Town Council
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · September 20, 2023
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Town Council Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes - Final
Mayor Pam Hemminger Council Member Paris Miller-Foushee
Mayor pro tem Karen Stegman Council Member Michael Parker
Council Member Jessica Anderson Council Member Amy Ryan
Council Member Camille Berry Council Member Adam Searing
Council Member Tai Huynh
Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:30 PM Library Meeting Room B
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ROLL CALL
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Present: 8 - Mayor Pam Hemminger, Council Member Jessica Anderson,
Council Member Camille Berry, Council Member Paris
Miller-Foushee, Council Member Tai Huynh, Council
Member Michael Parker, Council Member Amy Ryan, and
Council Member Adam Searing
Absent: 1 - Council Member Karen Stegman
OTHER ATTENDEES
Interim Town Manager Chris Blue, Deputy Town Manager Loryn Clark, Mary Jane
Nirdlinger, Town Attorney Ann Anderson, Planning Director Britany Waddell, Assistant
Planning Director Judy Johnson, Community Arts & Culture/Library Executive Director
Susan Brown, Police Officer Shawn Osbourne, Senior Project Manager Sarah Poulton,
Senior Ombuds Anita Badrock, Town Clerk Sabrina Oliver, Deputy Town Clerk Amy
Harvey, Assistant Town Clerk Brenton Hodge.
OPENING
Mayor Hemminger called the meeting to order at 6:35 p.m. She reviewed the agenda
and explained the procedural rules for work sessions.
ANNOUNCEMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS
0.01 Council Member Miller-Foushee Regarding Houses Now [23-0673]
March.
Council Member Miller-Foushee announced that a number of community partners
would be hosting a "Houses Now March" on September 23rd that would start at
Weaver Street Market and run from 2:00 to 5:00 pm.
0.02 Mayor Hemminger Regarding Arts Everywhere Dedication. [23-0674]
Mayor Hemminger said that she had recently attended an art dedication at UNC's
Craig Deck. That beautiful installation was part of an "Arts Everywhere" program,
she said.
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Planning Department Updates. (no attachment) [23-0669]
Mayor Hemminger said that staff had been working on changing Town processes
to better reflect the Complete Community Framework and wanted Council
feedback on which things were benefits that could be written into the code and
which needed more time and discussion. She pointed out that affordable housing
(AH), for example, was a community benefit that the Council had agreed upon and
was striving for.
Council Member Parker proposed that it would be more productive if staff brought
likely community benefits to Council with information about which ones must, or
might, be negotiated and which could be put into the Land Use Management
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Ordinance (LUMO). Council Members Anderson and Ryan spoke about the need
for the Council to first talk about high-level policy issues and give direction to staff
before the LUMO rewrite had progressed too far.
Council Member Miller-Foushee commented that any list of items for negotiation
should be short because the Council had already worked hard to understand what
could and could not be codified. She proposed identifying goals and elevating
community benefits that could not be rolled into the LUMO. She said that she
wanted to approach the LUMO rewrite in the same incremental manner as last
year's budget discussion.
Council Members agreed that big philosophical decisions should be made first and
set the tone. Council Member Parker pointed out that the LUMO included
regulations as well as a process for enforcing those regulations. There were both
philosophical and process decisions involved, and the Council needed to discuss
what it hoped to achieve with specific items, he said. Council Member Huynh
encouraged staff to address making Town processes as predictable as possible for
applicants, external stakeholders, and community members while still allowing the
Council the discretion to get what it wants.
Mayor Hemminger confirmed that the Council was in favor of having Special Use
Permit (SUP) modifications go to the Board of Adjustment, and Planning Director
Britany Waddell replied that staff probably would recommend doing that during
LUMO re-write. However, staff could explore a separate text change specific to it,
she said, and the Council asked her to do so if it would be easy.
Mayor Hemminger said that the Planning Commission (PC) and the Community
Design Commission (CDC) had both requested that concept plans be reviewed by
the PC rather than the CDC. That change would be a simple text amendment and
the rest of the concept plan review process would remain the same, she said.
