Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · March 12, 2024
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair Brian Daniels Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde Duncan Lascelles
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick Clarke Martin
Michael Booth David Schwartz
Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Language Access Statement
Opening
Roll Call
Anya Grahn-Federmack, Staff Liaison, Charnika Harrell, Staff Liaison, Kevin
Hornik, Counsel to the Commission
Present 6 - Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde, Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy
McCormick, Michael Booth, Josh Gurlitz, Duncan
Lascelles, and David Schwartz
Absent 2 - Chair Brian Daniels , and Clarke Martin
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Commission Chair reads the Public Charge
Approval of Agenda
Commissioner McCormick moved, seconded by Gurlitz, to approve the amended
agenda. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Aye: 6 - Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde, Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy
McCormick, Michael Booth, Josh Gurlitz, Duncan Lascelles,
and David Schwartz
Absent: 2 - Chair Brian Daniels , and Clarke Martin
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Announcements
Grahn-Federmack informed commissioners that the April meeting would be
canceled due to lack of quorum. She also reminded the commissioners to complete
a poll to share their availability for a special meeting to vote on the night’s written
decisions.
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. February 13, 2024 Action Minutes [24-0104]
Commissioner Gurlitz moved, seconded by McCormick, to approve the
February 13, 2024, minutes. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Aye: 6 - Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde, Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy
McCormick, Michael Booth, Josh Gurlitz, Duncan Lascelles,
and David Schwartz
Absent: 2 - Chair Brian Daniels , and Clarke Martin
Information
2. Administrative Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) Approvals & [24-0105]
Maintenance Memos
Commissioner Schwartz asked for clarity on staff approval authority for
generators. Grahn-Federmack stated that generators were treated like
mechanical equipment and pointed to the sustainability section of the Design
Principles and Standards. Schwartz also asked for confirmation that the brick
walkway for 735 Gimghoul Road would be brick and not concrete pavers.
Grahn-Federmack confirmed.
Old Business
3. 740 Gimghoul Road [24-0106]
Chris Jones stated that his presentation focused on the proposed fence
around the pool. He presented photos and Google map images of wood
fences along Gimghoul Road. He also presented a photo of the subject
property from the street to demonstrate how the landscaped area along the
street screened the property. He explained that the revised proposal was for a
4-foot-tall white, picket wood fence. He presented a photo and
three-dimensional rendering of what the fence would look like and dimensions
of the fence. He also presented a site plan to show the fence’s location.
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Commissioner Schwartz asked Jones to confirm the height of the fence.
Jones confirmed that the fence would be 4 feet tall, which was required by
building code for pool fences. He also mentioned that some of the photos he
presented earlier were of fences 4 feet tall, or greater.
There was no public comment.
There was no discussion among commissioners.
Commissioner Lascelles moved, seconded by McCormick, that the application
was not incongruous with the special character of the district. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
Lascelles and Schwartz asked Counsel Hornik about whether the motion
needed to include granting the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA). Hornik
explained that the commission would vote on the written decision at the next
meeting, and that the written decision would include language about granting
the COA.
New Business
4. 103 South Boundary Street [24-0107]
Grahn-Federmack explained that the application was for stone walls, a patio,
and a fence.
Page Gravely, the property owner, stated that his application was for low
stone walls for aesthetic
purposes, a fence in the backyard for his dog, and a hardscape patio of
natural Pennsylvania bluestone.
Gravely presented a site plan of the property. He explained that the low stone
wall would extend from two existing pillars that frame the existing driveway
along Boundary Street. He presented photos of the pillars and said the new
stone wall would be 18 to 20 inches tall.
Gravely presented photos of his backyard. He explained that the proposed
fence would fill in gaps between fences on neighboring properties. He said he
would shift the location of the existing shed so it could serve as an added
barrier and reduce the length of fence needed to enclose the backyard. He
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presented photos of a fence with a lattice design at the top. He said the fence
would be 6-feet tall with two 4-foot-tall gates. He mentioned that the proposed
fence would be like what was shown in the photos, but the lattice would be
more transparent. He also said the fence would be stained to match the
existing fence on the property.
Gravely presented photos of the existing sunroom to show the proposed
location of the patio. He mentioned that one of the glass windows panes of
the sunroom would be replaced with a glass door. He did not present a photo
of the proposed glass door but said it would be glass to maintain the look of
the existing windows. He presented photos of Pennsylvania bluestone for the
patio and said that the patio would be about 20 inches tall. He also mentioned
that he planned to add more landscaping in the backyard.
