Planning Commission
Regular MeetingCleveland, TN · June 18, 2024
Minutes
Minutes
CLEVELAND MUNICIPAL PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 18, 2024
CLEVELAND MUNICIPAL BUILDING 190 CHURCH STREET NE
The regular meeting of the Cleveland Municipal Planning Commission was
called to order by Tricia Pennington, Chairman, at 6:00 P.M.
Commissioners present included: Tricia Pennington, Clark Taylor, Blake
Allison, Bill Estes, Jamie Creekmore, Tiffiani Sherlin, and Ben Berry
Commissioners absent included: Alma Dotson and Maryl Elliot
Staff present included: Robert Varnell, Planning Director, Joel Prince,
Planner II/Codes Supervisor, and Laura Duncan, MPO Billing Coordinator.
Legal Counsel present included: John Kimball, Attorney for the City of
Cleveland.
Others present included: Aruns Malrea of Jack’s Family Restaurant, Caleb
Glafenhein of Greenbrier Real Estate Advisors, LLC, Brandon McDonald,
of Robin Hood Drive, Tony Richmond, of RSC, and Christian Medders of
Medders Surveying.
The minutes of the May 21, 2024, regular meeting were
presented for approval.
Bill Estes made a motion to approve the May 21, 2024, minutes
and Jamie Creekmore seconded the motion. A Vote of 7-0
passed the motion. Yes-7 No-0 Recused-0 Absent-2
In Public Hearings,
Tricia Pennington: All right, public hearings. We are opening a public
hearing for anyone who would like to speak to anything that's not on the
agenda. Is there anyone here who would like to speak?
There's not any.
Close the public hearing and move to the consent agenda.
In the Consent Agenda,
a request by JDC Holdings for approval of a preliminary plat for
property located at 13th Street (also described as Tax Map 058I
Group D Parcel 022.00) and located within the R-2 Low Density
Single and Multi-Family Zoning District.
b request by Riverstone Construction for approval of a final plat
for property located at Arthur Lane (also described as Tax Map
034F Group J Parcel 002.00 and 003.00 and located within the
PUD 35 Zoning District.
c Request by Ronald Barker for approval of a final plat for
property located at Campbell Bridge Road (also described as
Tax Map 033J Group B Parcels 014.00 and 015.00) and located
within the R-2 Low Density Single and Multi-Family Zoning
District.
Robert Varnell: The first item is a preliminary plat. JDC Holdings on
13th St. Preliminary Plat R2 zoning. This is a total of 3.6 acres. It's a
townhome-style development. This is the preliminary plat they've
submitted. I believe there are a few comments, and labeling issues
that stand out. That's about it. And those may have even been
addressed by today.
On the second item.
Bill Estes: Is this 13th St. what Southeast?
Robert Varnell: Southeast OK. Yes, Sir.
The second item is Chuck Williams on Arthur Lane as part of PUD
35. These are townhomes that are being further subdivided, which as
of tomorrow, hopefully, you won't see these again. There's a labeling
issue and site work looks like stabilization and the rear slope.
The next item is Ron Barker, Campbell Bridge Road. He's got three
lots with multifamily development. I don't believe that these lots will
be further subdivided with the GIS showing that they could be, but at
this point, our understanding is it's a complex development. We've
got a premier client. There were no outstanding comments left as of
today.
That’s it for the consent agenda if there are any questions on any of
them?
Bill Estes: 13th St. It didn't come out well can you show me where on
13th Southeast?
Robert Varnell: Let's see, this is it, then it goes back into development
back here. This was a piece that was originally cut in half for what's
being built on North Ocoee. Now, if you're familiar with those homes
there, they were going to do that here, but they switched. This was
the remainder. There was a piece here that was originally part of this
development that was included, and I believe going this way you get
out towards
Ben Berry: It's like 11th St?
Robert Varnell: It would be really difficult for me to try to pull the map
up on the screen right now or I would do it.
Bill Estes: 13th and yeah, I know. I'm there.
I know the field, right, its field, right and yes, and the grade is OK. Do
I know grade is OK?
