Findings of fact for the record in reference to
the application for the property located at 179 E. Franklin Street: (1) that the
structure is within the downtown landscape and contributes in important ways
and uses to the special character of Chapel Hill’s Franklin Rosemary Historic
District; (2) that the original downtown post office building is a distinctive
historic structure that has currently undergone adaptive re use, and is used as
a post office branch and a State Court facility; (3) that the property has
acquired important associations reflected in the name Peace and Justice
Plaza out in front of the building itself; and (4) that therefore it is important that
the character of the property be respected and its special character and its
contributions to the district be preserved. Commissioner Woodrow Burns
seconded. The motion was unanimously approved 7-0.
Commissioner Sweet further proposed a Finding that the application
convincingly demonstrates that the alleyway adjacent to the building is
currently unpleasant and unsafe, and that re-grading is needed to improve the
flow of traffic through the alley by widening it in places. He also noted that
improvements to wayfinding proposed at the entrance near the parking garage
at the rear of the alley should contribute both to utility and safety.
Commissioner Craig Cabrey seconded. The motion was unanimously
approved 7-0.
Commissioner John Sweet further proposed Finding that the proposal for
re-grading the walkway is congruous with the HDC’s Design guidelines for
walkways; (1) that it will use traditional materials; (2) that it is unobtrusive
visually; (3) that it solves practical problems, including public safety concerns
that currently exist; (4) that the changes proposed will make an important
contribution to the integrity and future use of the site; and (5) that the changes
to the surface of the alleyway are not incongruous with the historic character
of the District. Commissioner Woodrow Burns seconded. The motion was
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unanimously approved 7-0.
Commissioner Sweet further proposed by way of a motion the following
Finding of Fact: that the pierced brick fence designed to screen the back
northwest portion of the property from the adjacent utility area and trash
containers is appropriate in light of the HDC Design Guidelines (pages 16-17)
for walls and fences because the applicant proposes to use classic materials
and a classic design that would be in harmony with the site. Commissioner
Kimberly Kyser seconded. The motion was unanimously approved 7-0.
Based upon the aforementioned Findings of fact, Commissioner Sweet moved
that the three basic elements of the proposed re-grading for the alleyway
(raised planting beds, the pierced fencing, and the embedded wayfinding) are
consistent with the Design Guidelines and are not incongruous with the
special character of the Historic District, and should be approved;
Commissioner Woodrow Burns seconded. The motion was unanimously
approved 7-0.
Additionally, Commissioner Sweet made a motion for a Finding of Fact that the
applicant’s decorative scheme which proposes affixing metal models of birds
to the sides of the chimney and wall of the Courthouse/Post Office building, as
well as along the fencing beside the alleyway, are all uncharacteristic of the
Historic District, and are therefore incongruous with the special character of
the District, as they detract from and diminish the historic character of the
building and the uses inside and are not approved. Commissioner Woodrow
Burns seconded. The motion was unanimously approved 7-0.
Commissioner Sweet made a Finding of Fact that the proposed guardrail and
entry portal could be appropriate, but that final designs are needed to make
this determination. Commissioner Woodrow Burns seconded. The motion was
unanimously approved 7-0.
Commission John Sweet moved based on the finding of fact just made, to
approve the application as it relates to the re-grading of the walkway,
rearrangement of the planting beds and the pierced brick fence as proposed,
and to deny the other elements of the application, with the expectation that the
applicant may return with a new or revised application that will cover these
elements in the future. Commissioner Woodrow Burns seconded. The motion
was unanimously approved 7-0.
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Aye: 7 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Kyser, Deputy Vice-Chair Sweet,
Burns, Carbrey, Smith, and Vogler
8. 517 E Franklin Street [18-0110]
Matthew Ford presented for the applicant.
Commissioner Kyser moved to close the public hearing, which was seconded
by Ms. Smith. The motion was unanimously approved 7-0.
The Commissioners then discussed the application, and determined, at the
applicant’s request, to revisit this application, in a revised form, at the March
13, 2018 meeting of the Historic District Commission.
Aye: 7 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Kyser, Deputy Vice-Chair Sweet,
Burns, Carbrey, Smith, and Vogler
9. 9 Cobb Terrace - Modification of Application [18-0111]
Mr. Cam Hill, property owner, made a request to modify the COA previously approved
by the Commission for his property at 9 Cobb Terrace.