Council Members talked about how the concept plan review process had moved
far beyond the original "back of the envelope" idea. Applicants had begun investing
a considerable amount of money and time into that step and it was a good time to
clarify what elements the PC should be looking at, they said. They asked staff to
clarify what the PC should review, and they requested that those reviews get to
the Council before concept plans do.
In response to a question from Mayor Hemminger, Ms. Waddell said that the
Council did not need to do anything regarding the LUMO rewrite before November,
which was when staff would begin asking for guidance on incremental pieces of it.
Staff was hoping to present a full draft in spring 2024 and a final draft in the fall of
2024, she said. Mayor Hemminger confirmed that staff was using current LUMO
standards and the Complete Community checklist when reviewing projects.
Council Member Ryan mentioned an earlier conversation in which the Council had
discussed wanting to see policy matters very early in the process. She asked
when those up-front, policy discussions would occur, and Ms. Waddell explained
that staff was planning to continue working on zoning districts, using a matrix, and
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bringing those to the Council for feedback in November. They were starting with
those core pieces before creating a draft, she said.
There was some discussion among Council Members about whether that staff plan
lacked opportunity for the Council to do policy work and provide input up front. In
response, Town Manager Chris Blue clarified that the Council wanted a better
understanding of the timeline and decision points and Ms. Waddell said that she
would work on tightening the agenda according to what the Council felt was
appropriate.
Mayor Hemminger asked staff to send the Council a copy of the checklist it was
using.
This item was received as presented.
2. Boards & Commissions Assessment/Staff Response to Council [23-0670]
Petition.
Chapel Hill Public Library (CHPL) Director Susan Brown presented a response to a
Council petition that had requested a review of Town advisory boards and
commissions (B&Cs). She described the staff review team's approach and said
they were recommending consistent and clear board names and charges, standard
board sizes and schedules, and relevant training for board members. All staff and
board members shared the petitioners' interests in having meaningful and diverse
community input and engagement, good stewardship of resources, and a common
understanding of roles and responsibilities, she said.
Ms. Brown pointed out that B&C meetings were typically long and said that staff
spent about 270 hours (equal to about $10,000) per month on supporting them.
She said that lack of clarity regarding roles and charges could make those who
want to serve feel undervalued and lacking purpose. She pointed out that
opportunities for obtaining community input had grown in recent years. For
example, the Town now had a Diversity Equity and Inclusion (DEI) officer, a
Community Relations Manager, and a Community Connections team. There were
also many departmental efforts to connect directly and authentically with the
public, she said.
Ms. Brown recommended that the Council adopt having the following standards:
consistent naming conventions; clear, focused policy charges; standard board
sizes and terms; meetings while Council is in session; and standard training for all
board members. She said that the team was also recommending that the Council
consider: sunsetting the Justice in Action (JIA) Committee, whose charge was
being addressed by multiple staff efforts; assessing the Grievance Hearing Board's
membership; creating a Public Housing Advisory Board; and combining some
boards. The team would move on to assessing the application and appointment
process, using a DEI lens and user experience approach, and bring that back to the
Council, she said.
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Council Member Miller-Foushee asked for more information about the
recommendation to sunset the JIA Committee, and Ms. Brown explained how JIA
had been struggling to clarify its charge and have impact.
Council Member Miller-Foushee expressed a preference for more of a top-down
approach that would explain which B&Cs were required by law and allow the
Council to then determine which ones the Town needed and could afford. Council
Member Huynh agreed and proposed looking at best practices in other
communities rather than starting with the status quo.
Ms. Brown replied that the Council petition had requested a status quo approach.
However, the team could start with statutory requirements if that was what the
Council preferred, she said.
Council Member Anderson confirmed with Ms. Brown that the team had focused on
B&Cs that the petition had specified but the recommendations could apply to all
boards. She proposed that best practices be applied to all boards and expressed
interest in hearing which ones the team thought could be combined.
Town Attorney Anne Anderson pointed out that the review team had not included
some boards in its review because those were being more carefully examined as
part of the LUMO rewrite.