Robert Varnell: Yeah, it's. Most of these will be. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
he's got some work, he's got to do.
Bill Estes: OK.
Robert Varnell: This is the preliminary plan. So, this starts that
process.
The way it's planned right now, most of these are townhomes coming
off that main drive. There are two apartment buildings back in that
back corner where it drops down.
Blake Allison: Those were two.
Bill Estes: I got it. That's it. I see it now. Thanks.
Ben Berry: So, I've got. Some involvement in item A, but I'll make a
motion to approve pending staff comments.
Ben Berry made a motion to approve the Consent Agenda
pending staff comments, seconded by Blake Allison. The
motion passed 7-0. Yes – 7 No -0, Absent – 2 Recused - 0
Old Business
There was no Old Business
In New Business,
a. request by Jack’s Family Restaurants for approval of site plans
and architectural renderings based on the requirements in PUD
8 Zoning Ordinance and includes a portion of Tax Map 050A
Group P Parcel 002.03.
Robert Varnell: For those who may not be familiar, PUD 8 is obviously an
older PUD. Now that we're up to 53, I think. And so, PUD 8 is the southern
part of Spring Creek, where the apartment complex is currently the only
part of that that's been. So those out parcels in the front, that's kind of one
section of that is where we're talking about. As a part of that part, as well as
any commercial part, the Planning Commission gets approval on the
architectural renderings and the site plan that includes landscaping. So, I
know we do have some representatives here from Jack’s as well. If you've
got questions that you may want to ask them. The site plan itself is still
going through staff review, but this is pretty close to where it is. As you can
see, the access point, which is an easement at this time will be, I believe,
three-point access. It's right out, but you can get right in and left in and then
you can follow this road around to the traffic light that way. They do need
the approval of the site plan with the idea that there are two parking spaces
less than required, that is due to the turning radius and some discussions
with our traffic engineer and it's our fault in the sense that parking reduction
occurs, but it still has adequate parking for them, which I believe it has
adequate for us as well. Architecturally, they've got a fairly consistent
model, but they use good architectural details of stone and siding mix. I
don't know if anybody's familiar with them. This will be their first one in
Cleveland. There's one in Collegedale, and there are a few others, and
they typically look pretty good from an architectural standpoint. There's the
front and the rear of the structure. The landscaping plan, Erica was out
today, so she didn't get a chance to look at it, but I believe we were pretty
close on getting that to a staff level of approval as well. Do you all have any
specific questions on this site for staff or the applicant?
Bill Estes: Was the right out, right in part of the original PUD?
Robert Varnell: The curb cut was there and has been there since I was a
kid. The original plat included an easement to that, but it was full access at
that.
Bill Estes: What is directly across from that cut?
Robert Varnell: The road that goes between Jenkins and Lasseter’s.
TDOT has stated that they are looking at doing a similar idea to what
they're doing up closer to the new Jimmy John's with the J turns and things
like that. A little bit of access control. As things continue to develop, I don't
know if they're doing that, but they have mentioned it. Correct me if I'm
wrong.
Ben Berry: Yeah. So, I've got some involvement with the seller, not Jack’s
directly, but the seller is doing the access point. There are left turn lanes
already on 25th St. TDOT was a little bit hands off, they said the City took a
stand that left turns out were kind of dangerous, right? The median is not
wide enough for you to make that 2-point turn.
Robert Varnell: Can't stop in the median.
Ben Berry: And so, there's already a left turn lane. So, there's a safe
movement to get left and safe to get right out right in. But then if you're
coming out, you know, just that right out movement is really what they
wanted to limit it to.
Robert Varnell: We've got the luxury of a traffic signal one block up.
Ben Berry: And yeah, you want all left turns to use the traffic signal. You
have the expense of a traffic signal; you might as well use that for safety.
Go to the traffic signal and their site plan. They rearranged it to put their
driveway closer to the traffic signal to try and encourage customers to just
go that way as opposed to putting it on the other side of the site where we
would use that driveway, more so. That was kind of city driven. We don't
need left turns out of that driveway when you have access to a traffic
signal.
