Town Council
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · May 9, 2018
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Town Council Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes - Final
Mayor Pam Hemminger Council Member Nancy Oates
Mayor pro tem Jessica Anderson Council Member Michael Parker
Council Member Donna Bell Council Member Rachel Schaevitz
Council Member Allen Buansi Council Member Karen Stegman
Council Member Hongbin Gu
Wednesday, May 9, 2018 7:00 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Roll Call
Present: 9 - Mayor Pam Hemminger, Mayor pro tem Jessica Anderson,
Council Member Donna Bell, Council Member Allen Buansi,
Council Member Hongbin Gu, Council Member Nancy Oates,
Council Member Michael Parker, Council Member Karen
Stegman, and Council Member Rachel Schaevitz
Other Attendees
Town Manager Roger L. Stancil, Deputy Town Manager Florentine Miller, Town Attorney
Ralph Karpinos, Communications Manager Catherine Lazorko, Planning and Development
Services Operations Manager Judy Johnson, Senior Planner Aaron Frank, Assistant Chief
of Police Jabe Hunter, Community Resilience Officer John Richardson, Assistant Town
Manager Mary Jane Nirdlinger, Business Management Director Kenneth C. Pennoyer,
Director of Planning and Development Services Ben Hitchings, Fire Inspector Greg Peeler,
Planner II Jake Lowman, Housing & Community Executive Director Loryn Clark, Business
Management Assistant Director Amy Oland, Budget Manager Matt Brinkley, Economic
Development Officer Dwight Bassett, Principal Planner Corey Liles, Deputy Town Clerk Amy
Harvey
OPENING
a. Successes Video - Transforming Ideas [18-0431]
Mayor Hemminger opened the meeting at 7:00 pm and introduced a short
video about improvements in downtown Chapel Hill. The video showed
how the Town was responding to citizens' interests and ideas. Mayor
Hemminger noted that staff spent extra time and energy preparing for
special events, such as UNC's upcoming graduation weekend. She
specifically thanked Doug Rothwell, a Chapel Hill resident, for proposing
ideas that had made a difference downtown.
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b. Proclamation - Mental Awareness Month [18-0432]
Council Member Bell read a proclamation regarding a nationwide effort to
reduce the stigma associated with mental health challenges and to
increase awareness of related resources. The petition proclaimed May
2018 to be Mental Health Awareness Month in Chapel Hill and called upon
citizens to increase awareness and understanding of mental health issues
and to help improve the array of mental health services. North Carolina
served individuals and families who were living with mental illness through
the National Alliance on Mental Illness Orange County (NAMI OC), Council
Member Bell said.
Joanna Bowen, representing NAMI OC, thanked the Town for the
proclamation and said that NAMI had been working hard to help young
people learn about, and be willing to talk about, mental health issues.
She said that Town employees could learn basic facts about mental illness
through a course called Mental Health First Aid. Ms. Bowen noted that a
majority of those who were languishing in emergency rooms were people
with mental health conditions. "We need to do better," Ms. Bowen said.
PUBLIC COMMENT - ITEMS NOT ON AGENDA [18-0433]
a. Maria Palmer Regarding the Silent Sam statue. [18-0434]
Mayor Hemminger clarified that the Town was not spending resources on
protecting the statue, and had never done so. Town resources were called
in to protect people near the statue when activities occur there, she said.
A motion was made by Council Member Bell, seconded by Council Member
Parker, that this Petition was received and referred to the Town Manager and
Mayor. The motion carried unanimously.
ANNOUNCEMENTS [18-0435]
a. Mayor Hemminger Regarding Charting Our Future. [18-0436]
Mayor Hemminger encouraged all to participate in a kick-off event for the
Town's Future Land Use Map rewrite. The event would take place the
following evening from 5:30-7:30 pm at the Franklin Hotel, she said.
b. Mayor Hemminger Regarding Spring Craft Bazaar [18-0437]
Mayor Hemminger announced a Spring Craft Bazaar on Saturday, from noon
to 5:00 pm at 140 West Plaza. She said that the event would include
food, music and activities.
c. Mayor Hemminger Regarding Public Information Meeting for [18-0438]
Business in Enterprise Zone
Mayor Hemminger told citizens to look for an announcement regarding a
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public information meeting, to be held on Monday. She said they would
explore opportunities in the Town's new Enterprise Zone.
d. Mayor Hemminger Regarding Council Budget Work Session [18-0439]
May 16, 6:30 p.m. at Library
Mayor Hemminger said that a Council Budget Work Session would be held
on May 16th at 6:30 pm at the Chapel Hill Public Library.
e. Council Member Buansi Regarding Bails and Court Fees [18-0440]
Conference at NC Central
Council Member Buansi announced a conference regarding the criminal
justice system that would address how bails and fees were particularly
onerous on poor people. The conference would be held on Tuesday from
9:30 am to 2:30 pm and people could preregister at ncracialjustice.org, he
said.
f. Council Member Buansi Regarding The Voice Chapel Hill [18-0441]
Resident Competitor
Council Member Buansi reported that Rayshun LaMar, a Chapel Hill
resident, had become one of the final eight contestants on NBC's "The
Voice" and would be performing again on Monday at 8:00 pm.
g. Council Member Buansi Regarding Floraffitti [18-0442]
Council Member Buansi said that "Florafitti" would begin on Friday. If
residents were walking around downtown and noticed plants in the shape
of words, that was not an accident, he said. Council Member Buansi
recommended that residents be on the lookout for what he described as a
great program that engages people of all ages.
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Open the Public Hearing: Recommended Budget for FY [18-0417]
2018-2019. (no attachment)
Town Manager Roger Stancil gave a PowerPoint presentation on the
Manager's recommended budget for Fiscal Year 2018-2019. The budget
included a 3-cent combined tax increase and supported the Council's
strategic priorities, he said. There was no proposed change in core service
levels and no change in number of full time employees, he pointed out.
Mr. Stancil said that the budget would rebuild General Fund reserves,
invest in maintenance, implement cost controls, and reduced some costs
in order to offset an increased allocation of funds to maintenance. The
proposed 3-cent tax increase would be for maintaining the Transit System
(1.0 cent), funding major capital projects (0.8 cent), and supporting core
services and restoring General Fund reserves (1.2 cents), he said.
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Mr. Stancil pointed out that satisfaction with core Town services was 29
percent higher than the national benchmark, according to a recent Town
survey. He proposed a 3 percent of market salary adjustment for current
employees and said that employees had concurred with staff's
recommendation to initiate a medical insurance deductible, which would
maintain premium costs for the coming fiscal year.
Mr. Stancil said that the Town's fund balance reserve had dropped below
22 percent, noting that 22 to 30 percent was appropriate. He explained
that the Town had used those reserves -- as well as lapsed salaries -- in
recent years in order to avoid a tax increase. The current recommended
approach would help replenish that reserve, he said. He also discussed
the Town's OPEB contribution, Wellness Program, and maintenance needs.
Mr. Stancil said that next steps in the budget process would include three
budget work sessions (May 16th, May 30th, June 6th) and adoption of the
budget on June 13, 2018. He explained what budget information was on
the Town's website.
Council Member Schaevitz confirmed with Mr. Stancil that the Council
would discuss how the savings in healthcare costs would be reflected in
the budget with him at the budget work sessions.
Robert Dowling, Community Home Trust (CHT) executive director, thanked
the Town for funding affordable housing and for approving a $10 million
affordable housing bond. On behalf of CHT, he asked for an additional
$7,500 in the new budget. Mr. Dowling provided information about recent
CHT projects, current inventory, and anticipated projects. He said that
CHT was grateful for the Town's support.