Council Member Searing asked where creating a Public Housing (PH) Advisory
Board was in the process, and Ms. Brown replied that it had not been part of the
petition but that the proposed standards could apply to it as well. Council
Members agreed by consensus to proceed with a PH Advisory Board and to let
staff address whether there should be Council Members on it. Council Member
Parker pointed out that the budgetary authority for a PH board would reside with
the Council and recommended looking at how Transit Partners was organized.
Mayor Hemminger commented on the need to learn about possible restrictions on
a Housing Board.
Council Members raised questions about the recommendations' drain on staff
resources, and Council Member Miller Foushee spoke in favor of removing the CDC
for that reason. Council Member Ryan mentioned that some boards were not
clear on what they were supposed to be doing and she proposed pulling some of
those into LUMO policy discussions. Council Member Parker said that the Council
should begin by understanding what advice it wanted from B&Cs, and then give
them clear charges and instructions, which would include meeting only when there
was work to be done.
Council Member Parker proposed standardizing how staff liaisons interacted with
B&Cs. Council Member Berry asked for guidance on how to sunset a board when
it is no longer needed. Council Member Anderson recommended that the Council
reach a shared understanding of what its role as liaison was and clarify that when
training B&Cs.
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Mayor Hemminger said that the Council needed to have a clear understanding of
what specific work Town B&Cs did and how often they did those things before
making any board changes. She said that the majority of Council Members agreed
on some of the team's broad recommendations -- such as having B&Cs meet
when the Council is in session. With regard to standardizing board sizes and
terms, she pointed out that some, such as the CDC, had asked to reduce its size
because of limited applicants. She asked Council Members if they wanted staff to
evaluate that aspect before setting specific standards.
Council Member Anderson replied that she was in favor of having standard term
lengths, and Mayor Hemminger confirmed that all Council Members supported
having standardized training for B&C members and additional training for board
chairs. She said that the Justice In Action Committee had been struggling with its
mission and she confirmed that the majority of Council Members wanted staff to
explore the possibility of sunsetting that committee or merging it with another.
Mayor Hemminger asked staff to return with a recommendation regarding the
Grievance Board's membership size. She confirmed that Council Members did
want to consider creating a Public Housing Advisory Board. The Council would like
staff to look into what combining boards would look like and assess the application
and recruitment processes, she said. She commented on how B&Cs added a lot to
Council conversations but said that some changes needed to be made.
This item was received as presented.
3. Update: Consider Water and Sewer Boundary Expansion. [23-0671]
Assistant Planning Director Judy Johnson gave a PowerPoint update on a June
2023 petition to the Town from the Chamber for a Greater Chapel Hill and
Carrboro. That petition had asked the Town to expand its Water & Sewer
Boundary to the Chatham County line, she said.
Ms. Johnson explained that the proposed expansion area was in the Town's Urban
Services Boundary but covered by a five-party Water and Sewer Management
Planning Boundary Agreement (WASMPBA) that included the towns of Chapel Hill,
Carrboro and Hillsborough as well as Orange County and the Orange Water and
Sewer Authority (OWASA). The proposal was to amend the WASAMBA
agreement, which would require approval by all five parties, she said. She
emphasized that no changes to the Rural Buffer were being proposed.
Ms. Johnson said that approximately 360 acres would potentially be included in an
expansion. She pointed out that there already were plans to extend transit and a
side-path into that area. Some parts of the area already had utilities, but any new
infrastructure would be put in by property owners or developers, she said. She
pointed out that a 10-12-acre Town-owned parcel would be included in the
proposed boundary expansion. That could potentially be an affordable housing
opportunity, she said.
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Ms. Johnson reported that staff had sent notices to all the area's property owners
and had scheduled community meetings. If the Council was interested in pursuing
the idea, then staff would work with the various parties and return with a review
and recommendation, she said.
Mayor Hemminger confirmed with staff that most of the expansion area was
zoned Residential Low-Density 1, and Ms. Johnson said that staff had been thinking
about a rezoning to Residential 3 and 4. That would allow duplexes and triplexes,
and staff had been talking with the Town's LUMO consultant about the possibly of
creating a new zoning district that would target missing middle housing, she said.
