Town Council
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · November 18, 2019
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Town Council Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes - Final
Mayor Pam Hemminger Council Member Nancy Oates
Mayor pro tem Jessica Anderson Council Member Michael Parker
Council Member Donna Bell Council Member Rachel Schaevitz
Council Member Allen Buansi Council Member Karen Stegman
Council Member Hongbin Gu
Monday, November 18, 2019 6:30 PM Library Meeting Room B
Roll Call
Present: 8 - Mayor Pam Hemminger, Mayor pro tem Jessica Anderson,
Council Member Allen Buansi, Council Member Hongbin Gu,
Council Member Nancy Oates, Council Member Michael
Parker, Council Member Karen Stegman, and Council
Member Rachel Schaevitz
Absent: 1 - Council Member Donna Bell
Other Attendees
Town Manager Maurice Jones, Deputy Town Manager Florentine Miller, Town Attorney Ralph
Karpinos, Assistant Town Manager Mary Jane Nirdlinger, Police Officer Rick Fahrer, Interim Planning
Director Judy Johnson, LUMO Project Manager Alisa Duffey Rogers, Planner II Becky McDonnell,
Community Resilience Officer John Richardson, Mayoral Aide Jeanne Brown, Ombudsman Jim
Huegerich, and Assistant Town Clerk Christina Strauch
0.01 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Open House for Eastowne [19-0981]
Master Plan.
Mayor Hemminger called the meeting to order at 6:32 p.m. She said that
an open house regarding the Eastowne master plan would be held in
Council chambers on November 19th from 5:30-6:30 p.m.
0.02 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Third Grade Field Trip. [19-0982]
Mayor Hemminger mentioned that there had been a third grade field trip
at Town Hall that day.
0.03 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Alleyway Ribbon Cutting, [19-0983]
Celebrating Improvements, 200th Birthday Celebration on
Wednesday, November 20.
Mayor Hemminger announced a ribbon cutting at Varsity Alley at noon on
November 19th. In addition, the Town's 200th birthday celebration would
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begin at Town Hall at 5:30 p.m. on November 19th, along with a short
mock meeting to remember key moments in the Town's history, she said.
0.04 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Arbor Week Kickoff at RENA [19-0984]
Center.
Mayor Hemminger said that children from Ephesus Elementary School and
the RENA Center had helped kick off Arbor Week the prior week by
planting trees at the RENA Center.
0.05 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Tree of the Year Contest. [19-0985]
Mayor Hemminger pointed out that November 22nd would be the deadline
for entry into the Tree of the Year contest.
0.06 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Planting 200 Trees for 200 [19-0986]
Years.
Mayor Hemminger said that the Town was reaching out to the community
to help plant 200 trees as part of Chapel Hill's 200th birthday. More
information was available on the Town website, she said.
0.07 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Naming Year 2019 as Year [19-0987]
of the Cradle in Honor of 50th Birthday of Cat's Cradle.
Mayor Hemminger said that Council Member Stegman would be joining the
Town of Carrboro in celebrating "the Year of the Cradle" in honor of the
50th birthday of the Cat’s Cradle.
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Discuss the Eastowne Master Plan. [19-0960]
Mayor Hemminger said that the Council subcommittee, comprised of her
and Council Members Gu, Parker and Schaevitz, wanted to update other
Council Members and ask for their input regarding negotiations with UNC
Healthcare (UNC-HC) about the Eastowne Master Plan and Development
Agreement (DA). She outlined some of the Town's goals for that project
such as increasing office/commercial development in order to help
diversify the tax base and provide local jobs.
Mayor Hemminger said she was not sure that Council subcommittee
members were completely aligned on every aspect of the negotiations or
that the Town was completely aligned with UNC-HC. She said that the
subcommittee envisioned a development focused on medicine and
innovation, but that UNC-HC had returned with a proposal for residential,
commercial, medical, and retail. UNC-HC had also asked for more than
three times the density that the subcommittee had in mind, she said.
She described a UNC-HC proposal to build on a northern parcel, and said
she was bringing that forward for Council feedback.
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Mayor Hemminger pointed out that the Town wanted to create more
affordable housing at Eastowne, but said that the subcommittee had not
made much progress with UNC-HC regarding that. A traffic impact
analysis (TIA) of the area had not yet been completed, so it was not
known how much traffic the roads could handle, she said. She told the
Council that staff had recently learned that a northern parcel was a
significant natural heritage area, which included a stream with Jordan Lake
buffer requirements that prohibited building on it.
Mayor Hemminger said that the subcommittee had been willing to consider
taller buildings in return for more greenspace preservation, but that
UNC-HC had replied that it did not want to go higher than six stories. She
said that the subcommittee was still processing that response and did not
yet understand it. The subcommittee had not had time to process a
regulating plan that it had recently received from UNC-HC, she said.