Robert Varnell: Then you know the applicants have done a good job in my
opinion and through discussions early on, it was like once we get here and
get situated, people are going to know where we are and how to get to us.
It's that first initial step that they were a little bit worried about, but they did
a good job.
Bill Estes: Paul Huff across from Publix, where you've got right in right out,
is that working?
Robert Varnell: What do you mean? Is it working? Do you still see people
turning left in? Is that what you're saying?
Bill Estes: Not just that…
Ben Berry: This one is more like the one at Dairy Queen.
Robert Varnell: You can do just right in, right out, but this one. If it was a
pull-up, you can imagine, you know, envision, you could still make that left
in which we couldn't do there, but people still do it. I think it does work
overall.
Bill Estes: And this isn't about Jack’s. This is more about the code.
The PUD itself. And now the crossroad has been placed between
Lasseter’s and Jenkins so you’re not going to have the road come across
from the north?
Robert Varnell: It would be a difficult task.
Bill Estes: I am only voicing one person’s opinion as we go forward with
other PUDs and other Paul Huffs and other APD 40s.
Clarke Taylor: We need an access ordinance in place. Clear all of that up.
Where else does this where we should be?
Robert Varnell: There are other components where we can do this without
just applied that we're talking about as well that might end up in front of you
guys at some point anyway.
Tricia Pennington: Any other discussion?
Blake Allison made a motion to approve the request by Jack’s
Family Restaurants for approval of site plans and architectural
renderings based on the requirements in PUD 8 Zoning
Ordinance and includes a portion of Tax Map 050A Group P
Parcel 002.03, seconded by Clarke Taylor. The motion passed 7-
0. Yes – 7 No – 0 Absent – 2 (Ben Berry stated for the record he
was involved with the seller)
b. request by John Porte for consideration of an ordinance to zone
about .49 acres, more or less, of property located at Old Tasso
Rd from R-2 and IL Zoning District to CG General Commercial
Zoning District and includes a Tax Map 050 Parcel 001.09.
Robert Varnell: The applicant in this case is requesting a zoning change to
build a single-tenant commercial structure. GC was probably the best fit
because there is some GC in the area, not directly next to it, but it's the
closest as well as the lot size limits itself to general commercial zoning. I
don't consider Tasso a highway and would not recommend a highway
commercial zoning, but the GC seems to fit. Based on lot size as well as
the desired use, you know this is a situation. Much like 20th St. Just to the
South, where a blanket zoning was given, and then nobody cared for a long
time about what was actually going on, what the use was, it was just, it was
zoned industry. On this individual has a commercial business they'd like to
run, me being the stickler that I am said well, then you've got to be zoned
correctly, so they've requested the GC zoning designation. Of course, I'll
recommend approval of it. I do support that. I think it's that it lends itself to
a mix of use.
Clarke Taylor made a motion to approve the request by John Porte
for consideration of an ordinance to zone about .49 acres, more or
less of property located at Old Tasso Rd from R-2 and IL Zoning
District to CG General Commercial Zoning District and includes a
Tax Map 050 Parcel 001.09, seconded by Jamie Creekmore. The
motion passed 7-0. Yes – 7 No – 0 Absent - 2
c. request by Brandon McDonald for consideration of an ordinance
to zone about 2.8 acres, more or less, of property located Robin
Hood Dr. NW from RA/R3/IGC Zoning District to PUD 14 and
includes Tax Map 034H Group M Parcel 008.00.
Robert Varnell: This is a parcel that is currently split-zoned R3 and RA.
It was at one time all part of 1115 Robin Hood Drive has since been
subdivided in discussions with the applicant. You know he's got part of
it. That's R3. His initial thought was I'd like the entire parcel to go R3.
PUD 14 includes these parcels, these parcels, and some in the middle.
So, I shared PUD 14 with the applicant and said this might be a path
that would give you a little bit more open-ended options for, you know if
your intention is to sell the property down the road, it gives the city
stronger standards on landscaping, lighting and architectural renderings.