Commissioner McCormick asked about moving the shed. Gravely said that he
wanted to angle its location to fill in a gap between neighboring fences.
McCormick asked if staff could approve the final design of the fence. Gravely
confirmed that the fence would be of the same dimensions as the photo he
presented. Commissioner Lascelles asked if the fence would be visible from
the street. Gravely confirmed that it would not be visible.
There was no public comment.
Commissioner Gurlitz moved, seconded by Booth, that the application was not
incongruous with the special character of the district. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
Aye: 6 - Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde, Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy
McCormick, Michael Booth, Josh Gurlitz, Duncan Lascelles,
and David Schwartz
Absent: 2 - Chair Brian Daniels , and Clarke Martin
5. 304 South Columbia Street [24-0108]
Grahn-Federmack explained that the application was to replace an existing
metal shed, replace panels on an existing dumpster enclosure, and replace a
canvas canopy with a wood portico.
David Swanson, a landscape architect, stated that the existing fraternity
building was not a contributing structure. He presented a photo that showed
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the building’s location. He explained that the portico was located on the rear
of the building and would not be visible from Columbia Street. He presented a
photo of the existing canvas canopy and an existing rear porch. He presented
an elevation of the proposed portico and explained that it borrowed elements
from the rear porch and front election, mainly the columns. He also explained
that the brick walkway underneath the portico would be widened.
Swanson presented a photo of the existing metal shed. He said the proposed
shed would be two feet longer and would have wood siding and a shingle
roof. He said the new shed would be in the same location and orientation.
Swanson presented a photo of the existing dumpster enclosure. He also
presented two options for dark-colored metal gates, one with solid doors and
the other with metal slats. He said their interest was to change the color and
material of the gate from white vinyl. He said they preferred the solid design.
Commissioner Schwartz asked if the applicant was seeking approval for both
options for the dumpster enclosure. Swanson said they preferred a solid,
simpler design. Commissioner van de Velde asked if both options were metal.
Swanson confirmed they were. Commissioner Gurlitz said he liked the slatted
gate design but did not like that it was mimicking a wood gate.
There was no public comment.
Commissioner Booth said the base and capital of the proposed portico
columns appeared disproportionate. Booth said the capital was too tall.
John Hawkins, an architect, was sworn in. Hawkins said the columns were
designed to match the existing columns on the house, and that the columns
were unique to the building. Hawkins offered to adjust the proportions.
Gurlitz agreed with Booth but said he did not have a strong opinion about the
applicant adjusting the size. Schwartz asked if adjusting the size made the
columns more congruous.
Counsel Hornik asked commissioners if they expected the applicant to return
later with an elevation drawing of the revised columns or if they were
prepared to decide on whether the application was incongruous.
Booth reiterated that he thought the base of the columns should be taller than
the capital. Hornik advised that the commission would need to determine the
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revised proportions of the columns if they were prepared to vote without a
revised elevation.
Commissioner Schwartz moved, seconded by Gurlitz, that the application was
not incongruous with the special character of the district, provided that the
height of the base of the columns is greater than the capital.
Several commissioners mentioned the design of the gate of the dumpster
enclosure. Hornik suggested the commission amend the motion to include
their selection of the gate to the dumpster enclosure. Schwartz accepted the
amendment to the motion to include the gate with the flush-panel design.
Gurlitz seconded the amended motion. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
Aye: 6 - Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde, Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy
McCormick, Michael Booth, Josh Gurlitz, Duncan Lascelles,
and David Schwartz
Absent: 2 - Chair Brian Daniels , and Clarke Martin
Adjournment
Next Meeting - April 9, 2024
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
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Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair Brian Daniels Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde Duncan Lascelles
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick Clarke Martin
Michael Booth David Schwartz
Tuesday, March 12, 2024 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Language Access Statement
Opening
Roll Call
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Commission Chair reads the Public Charge
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. February 13, 2024 Action Minutes [24-0104]
Attachments: February 13, 2024 Draft HDC Meeting
Minutes
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 1 of 3 Printed on 2/27/2024
Historic District Commission Meeting Agenda March 12, 2024
Information
2. Administrative Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) [24-0105]
Approvals & Maintenance Memos
Attachments: COA Approval Report and Maintenance
Memos - 3.12.2024
Old Business
3. 740 Gimghoul Road [24-0106]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Revised Application Materials
New Business
4. 103 South Boundary Street [24-0107]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials
5. 304 South Columbia Street [24-0108]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials
Adjournment
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Historic District Commission Meeting Agenda March 12, 2024
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 3 of 3 Printed on 2/27/2024
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