Maria Palmer urged the Council to consider selling a portion of its Legion
Road property. That was something the Town had intended to do in order
to repay what it had borrowed from the Fund Balance to pay the debt on
that property, she said. She said that the Fund Balance was not low
because of rising costs but because the Town had chosen to buy things
that were not within its budget.
Ms. Palmer said that developing a small portion of the Legion Road
property could generate income to sustain some Town services and serve
the community's commercial needs while preserving the vast majority of
Legion Road land for parkland recreation. It would be difficult to ask
citizens to support a bond when the last one had been promised for one
thing but used for something else, Ms. Palmer said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson stated that she had many concerns about the
budget. She was not comfortable with a 3-cent tax increase without
looking for other ways to reduce expenses, she said. She expressed
interest in potentially delaying some things and said she thought that
others could be reduced without impacting the quality of life in Town.
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Mayor pro tem Anderson requested that senior staff and the Council return
with more ideas.
Mayor pro tem Anderson said that a bus advertising program, which
allowed anti-Semitic advertisements, was against community values. That
program was not making money and was a minor line item that needed to
be discussed, she said.
Council Member Bell proposed that the Council take a long-range view
before pushing for a zero tax increase. She said that the Town could not
continue to push its needs down the road and that reducing the proposed
increase would require a larger conversation. Council Member Bell said
that part of the reason why she found the proposed budget difficult was
that the current Council had not come up with a strategic plan. That made
it difficult to decide which things could be put off or done differently, she
said.
Council Member Bell said that the Town had faced a tax increase but had
gotten it down to zero every year over the 10 years that she had been
serving on the Council. And she had felt every year that the Town would
eventually need to pay for those decisions, she said. Council Member Bell
said she agreed with trying to spread the amount out, or changing policy
in some ways. However, she appreciated finally having an opportunity to
talk about how to fund things, rather than having the Manager be
responsible for trying to fund the Town without any increase in revenue,
she said.
Mayor Hemminger reminded staff that she had asked to see what a 3-cent
tax increase would look like for homes and businesses in the $350,000
range, and up. She had wanted to have that information available for the
current meeting and hoped it would be posted on the Town's website so
that people could understand what it would mean for them personally, she
said. She agreed that something had to give when General Fund expenses
exceed revenues year after year. Chapel Hill's tax rate is in the lower
mid-point range for North Carolina, but was one of the highest rates when
combined with county and school taxes, she said.
Mayor Hemminger acknowledged that raising taxes was painful for
everyone. She pointed out that the Town offered a lot of great services
and wanted to do a lot of exciting things. Chapel Hill would have to cut
back expenses, or raise revenues, or do some of both, and she thought
there were opportunities to look at those trade-offs, she said. Mayor
Hemminger pointed out that sales tax numbers had been growing and that
benefits from recent ventures would be realized in the future. She agreed
that the Debt Fund needed to be addressed and looked at over a 10-year
period.
Mayor Hemminger asked to see what the trade-offs would be "if we spread
it out differently" over several years. She pointed out that the budget had
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been posted on the Town website and said that the Council welcomed
citizen feedback and communication with the public.
Mayor Hemminger proposed finding $7,500 in the budget for CHT, and Mr.
Stancil replied that it was already in the recommended budget due to an
agreement among all jurisdictions on how to fund the CHT.
This item received as presented.
2. 2018 Chapel Hill Community Survey Results. [18-0418]
Mr. Stancil presented a report on the 2018 Community Survey, conducted
by ETC Institute, and noted that previous surveys could be found online.
The survey measured public perceptions on the quality of Town services
and trends and allowed bench-marking against other municipalities, he
said. He said that an ETC consultant would present results.
Mr. Stancil reported that survey respondents had emphasized issues with
traffic flow and public parking. Satisfaction with street maintenance,
access to information about Town issues, ease of parking payment
options, and maintenance of Town buildings and facilities, had decreased
he said. (He pointed out that the Town had recently purchases new
parking meters and was in the process of installing them in the
Downtown.)
Mr. Stancil explained how the data had been collected and used and said
that the survey had cost $17,000. Next steps would be to hear feedback
from the Council, he said, and he noted that a community event, such as a
hackathon, would be held in the near future to generate ideas regarding
what the data revealed.
Chris Tatum, a consultant with ETC Institute, gave a PowerPoint
presentation that addressed how ETC had developed the survey and he
discussed cultural norms that impact respondent's ratings. He outlined
the survey's goals and methodology and said that Town engagement was
high. He displayed a map showing where respondents live and he pointed
out that they were evenly distributed throughout Town, geographically and
demographically.
Mr. Tatum said that the survey had found high satisfaction with the Town's
quality of life but a need for improved traffic flow and parking. The Town's
goal should probably be to make sure those problems do not get worse, he
said. He said that the Town had been responsive to citizens for a very
long time and that overall satisfaction with Town services was 29 percent
higher than the national average.
With regard to strategic indicators of community health, the Town had a
great future, Mr. Tatum said. He reported that the majority of categories
had received positive ratings, with the exception of "quality of new
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development" in Town. Concerns about traffic flow and public parking had
not caused people to lose confidence in the Town, but the Council should
be sure to communicate what it was doing to improve the situation, he
said.
Mr. Tatum emphasized the need for communication tools to replace the
local newspaper. He recommended making sure that people know about
opportunities for public involvement and understand how the Town uses
their input. In conclusion, Mr. Tatum said that residents' ratings were way
above the national average -- especially with regard to transit -- but traffic
flow and congestion and planning for growth needed to be managed so
that people do not lose confidence in the Town.
Mayor pro tem Anderson confirmed with Mr. Tatum that there had been a
significant sample for each of the Town's core age groups. It had been
about 1/5 for each of the groups, with 65 and over representing 16-17
percent, he said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson asked if there had been any information regarding
why there was discontent with newer development.
Mr. Tatum replied that the survey did not include follow-up questions for
most of the categories. He pointed out that a further breakdown of the
data could look at the profiles of those who had given negative feedback.
ETC had not done that analysis, but it had provided relevant data to Town
staff, he said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson asked Mr. Stancil if staff had Homeowners
Association (HOA) or neighborhood contacts through which it could reach
citizens.
Mr. Stancil replied that the Town was in the process of redesigning its
website and was compiling lists of HOA presidents and neighborhood
leaders. Staff was also trying to tap the hundreds of email lists that
different Town groups had in order to compile those in a way that would
respect people's privacy, he said.
Council Member Oates expressed interest in seeing how demographic
information had changed over the years. She cautioned against "teaching
to the test," such as creating a Town for one specific demographic while
everyone else leaves.
Mr. Tatum replied that age distribution was the only factor that ETC
monitored. However, they did look at race and had noticed that more
Hispanics were currently included than when the survey was first done, he
said. ETC looked at how the sample composition changed as the census
changed in order to make sure that the sample reflected the real world, he
said.
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Council Member Oates confirmed with Mr. Tatum that the survey would
show if changes the Town made were geared toward one particular group.
He said that breaking the data down for subgroups was very important in
that respect. The Town could project what was likely to happen in the
future if a certain segment of the population were to grow a lot over the
next 10 years, Mr. Tatum said.
Council Member Bell pointed out that "management of traffic flow" had
stayed at the same low/average range over several surveys. She pointed
out that many of the traffic issues were out of the Town's control.
