Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · September 13, 2010
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER
13, 2010 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CITY HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Edward Carboni
Vice-Chairman Clarence Badgley
Chairman Joseph Moloughney
Ms. Sharon Gariepy
Mr. Jake Dumesnil
Mr. Mark DeFruscio
ALSO PRESENT: Ms. Melissa Ashline-Heil, City Planner
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 9, 2010 MEETING
Chairman Moloughney called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Chairman asked the planner to take
attendance call. Chairman asked the Board to decide whether to approve the minutes from the
August 9th, 2010 meeting. Member Dumesnil made a motion to approve the minutes of the
August 9th meeting. Member Carboni seconded the motion. Roll of call was taken and the motion
passed.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Jake Dumesnil X
Sharon Gariepy ABSENT
Mark DeFruscio ABSTAIN
CONSIDERATION OF A MINOR SUBDIVISION AT 147 CONGRESS STREET
Property owner Gary Ethier requested approval of a minor subdivision at 147 Congress Street so
the two separate buildings would have independent lots. Chairman Moloughney pointed out that
the subdivision created lots smaller than what the code permits; however, the size of the lots would
be grandfathered as legal nonconforming.
As a result, Member DeFruscio moved to approve the subdivision. Member Carboni seconded the
motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Sharon Gariepy X
Jake Dumesnil X
Mark DeFruscio X
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN REVIEW AT BURGER KING ON SARATOGA
STREET
Jim Meinecke represented Carroll’s Corp’s request for site plan review. The existing building
suffered minor fire damage. However, Carroll’s Corp decided to demolish the existing structure
and rebuild on a smaller footprint. Burger King (BK) could then expand the existing drive-thru
path to create a passing lane and add a second window to decrease queuing up of cars.
Mr. Meinecke also explained that the 600 sq ft smaller building would be constructed to 2020
standards. Carroll’s Corp. purchased the building from another fast food company and found that
the existing structure and drive-thru window did not meet Burger King’s needs. This alteration
will create the best configuration on a less than perfect lot.
The City of Cohoes has been negotiating with BK concerning the left hand turn from New
Courtland Street into the BK parking lot and vice versa - the left hand turn out of the BK parking
lot onto New Courtland Street. Using DOT funding the City would like to install medians on New
Courtland to improve safety by preventing cars from crossing traffic in that location. Doing so
will improve the City’s chances of obtaining approval for establishing a Quiet Zone through the
Federal Railroad Administration.
As a concession, the City agreed to permit BK to install a standalone sign on City property at the
corner of Ontario Street and Shanahan’s Way. BK proposes a 14’ high pole with a 16 sq ft BK
sign. Although Board members found the sign seemed to clutter the streetscape, the sign would
need Zoning Board approval as well.
Member DeFruscio expressed concerns about the proposed 4’ grade change on Shanahan’s Way.
He noted that the underground facilities lie 4’ underground according to the plans. In addition he
remarked that the Saratoga Street entrance has a steep drop that hits the undercarriage of entering
and exiting vehicles.
Mr. Meinecke responded that the City and Carroll’s Corp engineers will review the plans. BK
intends to create a gentler grade change at the Saratoga Street entrance. So far neither has
perceived a problem with the grade change on Shanahan’s Way. Chairman Moloughney added
that the contractual lease agreement between the City of Cohoes and Carroll’s Corp will handle the
issue of liability for any damage to City utility lines.
Member Gariepy asked if Shanahan’s Way would remain a City street open to through traffic,
which Chairman Moloughney confirmed. Member DeFruscio asked about the existing retaining
wall and sign on the property. Mr. Meinecke confirmed these items would remain the same.
Board members pointed out that the entrance and exit on New Courtland Street could confuse
drivers. Chairman Moloughney recommended appropriate signage to clarify flow of traffic at the
Shanahan’s Way outlet onto New Courtland Street. Then BK should submit the plans reflecting
striping and signage to the Traffic Commission for approval.
Member DeFruscio questioned snow storage on the property. Mr. Meinecke replied that Carroll’s
Corp arranges for removal once the snow becomes overwhelming. In the interim, Chairman
Moloughney added, snow storage on the site has always been beneath the existing stand alone
sign.
Member Carboni asked what material BK would use for the new structure. Mr. Meinecke
indicated that BK would construct a new masonry building. The EIFS on the existing structure – a
synthetic stucco – becomes easily worn and requires higher maintenance than masonry.
Member Dumesnil asked about the landscaping between Shanahan’s Way and the drive-thru
windows. Mr. Meinecke anticipates cleaning up the area, removing all mulch since a cigarette
dropped in the mulch started the fire, and laying down decorative stone in its stead. Member
Gariepy requested more green space to spruce up the area.
Vice Chairman Badgley asked if BK anticipated lighting for the new standalone sign. Mr.
Meinecke explained that the contractors would internally light the sign. Member DeFruscio asked
about the hours when it would remain lit. Mr. Meinecke anticipates that two controls would affect
the hours: one would provide a solar onset at dusk for the light and the other would turn off the
light an hour after staff members close the restaurant.
Chairman Moloughney suggested two conditions to any approvals: 1) install “Do Not Enter” signs
at the north end of Shanahan’s Way; and 2) realign or redisign the median between BK and
Shanahan Way to direct cars into the BK bypass lane and not to enter Shanahan Way, to avoid
two-way traffic on Shanahan Way.
Member Gariepy moved to approve the conditioned proposal. The proposal also needs a variance
and formal Traffic Commission approval. Vice Chairman Badgley seconded the motion which
passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Sharon Gariepy X
Jake Dumesnil X
Mark DeFruscio X
Vice Chairman Badgley made a motion to adjourn at 7:40pm. Member Carboni seconded the
motion. Roll of call was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
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