Mayor Hemminger commented on the current lack of restrictions on tree clearing
in the area and the lack of monitoring over the "McMansions" with septic systems
that were being built there. She noted that boundary expansion would create an
opportunity for missing middle housing. She confirmed with staff that the Town
could currently put fewer than 10 dwelling units on the parcel that it owned due to
current septic, lot size and street requirements.
The Council clarified with Ms. Johnson that the goal would be to address the
Town's housing concerns by creating more housing opportunities within 1/4-mile of
US 15/501. Ms. Johnson said that OWASA had not done any technical analyses
but did think that some capacity improvements would be required. In response to
a question about how the Council could target the kind of housing it wanted there,
Ms. Johnson outlined approaches that involved rezoning the area or making
changes during the FLUM rewrite.
Council Member Ryan mentioned the importance of looking at the environmental
impact of a sewer line on the area's creeks. Other Council Members spoke
enthusiastically about the possibility of creating transit-oriented neighborhoods in
the area. Council Member Searing confirmed that developers normally bear the
cost of installing sewer and water.
Council Members Berry and Miller-Foushee noted the potential health benefits that
bringing water and sewer to residents of the area would provide. Mayor
Hemminger noted that those who lived in the area currently had no way of
connecting to water and sewer. Some residents desperately wanted sidewalks on
which they and their children could safely get to the bus stop, she said.
Council Members emphasized the importance of having the community understand
that the Council was currently in the process of learning and was not making any
decision at the current time. Asking staff to move forward meant proceeding with
the process, which would include much community input, they said.
Mayor Hemminger confirmed with Ms. Johnson that community meetings would be
public, and recorded, and would include representation from the five WASAMBA
boards. There would be opportunities to present information and receive public
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input, she said. She commented on how the Town had documented its need for
missing middle and affordable housing. In her mind, the tradeoffs were to make
that possible or let the land remain as is and continuing getting McMansions there,
she said.
This item was received as presented.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:37 p.m.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Town Council Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Mayor Pam Hemminger Council Member Paris Miller-Foushee
Mayor pro tem Karen Stegman Council Member Michael Parker
Council Member Jessica Anderson Council Member Amy Ryan
Council Member Camille Berry Council Member Adam Searing
Council Member Tai Huynh
Wednesday, September 20, 2023 6:30 PM Library Meeting Room B
Language Access Statement
In-Person Meeting Notification
View the Meeting
• Public attendance is welcome, and limited to room capacity
• We will not live stream the event, but will provide the Post-Meeting Video
https://www.townofchapelhill.org/councilvideo/
• The Town of Chapel Hill wants to know more about who participates in its
programs and processes, including Town Council meetings.
• Participate in a voluntary demographic survey before viewing online or in
person - https://www.townofchapelhill.org/demosurvey
Parking and Entry
• Parking is available at the Library lots. The Library is served by CL Route, D
Route, and GoTriangle Routes of Chapel Hill Transit
• Meeting Room B is to the right from the main entrance.
• Please do not bring signs.
ROLL CALL
OPENING
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ANNOUNCEMENTS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Planning Department Updates. (no attachment) [23-0669]
PRESENTER: Britany Waddell, Planning Director
The Planning department will present updates on administrative
initiatives, policy implementation and process proposals that have
progressed this summer.
This discussion is a continuation of the Council Committee on
Economic Development meeting from June 2, 2023.
2. Boards & Commissions Assessment/Staff Response to [23-0670]
Council Petition.
PRESENTER: Susan Brown, Community Arts & Culture Executive
Director/Chapel Hill Public Library Director
The purpose of this item is to share staff findings and
recommendations in response to Council petition requesting an
assessment of Town Boards & Commissions.
3. Update: Consider Water and Sewer Boundary [23-0671]
Expansion.
PRESENTER: Judy Johnson, Assistant Planning Director
The purpose of this item is for the Council to receive this update and
provide guidance on the next steps.
REQUEST FOR CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
PROPERTY ACQUISITION, PERSONNEL, AND/OR LITIGATION MATTERS
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