Mr. Tatum pointed out that the order of top priorities in Chapel Hill 2020
had been: public safety, being good stewards, and getting around. He
believed that getting around would move up the list if the Town does not
address it, he said. If a couple of places were current bottlenecks, the
issue was whether the Town would find a way to get people through at a
reasonable rate. Mr. Tatum cautioned against having expectations so much
higher than what can be achieved that people start to feel that their
quality of life is suffering.
Council Member Gu confirmed with Mr. Tatum that there had been an 18
percent response rate from 2500 households. He explained that the
survey was a simple random sample, but that ETC had made an effort to
over-sample renters, who tend to respond at half the rate of homeowners.
Council Member Gu asked if the survey had been stratified by education or
income. She noted the very well-educated and high-income sample.
Mr. Tatum replied that the ample might have been a little higher than the
census, but was not radically different.
Council Member Gu pointed out that the Town did want to know the
perception of those with lower income and education levels and she asked
about the percentage of lower income respondents.
Mr. Tatum replied that determining that would take more resources but
that it could be done in the future. The number of lower income
respondents was statistically significant, if the Council wanted to see how
it compared to upper income respondents, but the margin of error would be
much higher because of the smaller sample, Mr. Tatum said.
Council Member Gu asked about long-term and short-term trends regarding
the drop in satisfaction with overall quality of life since 2009.
Mr. Tatum replied that there was not a simple answer. It was a function
of so many things -- such as schools, shopping, police protection, services,
amenities, and so forth, that the survey could not reveal that, he said.
However, there was some data analysis that the Town could do to
determine a profile of those who were not satisfied, he said. Mr. Tatum
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pointed out that perceptions of quality of life were down, nationally, from
a decade ago.
Council Member Gu asked what it meant that the level of public
involvement in Town decision-making was the lowest satisfaction item and
had dropped 15 percent from 2009 and 17 percent from 2015.
Mr. Tatum replied that the questions included whether people believe
there were opportunities for them to share their opinions and ideas. The
survey also asked about how the Town used that information and reported
back to the public, he said. Mr. Tatum pointed out that people will blame
local government if they do not know where and when meetings are held.
He recommended that the Council promote meetings widely and follow up
to make sure people are aware of them. In addition, the Town needed to
let the community know how their voices were affecting Council decisions,
Mr. Tatum said.
Council Member Gu confirmed with Mr. Tatum that he could show data from
nearby towns for comparison and that the raw survey data was on the
Town's website.
Council Member Stegman told Mr. Stancil that she was strongly interested
in "over-sampling" with the next survey in order to get more
representation from the full range of community residents.
Council Member Buansi asked about the process for non-English speakers,
and Mr. Tatum explained that most ETC call centers were bi-lingual and did
follow-up calls when the respondent answering the phone did not speak
English. In addition, there were phone numbers for different languages on
the mailed material, he pointed out.
Mayor Hemminger noted that the Town had been doing a lot in recent
months to address the parking issue. Mr. Tatum replied that it would
typically take about a year for that to be reflected in survey results. If
there was high usage, response time would be faster, he said.
The item was received as presented.
3. Open the Public Hearing on the November 6, 2018 General [18-0419]
Obligation (G.O.) Bond Referendum and Bond Order.
Business Management Director Ken Pennoyer gave a PowerPoint
introduction to the 2018 Affordable Housing (AH) bond referendum and
bond order. He explained that a single order and single question on the
November 2018 ballot would authorize the Town to issue up to $10 million
of AH bonds. A successful referendum would give Council the authority to
issue those bonds within a seven-year period, with a possible three-year
extension, he said.
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Mr. Pennoyer pointed out that the Council had adopted a Preliminary
Findings Resolution in March 2018 and had introduced the bond orders and
set the public hearing in April. The current public hearing was regarding up
to $10 million of general obligation AH bonds, and the Council's final
action would be to adopt that order and set the ballot question on May 23,
2018, he said. Mr. Pennoyer explained that the proposed wording for the
ballot question and order was from state statute and gave a good deal of
flexibility with regard to how the funds would be spent.
Clair Thananopavarn, a Smith Middle School student, spoke in favor of the
bond order and said that AH was necessary for the well-being of the
community. She expressed concern about residents who were being
evicted with short notice from mobile home parks slated for development.
Ms. Thananopavarn asked if those residents would be able to attend the
same schools after the Council found new homes for them, and if they
would have transportation to school. She asked the Council to prioritize
the issue, adding that it was important to her personally because diverse
schools were better schools.
Mayor Hemminger thanked Ms. Thananopavarn for speaking. She pointed
out there would be at least 18 months "once the clock starts ticking on the
property." The Town was working on the situation as fast as it could and
was having conversations about schools and transit as part of that
process, she said.
Susan Thananopavarn, a Chapel Hill resident, expressed support for the
affordable housing bond and advocated for the more immediate needs of
the mobile home park residents. She thanked the Council for working on
behalf of those residents and said that the citizens of Chapel Hill cared a
great deal about what happens to them.
Ms. Thananopavarn noted that current national policies had been
extremely hostile to low-income, Latino, and undocumented workers and
families. She pointed out that ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs
Enforcement) had recently conducted raids in Chapel Hill and had taken
away several community members who had no criminal records. Ms.
Thananopavarn said she knew that the Town abhorred such actions. She
said that supporting residents of the Town's mobile home parks was a way
to help those who were among a group being attacked in the nation at
large.
Jaclyn Holland, a French teacher at Estes Hills Elementary School, thanked
the Council for its support of the Lakeview Mobile Home Park families.
Many of the children from that community study in her classroom, she
said. She told about their academic achievements and said that some had
become leaders in the World Language classroom and in the school as a
whole. Lakeview families were also an asset to the larger community and
she supported the Town's efforts to ensure the security and affordability of
their housing situation, Ms. Holland said. She asked the Council to
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prioritize the needs of those families.
Julie Kemper, a Special Education teacher at Estes Hills Elementary School,
thanked the Council for its commitment to AH. She shared a story about
reading a book about camping to a child and having the child comment
that people sleep in tents when they don't have an apartment or trailer.
That child had been speaking from experience and the incident had
inspired her to become a teacher, Ms. Kemper said. She said that she
remembers that child when she thinks about the families at Lakeview.
Laurel Stolte, a reading specialist at Frank Porter Graham Elementary, said
that she currently worked with several students from Lakeview and had
seen the stress that uncertainty had caused them. She and her husband
had considered leaving Chapel Hill because of its lack of diversity, but they
would much rather partner with the Town to ensure that it becomes more
inclusive, she said. Ms. Stolte told Council members that she and her
colleagues wanted to have a better understanding of the timeline and next
steps with regard to Lakeview families. They would also like to support
the Council as it negotiates with developers and works to secure proactive
changes in development processes, she said.
Kim Talikoff, a teacher at Estes Hills Elementary School, said that she
appreciated that the Town Council and the Orange County Commissioners
shared the teachers' concerns about the potential displacement of mobile
home residents. Teachers were eager to hear how immediate and
long-term costs associated with the relocation would be funded, she said.
She pointed out that families were living under tremendous uncertainty
and housing insecurity, and she asked the Council to share a concrete
timetable. Teachers did have confidence in the Council's leadership and
its resolve to ensure that those families were not forgotten, Ms. Talikoff
said.
