City Council - Finance Committee
Regular MeetingChicopee, MA · February 22, 2018
Minutes
CHICOPEE CITY COUNCIL
FINANCE COMMITTEE
APPROVED 5-22-2018
MEMBERS
John Vieau, Chairman
Shane Brooks, Vice Chairman
Fred Krampits
Frank Laflamme
Gary Labrie
James Tillotson
Jerry Roy
MINUTES
The following are the minutes of a public hearing held Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 6:30 PM in the City
Council Chambers, Fourth Floor, City Hall Annex, 274 Front Street, Chicopee, MA 01013.
Members Present Vieau, Brooks, Krampits, Laflamme, Labrie, Tillotson, Roy
Also Present Daniel Garvey (Associate City Solicitor), Councilor Labrie, Councilor Balakier,
Mayor Richard Kos, Councilor Zygarowski, Councilor Brooks, Councilor
Walczak, Councilor Courchesne, Marie Laflamme (City Treasurer), William
Jebb, (Police Chief), Dean Desmarais (Fire Chief), Bob Liswell (IT Project
Manager), Jeff Neece (Superintendent DPW), Elle Soja (DPW Assistant), Allan
Ryczek (Superintendent Central Maintenance), Richard Rege (Superintendent
of Schools), Marge Wojcik (School Committee), James Tanhauser (School
Committee), David Schryver (School Committee), John Beaulieu (Mayors
Chief of Staff), Sharon Riley (City Auditor), John Miarecki (Director of Budget
& Finance Schools)
The meeting was called to order at 6:34 PM
In compliance with the Open Meeting Law the Chairman asked if anyone in the audience was recording the
meeting.
ITEM #1
REQUEST THAT the Mayor and John Mruk, Chairman of the Chicopee Advisory Task Force attend the
Finance Committee meeting to review the recommendations of the task force (which was formed to
review the operation and budget of the school department).
John Mruk stated that the Chicopee Advisory Task Force met for five meetings over a two month
period. After much research and in depth discussions, we passed thirty six recommendations.
John Mruk read the recommendations. Recommendations attached.
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Councilor Laflamme stated that you’ve read thirty six recommendations, how do we come up with
answers. The recommendations are there but there’s no clear answer to me. He stated that when
the budget moves forward I want to do my homework and have the answers.
John Mruk stated that these are recommendations that we would like to investigate to see if there
is a savings or something concrete. He stated that as a committee we have only met five times.
Councilor Laflamme stated that you are exploring hiring a fulltime grant writer.
John Mruk stated his recommendation was for the school system.
Councilor Laflamme stated that we need a fulltime grant writer.
John Mruk stated that he believes there are a lot of grants out there. He stated that the MMSI grant
was out there and it was never applied for.
Councilor Vieau stated that one thing that stood out was the Creative Continuous Improvement
Program. He asked the Mayor if this would be something that the School Department would
consider doing.
Mayor Kos stated the School Committee has not met with John Mruk; it is scheduled for March 14,
2018.
Marge Wojcik stated that they have not looked at this as a whole body. She stated that they have a
meeting scheduled and then we can sit down and meet with the City Council.
Councilor Vieau stated that these are great recommendations and he applauds the Advisory Task
Force. He stated that the spending priorities of the City of Chicopee are in line with state averages.
The City of Chicopee takes a lot of pride in doing things that are in the best interest of the people
who live here and pay takes. We certainly don’t want to shortchange students but provide the best
education that we can. He stated that there are some positive recommendations that I think would
benefit and hopefully be some cost savings that could help balance the schools budget.
Councilor Tillotson stated he watched the School Committee meeting last night and he listened to
them give their report and it does not look good in his opinion. Every little reserve is gone to balance
off last year’s work. He stated you set some money aside for raises but I feel we’re going to wind up
with a three or four million dollar request. I think you need to save as much as you can. He stated
merging those departments would be helpful but I don’t think you could get it done by fiscal year
July 1, 2018 that’s going to take a little more planning. He stated that you have a Lawyer to
represent the school that is paid ninety three thousand dollars a year. He stated that maybe hire
one of our Lawyers to work out of the Law Department that would bring continuity between the
City Hall and the School Department. He stated he does not believe you need to pay someone that
kind of money.