So, it was a win-win for both in my opinion, and I do believe the
applicants here and there may be some other folks who may want to
speak to this as well. I want you to pay attention for a moment. There's a
flag stem that goes out to Robin Hood Drive. Through discussions with
the applicant, I believe he's agreeable that that flag stem will actually be
absorbed by 1115 and there will be no access from the future
development to Robin Hood Drive. That would be a concern if it is to
remain because we don't want any commercial traffic going out that
way.
Bill Estes: Does that need to be part of our motion here?
Robert Varnell: I would recommend it. I've had several discussions with
some neighbors today who could not make it. It was difficult for them to
make it, but they wanted to express to you all that that is their wish, that
this traffic does not come out on Robin Hood. That said, I think the
applicant is amicable to do that, staff is going to work hard to make that
happen.
Clarke Taylor: Where's it going out again?
Robert Varnell: So, here's Robin Hood, and we can look at it on the
bigger there's a flag stem here. The second part I'm going to get to this
is Callen Lane, where it touches right there and that's Ellis Circle, so in
discussions with the applicant as well, the city has requested a 50 foot
right away be a part of being included in this fund that will run across the
Southern property line. To connect Ellis to Callen Lane, where we now
have more interconnectivity off of Paul Huff. Where people don't
necessarily have to get back out on pull up, it's a better connection that
will tie itself to us. Improving that section of Ellis Circle once in the
future. That connection this applicant gets in the PUD, we get the right of
way, they get new frontage. The donation of the right of way through the
PUD, the city builds the road. That's how that kind of works out. I know
the applicant is here. If you've got questions for him or any questions for
me, I'm happy to answer them and there may be some other folks who
wish to speak to this zoning request.
Tricia Pennington: Do we have any more questions from the
Commission at this point? Is there anyone who would like to speak to
this? OK.
Bill Estes: With that, I have questions for staff to the homes at Robin Hood.
Tell me about the buffering. I don't see
Robert Varnell: So yeah, the buffering in PUD 14 lanes on the fence plus
the buffer and not the option.
Bill Estes: All right, defensive, go down to the east of there, there is no
fence.
Robert Varnell: And you know that part is a little bit different. The language
in that PUD is different than this language, but not by much, but I will place
some level of blame on a bunch of different factors with the one. Below.
Well, it's.
Bill Estes: Not about that one. I'm just thinking about Robin Hood at the
Council level has been a hot button issue. Yes, and you don't. We don't
want to send this up without having thought through that and having that
sorted. And not we'll try to fix it down the road. We need to sort that out,
right?
Robert Varnell: I fully agree. Yeah, yeah.
Blake Allison: Now as far as traffic
Bill Estes: Not traffic. It's the buffer to Robin Hood because they've been
mistreated by the PUD which is part of this and so
Clarke Taylor: One more reason to release PUDs.
Bill Estes: Well, now I'm a fan of PUDs they just need to be done right from
the beginning.
Ben Berry: PUD this I mean it shows all put this was being added to the
PUD on Callen Lane or it's being added to the other one.
Robert Varnell: PUD 14
Ben Berry: So, it’s being added to that.
Robert Varnell: One thing I've been talking about with GIS is I'd like to
distinguish between these things on the map, but it’s going to be added to
the one. So, this property here is currently listed for sale, and it's that's
PUD 14. This is PUD 14, that is, and that's.
Ben Berry: So, I think where it would and I've heard these discussions, City
Council. I think where the needs end up is that a fence plus the normal
buffer would be put in at the time the lot is cleared. That's been the hang up
is that…
Bill Estes: I'm not being clear, sorry. OK. I want the homes on Robin Hood
to have as much break up as well as a fence.
And the discussion up here on City Council certainly was before land
disturbance and before building, you know, if that was that was that's
where it got to it once. Yeah. But I also think Robin Hood should be treated
fairly, you know.
We are putting something right next door. And so, it deserves. Whatever I
would think Commercial Highway next or one whatever that regular buffer
is. OK, it's a PUD. There's you don't have to do the extent, but it needs to
be done well to protect those three homes.