Interim Planning Director Judy Johnson gave a PowerPoint presentation on
the Eastowne master plan. She said that the purpose of a November 20th
council meeting would be to understand UNC-HC's request to drain a pond
and stream crossings, and to discuss opportunities to preserve the natural
heritage site. Staff would bring forward a resolution at that meeting that
would request Council action on UNC-HC's request, she said.
Ms. Johnson provided background on the process and said that the Council
subcommittee had met 13 times since February 2019. The subcommittee
had been trying to hold true to Council-endorsed principles, she said, and
she listed those. She explained that UNC-HC had presented two
alternatives in recent months that would move the developable area
closer to the stream. The Council subcommittee had recently received
those plans and was still trying to understand them, she said.
Ms. Johnson provided information about the three-acre pond and dam and
the state-regulated Jordan Lake buffer surrounding it. She noted that the
area contained a 300-foot swath of Town Resource Conservation District
as well. She explained what regulations would and would not allow in the
area. UNC-HC was proposing to drain the pond and do some water quality
improvements to the intermittent stream, she said.
Ms. Johnson pointed out that the site was currently ranked as a fairly
significant natural heritage area and a substantial wildlife corridor.
Biohabitats, Inc. had analyzed the region and concluded that a significant
amount of it was worth preserving, she said. She mentioned that the site
was in the 74th percentile, based on importance, and was vulnerable to
extinction.
Ms. Johnson said that the question before the Council was whether
reducing that environmental area in exchange for more preservation in the
"northern 20" was an equal trade-off. She reviewed the timeline and said
that staff was working toward reaching a DA by June.
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The Council confirmed with Ms. Johnson that the Town and UNC-HC were
still discussing the scope of the TIA and that the Town's technical team
had not yet had time to analyze the recently-submitted regulating plan.
Some wondered why the Council was having the conversation when it did
not yet have the information it needed to make a decision.
Council Member Parker, a subcommittee member, replied that he wanted
to discuss the Council's degree of comfort with the proposed vision for a
medical innovation/mixed use campus. He asked how important it was to
preserve all or part of the natural heritage site. He also asked Council
Members to think about whether or not they would want Highway 15-501
widened to six lanes in the future.
Council Members Buansi and Gu expressed opposition to the idea of
developing the northern parcel, and other Council Members said they could
not make that decision without seeing a TIA. The Council said that far
too much parking was being proposed, and some requested that
underground parking be considered. Mayor Hemminger pointed out that
more transit going to the site would add cost for the Town.
The Council asked for more information from UNC-HC about its plans for
affordable housing. They wondered why UNC-HC was resisting going
higher than six stories. Council Members said they wanted convenient
retail that was scaled to medical and office uses such as employee
childcare for those who live and work there, not major destination retail.
Most Council Members said they wanted to preserve the natural heritage
area, and some said they were willing to consider one hotel, but not two.
Mayor Hemminger pointed out that UNC-HC had asked for support for its
request to drain the pond. She said that the Council could amend any
agreement to include trade-offs, such as conservation of all or part of the
northern area. The pond was not a viable stormwater feature, and
draining it would yield developable area, she said.
Mayor pro tem Anderson ascertained from Mayor Hemminger that UNC-HC
needed an answer regarding the pond because its regulating plan would
be completely different without that land.
Council Member Gu, a subcommittee member, commented that UNC-HC
might not need such a large footprint if it would commit to taller
buildings. That would allow the Town to restore the pond as a beautiful
water feature, she said.
Mayor Hemminger pointed out that the pond's dam was compromised and
would have to be rebuilt. She also said that no one would be able to walk
around the pond because of buffer regulations.
Town Manager Maurice Jones said that staff needed to hear from the
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Council on what to do with the pond and whether or not there was any
interest in allowing development on the northern parcel. He said that he
was hearing that the majority of Council Members were not interested in
building there for the first time.
Council Member Gu said that getting a realistic notion of capacity from the
TIA would be relevant to whether or not the Town should allow
development in the northern parcel.
Council Member Parker replied that a TIA required a hypothesis of what
would be built before gathering information to determine whether or not it
can be built. He pointed out that any decision about draining the pond
would not be irrevocable.
Council Member Gu insisted, however, that road capacity needed to be
known first in order to determine allowable density. She said that the
Council needed to see alternative plans that showed taller buildings and a
smaller footprint, but that UNC-HC continued to present the same plan.
Mayor Hemminger determined from Ms. Johnson that the TIA would likely
be completed by January 2020.
2. Discuss Prescriptive Nature of the Draft Focus Area Maps & [19-0961]
Principles.