Councilor Tillotson stated that the School Committee needs to try to eliminate some of these
positions or reduce their budget automatically so you’re not coming to us for an extravagant figure.
He stated that this community is not ready to take a four or five hundred dollar increase in their tax
bill.
Councilor Tillotson stated if we work together to come up with a budget that is fair and you have
done all you can do for fiscal year 2019, then we can figure this out.
Councilor Brooks stated that there are some fixed costs that the school cannot control. He stated
the Government funding for free or reduce lunch alone is significantly less. He stated the numbers
of children are the same. Even though our whole student body qualifies for free and reduced lunch,
the amount of reimbursements we get back is significantly less. He stated that there insurance costs
are going up. The narrative may need to change on how we fund our school department. He stated
that when our report comes back from the Collins Center that will shed some light on whether or
not we can affectively merge inter-city departments.
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Mayor Kos stated part of it is just working together better. One of the things that he finds
frustrating is that we have different labor pools and they are treated differently throughout the
city. He stated even if there is not savings there will be uniformity. There are different wage scales
and different duties for very similar jobs. He stated sometimes these financial difficulties are a way
in the public sector making us work together when we wouldn’t have tried to normally.
Mayor Kos stated that he looks at this as an opportunity to help make us more effective and
efficient. He stated that we are going to have to work together and both sides are going to have to
show some effort in terms of making adjustments and commitments.
Councilor Walczak stated that there were several invoices from FY 2017 without purchase orders
totaling one hundred and ninety two thousand dollars. He asked what safeguards and budget
controls are in place so this doesn’t happen again.
John Miarecki stated that in the case of many of our department schools purchasing things later in
the year; that won’t happen. He stated that won’t stop utilities from being paid. He stated that that
there won’t be purchases in the middle of June for next fiscal year.
Councilor Walczak asked if unused salary money can be used for other expenses.
John Miarecki sated yes it has to be approved by the school authority.
Councilor Walczak stated that he hopes there are some controls on the spending.
Councilor Walczak stated that some of the line items are hard to follow. For example on page 60
you have Coaches, three hundred and ninety two thousand dollars’ worth of money. He asked how
many Coaches for what sports. He stated that it makes no sense to have line items with no backup
on it.
Sharon Riley stated the budget is set up by location for the yearend report for the school.
John Miarecki stated that we have a budget book and it will break them down by names.
Councilor Vieau suggested giving the City Council a copy of the School’s budget book.
Councilor Walczak asked how much you market your facilities for revenue generation regarding the
high school fields and auditoriums.
John Miarecki stated that Maintenance keeps track of all the rentals. It’s not necessarily a money
making thing, it’s covering our overtime with custodians.
John Mruk stated that he brought up four recommendations for cuts on the administration building
and they were defeated. He stated that the reason why was the members that voted against it felt
that we didn’t have enough information on those positions; they were so old and we really didn’t
have a job description.
Councilor Zygarowski stated what the Maintenance of Effort means.
Councilor Tillotson stated it is what the State requires us to come up with. He stated that in the last
two or three years we have come up above the Maintenance of Effort.
Councilor Zygarowski stated that we want to keep our schools the best way we can. He stated that
it’s not that our school isn’t being run properly; people think we have the greatest school system
such as athletics. He stated that the biggest complaint we have is that there are too many
consultants and too many Vice Principals. He stated that I don’t know if they are all necessary. He
doesn’t want to see jobs eliminated but on the same token we have to keep our schools running and
operating. He stated that the recommendations are great and we can’t do them all but certainly
work on some of them.