Ben Berry: So, the normal buffer is evergreens 10 ft on the center and then
shade trees 35 feet on the center.
Bill Estes: Because buffers are depending on the CH to R1
Ben Berry: And then you can add the fence to it, which is the medium, right
because trees take forever to grow. That’s a healthy buffer that the only
step up from that is shrubs, but once you have the fence you can’t see the
shrubs.
I'll motion to approve with conditions that the flag stem was excluded from
the zoning and absorbed into one of the properties on Robin Hood Drive.
That. Buffer be provided standard buffer and our zoning code, plus an 8-
foot fence installed at time of land disturbance.
Ben Berry made a motion to approve the request by Brandon
McDonald for consideration of an ordinance to zone about 2.8
acres, more or less, of property located at Robin Hood Dr. NW
from RA/R3/IGC Zoning District to PUD 14 and includes Tax Map
034H Group M Parcel 008.00, pending the flag is absorbed into
1115 Robinhood Lane and they include the buffer + an 8ft fence,
seconded by Blake Allison. The motion passed 7-0. Yes – 7 No
– 0 Absent – 2
d. request by Joel Simpkins for consideration of an ordinance to
zone about 1.02 acres, more or less, of property located on
North Ocoee Street from CH Highway Commercial to MU Mixed
Use and includes Tax Map 050A Group O Parcel 002.10.
Robert Varnell: This is kind of across from the hospital in that way. This
parcel is in this area of town. As you may have read in my report, in my
opinion, lends itself to an urban feeling. We've got very urban use
already in place. A large hospital with a large employment base, and
restaurants next door they went two floors up. It's retail and office, but
it's still a general idea. Just applicants looking. 'm going to go back. So,
they're proposing to have a retail on the 1st floor with apartment use
above it. In our ordinance, there's not many mechanisms outside of the
cloud where I can create mixed. Mixed-use also has a lot of other
options in it, which is kind of a drawback of the zone. That's where I
have had some conversations as well. You know this is an application
for zoning, but if they don't do that, we've opened ourselves up to
something else now.
Clarke Taylor: We’ll see mixed-use, there’s several. You can do without
throwing for residential.
Robert Varnell: Apartments above CH? That’s not
Ben Berry: What are the negatives from PCH to mixed-use like?
Is there industry?
Robert Varnell: It depends. As you know it. Suits mixed-use allows R1
R2 R3 R5 uses. R5 is high-rise for if you don't know, that's anything
above 3/4. It allows uses by right in CG Pi and neighborhood
commercial. That's not concerning. The conditional uses are. Highway
commercial uses by right and light industrial. So, they would have.
There's a step. There is a guard for that light industrial but would go to
the DCA if they applied. And that could be approved. Now, one of the
other things I'm looking at among the 450 is how to make this mixed-use
work better for us, because right now it's too broad. Or, you know, divide
it into two different types of mixed-use whatever it is. I don't know yet,
but I support the request because it gets the style of development where
you have, in a sense what is that 5007? 150 square foot first-floor retail
with 24 apartments on three floors above. So that's eight per floor.
That's not overdoing it. That's not extreme, and it's the kind of
development that an urban center needs to see. We need to focus on,
and we need to have better tools to allow it to happen. Right now, this is
one of the only tools I've got.
Bill Estes: So, I like this at the bottom right.
What it's lacking is beyond this, but what it's lacking is a David Lewis
Lane down to CVS, there's no sidewalk. The other side of the street has
a sidewalk, but the walkability is not there for this and these people.
Robert Varnell: Fortunately, the state of Tennessee is spending close to
$20 million to redo the intersection down at CVS, and it doesn't look like
sidewalks, but it gets us something we can connect to.
Bill Estes: But again, I just as a Planning Commission Member, I got to
throw my opinions out to you and staff as you guys go forward. It needs
sidewalks because they stop at David Lewis Lane and we're going to
make this walkability in urban and downtown next.
Robert Varnell: With the sidewalk ordinance, it would require this
development to have it. The one we passed last year.
