Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · November 12, 2024
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair Brian Daniels David Hawisher
Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde Duncan Lascelles
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick Clarke Martin
Michael Booth Don Tise
Josh Gurlitz
Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
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Opening
Roll Call
Anya Grahn-Federmack, Staff Liaison, Charnika Harrell, Staff Liaison, Anna
Scott Myers, Staff Liaison, Kevin Hornik, Counsel to the Commission
Present 7 - Chair Brian Daniels , Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde,
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick, Michael Booth,
Josh Gurlitz, David Hawisher, and Don Tise
Absent 2 - Duncan Lascelles, and Clarke Martin
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Secretary reads procedures into the record
Commission Chair reads the Public Charge
Approval of Agenda
A motion was made by Deputy Vice-Chair McCormick, seconded by Vice-Chair van
de Velde, to approve the agenda. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Announcements
Grahn-Federmack announced the 2025 Historic District Commission’s meeting
dates were attached to the agenda. She also informed the commission there were
four applications on the December agenda and the commission would meet in
person.
Chair Daniels introduced Don Tise, a new commissioner.
1. 2025 Meeting Dates and Deadlines [24-0514]
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
2. October 8, 2024 Action Minutes [24-0515]
A motion was made by Vice-Chair van de Velde, seconded by Deputy
Vice-Chair McCormick, to approve the October 8,2024 meeting minutes. The
motion carried by a unanimous vote.
New Business
3. Administrative Certificate of Appropriateness Approvals [24-0516]
Discussion
4. Pattern Books [24-0517]
Grahn-Federmack gave a brief presentation on pattern books. She focused
on the background and history of pattern books and the benefits and the
challenges for developers and the municipality.
Commissioner McCormick asked if prefabricated homes were an option and
why they are not used more frequently. Commissioner Gurlitz explained that
prefabrication is often used for tiny homes, Commissioner Tise added
prefabrication can take longer and is more difficult, so it is not used as much.
Gurlitz explained that prefabrication construction can add extra challenges for
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the municipality, often requiring inspectors to visit factories to review
construction materials and processes.
Commissioner Hawisher asked about the application of the pattern book and
the Historic District Commission’s role for Certificates of Appropriateness.
Counsel Hornik explained by developing the pattern book to include materials,
designs, etc. that the HDC would deem to be not incongruous with the special
character, the pattern book might create an expectation for COA approval.
Hornik further explained that applicants would still need to provide materials in
an evidentiary hearing, but the pattern book could create a baseline of
understanding for property owners of what is likely to be approved.
McCormick voiced concerns about the lack of buildable space and wanted to
know how many sites within the Historic Districts the pattern book would apply
to. Daniels said his understanding of the pattern books was to promote
complimentary design for infill development in areas that are under intense
development pressure. McCormick asked how restrictive covenants would fit
into the pattern books. Hornik responded that restrictive covenants are largely
irrelevant in the COA process.
A motion was made by Chair Daniels, seconded by Vice-Chair van de Velde,
to create an exploratory subcommittee with the charter to further investigate
the feasibility and implications of a pattern book for the Historic Districts.
Daniels, Tise, Gurlitz and Booth volunteered to participate in the
subcommittee. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Adjournment
Next Meeting - December 10, 2024
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
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manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair Brian Daniels Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde David Hawisher
Deputy Vice-Chair Nancy McCormick Duncan Lascelles
Michael Booth Clarke Martin
Tuesday, November 12, 2024 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Language Access Statement
Virtual Meeting Notification
Opening
Roll Call
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Commission Chair reads the Public Charge
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
1. 2025 Meeting Dates and Deadlines [24-0514]
Attachments: Historic District Commission 2025 Meeting
Dates and Deadlines
Petitions
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 1 of 3 Printed on 10/29/2024
Historic District Commission Meeting Agenda November 12, 2024
Approval of Minutes
2. October 8, 2024 Action Minutes [24-0515]
Attachments: 10.8.2024 Meeting Minutes
New Business
3. Administrative Certificate of Appropriateness [24-0516]
Approvals
Attachments: COA Approval Report
Discussion
4. Pattern Books [24-0517]
Attachments: Pattern Books - Staff Memo 10.25.2024
Adjournment
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Historic District Commission Meeting Agenda November 12, 2024
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 3 of 3 Printed on 10/29/2024
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