Jim Tanhouser stated that after reviewing the recommendations he thinks they should be looked
into with more detail. He stated they are excellent ideas to save our city money. He stated he will
elaborate on this in the next month’s school meeting. He stated the school department budget has
already suffered cuts. He stated the purchases that were made by our city in 2018; one point two
eight million for a new areal platform fire truck, nearly five hundred thousand for a new pumper
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truck for the Fire Department, over five hundred and thirty thousand to replace Chicopee Highs turf
field and a seven figure investment in the Uniroyal cleanup project. He stressed that these are
essential projects for our city. He stated he respectfully asks Mayor Kos to look into allocating more
funds for our school department to alleviate many of the issues facing our schools.
Councilor Laflamme motion to place on file – Councilor Vieau 2nd the motion - motion passed
Unanimous vote favorable
Councilor Tillotson motion to take Item #2 out of order – Councilor Vieau 2nd the motion – motion
passed.
ITEM #2
BE IT ORDERED that the Finance Committee meet to discuss fiscal year 2018 Capital Planning
Committee update
Councilor Laflamme stated that the truck will be used for much more than just forestry. We had
talked about using it for when the dump closes and to move other things throughout the City of
Chicopee. He stated tonight I will be in favor of this. He stated the truck driven by Bob Liswell, he
knows the truck itself is bad but the box on the truck is still good. He asked if the box could be
removed and used by someone in any department.
Alan Ryczek answered yes. We can use it on an old trailer or we could put it on the ground in one of
the City of Chicopee parks and use it as an outside storage.
Councilor Laflamme asked why they are going with this particular car.
Alan Ryczek stated the explorer is the same vehicle as the Police and Fire chiefs. It has the same
parts as all the police cruisers use. We have a lot of those parts readily available for us in stock.
Councilor Tillotson stated that the Chief Executive Officer of the City of Chicopee should be entitled
to a vehicle equal to the Fire and Police chief.
Bob Liswell stated that we were given a budget of five thousand dollars and we basically stretched
that five thousand dollars with that utility body that we got in the city. We turned that truck into a
utility style body to prove the concept that; I would need to do service, run jobs, installations so on
and so forth.
Councilor Laflamme stated that it’s seems that you do ninety percent of the work for the city side.
How much do you do for the Chicopee Electric Light.
Bob Liswell stated that he doesn’t have a position with the Chicopee Electric Light they just work
together with the Technology Project Manager position. It’s been working out very well.
Councilor Labrie stated that we’re going to have a lot of surplus older vehicles. Is that part of the
trading prices that we were getting.
Alan Ryczek answered no it’s not included. He stated that we didn’t have those available at the time
so we price them out as though we weren’t trading in. He stated the City of Chicopee is getting five
thousand dollars give or take for two of the cruisers that we’re trading in. The other amount we’re
getting is approximately thirty five hundred per car. Every two years they put the junk cars out to
bid.
Councilor Walczak spoke regarding the parks courts repaving priorities. He stated that Szot Park
tennis court is considered number one priority because the high school plays their tennis matches
there.
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Councilor Laflamme stated if we don’t repair that field it will not be able to be used. This creates
liability for the city. He stated the City Council has a good relationship with the Mayor. He’s done his
homework and whatever he brings forward we will look at and review it. He stated that we’re
looking at a bonded deal for the future. It should be done by the summer time for the schools to be
able to use. He stated that he is getting complaints that the field is not up to code to be used for
football.
Councilor Tillotson stated that we have had artificial turf for fourteen years. If we were to re-do it,
the average cost with the money we appropriated for the artificial turf would equal about thirty
eight thousand dollars a year. He stated if we went back to grass with the labor, the water and the
fertilizer, it would cost more than thirty eight thousand dollars a year.
Councilor Laflamme motion to place on file – Councilor Vieau 2nd the motion - motion passed
Unanimous vote favorable
ITEM #3
Councilor Labrie motion to approve the minutes of June 7, 2017 - Councilor Vieau 2nd the motion –
motion passed.
Meeting adjourned at 8:00 PM
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