Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · May 14, 2019
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair Robert Epting Kimberly Kyser
Vice-Chair Sean Murphy David Schwartz
Deputy Vice-Chair James Locke Susan Smith
Woodrow Burns James White
Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Roll Call
Staff Present: Jake Lowman, Liaison to Commission, Becky McDonnell, Liaison
to Commission, Anya Grahn, Liaison to Commission, Brian Ferrell, Counsel to
Commission
Present 8 - Chair Robert Epting, Vice-Chair Sean Murphy, Deputy
Vice-Chair James Locke, Woodrow Burns, Kimberly Kyser,
David Schwartz, Susan Smith, and James White
Commission Chair reads public charge
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Secretary swears in members of the public
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. April 9, 2019 Meeting Minutes [19-0412]
2. April 22, 2019 Meeting Minutes [19-0413]
The Commission requested that the minutes be amended to include further
description of the approved option for 723 Gimghoul. A motion was made by
Smith, seconded by Murphy, to approve the minutes as amended. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
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Aye: 8 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Murphy, Deputy Vice-Chair Locke,
Burns, Kyser, Schwartz, Smith, and White
HDC Candidate Interviews
3. Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [19-0414]
Candidates Diane Kunz, Nancy McCormick, Angela Steifbold, and John Sweet
introduced themselves to the Commission and explained their interest and
experience in historic preservation. Chair Epting recommended that the
Commission forward a recommendation to Town Council for all of the
candidates, including Commissioner Kyser who had re-applied.
A motion was made by Smith to recommend four of the five candidates: Nancy
McCormick, Angela Steifbold, John Sweet, and Kim Kyser; the motion failed
due to lack of a second.
A motion was made by Murphy, seconded by White, to forward a
recommendation to Town Council for all five candidates. The motion carried
by the following vote:
Aye: 7 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Murphy, Deputy Vice-Chair Locke,
Burns, Kyser, Schwartz, and White
Nay: 1 - Smith
Staff Communication
4. Tree Protection Presentation by Linda Smith, Assistant Director of
Parks & Recreation Dept.
Linda Smith, Interim Director of the Parks & Recreation Department, introduced
Arborist Adam Smith. He explained the environmental benefits of trees, the
impact of environmental changes and human interference on trees, and the role
of the arborist in maintaining the trees. Smith discussed his procedures for
inspecting, pruning, and removing trees as part of the Town's larger tree
replacement program. Commissioner Susan Smith referenced resources
available to property owners through Orange County.
Consent Agenda
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Murphy, for approval of the
Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness for the items shown on the Consent
Agenda, on the basis of the findings and conclusions proposed by staff for each of
those items. The motion carried unanimously.
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Aye: 8 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Murphy, Deputy Vice-Chair Locke,
Burns, Kyser, Schwartz, Smith, and White
5. 501 North Street [19-0415]
6. 305 E Rosemary Street [19-0416]
7. 602 E Rosemary Street [19-0417]
Old Business
8. 410 & 412 North Street [19-0418]
Ricky May, owner, presented revised elevations and discussed proposed
materials, setbacks and lot coverage, garage design, and history of a rock
wall.
Debra Finn, neighbor, discussed the random house placements and setbacks
of the existing houses along North STreet, and did not find the applicant's
proposed placement of the new house to be out of character.
The Commissioners reviewed the proposed plans for the new garage and
house. Commission members expressed concern about the proposed
two-story garage not being consistent with the Design Guidelines that call for
garages to maintain traditional heights, proportion, and orientation. They also
requested additional information about the dimensions of the house design.
They spoke to the traditional lot layouts that allowed for more space
surrounding the buildings on the site. There were also concerns about the
lack of documentation of the rock wall.
A motion was made by Smith to deny the application; it failed due to a lack of
second.
The Commission directed staff to prepare findings of fact to deny the
application based on their discussion for presentation at the next meeting, one
set for an alternative motion to approve and one siet for an alternative motion
to deny the application.
9. 306 N Boundary Street [19-0007]
Commission members Epting and Burns were recused by the Commission
from this agenda item.
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Vice chair Murphy reminded the commission that the only outstanding item not
previously determined by the Commission was the two story-garage. A motion
was made by Kyser, seconded by Schwartz, to reopen the public hearing.
The motion passed with a vote of 5-1 with Murphy in opposition.
Catherine Burns, neighbor, spoke about due process and her feeling that she
had been denied sufficient notice and opportunity to participate in this
proceeding, to the extent that her due process rights were violated.
No one else appeared to speak at the public hearing. A motion was made by
Kyser, seconded by Schwartz, to close the public hearing and it passed
without opposition.
Commissioners discussed the original design intent of the house and pointed
out that there was already a two-car attached garage on the lower level of the
house. They also discussed the scale, massing, adn neighboring views of the
garage. Commissioners cited Land Use Management Ordinance Criteria G
and Guideline 7 on page 21 of the Design Guidelines as being applicable to
this project. The commission acknowledged that the HDC had to take action
within 180 days of receiving a complete application per the Land Use
Management Ordinance, and that the Commission's 180 day window for
action will end on June 10, 2019, before the next regular meeting.