Brian Curran, a former Police Chief and current Habitat for Humanity board
member, thanked the Council for its commitment to AH. As a police
officer, he had seen the uncertainty and anxiety that lack of safe, decent,
affordable housing had caused many in the community, and he had seen,
first hand, how obtaining it had changed their lives, he said. Mr. Curran
encouraged the Council to put the AH referendum on the ballot in
November and said that he thought it would be successful.
Vanessa Woods, a best-selling author and research scientist at Duke
University, said that she and her husband had been researching the issue
of dehumanization. She had planned to participate in a documentary at
Estes Hills Elementary School regarding diversity, but had stopped that
because some of the most vulnerable members of the community were
about to be displaced, she said. Ms. Woods said that she and other
professionals were ready to help and would willingly pay more taxes for
AH.
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Michael Rogers, representing DHIC, thanked the Town for its past and
ongoing support for AH. He could not emphasize enough how important
the bond was to the continued success of AH in Town, he said, adding that
he looked forward to continuing opportunities to partner with the Town.
Mayor Hemminger told Mr. Rogers that the Town would be in touch with
him regarding upcoming AH opportunities.
Douglas Call, a Habitat for Humanity volunteer, pointed out that Habitat
had experience with getting the word out to people. He offered those
resources and contacts to help spread the word about the importance of
the bond referendum and told Council members to let Habitat know what it
could do to help.
Mayor Hemminger expressed appreciation for all the comments and the
passion that speakers had expressed. The Council also cared about the
issue, she said, noting that staff had been working hard and partnering
with Orange County and the Family Success Alliance regarding mobile
home park issues. She pointed out that the mobile home park developer
had not yet put a proposal forward.
Mayor Hemminger said that Chapel Hill wanted to remain a diverse
community, a place for everyone, and that the AH bond would help by
providing the resources to help meet that goal. She mentioned a recent
Council meeting regarding the Town's Public Housing Master Plan and said
that staff was looking at all of its sites and believed there were paths to
solutions.
Council Member Schaevitz thanked residents for coming and speaking.
Family Success Alliance had been doing a lot of work with residents, but
teachers were the ones working with the children in the schools every day,
she said. Council Member Schaevitz asked staff what could be done to
provide updates to teachers.
Mr. Stancil replied that he would call School Superintendent Baldwin the
next day and discuss how to do that in a smart way. The Town was
already partnering with her on AH issues, he said.
Council Member Schaevitz replied that it sounded wonderful but that she
had been thinking about a more direct line of communication from the
Town to a teacher list-serve of some kind.
The group of teachers seated in the audience indicated that such
communication would be most helpful to them, and Mr. Stancil agreed to
arrange it.
Mayor Hemminger pointed out that some information pertaining to families
had not been posted on the Town website. The state legislature had not
been friendly on that topic and she had also received calls from some
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people who felt the Town was breaking the law. The Council did not want
to put people in harm's way and wanted to work with the families directly,
she said. Mayor Hemminger stated that communicating with teachers was
fine but that information would not be broadcast out.
A motion was made by Mayor pro tem Anderson, seconded by Council
Member Parker, that this Item be continued to May 23, 2018. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
4. Open the Public Hearing: University-1 Land Use Management [18-0420]
Ordinance Text Amendment.
Senior Planner Aaron Frank gave a PowerPoint overview of a Land Use
Management Ordinance (LUMO) text amendment for the University-1
zoning district. He said that the Planning Commission had recommended
approval, and that staff was recommending opening the public hearing and
then continuing it to June 27, 2018. The text amendment was one of
three items associated with the Municipal Services Center (MSC) proposal,
he said.
Mr. Frank explained that the University-1 zoning district had been created
in 2009 in relation to Carolina North. It included base standards of
Office/Institutional-4, which encompasses UNC's main campus, he said.
The proposal before the Council was to eliminate the maximum 20-year
term limit for a development agreement (DA) and the requirement for a
minimum of 25 acres, he explained.
A motion was made by Mayor pro tem Anderson, seconded by Council
Member Parker, that this Item be continued to June 27, 2018. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
5. Open the Public Hearing: Application for Zoning Atlas [18-0421]
Amendment - Municipal Services Center, 1050 Estes Drive
Extension.
Assistant Police Chief Jabe Hunter introduced the Municipal Services Center
(MSC) item. He said that the Council had identified the need for a new
location in 2014 and staff has been working since then to find a location.
In January 2017, the Council had authorized staff to begin negotiating a
development agreement (DA) for a piece of UNC property on Estes Road
Extension, he said.
Chief Hunter described visioning and community engagement sessions that
had subsequently been held and said that participants had identified
factors that were important to the community, particularly to those in the
nearby Elkin Hills neighborhood. After the initial kick-off, six additional
public meeting sessions had been held around specific topics, and an
additional session was also held at the community's request, he said.
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Assistant Town Manager Mary Jane Nirdlinger said that stakeholders had
worked hard to reflect the best interests of the Town in the draft DA but
that there might still be some unmet desires. She said that three related
actions would be presented. These included the text amendment, a public
hearing on the rezoning, and a public hearing on the DA.
Mayor Hemminger then opened the public hearings for the rezoning and
DA. She clarified that both were open and that people could speak on
either or both.
Mr. Frank provided information regarding the rezoning of two
University-owned parcels. These would be rezoned from OI-2, which was
intended for private development, to U-1, which was intended for private
or public development for college/university research activity and civic or
municipal uses. U-1 would allow for a DA, and the DA would permit
tailored land uses and standards and allow for long-range developments to
be crafted between the University and the Town, he said. Mr. Frank said
that staff saw the rezoning as being consistent with the Town's 2020
Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Frank said that the Town was reaching the finalization stage of the DA
process and that the DA had been presented to all advisory boards for
comment. He recommended opening the public hearing and then
continuing it to June 27, 2018.
Mr. Frank provided an overview of the proposed joint Town/UNC
development. Phase 1 would consist of about 72,000 square feet, with a
total build-out of 200,000 square feet, he said. Key characteristics
included a 100-foot buffer and a 4-story maximum height, he said. He
noted that a fire station on the site has been discussed but was not being
proposed as part of the current DA.
Mr. Frank pointed out that the community's guiding principles had been an
exhibit to the development agreement and would be recorded with it. He
said that staff believed it had incorporated those principles in the DA, the
design, and the standards. He said that a property appraisal had been
performed and had anticipated no impact to adjacent property values.
With regard to a community request to preserve 50 percent of the property
for land conservation, staff had achieved about 45 percent and was trying
to reach 50 percent, he said.
Mr. Frank highlighted aspects of the proposal that might affect the scope
and/or cost of the project. These included providing full infrastructure for
enhanced stormwater management for the 50-year storm event with the
first phase of development. Another was to achieve LEED Silver
certification and AIA 2030 goals. Others pertained to 20 percent of spaces
being for electric vehicles, solar readiness, and adaptive reuse of the
parking deck.
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Council Member Parker asked if any consideration had been given to having
stormwater be some percent better after construction rather than having it
be no worse than before construction. He wanted to understand if the
project would improve run-off conditions for the surrounding neighborhoods
in a routine storm, he said.
Eric Schoenagel, with Little Diversified Architectural Consulting, replied
that the design for the 50-year storm would have more impact on a routine
storm event as well, and Council Member Parker clarified that run-off from
any lesser event than the 50-year storm would be at less than
pre-construction run-off from a similar event.
Council Member Stegman asked if the Town or the University would pay for
the parking deck, and Ms. Nirdlinger replied that the DA anticipated a
cost-sharing structure with the University for all shared infrastructure.
