Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · September 10, 2019
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair Robert Epting Diane Kunz
Vice-Chair Sean Murphy Nancy McCormick
David Schwartz Angela Stiefbold
Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Roll Call
Staff Present: Anya Grahn, Liaison to Commission, Becky McDonnell, Liaison
to Commission, Brian Ferrell, Counsel to Commission
Present 6 - Robert Epting, Vice-Chair Sean Murphy, Deputy Vice-Chair
Diane Kunz, Nancy McCormick, Chair David Schwartz, and
Angela Stiefbold
Commission Chair reads public charge
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Secretary swears in members of the public
Approval of Agenda
A motion was made by McCormick, seconded by Schwartz, to approve the
September 10, 2019 agenda. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Announcements
Petitions
Catherine Burns presented a petition calling for the Commission to exercise their full
responsibilities as permitted by their Certified Local Government (CLG) designation.
Specifically she mentioned the Commission working closely with property owners to
find alternatives to demolition and updating the public on the proposed Land Use
Management Ordinance (LUMO) text amendments. She urged the Commission to
be civil and fair to all. She also discussed an interest in following Raleigh's model for
design review.
Susan Smith was interested in the Commission doing more courtesy reviews,
especially of complex projects, to ensure applications will be congruous with the
special character of the district. She explained her experience attending a design
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committee meeting in Raleigh.
Election of Commission Officers
Chair Epting explained that the election of officers would occur at the end of the
meeting.
a. Election of Chair
Kunz nominated Schwartz as Chair; no other nominations were made. A motion
was made by Murphy, seconded by Kunz, to elect Schwartz as Chair by
acclimation; the motion carried unanimously.
b. Election of Vice Chair
Schwartz nominated Murphy for Vice-Chair. There were no other nominations.
By unanimous vote, Murphy was elected Vice Chair by acclimation.
c. Election of Deputy Vice-Chair
A motion was made by Epting, seconded by Schwartz to elect Kunz as Deputy
Vice Chair by acclimation. There were no other nominations, and the motion
passed unanimously.
Approval of Minutes
1. July 9, 2019 Meeting Minutes [19-0707]
A motion was made by Murphy, seconded by Schwartz, to approve the July 9,
2019 minutes. The motion carried by a vote of 5-0; Stiefbold abstained from
the vote.
Aye: 5 - Epting, Vice-Chair Murphy, Deputy Vice-Chair Kunz,
McCormick, and Chair Schwartz
Abstain: 1 - Stiefbold
HDC Candidate Interviews
2. Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [19-0708]
Chair Epting explained there are three (3) vacant seats on the Commission.
Without objection, this item was moved to the October meeting to allow
additional qualified applicants the chance to apply and would be present at
the next meeting.
Staff Communication
3. Short Term Rentals [19-0709]
Anya Grahn, Town staff, provided an overview of the Short Term Rental
(STR) topic. She explained the different types of rentals, the number of
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rentals in the community, and the Council's direction to create updated
regulations for STRs.
Members of the community spoke and expressed concerns about potential
regulations. Some explained their ability to afford their homes due to the
revenue brought in by their STR. Others described how they have worked
with their neighbors to reduce concerns. Michele De Fosset explained she
would be petitioning the Council the following night to request the topic be
expanded to include student rentals.
Consent Agenda
4. 313 E. Franklin Street [19-0710]
Staff Liaison Grahn introduced the application, explaining that it was an
after-the-fact Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) application for the
replacement of existing sidewalks and pathways with light- and
medium-colored pavers.
The Commission found that this was not an in-kind replacement as the red
bricks were replaced with larger, concrete pavers. They pointed out that the
new pavers had a rounded edge, while the original bricks had square edges.
They did not believe the material was compatible as it did not match the
original.
David Phillips, contractor, discussed his difficulty purchasing red bricks. The
Commission believed red bricks were available for purchase.
Chair Epting proposed that this item be continued to the October 2019
Historic District Commission meeting. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
5. 716 Gimghoul Road [19-0711]
Staff Liaison Grahn explained that this was an after-the-fact COA application
for modifications to an existing pergola, including the partial reconstruction of
the pergola with a modified roof pitch. She explained that the applicant was
also requesting to screen in the structure.
Property owner Benjamin Brodey explained the structure's deterioration and
that his repairs had exceeded the original scope.
A motion was made by Murphy, seconded by Stiefbold, to approve the
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application based upon the findings of fact and conclusions of law proposed
by the staff in the Staff Report. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
6. 224 E. McCauley Street [19-0712]
Staff Liaison Grahn explained the proposal to extend an existing gravel
driveway to create a gravel parking area in the backyard.
Property owner Rig Patel presented the design for the parking area. He
explained there would be adequate parking for five cars, allowing them to turn
around without impeding on the existing landscaping; this would prevent
damage to existing mature trees. He summarized the health of an existing
tree and two arborists' recommendations for protecting the tree.
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Murphy, to approve the
application based upon the findings of fact and conclusions of law proposed
by the staff in the Staff Report. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
7. 500 North Street [19-0713]
Staff Liaison Grahn presented the after-the-fact COA application for a siding
replacement. She explained that in April the Commission had approved the
replacement of a wavy-shingle asbestos siding with a new cement board
siding of a similar profile. She explained that the applicant was seeking
approval for a more square-cut shingle siding.
The Commission found that as the house had been built in 1939, the
wavy-shingle asbestos siding was likely the original material. They discussed
that the siding that had been approved in April appeared closer to the original
siding material than the installed siding. The Commission also found that the
height and width of the shingle differed significantly from the original.
The HDC opened the public hearing. Linda Brown discussed how applicants
find ways of going around the Commission. She did not find that this style of
shingle was similar to any others in the neighborhood.
