Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · August 13, 2024
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair Brian Daniels Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde Duncan Lascelles
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick Clarke Martin
Michael Booth
Tuesday, August 13, 2024 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Language Access Statement
Opening
Roll Call
Anya Grahn-Federmack, Staff Liaison, Charnika Harrell, Staff Liaison, Anna
Scott Myers, Staff, and Lydia Lavelle, Council to the Commission
Present 6 - Chair Brian Daniels , Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde,
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick, Michael Booth,
Josh Gurlitz, and Clarke Martin
Absent 1 - Duncan Lascelles
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Commission Chair reads the Public Charge
Approval of Agenda
The Commission chose to continue the discussion of the HDC procedures and
State Model Ordinance to their September meeting. A motion was made by
Vice-Chair van de Velde, seconded by Gurlitz, to approve agenda as amended. The
motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Announcements
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Grahn-Federmack introduced Lydia Lavelle as the replacement counsel
representative for the meeting. She also introduced Planner Anna Scott Myers.
Grahn Federmack also reminded commissioners of officer elections held in
September.
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. June 17, 2024 Action Minutes [24-0403]
A motion was made by Vice-Chair van de Velde, seconded by Deputy
Vice-Chair McCormick, to approve the June 17, 2024, minutes. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
Information
2. Administrative Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) Approvals & [24-0409]
Maintenance Memos
Grahn-Federmack informed commissioners that staff already approved
administrative COA items for 400 E Franklin Street to help them start work
while students were on break.
3. Certified Local Government (CLG) Annual Report [24-0410]
Grahn-Federmack explained that staff compiles and shares information with
the State Historic Preservation office to maintain the Town's Certified Local
Government (CLG) status. She said this information is shared with the
Commission annually.
Consent
4. 3 Mint Springs Lane [24-0411]
There was no public comment.
A motion was made by Commissioner van de Velde, seconded by Booth, that
the application was not incongruous with the special character of the district
and to grant the Certificate of Appropriateness. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
New Business
5. 400 E. Franklin Street [24-0412]
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Katherine Lynn, Vice President for Capital Planning and Finance for the
University of North Carolina, introduced the application. She discussed
security and safety concerns due to uninvited visitors to the property. She
explained there have been several instances of people peering in windows,
parking in the driveway, and even sleeping on the porch. Lynn told the
commission the property is the president’s private residence, and they had
tried to mitigate the problem with signage and redirecting traffic.
John Hawkins, project architect, said he worked with David Swanson, the
applicant and primary designer.
Hawkins described the main components of the application. They proposed
4-foot-tall steel fencing to provide a continuous perimeter as well as new
4-foot-tall fieldstone piers at the pedestrian entrance that would hold a new
steel gate. They also requested vehicular and pedestrian gates at the
driveway. The new fence areas would be fully enclosed by new and existing
landscaping to shield the appearance of the fence from the sidewalk and
street view.
Hawkins explained the vehicular entrance would also have fieldstone piers
and a pedestrian gate. He also noted the driveway turnaround was sited to
not impact nearby trees.
Hawkins presented images showing the position and scale of the vehicular
gate. Hawkins provided elevation drawings of the vehicular gate flanked by
fieldstone piers designed to match stonework around the site. He presented a
photo of the vehicular gate at the UNC Chancellor's residence on Raleigh
Road and explained the proposed vehicular gate would be similar in design.
Hawkins provided photos of pedestrian gates in the historic district and
explained how their proposal for a pedestrian gate across the front walkway
was similar in design and placement. He presented section view renderings to
show the relationship between the street, proposed fences, and landscaping
on Raleigh Road and East Franklin Street.
Commissioner McCormick asked if the front vehicular gate would be fully
open or if it would have a panel at the bottom. Hawkins clarified that there will
be a black steel panel on the vehicular gate to hide the control hardware and
match the fencing color, but the pedestrian gate will not have a panel.
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Commissioner van de Velde asked about the lowest point of the vehicular
gate. Hawkins explained that the fence is 4-foot-tall and gates are 4-foot or
taller. He said they were trying to treat the historic property with respect and
make a statement that it is not open to the public.
Chair Daniels asked where the fence along Raleigh Road would be in relation
to the stone wall and pedestrians. Hawkins showed the section view on
Raleigh Road and noted the terraces created by stone retaining walls and
sidewalk. Daniels asked if a pedestrian on Raleigh Road would see a
6-foot-tall fence. Hawkins explained the fence would barely be visible through
the landscaping, but it would be elevated above the sidewalk.
There was no public comment.
Daniels voiced concern about the height of the gate and fence. He was also
concerned with setting a precedence when fences in the front yard are
discouraged by the design standards. Gurlitz and van de Velde disagreed.
They thought the fence would be valuable to the security concerns for the
property.
A motion was made by Commissioner van de Velde, seconded by Booth, that
the application was not incongruous with the special character of the district
and to grant the Certificate of Appropriateness. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
Chair Daniels moved to approve the written decision as amended. The
motion carried with a unanimous vote.