Mayor pro tem Anderson asked why LEED Silver was being proposed rather
than simply achieving that level but not paying for certification.
Ms. Nirdlinger replied that a Council resolution required that Town
buildings achieve that certification unless the Council gave an exemption.
Mayor Hemminger confirmed that the Town could build to, and reach the
top standards but not have to go through the expensive certification
process.
Ms. Nirdlinger agreed to bring back information regarding that, including a
range of costs.
Council Member Oates confirmed with Ms. Nirdlinger that the cost sharing
agreement with UNC was anticipated to be proportional to what each
entity actually uses and needs on the site. She also confirmed that all
buildings would be a maximum of four stories, total build-out was 200,000
square feet, with the MSC being 75,000 square feet with a possible
expansion to 100,000 square feet. As the DA was currently written, the
Town and UNC could each build to a maximum of 100,000 square feet, Ms.
Nirdlinger explained.
Council Member Oates asked if what the University wanted to build would
be reviewed by community members.
Ms. Nirdlinger replied that the University did not yet have a building
program. The DA anticipated some additional notification and engagement
around future buildings and was modeled after the perimeter transitional
area requirements in the Carolina North DA, she said. Ms. Nirdlinger
clarified that there was a mechanism included for communication at the
annual meeting, or through the report, and then a notification when
something was intended to be built.
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Council Member Oates asked if the community was okay with that, and Ms.
Nirdlinger said that the information had been shared with them and it
would be good to hear from them directly about whether it met their
interests.
Council Member Buansi asked what the procedure would entail when an
applicant sought a major modification to the DA and if it resembled a SUP
process.
Mr. Frank replied that the DA process, which was not quasi-judicial,
allowed for conversations and some review prior to a public hearing. It did
require a second public hearing for action, he said.
Maria de Bruyn read a statement about the health benefits of trees and
noted areas in Town where trees had been clear cut. The proposed project
would eliminate much of the woods bordering her Elkin Hills neighborhood,
she said, and she asked that the DA be changed to permit replanting
those areas with native vegetation only. Ms. de Bruyn said that her
neighborhood was opposed to paving, and she said that less of the site
would need to be raised if the Town would build only the MSC.
Carmen Elliott, an Elkin Hills resident, agreed with Ms. de Bruyn's
statement regarding native plants and asked the Council to make sure
that the DA's wording is clear and, if possible, mirrored the guiding
principles for Elkin Hills. She asked that natural areas be left intact and
that the DA's wording be changed to delete any reference to a recreational
park. Ms. Elliott said that it would make much more sense to leave the
site as quiet and natural as possible rather than having trails run through
it. She asked Council members to encourage any future Council to "think
with deep empathy" about putting a second building on the property and
to consider putting it somewhere else.
Tim Williams, an Elkin Hills resident, spoke about stormwater
management downstream from the property, stating that he had
understood that a plan would be developed in concert with the MSC.
However, the DA says that the Town will "evaluate," he said, adding that
neighbors want to see more of a commitment to downstream
management. Mr. Williams also said that an attached document had
listed some approved land uses that seemed inappropriate, such as
independent senior living, daycare, and a drive-in ATM. He asked to be
reassured that the Town did not plan to include such uses.
Fred Stang, an Elkin Hills resident, asked Council members to include the
neighbors' concerns in the DA. He said that many had been reflected but
there still were other concerns such as those that other speakers had just
expressed. Mr. Stang said the neighborhood believed that the Town
should scrap the plans to build a second municipal building on the site
and consider locating that on the current police station site once that has
been remediated. Mr. Stang requested removal of a phrase in Section 5.5F
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regarding stormwater being no worse than it currently was. He thanked
the Town for attempting an appraisal, but said that the "consulting
assignment" had not done what they wanted.
Whit Rummel, a Planning Commission member, pointed out that the
Commission had voted unanimously to move the project forward. He had
attended several public forums and had watched the plan grow into
something pretty great and he expected that to continue, he said. Mr.
Rummel endorsed the DA and said that the site seemed like the perfect
location for a new police station.
Mayor pro tem Anderson ascertained from Ms. Nirdlinger that native
species had not been included due to concerns about whether it could
meet all of the screening needs. However, staff would talk with UNC and
Town landscape staffs and bring back more information in June, she said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson confirmed with Ms. Nirdlinger that she would bring
back more specific language regarding stormwater improvements
downstream. She also verified with Ms. Nirdlinger that the reference to a
recreational park was an error and would be removed.
Mayor Hemminger said that there seemed to be a strong interest in not
having the path paved, but Ms. Nirdlinger replied that staff had received
conflicting opinions on that. The Stormwater Utility Commission had
recommended not paving it while the Transportation and Connectivity
Advisory Board had been considering a greenway that would be paved, she
said. Ms. Nirdlinger pointed out that ADA standards could be met either
way. Unless the Council had a specific opinion, she would return with
options in June. Ms. Nirdlinger said.
Mayor Hemminger asked if porous pavers would be an affordable option
and Ms. Nirdlinger agreed to check.
Council Member Parker recommended building some amount of funding into
the project for whatever offsite improvements are chosen. He asked for
information on using the building for public meetings, at least after hours.
Council Member Parker also asked about the term of the lease with UNC.
Ms. Nirdlinger explained that the lease would be a separate agreement
and the current understanding was that UNC could do a 29-year lease of
its own accord. UNC's board of Trustees had approved the draft lease and
the DA and lease would be executed concurrently, she said.
Council Member Parker asked about the list of approved uses that seemed
irrelevant to the project, and Ms. Nirdlinger replied that staff would redo
that section and eliminate anything that did not need to be there.
Council Member Gu, the Council's liaison to the Transportation and
Connectivity Advisory Board, confirmed that Ms. Nirdlinger would look at
the conflicting concern about the trail and return with options. Council
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Member Gu said that it was extremely important for staff to do the
research and communicate clearly with the community about what it can
and cannot control regarding stormwater runoff. The subject was highly
technical and needed to be communicated clearly, she said.
Council Member Buansi asked about Provision 5.17 regarding noise. He
noted that he had recommended posting signs in the neighborhood during
construction as well as at the construction site.
Ms. Nirdlinger replied that Council Member Buansi's recommendation had
led to a discussion with community members, who had decided to
establish periodic meetings with a few folks who would help communicate
such information out to the larger neighborhood.
Council Member Buansi replied that he would defer to the neighborhood's
preferred means of communicating.
With regard to the paved versus unpaved path, Mayor Hemminger pointed
out that paving could always be done later while un-paving was not
typical. After some discussion, she said that the Council would be okay
with a natural surface as long as it met connectivity and mobility goals.
She said that she agreed with others regarding stormwater management
downstream and with deleting the uses that were not anticipated for that
site.
Mayor Hemminger said she agreed with Council Member Parker's interest in
meeting space, and Ms. Nirdlinger said that conversations had already
begun about the internal layout of the building to meet those interests.
Mayor Hemminger said that she had previously argued that having all
native plants would be too limiting, but was willing to concede on that.
Council Member Bell said that she, too, would like to hear more about
stormwater mitigation as part of the cost of the project. With regard to
plants, she said, "native first and non-invasive second; don't ever do
invasive."
Mayor Hemminger said that staff would revise the DA, communicate with
the community, and return on June 27th. The Council voted unanimously
to recess both public hearings to June 27, 2018.
A motion was made by Mayor pro tem Anderson, seconded by Council
Member Schaevitz, that this item be continued to June 27, 2018. The motion
carried by a unanimous vote.