Commissioners noted that the work previously required for Mr. Hill to obtain an
after-the-fact COA had not been completed, and that several actions
inconsistent with HDC guidelines and requirements had been taken by Mr.
Hill. The Chair suggested to Mr. Hill that he resolve these issues first, and
then return to the Commission once he has complied with the HDC’s previous
directives.
10. Discussion of Historic District Commission Priorities [18-0112]
11. Conversation about the Cottages at 109 Park Place [18-0113]
Chair Epting noted that a letter has been received from Jim Spencer, Architect
for the COA application, requesting permission to move or demolish the Park
Place cottages, and that Mr. Spencer’s letter indicates that progress is being
made on relocating those cottages rather than demolishing them. A copy of
letter is attached to these minutes .
Membership
12. Membership Application Review and Recommendations to [18-0114]
Council
Three applicants James Locke, Garrett Sillman and Francis Gravely made brief
statements in support of their nominations. Commissioner Sweet noted several
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additional seats on the Commission would be filled by Town Council at the June
meeting and that any not appointed this evening would also be considered for
appointment then.
Commissioner Kimberly Kyser moved that the Commission recommend James
Locke and Sean Murphy to Town Council to fill the two current Historic District
Commission vacancies. It was noted that the HDC had previously voted to
recommend the application of Joe Reckford, and that that recommendation
had previously been forwarded to Council. Commissioner Woodrow Burns
seconded. The motion was unanimously approved 7-0.
Aye: 7 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Kyser, Deputy Vice-Chair Sweet,
Burns, Carbrey, Smith, and Vogler
13. Discussion of Historic District Commission Membership Seat [18-0115]
Categories
The Commission briefly discussed the specific categories of qualifications
recommended by the Statute, and it was noted that the present membership of the
Commission included persons from each of the suggested categories.
The Commission briefly discussed the specific categories of qualifications
recommended by the Statute, and it was noted that the present membership of
the Commission included persons from each of the suggested categories.
Courtesy Review
None
29 Adjournment
Next Meeting - March 13, 2018
The meeting adjourned at 10:00pm.
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Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending person
to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal control.
Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the meeting
until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development
Services Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org
for more information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair Robert Epting Craig Carbrey
Vice-Chair Kimberly Kyser Susan Smith
Deputy Vice-Chair John Sweet Mary Vogler
Woodrow Burns James White
Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Consent
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. Approve the January 9, 2018 Action Minutes [18-0104]
Attachments: Action Minutes
Reports
2. Update on Outreach Initiatives [18-0105]
3. Update on SHPO grant proposal for Design [18-0106]
Guidelines; and Project to Complete
Surveys of Chapel Hill local Historic
Districts
4. Staff Report on Town's Future Land Use [18-0107]
Map Project (presenter: Alisa Duffey
Rogers)
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Consent
5. 321 W Cameron Avenue - Alpha Sigma of [18-0117]
Chi Psi Inc.
Attachments: 321 W Cameron Ave COA Application
Old Business
6. 229 E Franklin Street - Lambda Chi Alpha [18-0108]
Attachments: Hyperlink - Lambda Chi Alpha COA
Application
New Business
7. 179 E Franklin Street - Post Office Alley [18-0109]
Renovations Project
Attachments: Hyperlink - 179 E. Franklin Street COA
Application
8. 517 E Franklin Street [18-0110]
Attachments: Hyperlink - 517 E. Franklin Street COA
Application
9. 9 Cobb Terrace - Modification of Application [18-0111]
Attachments: Hyperlink - 9 Cobb Terrace Written
Request for Modification of Application
10. Discussion of Historic District Commission [18-0112]
Priorities
11. Conversation about the Cottages at 109 [18-0113]
Park Place
Membership
12. Membership Application Review and [18-0114]
Recommendations to Council
Attachments: Applications
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13. Discussion of Historic District Commission [18-0115]
Membership Seat Categories
Based on discussion at the October 5th, 2017 Council Committee on Boards and
Commissions, consider providing feedback on the Council Committee proposal to
officially designate two existing Historic District Commission seats, as follows:
(1) architect (2) member residing within Planning jurisdiction and outside of the
local Historic Districts.
Courtesy Review
None
Adjournment
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development Services
Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more
information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 3 of 3 Printed on 2/13/2018
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