Land Use Management Ordinance (LUMO) Project Manager Alisa Duffey
Rogers gave a PowerPoint presentation on feedback from the community
regarding draft focus area maps and principles. She said that some
residents had thought the proposed character types were too narrowly
drawn and/or that the focus area maps were too prescriptive. Ms. Duffey
Rogers said that the community wanted the certainty of
easy-to-understand maps and had stressed the importance of green space
and meaningful transitions.
Council Member Parker said that the Town's future land-use map (FLUM)
covered up to 30 years but would probably be revised in 10 or 15. Was
there a way to build in some expectation of what might happen, sooner
rather than later, he asked. He confirmed with Ms. Duffey Rogers that the
FLUM and LUMO interacted with each other and that the contents of the
LUMO rewrite would have to be more specific than what was in the FLUM.
Ms. Duffey Rogers said that towns were not good at making predictions
and were almost always wrong when trying to predict what piece of land
would change. Therefore, she was hesitant to include a temporal
element, but the 30 year time frame was a way to help people think about
how an existing road or building would not necessarily be there 10 or 30
years from now, she said.
Ms. Duffey Rogers proposed breaking larger focus areas down into
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subareas with appropriate uses in each. She said that having transitions
had been important to those who commented, and she proposed adding
"transition" as a new character type on maps where appropriate. That
would give the Town flexibility while also giving residents the security of
knowing that their neighborhood would be respected, she said. Ms. Duffy
Rogers pointed out that parks were also important to community
members, and proposed indicating those on the FLUM as well.
The Council confirmed with Ms. Duffey Rogers that the transition character
type would not be specific and would merely flag the place between two
area types. She confirmed by consensus that Council Members thought
character type and height should be on separate maps. She asked if
Council Members thought the revised names and character type
descriptions were specific enough.
Mayor pro tem Anderson said she liked the revised character types, and
Council Member Oates said that she did, too, except for "mixed-use"
because everyone defined that differently. Council Member Schaevitz said
that "transition" was somewhat vague but that she did not have a good
suggestion for a word that would provide more transparency and clarity.
The Council discussed how "transition" could mean different things, and
Ms. Duffey Rogers gave an example of a six-story building that appears to
be right up against a single family house. She was envisioning putting
the transition character type there, she said. She pointed out that the
transition could be between heights, between uses, or even be a wall.
Mayor Hemminger expressed concern about leaving the word "residential"
off the list of character types because the Town did have some people
living along Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard. Even though those areas
probably would be developed at some point, she did not want to be
disrespectful to those residents, she said, and Ms. Duffey Rogers agreed
to figure something out.
Council Member Buansi confirmed with Ms. Duffey Rogers that
"institutional civic" meant owned by the Town or Orange County with the
idea that it would transition to something else over the next 30 years.
Mayor Hemminger and Council Member Parker discussed how the Town had
no control over houses of worship and how civic space could mean various
things, and Ms. Duffey Rogers noted that a church might be a transition.
Ms. Duffey Rogers said that she would return with an update at the
November 20, 2019 Council meeting.
Gary Baum, a Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard resident, asked what a
"traditional neighborhood" character type was and how that related to
what was being discussed.
Ms. Duffey Rogers replied that some residents wanted to preserve the
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existing rhythm and scale of their community and did not want a new
character type. Therefore, staff had developed a "traditional
neighborhood" character type to address that concern, she said. Whatever
action the Council takes at its November 20th meeting would be folded
into what had been discussed tonight, she said.
REQUEST FOR CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, PROPERTY ACQUISITION, PERSONNEL, AND/OR
LITIGATION MATTERS
A motion was made by Council Member Oates, seconded by Council Member
Buansi, that the Council enter Into closed session as authorized by General Statute
Section 143-318.11(a)(3) to consult with the Town attorney concerning an existing
lawsuit in which the parties are Epcon Homestead, LLC and the Town of Chapel
Hill. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was recessed at 8:57 p.m., the Council went into closed session
and the meeting adjourned at the end of the closed session.
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Agenda
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TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Town Council Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Mayor Pam Hemminger Council Member Nancy Oates
Mayor pro tem Jessica Anderson Council Member Michael Parker
Council Member Donna Bell Council Member Rachel Schaevitz
Council Member Allen Buansi Council Member Karen Stegman
Council Member Hongbin Gu
Monday, November 18, 2019 6:30 PM Library Meeting Room B
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Discuss the Eastowne Master Plan. [19-0960]
PRESENTER: Judy Johnson, Interim Planning Director
The purpose of this item is to provide the Council with an update on
the Eastowne Master Plan.
2. Discuss Prescriptive Nature of the Draft Focus Area [19-0961]
Maps & Principles.
PRESENTER: Alisa Duffey Rogers, LUMO Project Manager
The purpose of this item is for Council to discuss and provide
feedback on the prescriptive nature of the Draft Focus Area Maps and
Principles.
REQUEST FOR CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
PROPERTY ACQUISITION, PERSONNEL, AND/OR LITIGATION MATTERS
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