6. Consider an Application for a Development Agreement - Town [18-0422]
and University Joint Operations Center, 1050 Estes Drive
Extension.
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A motion was made by Mayor pro tem Anderson, seconded by Council
Member Schaevitz, that the Council recess the Public Hearings until June 27,
2018. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
8. Update: Land Use Management Ordinance Text Amendment [18-0424]
Regarding Modifications to Historic District Commission Related
Sections 3.6.2 and 8.4.
Community Resilience Officer John Richardson provided an update on
possible modifications to sections of the Land Use Management Ordinance
(LUMO) pertaining to the Historic District Commission (HDC) and asked the
Council to cancel the current meeting. He reviewed the process thus far,
which had begun with a Council Committee on Boards and Commissions
proposal to improve clarity around HDC decisions.
Mr. Richardson said that staff had presented an update in February 2018
and had then distributed a draft ordinance to the Planning Commission and
the HDC on April 29, 2018. The HDC was interested in being involved in
co-developing the text amendment language and staff was asking the
Council to cancel the evening's public hearing in order to allow more time
for them to provide that input, he said.
A motion was made by Mayor pro tem Anderson, seconded by Council
Member Oates, that the Council close the Public Hearing. The motion carried
by a unanimous vote.
7. Status Update Regarding the March 14, 2018 Blue Hill Petition. [18-0423]
Director of Planning and Development Services Ben Hitchings provided an
update on a Blue Hill District (BHD) petition that the Council had
forwarded to the Mayor and Town Manager on March 14, 2018. The
petition asked for feedback on three issues: increasing non-residential
development with density bonuses or other mechanisms; identifying
strategies for providing more affordable housing; and, addressing building
size and massing concerns to improve place-making and visual/pedestrian
permeability.
Mr. Hitchings said that the LUMO text amendment would be the focus of
the current discussion. He outlined the process thus far and requested
that the Council receive information and provide feedback that staff could
use when bringing forward a formal proposal on May 23, 2018.
Economic Development Officer Dwight Bassett talked about the potential
for development in two areas of the BHD. Area 1 included the Berkshire
Apartments, Village Plaza, Staples, Eastgate, Mariakakis, Fordham
Boulevard Apartments, and Elliott Square. Area 2 included the Park
Apartments and the old Red Cross sites, the UPS store, Holiday Inn, Rams
Plaza, the former Volvo dealership, Hong Kong Buffet, the Europa office
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building, the Sheraton, Greenfield, the Ford dealership, and other small
parcels. He talked about where the opportunities for redevelopment might
occur and reminded Council members that nearly half of the BHD consisted
of retail and restaurant uses.
Mr. Bassett said that there had been some flattening of market rates in
some of the residential complexes, which meant that only the newer rental
rates were pushing the limit. The traditional pattern started with
residential and built a need for retail and restaurants, and that appeared
to be happening with retail and restaurant strengthening in Eastgate,
Elliott Square, Rams Plaza, and Village Plaza, he said. Mr. Bassett
discussed what staff believed would likely be the best near-term
redevelopment opportunities.
Mr. Hitchings addressed options for promoting commercial development.
The first would be to offer incentives regarding height and location and he
discussed the pros and cons of that approach. For example, allowing more
height would permit more contribution to commercial development, but it
could be difficult for developers to bring forward economically viable
projects, he pointed out.
Mr. Hitchings said that the second strategy was related to location. There
was much market demand for commercial development in the BHD, but
there was much unmet housing need in Town as well, he pointed out. A
continuing strong demand for residential development might limit the
potential of commercial development as it competes for new space in
Town, he said.
Mr. Hitchings discussed several interrelated variables and mentioned
different possible strategies. He said that a potential pathway forward
might be with a text amendment that would limit allowable residential
development in the walkable/mixed-use district. That would not require a
map amendment, he said. The approach would be that the multi-family
use currently allowed would only be allowed with a special use permit
(SUP), Mr. Hitchings explained.
Council Member Buansi confirmed with Mr. Bassett that there was a
30-year agreement with the Holiday Inn landowner regarding uses. Mr.
Bassett said that the landowner was leasing the land to a management
company that had leased it to the operating company that was running the
hotel. He was not sure how many years of the contract had passed he
said. He described a complicated arrangement in which all parties had
legal rights and must all be in the room during negotiations. There had
been multiple lawsuits regarding the property since 2013, Mr. Bassett
pointed out.
Council Member Oates confirmed with Mr. Hitchings that the SUP
suggestion would reinstate the Town's leverage to ask for AH. After the
initial text amendment, staff could look at more specific opportunities to
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use it to do so, Mr. Hitchings said.
Council Member Oates questioned whether there was adequate demand for
housing, noting that The Berkshire was struggling to fill up and had
lowered its rents in order to get more leases. Where did the Town get the
idea that it needed more apartments, she asked.
Mr. Bassett explained that the Town had been building a housing type that
had limited its market draw and that its housing unit numbers had not
grown in the way that Durham, Cary, Raleigh and other towns had.
Demand for housing in Chapel Hill was high because of the Town's brand,
its school system, and so forth, he said. Mr. Bassett pointed out that
Chatham Park would be like a new city and could take market away if the
Town was not competitive for jobs and housing.
Mayor pro tem Anderson asked if a district tax would be another method of
obtaining AH.
Mr. Hitchings replied that a framework existed for a Municipal Service
District but he did not know the details.
Mayor pro tem Anderson said that she wanted to point out that there could
be a district tax through which the Town could create funding to build AH
units. She then asked about the incremental tax base that was supporting
roads and how well the Town was meeting those targets, and staff agreed
to bring back that information.
Mayor pro tem Anderson asked why the Town had targets for residential
and commercial development if the target for residential had not led to the
desired commercial development.
Mr. Bassett replied that targets had been based on conversations with
property owners during planning about what they would do if the Town
went forward with the district. It was more of a projection of what they
thought would happen, he said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson asked if there had been no thought to what a
healthy district would look like. Had the Town created the BHD under the
premise that it could end up all residential, she asked.
Mr. Bassett replied that there had been very specific interest in balancing
it, but they had not seen a path for dictating where office and retail would
go because there already was a large retail mix. Planners had done a
market analysis to figure out how much market capacity there was to
support anything -- whether it be residential, office, or retail, he said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson confirmed with Mr. Bassett that something other
than what was predicted had happened. To get back into balance, the
Town should at least try to create an environment where there could be a
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mix of both, she said. She noted that the BHD had been over-performing
in terms of residential despite the Council having stated many times that
the Town needed more commercial development. Mayor pro tem Anderson
said that allowing the few spaces left in Town to be residential would
mean giving up on commercial development.
Mr. Bassett said that specific locations, such as the Ford Dealership, were
prime parcels for commercial or mixed-use development. The Town
absolutely needed commercial space, specifically office space, he said. Mr.
Bassett said that he did not think the BHD could support much more retail
until it had "found its ground and refined itself."
Mayor pro tem Anderson said that issue really was about how fast the
Town wanted change, and Mr. Bassett replied that it also included what
was projected in the financial plan pertaining to infrastructure
improvements and development projects that create tax revenue.
Mayor pro tem Anderson wondered what the Town would be giving up if
the incremental tax rate slowed down. She confirmed with Mr. Bassett
that the Town would not be in debt but might not be able to address
Legion Road quite yet.