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Locke, to deny the garage
portion of the application. The motion failed with the following vote:
Aye: 4 - Deputy Vice-Chair Locke, Kyser, Schwartz, and Smith
Nay: 2 - Vice-Chair Murphy, and White
Recused: 2 - Chair Epting, and Burns
No other motions were proposed, and the Commission moved on to the next
agenda item.
New Business
10. 370 Glandon Drive [19-0419]
Jim Spencer, architect, presented a plan for a new residence on a vacant lot.
Spencer explained the topography of the site, size and placement of the new
house, as well as plans to maintain a stacked stone wall and existing trees.
Spencer presented an updated site plan that called for the preservation of five
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big trees.
Spencer explained the increased 45 foot setback in the existing HOA
covenants, and testified that he understood those covenants were being
changed to include a 35 foot setback. The property owner/applicant
confirmed this and asked the Commission to consider allowing the 35 foot
setback to be used instead of the 45 foot setback if the covenants are
changed in time to be used in the construction of the house.
Commission members discussed the massing of the proposed house, the
design for storage space above the garage, and the materials for the house
and new retaining walls. They expressed concern about the placement of a
stone barbecue beneath the side porch ceiling and requested it be relocated
into the backyard. The Commission also spoke to the scale of a bay window
on the garage, and the use of poured concrete as a material for the new
retaining walls. The architect responded to questions about maintenance of
the existing stacked stone walls. The Commission requested that the historic
retaining wall be documented prior to any demolition. .
A motion was made by White, seconded by Schwartz, to approve the project
with the stipulation that the bay window on the side of the garage be reduced
to a rectangular bay with shed roof and that the retaining wall be documented
prior to any demolition, so that it can be accurately replaced as part of the
building project. The motion passed unanimously with a vote of 8-0.
Aye: 8 - Chair Epting, Vice-Chair Murphy, Deputy Vice-Chair Locke,
Burns, Kyser, Schwartz, Smith, and White
11. 412 E. Rosemary Street [19-0420]
Without objection, the Commission moved to continue the public hearing to the
June 11, 2019, meeting
Staff Update
Brian Farrell, counsel to the Commission, informed the Commission that its decision
to deny two new single-family residences at 412 and 417 West Patterson Place was
upheld in a recent decision on the applicant's appeal to the Board of Adjustment.
12. Post Office Alley Improvements
Adjournment
Next Meeting - June 11, 2019
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Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending person
to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal control.
Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the meeting
until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development
Services Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org
for more information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair Robert Epting Kimberly Kyser
Vice-Chair Sean Murphy David Schwartz
Deputy Vice-Chair James Locke Susan Smith
Woodrow Burns James White
Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Roll Call
Commission Chair reads public charge
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Secretary swears in members of the public
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. April 9, 2019 Meeting Minutes [19-0412]
Attachments: April 9, 2019 Meeting Minutes
2. April 22, 2019 Meeting Minutes [19-0413]
Attachments: April 22, 2019 Meeting Minutes
HDC Candidate Interviews
3. Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [19-0414]
Attachments: Memo to HDC - 5.14.19
Candidate Applications
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Staff Communication
4. Tree Protection Presentation by Linda Smith, Assistant
Director of Parks & Recreation Dept.
Consent Agenda
5. 501 North Street [19-0415]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application materials
6. 305 E Rosemary Street [19-0416]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
7. 602 E Rosemary Street [19-0417]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Old Business
8. 410 & 412 North Street [19-0418]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Supplemental Application Materials for the
May 14, 2019 meeting
9. 306 N Boundary Street [19-0007]
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Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Additional Evidence Submitted by
Applicant at January 8, 2019 Meeting
Additional Evidence Submitted by Public
at January 8, 2019 Meeting
Supplementary Application Materials
Submitted for the February 12, 2019
Meeting
Additional Evidence Submitted by
Catharine Burns at February 12, 2019
Meeting
Additional Evidence Submitted by
Woodrow Burns at February 12, 2019
Meeting
Supplementary Application Materials for
the March 12, 2019 Meeting
Applicant Presentation from January 8,
2019 Meeting
Applicant Presentation from February 12,
2019 Meeting
Additional Evidence Submitted by Public
at March 12, 2019 Meeting
Additional Evidence Submitted for the
April 22, 2019 Meeting
Memo from Applicant Requesting to
Reopen Public Hearing at April 22, 2019
Meeting
Site Plan Submitted at April 22, 2019
Meeting
New Business
10. 370 Glandon Drive [19-0419]
Attachments: 370 Glandon Drive Staff Report
5.14.2019-updated
Application Materials
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11. 412 E. Rosemary Street [19-0420]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Staff Update
12. Post Office Alley Improvements
Adjournment
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development Services
Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more
information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 4 of 4 Printed on 5/14/2019
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