Bill Estes: Yeah. Even the PUDs are this mixed-use OK.
Robert Varnell: That's correct.
Bill Estes: Do we have right of way?
Robert Varnell: Yeah, I don't know exactly what the width is, but It's got
to be at least 80 feet. You know, I think so, especially with the sidewalk
having been constructed with the site.
Bill Estes: Will be interesting to see how the state designs the
intersection right first.
Robert Varnell: I've seen where we're headed. It's looking good.
Bill Estes: And David Lewis Lane is not that far up or old 23rd Street is
not that far up.
Robert Varnell: It's not. A fairly quick gap filler could be done.
But this kind of development is what I would like to see more of in urban
areas. They are core, whether it's downtown, what I consider this to be
kind of midtown in a sense kind of going up. There are places where it
lends itself to this type of development.
Clarke Taylor: I can't think of a lot of town that doesn't get any better
than that lot right there.
Robert Varnell: The applicant is here. If you've got questions for him and
some of his folks.
Blake Allison made a motion to approve the request by Joel
Simpkins for consideration of an ordinance to zone about 1.02
acres, more or less, of property located on North Ocoee Street
from CH Highway Commercial to MU Mixed Used and includes
Tax Map 050A Group O Parcel 002.10, seconded by Clarke
Taylor. The motion passed 7-0. Yes – 7 No – 0 Absent – 2
e. request by the City of Cleveland for the approval of a resolution
amending the City of Cleveland Subdivision Regulations Section
7 and Section 8.4 to allow plat approval at the staff level based
on specific criteria approved by the City Council of Cleveland,
Tennessee.
Robert Varnell: I'm not going to get like rail on about this thing forever. I
think we've talked about it for 300 months in a row, but I will say the
process was cumbersome. I appreciate everybody's involvement who was
involved in the discussions about it. It started here, went to council, came
back here, went to council again, this is it. You guys make a decision today.
It's official. Today we're done. This becomes the thing. I got a call from
several Realtors over the past week. They're very excited about the
possibility of what we're doing here. I feel like staff and the Planning
Commission and the City Council all kind of came together to agree. Call
on certain criteria that we should follow that whether it's me or someone
down the road to help kind of contain this a little bit. The most important
being if I want to bring it here, I'm going to. If I feel like I need to, and the
applicant has that same right. That's important. So, any questions on this?
Ben Berry made a motion to approve the request by the City of
Cleveland for the approval of a resolution amending the City of
Cleveland Subdivision Regulations Section 7 and Section 8.4 to
allow plat approval at the staff level based on specific criteria
approved by the City Council of Cleveland, Tennessee,
seconded by Blake Allison. The motion passed 7-0. Yes – 7 No
– 0 Absent – 2
f. request by the City of Cleveland to amend the Cleveland, TN
Zoning ordinance section 2.10.2 to include vehicle sales as a
conditional use.
Robert Varnell: Yes, this is one. We have a lot of GC zoned property
that has vehicle sales that is their current use. If they sell it. Or closes
for six months or whatever it may be there. It becomes a situation
where I can't write them a letter to open a new business. Because
there's no option for them to do that in the zoning. It's auto sales. I
think there's going to be situations where you look at a piece of
property and say it doesn't lend itself to that. But there are situations
where it does, and I want to give people that ability. Putting it as a
conditional use. At least put some level of constraint on where it
goes. We have people that do, you know, I mean there's open
business and our objective needs to be to make sure we can work
with our business owners and some of these cases like this. This will
be followed by a few other zones that you guys may be familiar with
where this will be completely removed. CBD would be one.
Ben Berry: I think it is removed in CBD.
Robert Varnell: There's some kind of auto-oriented stuff in there.
Ben Berry made a motion to approve the request by the City of
Cleveland to amend the Cleveland, TN Zoning Ordinance section
2.10.2 to include vehicle sales as a conditional use, seconded by
Bill Estes. The motion passed 7-0. Yes – 7 No – 0 Absent – 2
Chairman’s Report:
No Report
Director’s Report:
No Report
Adjourn 6:38 P.M.
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