Council Member Stegman said that the item was a huge amount of
information to absorb at 11:00 pm and that she felt too rushed to make a
thoughtful decision. It would be a mistake for the Council to make
decisions that end up having the BHD half done, she said. She said that
she was glad the Council was tweaking and improving the goals but did
not want to do things that would unintentionally stop or slow things down.
Council Member Bell asked about the build-out timeline for this project,
and Mr. Bassett replied that it had changed and that he would bring actual
projections back to the Council.
Council Member Bell said that there had been a limited number of plots at
the start that had been easy to develop and that two had been completed.
She noted that there had been a simultaneous increase in commercial
tenants and strong occupancy at all of the area's shopping centers. She
confirmed with Mr. Bassett that there was a stronger retail base being
created even though there were not many new buildings.
Council Member Bell said she agreed with Council Member Anderson that
the original process anticipated using proceeds from the BHD to support
other things the Town wanted, such as AH, street networks, parks, and
greenways. She expressed several concerns about bringing an SUP process
into a form based code process and asked for more information about
adding restrictions and increasing Office/Institutional use in those areas.
Council Member Parker said there must be a reason why there was so
much more residential development than commercial. He wondered if
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residential was intrinsically more profitable and, if so, whether that
situation was temporary and likely to change at some point. He would like
to have those answers before proposing solutions, he said.
Council Member Parker said he wondered if the Town needed to take a
regulatory approach and prohibit some things. Or, perhaps there were
positive incentives that would make commercial use more attractive and/or
lucrative to developers, he said. He proposed that the Town explore the
reasons why it was not getting commercial development and if there were
incentives that could be used to attract that.
Mr. Bassett confirmed that Council Member Parker meant office,
specifically, when he said commercial. He said that the Town had lost,
and not recaptured that market since the great recession and had been
trying to rebuild it and had looked at tools to encourage that on many
occasions.
Council Member Parker asked if the issue was profitability, or the risk
associated with not getting financing due to not being able to find
sufficient tenants. If developers had tenants, would commercial be as
profitable as residential, he asked. He wondered if there were incentives,
or partnerships, or other ways to help developers find tenants. Council
Member Parker confirmed with Mr. Bassett that the Town might not get
commercial development even if it prohibited residential development in
some way.
Mr. Basset pointed out that Carolina Square had only one vacant floor left
and that The Station at East 54 was 100 percent leased. That was a huge
step toward recapturing the office market, but the Town might need to
incentivize or find other ways to encourage other developers to take risks,
he said.
Council Member Schaevitz asked Mr. Hitchings to clarify that changing
walkable/commercial use to residential use through the SUP process would
not prohibit residential and that a commercial use get all of the speed and
predictability of the form based code. Would the Town just be saying that
having residential use meant having to be part of the SUP process, she
asked.
Mr. Hitchings replied that there could be an SUP process with form based
code requirements. The Town's form based code happened to include
administrative review, but that was not inextricably linked to form based
code in general, he said. Mr. Hitchings agreed that there would be no
problem with certain uses in form based code being only allowable through
a SUP process. Staff could certainly structure that, he said.
Mayor Hemminger asked Tony Sease, a consultant with Civitech, Inc, to
comment. She summarized that the Town wanted more commercial
development and felt that letting the remaining parcels go for residential
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development would mean never having more commercial in the BHD
because there would be no more sites. She asked Mr. Sease for his
opinion about the best approach, based on his experience.
Mr. Sease replied that, nationally, the issue pertained more to the lending
question. Over the past six to eight years, investment money had been
flowing to residential projects, where there was unmet demand, he said.
He explained that lending for commercial projects had been more difficult
because of the pre-leasing requirements associated with that.
Mr. Sease said, however, that dynamic seemed to be changing and that he
had recently talked to a lender who was no longer even looking at
residential development. However, it would be a momentous shift to just
categorically eliminate the possibility for residential development, he said.
Mr. Sease added that it would also be a big shift to "kick it into the SUP
process."
Mayor Hemminger said that her Real Estate Company had taken a risk and
invested in an empty office building, which had then leased out. Office
space vacancy was very low in Town, she said, and she pointed out that
commercial development was what the Council had said that it wanted. If
the Town states that commercial is what it will allow, then developers will
find a way to do that, she said. Mayor Hemminger cautioned that,
otherwise, the BHD would not be the live/work/play neighborhood that the
Town wanted it to be.
David Adams, a Colony Woods resident, said that the BHD had enabled
gentrification by allowing luxury residential development. He encouraged
the Council to find a way to include AH and commercial development in the
remaining plots. Goals for the district had not been met and that the area
was out of balance, he said.
Mr. Adams argued that extending form based code to the American Legion
property was a ridiculous idea and said he supported using that site for a
park. Although he understood that AH was a dire need, it should have
gone into the BHD and the Town should not have to sacrifice a desperately
needed park for that, he said. Mr. Adams stressed that he was not a
"NIMBY" and said he would be willing to have four or five small affordable
homes on flat property behind his house.
Anne Brashear said she agreed with Mr. Adams, especially about the
American Legion property, which she thought should be an open area.
Allowing developers to cut down every tree on the lot would really be
doing a disservice, she said.
Bill Brashear recommended that the Council consider how constructing
buildings that block sunlight can affect neighbors' solar capacity. He also
said that tall buildings with a lot of glass would reflect the sun along
Ephesus Church Road and blind passing drivers. Mr. Brashear
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recommended putting non-reflective surfaces on those buildings. He said
that it would be wonderful to encourage commercial development but that
the land and trees needed to be protected.
Council Member Stegman spoke about not undermining the goals of the
district and said she agreed with those who did not want to introduce a
SUP process. She confirmed with Mayor Hemminger that a little more than
half of the Town's 22,000 dwelling units were rental units. Council
Member Stegman said that rents were going down at The Berkshire and
that was what the Town wanted. She expressed concern about potential
unintended consequences of making decisions too quickly and said she
wanted to have an opportunity to weigh all factors before making a
commitment.
Council Member Gu confirmed with Mr. Hitchings that approximately 1,200
units had been approved but not yet been built in the BHD. She said that
such information should be part of discussions about whether or not there
were enough apartments in that area and if the Council needed to
encourage more diverse development. She noted the importance of taking
all impacts into account when evaluating a project, not just tax revenues.
Council Member Gu pointed out that more commercial development would
bring more balance to the district.
Council Member Parker said that everyone wanted more commercial
development and wanted to radically slow down or stop residential
development, at least in the BHD. He said that an unintended
consequence of requiring building taller than three stories to include
commercial space would be a lot of three-story buildings in Town. Those
kinds of incentives really had to be thought through very carefully, he
pointed out.
Council Member Parker said he would rather not have the escape valve of
the SUP. He argued that the promise of a small number of AH units, or a
relatively modest payment in lieu, was not worth the possibility of giving
over the last bit of land for residential development. He said that he would
rather just zone the lots as commercial, period. That could always be
reversed in a few years if the Town did not get commercial development,
he pointed out.
Council Member Parker spoke against using the false promise of AH to
justify building more residential than the Town wanted. Moreover, if the
Town were to take the action he was recommending, he would urge staff
to also look for incentives, if needed, for commercial development, he
said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson said she agreed with Council Member Parker's
recommendation, noting that the few remaining parcels were already
zoned for commercial development. As long as the Town was not putting
itself in the position of not being able to pay for road infrastructure, she
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was would rather wait for quality, than get quantity now, she said.