6. 500 North Street [24-0413]
Dorian Tallman, explained that the application was the result of being cited for
parking violations by code enforcement. He said there were six bedrooms in
the duplex, which likely resulted in tenants having up to six cars.
Tallman acknowledged that off-street parking in the front yard was not ideal,
but he believed it would help mitigate traffic congestion and safety concerns
along North Street. He presented photos of where the proposed parking area
would be located and stated that it would accommodate two more cars in
addition to the two cars in the driveway.
Tallman offered additional landscaping to help screen the parking area from
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view.
Commissioner van de Velde asked Tallman to clarify whether a timber border
was proposed, as indicated in the application materials. Tallman confirmed
they would border the driveway and parking area with timbers to contain the
ABC gravel, as proposed in the application.
Chair Daniels asked if it was possible to locate the parking in the backyard.
Tallman confirmed that one car could possibly fit in a backyard space. He was
not sure if there was enough turn around space for two cars.
There was no public comment.
Commissioners Booth and Martin commented that landscaping would be
helpful to screen the parking area on the street. Martin also thought front yard
parking was congruous with the neighboring properties.
Commissioner Gurlitz acknowledged the lack of sidewalks on North Street,
forcing pedestrians to walk in the street when cars park on the street.
Chair Daniels suggested they continue the item to the September 10th
meeting and that the applicant review the Design Standards. Commissioner
van de Velde asked if Tallman could provide more details of the landscaping.
A motion was made by McCormick, seconded by Gurlitz, to continue the
application to September 10th meeting. The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
7. 214 Pittsboro Street [24-0414]
Andrew Goolsby, project architect, explained the accessibility and safety
challenges of the building built in the 1960s. He said the application included
plans to demolish and reconstruct the sidewalks, patio area, and curb cuts to
create an ADA compliant entry sequence into the building.
Goolsby discussed the excessive daylighting in the main assembly space. He
said the current building has a double height window wall that is recessed
from the rear elevation and faces the main assembly space used throughout
the day. He presented plans to replace the current window with an opaque
wall with punched openings. He proposed a wall of metal panels, storefront
glazing, punched openings, precast elements, and brick to replace the
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existing fenestration. Goolsby acknowledged that the new materials were not
consistent with the district, but he thought they were consistent with the
existing building. He explained that the new design would have vertical
reveals and use color glazing to mimic a church’s stained glass.
Commissioner Gurlitz asked Goolsby to explain the finish of the metal panels.
Goolsby said the original panels were bronze and the new panels would be
dark bronze. Commissioner van de Velde asked if the paint finish would be
sun tolerant. Goolsby confirmed and explained that the new finish would be a
similar material to standing seam metal roofs.
McCormick asked if there was a way to keep the existing vertical structure of
the window wall and fill it in. Goolsby explained that the wall was a built-up
wood system that was starting to delaminate and there were leaks coming
through the structure. He said that they explored other options but determined
that full replacement was the best option.
There was no public comment.
A motion was made by McCormick, seconded by van de Velde, that the
application was not incongruous with the special character of the district and
to grant the Certificate of Appropriateness. The motion carried by a
unanimous vote.
Discussion
8. Committee Update on the LUMO Project [24-0309]
The Commission Subcommittee shared their final recommendations for the
new Land Use Management Ordinance (LUMO) that they intended to share
with Council. Chair Daniels explained their interest in maintaining the historic
district’s design standards, creating transition zones around all three local
historic districts, and suggesting a pattern book for in-fill development.
Commissioner Gurlitz asked if pattern books were a possibility and reiterated
the transition zones were a critical part of the recommendation. Commissioner
Martin voiced concern over whether reviewing development within the
proposed transition zones would be in the purview of the HDC. The
commission agreed to continue the conversation with staff and Town Council.
9. HDC Procedures & State Model Ordinance [24-0408]
Adjournment
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Next Meeting - September 10, 2024
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair Brian Daniels Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde Duncan Lascelles
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick Clarke Martin
Michael Booth
Tuesday, August 13, 2024 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Language Access Statement
Opening
Roll Call
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Commission Chair reads the Public Charge
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. June 17, 2024 Action Minutes [24-0403]
Attachments: June 17, 2024 Draft Action Minutes
Information
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 1 of 3 Printed on 7/29/2024
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2. Administrative Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) [24-0409]
Approvals & Maintenance Memos
Attachments: COA Approval Report and Maintenance
Memos -8.13.2024
3. Certified Local Government (CLG) Annual Report [24-0410]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Staff Presentation
Chapel Hill CLG Report FY2022-23
Consent
4. 3 Mint Springs Lane [24-0411]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials
New Business
5. 400 E. Franklin Street [24-0412]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials
6. 500 North Street [24-0413]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials
7. 214 Pittsboro Street [24-0414]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials
Discussion
8. Committee Update on the LUMO Project [24-0309]
Attachments: HDC and LUMO subcommiteee 6.5.24
HDC and LUMO subcommiteee 7.19.24
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9. HDC Procedures & State Model Ordinance [24-0408]
Attachments: Historic District Commission Report -
4.5.2019
Adjournment
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 3 of 3 Printed on 7/29/2024
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