Chair Epting proposed, without objection, that this item be continued to the
October 2019 Historic District Commission meeting. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
Old Business
8. 203 Battle Lane [19-0714]
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Architect Bret Horton reviewed the Commission's approval from July. He
explained his intent to restore the existing metal shed and construct a new
shed on site. He discussed challenges of parking and accessing the site. He
explained how ADA parking was relocated to make it more convenient to enter
the house and the terrace. He described modifications his team had made to
the dimensions, materials, and design of the ADA ramp.
He also proposed changes to the Commission's approval from July. He
explained that fiberglass windows were not available in the size required; he
was considering replacing the proposed windows with aluminum-clad wood
windows. The Commission discussed opportunities for replacing the windows
with aluminum clad and explained that the windows should be replaced
in-kind, meaning new wood windows. The HDC directed the applicant to
return with a proposal at a future date.
A motion was made by Murphy, seconded by Schwartz, to approve the
application based upon the findings of fact and conclusions of law proposed
by the staff in the Staff Report. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
New Business
9. 108 W. Cameron Avenue - Certificate of Appropriateness [19-0715]
Attorney Kevin Hornik summarized the applicant's request for an after-the-fact
COA for exterior changes. In 2018, the fraternity had constructed a raised
brick patio with an enclosed porch. Shortly thereafter, the applicant had
replaced the screened openings with simulated, divided light vinyl windows,
similar in design to those on the main house; the windows prevented water
from entering into the covered patio. They had also installed a metal circular
staircase to connect the upper patio to the ground level based on the fire
marshall requiring an emergency exit. On the northwest corner of the
property, an existing patio was uncovered and rebuilt of red brick with a new
fieldstone retaining wall surrounding the patio. The fraternity also replaced an
existing parking area with new lawn space.
The Commission reviewed the changes. They were supportive of removing
the parking area. They believed that the patio and wall were likely a
replacement of what had originally existed. They understood the need for the
metal staircase. They believed the windows were an improvement to the
design of the patio. They found the changes were congruous with the district.
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by McCormick, to approve the
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applications based upon the findings of fact and conclusions of law proposed
by the staff in the Staff Report. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
10. 108 W. Cameron Avenue - Concept Plan [19-0716]
Counsel Ferrell explained that the Commission could provide any additional
comments they had about the concept plan. Chair Epting clarified that the
Commission had approved the COA, and this reflected the HDC's approval of
the concept plan specific to this site.
11. 408 Hillsborough - Concept Plan [19-0717]
Architect Phil Szostak explained the history of the site. He pointed out the
current defects of the building which required upgrades. He presented the
site plan, describing proposed changes to the parking lot, landscaping, and
garbage storage. He proposed constructing new at-grade patios with decks
above to provide residents with outdoor space and views of the green space.
He described his proposal to replace the existing red spandrels with new
glass to create floor-to-ceiling windows.
The Commission provided individual comments on the proposal:
Chair Epting remembered that the modern red color was new and that the
building was originally a brownish-red; he believed it was time for the building
to be refreshed. Epting also discussed the challenge of the grade and his
preference to preserve the building. He thought the parking lot was what was
unattractive about the site. While he willingly supported this concept plan as
a way to preserve an original Modernist structure in the District, he cautioned
that this approval should not be taken as encouragement for new or expanded
multi-family uses in the Historic District.
Schwartz thought the buildings had some architectural significance as an
exemplar of a significant style and period. He was glad to see it reused and
that its Mid Century appearance would be preserved. He believed that the
neighbors concerns about noise were not coming from this site, but from
behind this site. He wanted to see the buildings remain red.
Murphy thought the original design of the buildings was very simple. He
thought that the proposed ralings detracted from the design and asked the
architect to consider ways to tuck in the railings to make them appear more
symmetrical with the decks. He asked if the new columns supporting the deck
could be removed or possibly reduced in size to emphasize the horizontality of
the building's design.
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Stiefbold wanted to see the project maintain the same character as the red
banding and horizontality, rather than emphasizing the verticality of the
design.
The architect described the construction schedule and possible staging.
Adjournment
Next Meeting - DATE
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development
Services Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org
for more information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair Robert Epting Diane Kunz
Vice-Chair Sean Murphy Nancy Mccormick
David Schwartz Angela Stiefbold
Tuesday, September 10, 2019 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Opening
Roll Call
Commission Chair reads public charge
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Secretary swears in members of the public
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Election of Commission Officers
a. Election of Chair
b. Election of Vice Chair
c. Election of Deputy Vice-Chair
Approval of Minutes
1. July 9, 2019 Meeting Minutes [19-0707]
Attachments: July 9, 2019 Meeting Minutes
HDC Candidate Interviews
2. Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [19-0708]
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Attachments: Memo to HDC
Candidate Applications
Staff Communication
3. Short Term Rentals [19-0709]
Attachments: Draft Staff Presentation
Review information about the ongoing efforts to address Short Term Rentals
(STR). Staff is requesting the HDC appoint a champion to the STR task force.
The group will meet regularly with exact times, dates and locations to be
determined.
Consent Agenda
4. 313 E. Franklin Street [19-0710]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
5. 716 Gimghoul Road [19-0711]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
6. 224 E. McCauley Street [19-0712]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
7. 500 North Street [19-0713]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Old Business
8. 203 Battle Lane [19-0714]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
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New Business
9. 108 W. Cameron Avenue - Certificate of [19-0715]
Appropriateness
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
10. 108 W. Cameron Avenue - Concept Plan [19-0716]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
11. 408 Hillsborough - Concept Plan [19-0717]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Adjournment
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Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning and Development Services
Department at 919-969-5066; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more
information on the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
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