Council Member Oates stressed making sure that all parcels would be
covered, either by zoning them as commercial or coming up with a SUP for
the small parcels that had no particular intention on them. She said it
was ridiculous to expect to get 300 AH units when the Council had gotten
rid of any leverage it had to do so. The Town expanded the BHD to get
150 AH units at Greenfield and then got 60 more from a very unique
situation, but it needed to come to terms with the fact that it was not
going to get any more, she said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson confirmed with Mayor Hemminger that the Council
would tackle the issue of massing another night.
Council Member Stegman noted that Mr. Bassett had said one of the
parcels could make an interesting mixed-use development. She wondered
if there were any parcels that might be suitable for a combination of
commercial and residential use, she said. Council Member Stegman spoke
against the SUP, stating that it would just make the process long and
expensive.
Council Member Bell pointed out that the BHD was not an island and that
other businesses were nearby. She wondered if there was anything the
Council could do via policy to create more office space. She proposed that
Council members broaden their outlook and that Mr. Bassett tell them
what policies needed to be in place in order to develop new Class A office
space in the BHD.
Mayor Hemminger agreed with doing something to keep the remaining
three parcels commercial. She said that the SUP idea would drag the
process out and make it messy. It would lead to some commercial, but it
would create residential as well and that was not the intent, she said.
She pointed out that the Council could have another, longer discussion
about AH and the Town's Inclusionary Zoning policy and said she was not
interested in expanding the form based code until it was right. With
regard to the Legion Road property, Mayor Hemminger said that she
wanted that to remain a public process and did not think form based code
would allow much public input.
Mayor Hemminger told Mr. Hitchings that the Council preferred something
that would work better than throwing an SUP into the process.
Mr. Hitchings confirmed with Mayor Hemminger that the Council wanted to
create a new district that would only allow non-residential uses.
Mr. Stancil pointed out that the May 23rd public hearing would be the first
one on the massing changes. Since the Council had not discussed those
changes tonight, the public hearing would begin without any Council
feedback, he said.
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Mayor Hemminger asked if the Council could have a short discussion at its
work session the following week, and Mr. Stancil agreed to investigate
that but noted that it would not be short.
This item was received as presented.
9. Presentation: Greene Tract Considerations. [18-0425]
The Council agreed to defer this item to its May 23, 2018 meeting.
10. Update on Council Committee Work Regarding the Amity Station [18-0416]
Development Agreement. (no attachment)
Mr. Hitchings reported that a Council subcommittee had held five
negotiating sessions on the Amity Station DA and a key issue had been
student restrictions. Staff would be getting more market analysis to better
understand the financial impacts, he said. Mr. Hitchings said that the next
meeting would be held on May 24th.
Mayor Hemminger replied that there were age-restricted places in Town
that could use some of that data as well.
Mayor pro tem Anderson noted a recent conversation about how other
factors -- such as being employed and/or not needing co-signers -- could
yield an age restriction.
This item was received as presented.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:57 p.m.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Town Council Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Mayor Pam Hemminger Council Member Nancy Oates
Mayor pro tem Jessica Anderson Council Member Michael Parker
Council Member Donna Bell Council Member Rachel Schaevitz
Council Member Allen Buansi Council Member Karen Stegman
Council Member Hongbin Gu
Wednesday, May 9, 2018 7:00 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
AGENDA ITEM(S)
1. Open the Public Hearing: Recommended Budget for [18-0417]
FY 2018-2019. (no attachment)
PRESENTER: Roger L. Stancil, Town Manager
a. Introduction by the Manager
b. Comments from the public
c. Comments from the Mayor and Town Council
d. Motion to adjourn the Public Hearing.
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council receive public comment
regarding the recommended budget.
2. 2018 Chapel Hill Community Survey Results. [18-0418]
PRESENTER: Roger Stancil, Town Manager
Chris Tatham, ETC Institute Chief Executive Officer
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council receive the report and provide
feedback.
3. Open the Public Hearing on the November 6, 2018 [18-0419]
General Obligation (G.O.) Bond Referendum and Bond
Order.
PRESENTER: Kenneth C. Pennoyer, Business Management Director
a. Comments from the public
b. Comments and questions from the Mayor and Town Council.
c. Motion to close the public hearing to take action on May 23,
2018.
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RECOMMENDATION: That the Council conduct a public hearing on the
bond order proposed for the November 6, 2018 Referendum.
4. Open the Public Hearing: University-1 Land Use [18-0420]
Management Ordinance Text Amendment.
PRESENTER: Aaron Frank, Senior Planner
a. Introduction and preliminary recommendations
b. Recommendation by the Planning Commission
c. Comments from the public
d. Comments and questions from the Mayor and Town Council
e. Motion to recess Public Hearing to June 27, 2018.
f. Referral to Manager and Attorney.
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council open the Public Hearing,
receive public comment, and continue the public hearing to June 27,
2018.
5. Open the Public Hearing: Application for Zoning Atlas [18-0421]
Amendment - Municipal Services Center, 1050 Estes
Drive Extension.
PRESENTER: Mary Jane Nirdlinger, Assistant Town Manager
Jabe Hunter, Assistant Chief of Police
Aaron Frank, Senior Planner
a. Without objection, the preliminary report and any other
materials submitted at the hearing for consideration by the
Council will be entered into the record
b. Introduction and preliminary recommendation
c. Presentation by the applicant
d. Recommendation of the Planning Commission
e. Recommendations of other boards and commissions
f. Comments from the public
g. Comments and questions from the Mayor and Town Council
h. Motion to recess Public Hearing to June 27, 2018
i. Referral to the Manager and Attorney.
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council open the Public Hearing,
receive public comment, and continue the public hearing to June 27,
2018.
6. Consider an Application for a Development Agreement [18-0422]
- Town and University Joint Operations Center, 1050
Estes Drive Extension.
PRESENTER: Mary Jane Nirdlinger, Assistant Town Manager
Jabe Hunter, Assistant Chief of Police
Aaron Frank, Senior Planner
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a. Introduction and recommendation
b. Presentation by Applicant
c. Comments from the public
d. Comments and questions from the Mayor and Town Council
e. Motion to recess Public Hearing to June 27, 2018
f. Referral to Manager and Attorney
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council open the Public Hearing,
receive public comment, and continue the public hearing to June 27,
2018.
7. Status Update Regarding the March 14, 2018 Blue Hill [18-0423]
Petition.
PRESENTER: Ben Hitchings, Planning and Development Services
Director
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council receive an update regarding
the status of the Blue Hill petition and provide feedback or direction
to staff regarding a recommendation for the Public Hearing on May
23rd.
8. Update: Land Use Management Ordinance Text [18-0424]
Amendment Regarding Modifications to Historic
District Commission Related Sections 3.6.2 and 8.4.
PRESENTER: John Richardson, Community Resilience Officer
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council receive an update from staff
regarding the status of text amendments to modify Sections 3.6.2
and 8.4 of the Land Use Management Ordinance, and cancel
tonight’s Public Hearing to allow the Historic District Commission
more time to provide input on any text amendments.
9. Presentation: Greene Tract Considerations. [18-0425]
PRESENTER: Judy Johnson, Operations Manager, Planning and
Development Services
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council receive the report.
10. Update on Council Committee Work Regarding the [18-0416]
Amity Station Development Agreement. (no
attachment)
PRESENTER: Judy Johnson, Operations Manager, Planning and
Development Services
RECOMMENDATION: That the Council receive this update.
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REQUEST FOR CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
PROPERTY ACQUISITION, PERSONNEL, AND/OR LITIGATION MATTERS
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